Adding Heatsinks To Motherboard VRM & Chokes Is It Worth It?

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Adding heatsinks to motherboard VRM and Chokes is it worth it?
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VRM's get hot, and so can chokes, when they get hot, they are "less good" or make parts of the system throttle to prevent damage, this can harm performance and also shorten the lifespan of the components.
So what can we do to improve that? Well adding some tiny lumps of metal to the VRM should help right?
Let's have a look and see if it is worth it.
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@mikesunboxing Год назад

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@uglybob7505 Год назад

I think VRM cooling is something that is neglected a LOT so seeing this kind of solution is great.....cheap and effective, bit like me lol. Thanks Mike and Kath.

@mikesunboxing Год назад

Totally agree, apart from the bit about you 👍

@PapaMav Год назад

@Ugly Bob-you saw 'Smile' recently and liked it; I just saw 'Halloween Ends' and liked it.

@josephdias5859 Год назад

seems good if you run a cheaper board

@AromonChannel Год назад

BROOO WHY AM I ONLY KNOW THIS AFTER 2 YEARS OWNING B450M PRO VDH MAX? WHY NO ONE EVER MENTION THAT B450M PRO VDH MAX OR OTHER MOBO THAT DOESN'T HAVE GOOD HEATSINK TO THEIR VRM CAN MAKE SCREEN TEARINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

@tunkunrunk 7 месяцев назад

somehow neglected , there's a motherboards manufacturer who added a small fan with air duct to convey air direcly to VRM surrounding the cpu . I spotted one them on Ebay, unfortunately sellers removed the cooling system , but I can't remember the brand .

@EliteRock Год назад

If you'd taken the IR readings from the back of the MB it would have given a precise delta for with/without heatsinks - the MOSFET's metal backs are soldered over their entire area to a ground-plane to sink heat to the MB (a thermocouple placed there can provide _actual_ MOSFET temperature minus maybe a couple of degrees). ETA>> another way of cooling VRM's is a fan on the back of the motherboard, stuck to the CPU backplate (silicone RTV works well, securely attaches the fan but easily cleaned off when needed) - a 90x15mm works well and can be run at fairly high RPM without being audible (particularly if it's a good quality one) - as noted above, the MOSFETS sink a lot of heat into the MB whether heatsinked or not, and the unobstructed back surface is quite conducive to air flow. You can further improve temps by cutting the motor/impeller out of its frame. On my Asus Prime Z390-A it reduced VRM temps (according to HWiNFO) by at least 10°C. This is actually an easier mod to carry out than adding heatsinks. Use a Y-splitter from the CPU fan header.

@minduton 11 месяцев назад

Good idea, but problem is, that those glue tapes are sliding due warm. And this is risky, because few months later can heatsinks make short circuit on the motherboard.

@michaelthompson9798 Год назад

I used to add these heat sinks to my original Nvidia GTS250 and other earlier model gpus and they did make an improvement in temps and more so with some case fans blowing air over them. They were cheaper to purchase them back then than they are now in comparison time / inflation etc 🥰👍😇

@mikesunboxing Год назад

if they were any more expensive i would not even consider it, but at this price it was worth a go i think

@AutodidactEngineer Год назад

When doing these mods it's best if large piece heatsinks are used in conjunction with normal thermal paste and some high temp silicone adhesive on the corners to keep them in place! Also I did notice the heatsinks that you used were extremely low profile, generally you want to pick heatsinks that are as tall as possible! I loved the video❤!

@mikesunboxing Год назад

i agree totally, this was really just a demo of what could be done

@jamesmiscellaneous Год назад

I refuse to buy a board with naked mosfets. I bet lots of people have some boards that have high TDP CPUs that run hot on some older AM4 board that has no top down cooler and no air moving around thinking everything's fine and dandy because their AIO has the CPU temps in check. I try to avoid hot spots in all forms of electronics. Like you said, sometimes it's not necessary, but I prefer to use caution whenever I can.

@mikesunboxing Год назад

caution is wise sir

@Anolaana Год назад

I've ran this motherboard (B550M-K with a Ryzen 3 quadcore) for three years (ie, pushing past warranty) and had the board start crashing, instant power-offs without BSOD, weird pixelated visual artifacts and stuff like that. I play MMOs for hours at a time and touching the MOSFETS and chokes they get pretty toasty, especially the +2 on the side! After realising the motherboard was the problem and the VRM system in particular, I'm finally upgrading to something with a sane amount of phases in the VRM. I would definitely not recommend this thing, even with the custom heatsinks added on (the M-A version has one extra VRM phase at least!). But good on you for giving it a go and giving people a budget option!

@MrMunkyMeat Год назад

I am really glad you made this video. I had been looking at some of these heatsinks for some of the budget B450 boards I have. Try to get as much as you can out of an older platform and all of that. I think a fiver would be worth it.

@mikesunboxing Год назад

with modern motherboards and hardware getting crazy expensive the older stuff seems a lot more attactive

@gibant1 Год назад

I did the same on my ASRock Z690M-ITX/ax. It dropped the temps by 20 degrees and allowed me to run a 12700 at higher wattage.

@mikesunboxing Год назад

awesome! that is a pretty decent upgrade

@PapaMav Год назад

Good vid Mike and Kath. Thank you.

@mikesunboxing Год назад

thanks James

@patricklebel1141 Год назад

I did that long time ago on an an2 biostar, iirc, because I found that it was looking nice. At the time, that was Zalman that made them. That was a little square with 4 little copper poles on them. I put them on a Gigabyte b350 with r5 1600 motherboard just for the look..

@mikesunboxing Год назад

yeah it is fun to do and can look good also

@Doobie3010 Год назад

Like these neat little mods mike-it makes an intresting video as well, we live n learn- And wont, if we dont try!

@mikesunboxing Год назад

Very true! and they don't cost much so it is a fun and cheap experiment

@Doobie3010 Год назад

@@mikesunboxing something different is nice.

@DevilbyMoonlight Год назад

I've just come across this, as I have been searching for descent after market VRM coolers, as am not happy with the solution that came with my board as my previous boards the VRM ran a lot cooler but it looks like I'll be resorting to carefully carving up an old p4 heatsink, and shaping it to fit. You may get a better idea of how well the cooling works if you can measure the temps from the back of the board underneath the VRM - as you will know the caps will also get hot, reducing their lifespan if left unchecked...

@himanologanor4093 Год назад

better with them than without, also, about that temp-gun , the laser is for a distance, at close there is a 1 inch offset, so you should not use it at closer than 1 feet, better chase the most heat on the display than watching the laser, also temp-guns hate aluminum, they usually don`t seem to be able to measure high reflective metals well

@mikesunboxing Год назад

thanks for the heads up

@PaulBakewell Год назад

I have used these a lot on raspberry pies were they do a great job. Great video thanks Mike.

@mikesunboxing Год назад

You bet they are really handy, i have to use restraint though or i would stick them everywhere

@lucvar0597 29 дней назад

Excelente video, recientemente me compre una A520M-K y estaba viendo alternativas para poder refrigerar las VRM, esto me viene perfecto, es económico y funciona bastante bien, lo voy a aplicar

@mikesunboxing 29 дней назад

glad it helped

@surfx4804 Год назад

Did you adjust the gun for the difference in thermal emissivity of the black chips vs the silver heatsinks? BTW the Amazon IR gun comes with a thermocouple, as does their clamp meter, both useful things for messing about with computer bits.

@mikesunboxing Год назад

i will look at the amazon ones with thermocouple, could come in handy

@UltimateTechHub Год назад

I'm a better safe than sorry kind of guy. I would use the heatsinks just to make myself feel better!Lol! More heatsinks is more better!! I put these on my raspberry pi4 and I'm not really sure it helps. The raspberry pi4 has a fan so I believe the fan helps more than the heatsinks. Great video Mike! Cheers!

@mikesunboxing Год назад

i just love messing around with these things, if it has a benefit, great, if not it was still fun

@MsNitro187 Год назад

great idea, congratulations

@mikesunboxing Год назад

Thank you! Cheers!

@XENONEOMORPH1979 Год назад

good idea to be honest what if you put them together in a vice then drill the middle to get copper piping through ,then screw them together for a wider heat sink for the four vram then use thermal pads underneath and not the 3m sticky stuff and try to get them to stay on the vram not thought that part out yet lol.

@CapsLock33 8 месяцев назад

Thanks! I might try this little mod.

@mikesunboxing 8 месяцев назад

Have fun!

@rakeshpk9648 Год назад

Mike excellent video yet again, thanks for this info. the MSI mouse behind you is GM12.. what model is it ? cheers !

@mikesunboxing Год назад

it is GM50 behind me, unless it is wireless and that is the gm41

@rakeshpk9648 Год назад

nice thanks !

@GamerYogi. 8 месяцев назад

7:10 you can actually point the Infrarays towards backside of motherboard ( behind vrm) to get appx. Exactly vrm temp. And do it before adding heatsink vs after to get a conclusion. Also i would suggest running an i9 on h610 motherboard since intel cpus are very powery hungry and generates heat. They will be highly affected by vrm temp.

@mikesunboxing 8 месяцев назад

thanks for the info, to be honest i wasn't looking for an exact result, just some confirmation that it would make any different at all. But thank again for the suggestion

@elfenixnight 11 месяцев назад

If the VRMs don't have sufficient cooling they can throttle the CPU. And it can be pretty subtle - after dusting out my cooler I didn't shove the fan all the way into it and the CPU throttled multiple times a minute (5900X on one of these cheap Asus Prime boards - I know, I know, but the board had been a toss-in with a 3600X). Adjusted the fan location a bit and now it doesn't throttle. I should probably go with the cheap solution of these little sinks rather than picking up a better board for a dead socket.

@curiosityjournal8792 Год назад

Hello!! Nice video, very helpful...i have a question...do you think that using a thermal glue instead the 3m glue would perform better??

@mikesunboxing Год назад

it certainly could do, the liquid glues often have a better transfer, but they are really hard to ever remove if you need to

@malcolmogilvy4885 Год назад

Heatsinks like them stuck on retro motherboards south bridge chip set chips really help but the case needs large airflow for the heat transfer to happen

@gareatouai Год назад

My though as well. I'll try to reuse the heatsinks from an old motherboard on my next one. Especially on M.2.

@PapaMav Год назад

Not surprised at the results.

@DavidUnderhill Год назад

don't bother with Heatsinks. Just throw another half dozen (or more) fans into the case. worked for me 😀

@mikesunboxing Год назад

that is also a good option

@rcane6842 11 месяцев назад

Have you tested this with a gpu? Interesting to see of having this together with an aio cooler if it would be much better than stock. VRMs are normally being cooled via the stock cooler with thick thermal pads.

@mikesunboxing 11 месяцев назад

Not yet

@mattscomp Год назад

Anyone remember Zalman with their graphics card coolers? They used to supply similar little heatsinks to put on the memory chips.

@mikesunboxing Год назад

yep still have those here somewhere

@sausageslaps Год назад

oddly enough i just had this problem, using an asrock b550m cheapo mobo for mining, no heat sinks on them was thermally throttling my mining, put a small cooling fan on them to solve it

@joypad8979 6 месяцев назад

I got problems with my VRMs and I was thinking about getting the tiny heatsinks before I do anything bigger as for example buying a new MB. As soon as my CPU hits 52°C the VRMs hit 80°C and theyre calibrated to throttle power and CPU frequency down when they reach this temp; this results into lags ingame and also cause wrong readings in temp (CPU jumps from 52°C to 206°C). Are these heatsinks worth a shot? I got bad air flow in this stock case so I also plan to install a fan to blow on the VRMs.

@mikesunboxing 6 месяцев назад

heatsinks and airflow will definitely help a little

@PapaMav Год назад

Question Mike: do you think regular thermal pads woud be sticky enough to keep a piece of aluminum, cut similar to the ones you are using, from falling away when the mobo is vertical? Thank you for your help.

@mikesunboxing Год назад

probably not with heat cycling, it would likely creep off in time

@PapaMav Год назад

@@mikesunboxing thank you Mike.

@soldiersvejk2053 Год назад

These 3M tapes are allegedly “thermally conductive”.

@rcane6842 11 месяцев назад

@@soldiersvejk2053 what does it actually mean, aside from being able to effectively transfer heat? Won't it get melted long-term? Adhesive less effective long-term? It's gonna be important especially if the electronics are placed vertically

@soldiersvejk2053 11 месяцев назад

@@rcane6842 As far as I know, if your only way to secure the heat sink is to glue it on, this is your best shot.

@kramer8487 Год назад

Do you have any tip to keep those stick when u put the mobo in a vertical position?

@mikesunboxing Год назад

the ones in the video are adhesive and are staying put

@panayiotispapakyriakou5258 Год назад

Did you also stick heatsinks on the taller components? Is there any benefit to that?

@mikesunboxing Год назад

not sure, it might help

@matthewday7565 Год назад

Maybe you should have lifted the board or had it vertical, and measured temperature on the back, the heatsinks may be cooler than the bare VRM devices, but how much is lost across the thermal tape?

@mikesunboxing Год назад

good point, that is a good idea

@WellBeSerious12 Год назад

Please retest with bigger heatsinks, and also versus mini fans!

@mikesunboxing Год назад

will try to

@_r1r2 6 месяцев назад

Hi i bought a new mobo since my old mobo vrm is burned i wonder if cpu will still work on newly bought mobo? Im afraid to put the cpu to the new mobo.

@mikesunboxing 6 месяцев назад

i hope it will be okay

@Senrab46 Год назад

2bh i didnt kniw which were vrms! Thought those cubes were generating heat lol. Its a pity the software doesnt congirm temps as the outer surface of the aluminium shud b lot cooler as furthest away from heat source. Looks smart and low cost which is all uou want with budget board. Plus being aluminium if loosened wudnt conduct electricity or cause damage, wud it? Thanks for sharing Mike and Kath👍

@mikesunboxing Год назад

yes if it falls off it could be very bad news, although it should just drop to the floor of the case and the adhesive on there seems very strong considering the weight of the heatsinks.

@tareko2142 8 месяцев назад

Should the heatsink thing touch all the components? I mean the mosfets and the VRM, or just the mosfets?

@mikesunboxing 8 месяцев назад

it is better if it touches more things if it can

@hamstersandwich2801 2 месяца назад

This test would be great on a budget 12/13th gen intel board where you can unlock the power on say a 13400f

@AintPopular Год назад

bigger sinks might have work better with screws helps from falling off as well

@ps3customgamer Год назад

Also infrared sensors can’t pick up on shiny metallic surfaces

@thefisherman4380 11 месяцев назад

What if you use thermal glue on vrm, then use a thermalpad to stick to it, then make a bigger thermal cooler for vrm, like if you have a deffektive older motherboard and you bought a budged motherboard with no vrm cooling solotion. Can you stick thermal glue first on vrm then thermalpad then a bigger cooler? The reason i ask to use thermal glue then thermal pad is becouse on some of the vrms there are capasitors that is higher then the vrm. I tried with just sticking a thermalpad and a small ssd cooler and the temp went down 10c on vrm just with the small cooler.

@mikesunboxing 11 месяцев назад

that might work

@thefisherman4380 11 месяцев назад

@@mikesunboxing i have an old and deffective motherboard, that motherboard has some good heatsink for vrm. i was planing on useing that on my new budged lga 1700 motherboard that has poor vrm heatsink. i want to try this since the motherboard might last longer since the vrm temps will go down, i see alot of the budged motherboard dont have a heatsink on vrms, maybe thats how they cut the cost on them? so maybe adding a vrm heatsink from an older motherboard and sticking it on it will make the new board better for when pairing it with a good cpu. i know alot of people might cheap out on motherboard and get a good cpu and good gpu and good psu, and just a simple and easy way to forlong its life and to almost elimiate vrm throtteling is to make it cooler so the motherboard will have a good time hehe. But i have heard that the heatsink should NOT touch the capasitors around the vrms, this might couse a short circut? is this something you are familiar to? i have done this before, worked great, but what scares me is the new motherboard lga1700 has 4 capasitors a little higher then the vrms.

@daxmack 2 месяца назад

so ive been having pc restarts while gaming and the temps seem fine, but I don't have heat sinks on my vrm and I feel like that might be the cause of it because I've done everything else possible to fix the issue. the problem started when I put a i9-9900kf in the rig and my mother board is a asus tuf z370 plus gaming. my PC restarts less than 5 mins into the game and I don't get any bsod

@mikesunboxing 2 месяца назад

what motherboard and cooler are you using?

@daxmack 2 месяца назад

@@mikesunboxing im using a icue h150i rbg pro xt

@daxmack 2 месяца назад

the mother board is a asus tuf z370 plus gaming

@ps3customgamer Год назад

The best solution to vrm cooling I’ve found is to run an AIO and add this printed bracket with a arctic 92mm fan. You 30 degree lower vrm and m.2 drive temps and cpu temps are even helped.

@mikesunboxing Год назад

cool idea

@brianwalker7771 6 дней назад

Try a larger heatsink. then try the same new sink with a small fan or two. Would be an interesting experiment.

@djthashock Год назад

I do such Mod in my AMD FX System. But i'm not using these Heatsinks. I just connect a Fan. In the Direction of the VRAMs and this was Night and Day. 30 degrees in Avg.

@mikesunboxing Год назад

that might be my next plan, maybe a tiny noctua pwm fan

@djthashock Год назад

@@mikesunboxing I use a big 120 fan. Simply i stand the fan on my GPU faced to the vrms. It worked perfectly.

@Shadowat00 Год назад

Nice idea. But if it somehow fell off, it will cause serious short circuit in your board or gpu.

@mikesunboxing Год назад

it could do but the adhesive is really very strong and as the heatsinks are quite lightweight it would be a long long time before the glue broke down and gave up

@ConfusionDistortion 2 месяца назад

I have done this on a few different boards for LGA 775, AM2+, and AM3+. It works much better if you use a thermal epoxy to attach the heat sinks. Granted you wont be removing them ever again, but you'd be doing this to a cheaper budget board, so why would you want to anyway?

@mikesunboxing 2 месяца назад

Great tip!

@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie Год назад

Get them in Copper. if you can. look's great with the silver part on the board. and Copper do a better job than aluminium. Mike's How to is Worthy of a Support comment. Like & a share 🙂

@mikesunboxing Год назад

i'll look out for copper ones, cheers

@josephmccarthy9228 2 месяца назад

Gracias por el video , me aclaro dudoas Like + sub

@mikesunboxing 2 месяца назад

gracias

@Synthematix Год назад

Oh these will work, but the supplied adhesive tape aint great, what i do is mix thermal paste with 2part epoxy, saw another 4c shaved off the stock thermal tape, and if you do want to remove them it will just come off in one piece, so in general without and with the heatsinks and epoxy there was a 11c difference on full load, never trust that tape, if they fall off its goodbye graphics card

@mikesunboxing Год назад

Thanks for the info

@TEST-gh4zs Год назад

Dude need your help I need b450 Motherboard for ryzen 5 3600 and Rtx 2060 I work on my pc , maybe 12 hours / day For editing video , like premiere pro Can u suggest me what the best motherboard i can buy for my workflow ??

@mikesunboxing Год назад

b450 tomahawk maybe or b450 aorus elite

@TEST-gh4zs Год назад

@@mikesunboxing How about rog stix f ii Asus tuf plus ii Tomahawk max Same price in my place Sooo what do you recomended ??

@mikesunboxing Год назад

@@TEST-gh4zs This is maybe easier to advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

@saeedupdate8311 Месяц назад

I changed my laptop's pads then faced the VRM thermal throttling error while using the Cinebench test.

@mikesunboxing Месяц назад

sorry to hear that

@wipatriot510 5 месяцев назад

What I'd hoped for, and wanted to get out of this was the fact that adding these heatsinks would either prevent or at the very least minimize the VR thermal throttling...

@sumonghosh7550 Год назад

Can anyone tell me the size of those tiny heatsink?

@mikesunboxing Год назад

it is in the video description links

@SuperNapolitanka Год назад

Dark Rock TF2 cools down entire motherboard regardless of heatsinks. This is great cheap quick fix.

@IntuitiveLegend777 Год назад

Sir need urgent help as i had told you regarding my PCs issue in the past comment. I replaced my GPU with a new one via replacement. Now my PC is restarting automatically each time i run any graphics intensive game and each time the restart happens my XMP profiles and fan curves are restored to default, what could be the cause? I think it might be the PSU or it might be Mobo ? Please help me

@Doobie3010 Год назад

Maybe replace your cmos battery, or at least pop it out fot a minute or so, that should reset your bios to default-that might help. Or maybe you have integrated graphics on & conflicting with your gpu?

@himanologanor4093 Год назад

sounds like your PSU is not good enough for this new video card

@mikesunboxing Год назад

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

@IntuitiveLegend777 Год назад

@@himanologanor4093 PSU is more than sufficient , 750w gold while my power need is just 450-500watts. I replaced CMOS BATTERY .

@IntuitiveLegend777 Год назад

@@Doobie3010 no integrated graphics Ryzen 5 5600x is my CPU and yes i have replaced my CMOS battery still the issue doesn't solve, PSU is also RMAed.

@paulgaurav72 Год назад

Please do next time use thermal paste

@PapaMav Год назад

Much the same result as those who cram fans in their case in every spot possible; not worth the dough and trouble.

@Morpheus-pt3wq Год назад

Note: The adhesive on these most of the time ISN´T thermally conductive. Thermally conductive adhesive tape is expensive and you won´t get that sort of material with few alu heatsinks for 4€... As it is, you actually isolated your VRM, not helped cooling it down.

@akujigito6885 Год назад

Can add glue or not sir?

@mikesunboxing Год назад

thermal glue would be okay

@Adam130694 7 месяцев назад

You should measure temperature of backside, where VRM sits…

@mikesunboxing 7 месяцев назад

Thanks I realise that now but some people have said that thicker boards will give incorrect results due to extra pcb layers

@Adam130694 7 месяцев назад

@@mikesunboxing but temperature difference would still be there… anyway keep going!

@OlettaLiano Год назад

Hi, Mike. I think I'd try making a monoblock that covered the CPU and VRMs and water-cool those bad boys. 😂👍💦

@mikesunboxing Год назад

that is a bit above my skill levels, but would love to do that

@uglybob7505 Год назад

@@mikesunboxing He likes to chill his monkey with a monoblock

@OlettaLiano Год назад

@@mikesunboxing It's actually a little above my skill level too. But if I had the parts and a computerized drill to cut a good groove for the O-ring, I'd give it a go.

@OlettaLiano Год назад

@@uglybob7505 Who doesn't like to chill their monkey with a monoblock?

@mikesunboxing Год назад

@@uglybob7505 Lol!