What would YOU do with K♣ T♥ on the turn? Your Stack (BTN): 6,145,433 Their Stack (BB): 12,406,567 Pot: 2,248,000 Board: Q♣ 8♥ 3♦ J♣ BB Checks A) Check B) Bet 600,000 (small) C) Bet 1,400,000 (medium) D) Bet 2,200,000 (large)
I would've folded the flop. But if I got here, I'm firing all barrels bc I need this pot, potting here and planning on jamming any river except maybe a King which should have enough equity to not need to be turned into a bluff when checked to me.
I like betting so as to remain uncapped. You can still have AA, KK, QQ or JJ here. Those hands would just call the check raise to keep V's bluffs in. $1.4 milly sets up a nice river shove.
It's hard to make an objective read when you can see the cards (please turn Postle mode off so we can put ourselves in their shoes!). But honestly this flop checkraise into turn check looks a lot like Jx to me (JT or J9, maybe KJ too). If he actually had 2 pair or a set, or if he turned the nuts with 9T, or if he still has nothing, why is he slowing down on the turn? So in Hightroler's shoes I would bet medium on the turn and jam river to get him off a jack. Nice thing about having KT is that you block the nuts (9T) which could trap turn, and also block the backdoor flush if it completes on the river, very good bluffing hand.
If you're unwilling to bluff off your stack in a situation like this, then you're going to quickly get downloaded by your opposition. Poker is inherently a high variance game. Yeah, sucks if you bluff off your stack but you have to take some shots. Also since Hightroler has to know his opponent is more skilled, his strategy needs to really embrace variance. The more pots he plays, the greater the likelihood that the game outcome will converge on Addamo's on-paper edge, and increases the probability of Hightroler losing. The better your opponent, the fewer pots you want to play, but for more chips.
Comebacks from deep down happen all the time HU. Hightroler chose to keep that in mind. His pot-sized bet was quite sufficient for polarization. He didn't need to punt all off. And precisely because of that decision, he still had life...which then led to a win. I'm inclined to compliment him on his strategy.
Great commentary, Jonathan! I also absolutely love the music you play when you pause the play to ask what we would do in the situation. Nicely done all around and helpful as usual!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I like a medium sized bet on the turn with our KT. We can certainly have more hands like JJ and QJ in our range, plus our particular hand blocks the nuts so we should be looking to implement geometric sizing. Plus, for what it's worth, with the Kc we can bluff club rivers.
In heads up situations I think solver usually prefers slightly smaller sizes for block bets on the river. Around 15-25%. I think a Jack with decent kicker is strong enough for a 33% bet but it might not be a good overall strategy
It's a call for Addamo on the end. Partly tactical. The odds with that J are decent against the opponents range, but more importantly, calling ends in two scenarios. Lose and wind up even stacked, or win and wind up with a dominant lead nearly guaranteed to win. Honestly, losing the hand is not all that much worse than folding. This kind of information is important to take into consideration heads up on tough calls. If the scenario was flipped and HighTroller was the deep stack and betting half of YOUR stack to call, it would the opposite - fold to avoid being dominated moving forward.
I think I would bet (2/3 pot) turn and bet also any river. But problem is if opponent raise turn we have to fold. Second option. Check and bet (or raise bluf) river.
I think it can go either way I’m sure the solver likes mixing it a bit. Personally I really love just checking here and then just giving up one the river when we miss since it was check raised on the flop so personally I would check probably like 75% of the time maybe more
Having the Kc is pretty nice. Blocks flush draws that would continue. And having a ten is of course amazing, blocking straights and JT, QT. So I would like to bet with this exact hand. We have decent equity with our oesd though so it would suck if we face a raise. We should be quite polarizing on this turn card anyway especially after the opponent check raised the flop. So I think it's either checking or betting large
When you block the draws and get called that means your opponent has a maid hand. In this scenario you want to bet with ak, no clubs. So your opponent will call with alot of draws and you can fold them on bricks rivers. If you block draws then on the river your opppnent is more likely to have a maid hand and call you down/
Having kc is not good to have. You want your opponent to have the draws so holding kc leans more towards you opponent having a pair/value rather than draws
I agree on the call for Addamo, a smaller player putting their tournament life all in would certainly have been much more convincing. Putting in another 2.3 to win a pot of 8.3 is much too juicy of a price from Hightroler
I was thinking before you even said the different choices 1.3 million for the turn bet.... seems like a good number puts them in much more difficult of a place than a small bet.... and if you get there you must be close to being able to shove the river
Should have bet half pot when he picked up equity (OESD) on the turn, and then blasted a 3/4 pot bet on river. He credibly reps KQ+ with that line and Addamo cannot call river bet profitably.
I would probably check back or bet tiny like 600k. Addamos check raising range contains alot of back door flush draws that could give up on turn when they dont gain equity among other bluffs as well. Most of those bluffs we are ahead of with King high so a checkback is probably what I do but by betting small you can get Addamo to probably fold out anything worse then Ace high on turn, which again ur ahead of but by barrelling river too he also folds anything worse then an 8 on river and potenially an 8 with a club or something around that strength.
I would bet small to give myself a chance to take it down right there and I have a good equity going to the river if called and I can fold if shoved on
your question at 5:46 id shove it in his face and make him have a tough decision,he calls he wins he folds your laughing,maybe thats why im not great at this game lol
I think i like the call from addamo with no clubs in hand, having the 9 is probably good too for him, since he blocks some value. But when hightroller bets, gets check-raised and then calls the raise on the flop, i think his range is mostly compressed to Qx type hands, and some draws. And for him not to bet turn but to check raise river seems really fishy overall, he is saying he can beat 3 eights, but that’s not really the story he was telling on the flop. So i like the call overall headsup
The action points towards our opponent's range being mainly premium draws and hands that turned a pair (of jacks). The junky draws would've continued betting. Our cards block the nuts, but much more we block our opponent's draws. We actually have decent equity here that we would hate to fold to a check-raise. Further, we have plenty of other hands that make for a good bluff. So, I check and look to bluff a lot of rivers. If we do bet, it should be big.
A. Because: you dont have a made hand, you have a drawing hand with high card. whatever your opponent check raised the flop with likely just call, and/or their theoretical drawing hands hit something and are now no longer bluffing but trying to get to show down without over bloating the pot.
I would call A. I would feel like he has the queen I just want to see if I catch magic at show down. I'm not folding easy, I would've folded to a shove that's about it
Ok. You raised pre, called a check-raise on the flop and face a check on the turn. This line by Addamo does definitely suggest a marginal made hand as you discussed. Obviously a marginal made hand would not checkraise the flop so the J is what Addamo must have. You have a draw with 11 outs and no showdown value vs this, and a chance to bluff: so far you could have a queen, and you could be able to bluff a club as well. So 11 outs, 8 clubs to bluff for sure. if you jam the river, will Addamo call down his Jack. I think he wouldn’t if a king or ace came, which are 2 of your true outs. But if a low club came off? Mmm Idunno. 11 outs is kind of a medium strength draw-about 25% equity. I think usually we should be wanting to bet premium combo draws and really junky draws here, like maybe 97 that only has
Addamo is getting 3 to 1 on his money to call. the river raise ......so I think shoving is better theoretically. I would simply go fold/shove if I was Hightroler. If he has an 8, I think this is too big as a value bet anyway, so I don't think it's working the way it should, regardless if Addamo folds. If I wanted to raise the river like I had an 8, I would probably jam and polarize my range with bluffs and made non nut hands.
At 13.54, he goes for almost all of his chips, well half of them?? Lmao yeah half is almost all, sorry that made me laugh hard whilst sittin here stoned! Johnathon i am laughing with you not at u my man u are a poker OG and i watch your vids as much as can be! You see, thats just me, not one to sit and drink tea, but instead, like to get off me trolley , but not on coffee, makes your teeth funny, like nanny mcfee, but who cares, coz like i said, sure people agree, that we watch and watch ...... THIS POKER OG! GG
Jonathan the fact that you cannot do the math for blinds 7.2 million 160000 big blind makes wonder it gives me great pause LOL I thought everybody that was a really good poker player could just figure that math I'm just as fast as I can but maybe I'm just a weirdo
