Adidas Adios Pro 3 - An outstanding race shoe nearly ruined by a dreadful upper

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This was a video that I didn't intend to make, especially given the Adidas Adios Pro 4 will be launching soon. This is actually my second pair of Adidas Adios Pro 3s. I originally bought a pair around the launch in 2022, put a bit over 72km (45miles) into them and absolutely hated them, mostly due to the upper but also the feel of Lightstrike Pro. So they went straight into the donation bin.
However, I have been running in the Adidas Takumi Sen 9 for about 5 months now, which made me appreciate Lightstrike Pro finally. Additionally, during my testing of the Nike Vaporfly 3 I got curious to run in this shoe again, and I couldn't resist the "Non-dyed" colorway. I put another 56km (35miles) into the pair featured in this video and really grew to appreciate Lightstrike Pro and what Adidas is doing with their racing line in 2023. Also, the Adios Pro 3 informed many of my opinions on the Nike Vaporfly 3.
Together, both pairs of of Adios Pro 3s I've run in total: 130.20km (80.9miles)
Which I think qualifies for a 50 mile review.
0:00 Intro & Disclosure
0:59 What is wrong with the upper?
10:24 The Takumi Sen 9 upper fixes everything
11:57 Hope for the Adios Pro 4 upper
13:23 The outstanding midsole of the Adios Pro 3
18:17 How will I use the Adios Pro 3 (and 4)
19:32 Outro
Thanks for watching! Leave a comment and let me know what you think.
Disclosures: No one is paying me to make this video and no one has any editorial control over the contents of this video. Additionally, I have no connection into Adidas’s design or marketing process. Everything I cover in this video is my own opinion and experience.
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@iled6319 6 месяцев назад

More people need to know this and talk about this!! The eyelet and upper issue need to be shouted from the rooftop. So many reviewers missed this point, good on you for calling this out!!

@SagasuRunning 6 месяцев назад

I mean… there is alot of discussion on it and it’s been out there for two years now. It is also one of those things that if you are lucky to have the right shaped foot you’ll never experience it… but for the rest of us it’s a bummer because the midsole/outsole of this shoe is outstanding.

@Andre-wm2ir Год назад

Thank you so much for this video! The inside provided again is priceless, since it has cleared up so many issues that I had with this shoe. This is really the shoe I love and hate the most at the same time. No other midsole feels that good to me (zoomx is a bit too soft and asics for example a bit too hard for my taste), but the lockdown in this shoe is just terrible. I had runs, where i literally relaced the shoe ten times in order to find the right balance between not hurting because of the lacing but still having a good enough lockdown. If there was a shoe with the (for me) perfect lockdown of the asics sky + and the feel/midsole of adios pro 3, I would never want to run in another shoe again (apart from the invincible for easy running) ! Again, thank you very much for the video, appreciate it! The attention to detail is exceptional!

@SagasuRunning Год назад

I’m glad this helped you understand what was going on with the AP3. I really hope they fix the lockdown issues in the AP4.

@VietLe-ht5mk Год назад

Same here! I love the midsole but not the upper. I actually got PB with the shoes several times, but in pain throughout

@youadeler 3 месяца назад

We are experiencing the same. Love your suggestion :) Metapro 3 +

@ryantinney Год назад

Another excellent review.

@SagasuRunning Год назад

Thank you 🙏🏻

@MINIMALmtb Год назад

I feel like those complaining about the upper are tightening the laces way too tight. I did the same thing at first and had the same issues. I now leave the laces a little looser and it works great. I also run with the heel collar up which eliminated any issues in the heel.

@SagasuRunning Год назад

That helps slightly… but still the midfoot lock is in the forefoot… which is a complete mess. I even went and found the socks Adidas recommends to work with this shoe. No lock. The mid foot lock is very poorly positioned so it doesn’t matter how tight or loose you make the shoe… the fit is still wonky.

@ThatRunnerAaron Год назад

Absolutely agree, i thought the shoe wasn’t for me, I kept feeling the carbon rod under the ball of my foot after about 15k of running but once I loosened up the upper it really changed the shoe for me.

@maciej2455 10 месяцев назад

@@SagasuRunning what are those socks?

@SagasuRunning 10 месяцев назад

@@maciej2455 I can't find them in adidas.com, but they are "Adizero aero ready" no-show socks. It's what the rep in the Adidas store i bought these shoes in said is their sock for racing.

@maciej2455 10 месяцев назад

@@SagasuRunning thanks a lot!

@KoIhara Год назад

Thank you for covering this. There seems to be plenty of viewers who agree with you. I think some are okay with the fit-related discomfort given that this is racing shoes, but I can’t tolerate that over the course of a full marathon. Hopefully they can fix that down the line.

@SagasuRunning Год назад

Ya… it’s SUCH a dreadful upper that has so many poor decisions in it. The good news is the upper on the Adios 8 is very good… so we know Adidas can make a better upper. We shall see!

@VietLe-ht5mk Год назад

Totally on point. I got same problem, very harsh rubbing on my big toe joint bone, nearly led to scratch at one time. The worst upper out of the race shoes I ran in.

@SagasuRunning Год назад

Totally agree. Hopefully they fix this in the AP4.

@DillonJan Год назад

Please review the puma deviate nitro 2 as well, seems like a good bragain for a plated daily trainer, lots of good reviews from it. Anyway, keep up with the amazing content 👍👍

@SagasuRunning Год назад

I’ll add it to the list. Never say never, but we will see. I’ve never run in a Puma shoe. Thought they are widely available where I live. Thanks for the kind words! 🙏🏻

@Pittimus84 3 месяца назад

I know this video is almost a year old, but the last time I ran in my Pro 3's was over a year ago and yesterday I was reminded why I liked them but why I hated them even more, for many of the same reasons you covered here.

@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад

I’ve actually been running in these again, pain free. Finding the right sock makes a world of difference. One that cushions enough… but more importantly grips the inside of the shoe so your foot doesn’t move at all. I’ll have an update video on it in May.

@Pittimus84 3 месяца назад

@@SagasuRunningdefinitely interested in an update, which sock? I like how the shoe well midsole works on a run, that it’s probably the widest super shoe also, but the upper as you stated and I personally know is just terrible. I still can’t believe just how much worse the upper is over my VF2 or MS Sky +

@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад

@Pittimus84 The Saucony Endorphin Pro 4 is a touch wider be less harsh on the foot. I talk about the sock I found in the video going live on the channel tonight (in about 30mins). Check the AP3 chapter…

@olliec1319 6 месяцев назад

Really useful thanks. I've just a pair and come accross your review after. So far I'm getting a lot of rubbing just under the ankle which is giving small blisters after a 10km run. So will see if I can play around with the socks and tightness of lacing. But this aside I love them so far.

@SagasuRunning 6 месяцев назад

If it wasn’t for the upper on this shoe I’d spend ALOT more time in it. That midsole… so nice!

@anders8493 2 месяца назад

I had the same issue and returned mine. Did the rubbing under the ankle go away for you?

@olliec1319 2 месяца назад

@@anders8493 Actually it did go away. I had no issues in the end and they felt great for my whole marathon.

@pbnotj1 Год назад

I hear you. Haven’t had any real deal breaker issues as long as I keep front of lace area loose , but I think needs some upper tweaks. For me still a great shoe as 6’1 muscular 200 lb runner this midsole works so well for me . I got it for 125 bucks so I am totally ok with a few issues. Often find it for 175 (holabird has on sale for this right now). I think if I paid full price , then would be tougher to tolerate.

@SagasuRunning Год назад

Ya, for a runner your size the AP3 is a great race option as LSP has enough support and firmness to work for you. Hopefully the AP4 will have none of these issue!

@OdanUrr87 6 месяцев назад

Finally pulled the trigger on the Adios Pro 3 and I have to say, I'm liking it a lot, it's a shoe I'm excited to pick up for any run! I was wary of all the issues you pointed out with the upper, but (so far), while some are noticeable (that scratchy heel pad), none of them have been a problem for me, perhaps because I'm not really using them for anything close to marathon pace (and time). In fact, I even went down half a size from my normal US 10.5 and they fit quite well. What surprised me, after using them for a variety of runs (base, tempo, threshold), is how good they feel in all of them (they feel awesome when picking up the pace!), even doing a slower base run I feel it takes less effort and it's easier to maintain my pace compared to, say, my Triumph 20s. I suspect the firmer midsole is the reason why. I may have to consider getting myself a daily trainer with a firmer midsole in the future.

@SagasuRunning 6 месяцев назад

The midsole on the AP3 is absolutely outstanding. If the upper isn’t giving you problems then you are good to go. Sounds like a great shoe for you! The firmer foam with higher resiliency combined with the curve of the carbon rods really works well to both roll you forward and give you some pop off the toe. Especially so if this is your first carbon plated/riddled shoe…. The feeling will be VERY distinct. Another good thing about Lightstrike Pro is it’s very durable and you don’t need to worry about “using it up”… it just gets better and better the more you run in it. The outsole on the AP3 is outstanding as well. In my mind you have the best mix between the AP3 and the Triumph 20s. A stiff and propulsive shoe and a more flexible shoe. Your feet and legs will get the best of both worlds. If you want to add a stiffer trainer the Adidas SL is a good basic daily trainer than is on the firmer side (the SL 2 should be coming out soon though). The Adidas Boston 12 is the stiff faster training counter part to the AP3. Enjoy them though. 🤙🏻

@ABucc Год назад

I love this shoe for race day. I have my PR in these shoes, but I know what you mean by the upper. I have experienced pain on the top of my foot after a few miles. Maybe it's because I tighten the laces too tight, but with the stack height that this shoe has, you need to tighten it to get a good lockdown fit.

@SagasuRunning Год назад

100%… it’s such an amazing midsole and outsole. The upper is just so bad. Hopefully they fix it all in the AP4. 🤞🏻

@ValentinosTselios 3 месяца назад

The best presentation of this shoe. I couldn't agree more that its upper almost destroyed the excellent foam and overall feel of the shoe . Unfortunately its awful upper caused me alot of pain in the joints of my left and right big fingers . Hope adidas totally changes this upper so as not to lose me and many more runners

@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад

The AP4 upper looks to have solved most of this… thankfully.

@ianstyring9602 Год назад

I have to disagree on the mid foot lockdown, as the Pro 3's seem perfect for me. I did encounter the heal rub from the stitching (only in the left shoe), but a change of socks has cured that. No issues anywhere else. I feel that the Pro 3 is a great compromise between the Pro 2 and the Prime x Strung. I even where the Pro 3's walking around tow, they are soooo comfy and light.

@SagasuRunning Год назад

You are the rare lucky one who doesn’t have problem with the upper on the AP3. Lucky lucky! Hopefully we all get that comfort with the AP4.

@ericwj7 11 месяцев назад

Have the same problem, the Pro 2 was fine for me personally ran a Marathon in it pain free and those bumps up front are pretty high inside the shoe. Makes it unusable for me as a marathon show, I have wider feet but that’s why I loved the previous upper, cut my small toes in trying it out. Many reviews say the upper needs work but it’s those first 2 bonded and stitched eyelets that really are a horrible design. Glad you made a video about it!

@SagasuRunning 11 месяцев назад

Ya, this is such a problem with this shoe. It’s good to see on the AP4 images we have seen (still unclear if the shoe is real) they have removed the lower eyelets…

@mykolkaaa 24 дня назад

I was quite comfortable running straight in these shoes. Hopefully the blood from the blisters won't seep through the socks and stain those perfect white sneakers.

@SagasuRunning 24 дня назад

The staining only happened once. The good thing is the upper material is basically plastic, so it doesn't stain much. Since I recorded this video I have found socks that protect my feet and allow problem free running in this shoe. The upper is still a poor design but at least I found a solve.

@t.w.p.9651 11 месяцев назад

Thanks you for the problem pointing out! I have the same issue in my left foot. Have you came up with the solution of how to deal with the first two lace loops Blister issue, would very like to know and if you could share with us would be grateful!!

@SagasuRunning 11 месяцев назад

The only solution I have is taping the joints of my foot and/or bandaids… but they only work so well and will run off. The ultimate solution is to wait for the Adios Pro 4 or 5 and hope Adidas streamlines the upper (like they did on the Adios 8).

@t.w.p.9651 11 месяцев назад

@@SagasuRunning Thanks for sharing the solutions, I've tried the kt tapes taping through the top of all joints of the foot, and loosen up the first three holes tightness, but only tighten up around the mid foot area, it works averagely and reasonably good, for my mid-long run around 15km. Would keep trying the longer distance see if this one could hold up through the whole marathon.

@notall1196 4 месяца назад

I'm making the move away from Saucony this year, I can work around the upper, just need to know if there is any kind of arch support in this, I have some what sensitive arches. Hoping to grab a pair during easter next week, hoping for a nice sale. Disappointed in the Endorphin pro 4 this go around

@SagasuRunning 4 месяца назад

Well… the AP3 midfoot feels similar to the Endorphin Speed 4 but much less pronounced than what Nike does in the Alphafly. I’d recommend trying them on if you can. That’s the only way to know…

@dukhu7901 Год назад

I got the same problem with Adios Pro 2, my heel slips during the time I run though I lace it absolutely tight, it can't lock down the midfoot, and the heel

@SagasuRunning Год назад

Have you tried a runner knot to help with the heel lockdown?

@RWG0914 8 месяцев назад

I'm a slow pace runner I tend to run/walk in my races. My question is if I would pick the Adios Pro 3 would it be a better choice for my type of running?

@SagasuRunning 8 месяцев назад

It will do fine…but it’s far from ideal. Instead take a look at the Asics Superblast. That is the ideal shoe for what you described. No compromise for running and walking… it’s basically a super shoe without a plate/rods and you’ll be much better off in it. I have a few videos on my channel on it and there will be some more this winter.

@pmfahey 9 месяцев назад

Love the midsole, hate the upper. I have the exact problem you described. I was hoping to use these instead of Vaporfly 3s (or New Balance Supercomp 3s) for my last marathon of the year for the added stability, but developed a bad blister a week out from my race during a slow and short 6 mile run.

@SagasuRunning 9 месяцев назад

Ya, the upper is downright hostile to most feet. It’s still mind blowing to be how many bad engineering and design choices were made on this upper.

@Chungdol 6 месяцев назад

Very late reply, but this is the frst video I have seen covering this. I can completly agree to all points. I have a very weird size where the 43 1/3 is actually too long, but gives me better hold in the midfood, so if i ordered one smaller, I get pressure points everywhere, but with the 43 1/2 I'm forced to run with CEP achilles support socks, then this shoe works perfectly, otherwise it is unrunable for me. I still made this as my long distance easy pace trainer, because of the upper. Meanwhile the takumi sen 9 - which has the same problem with the lenght - I don't have any problems at all.

@SagasuRunning 6 месяцев назад

I’m glad I’m not alone, tho the I did go TTS with my pair. The Takumi Sen 9 is much narrower, but has a much cleaner, simpler and better considered upper so not surprised it works better. The AP3 upper really is an unfortunate design choice all-around.

@alb.1911 3 месяца назад

I bought the Adios Pro 3 today, the new black color. The front upper has plenty of space for my foot and I don’t feel any hot spots. I had to buy half size bigger than the Boston 12.

@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад

Enjoy them.

@wordisout242 Год назад

the loops below the eyelets caused me a deep blister and cost me a PB in my last marathon race

@SagasuRunning Год назад

I hear you. Absolutely the worst possible place to put them for both foot lock down and pressure points/blistering.

@ThatRunnerAaron Год назад

It’s 100% not the best upper, but if you mess about with the lacing a bit it can really improve the lockdown. Loosening up the laces really helped me, but yeah, it’s not the best. Really hope they make a strung version in the future. Can’t groan about the midsole though, it’s amazing.

@SagasuRunning Год назад

Sure, you can adjust the lacing to get some type of fit that is moderately acceptable and only mildly damages your foot. However, you shouldn’t have to worry about that and it doesn’t address the overall poor design choices on the upper. The midsole and outsole though… are near perfection for LSP. That makes the horrible upper even more insulating.

@tomverdich184 3 месяца назад

Hey Chris, just curious as to whether you've any experience with the Adios Pro 2. I have the AP3 and really enjoy it and am a big fan of LSP, but it's a little too bulky for shorter efforts/races. I've heard the AP2 is better in this regard...

@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад

You want the Takumi Sen 10 then. The update this year made the shoe considerably more durable for a wider range of running. I never ran I. The AP2, but it’s over 3 years old now and very outdated. The TS10 has the same rods as the AP3 , just not carbon fiber, and sounds much more like what you are looking for.

@tomverdich184 3 месяца назад

@@SagasuRunning I had the TS8 briefly but found it too stiff and too aggressive. TS10 sounds a little softer and more versatile so definitely one I'll check out. Cheers!

@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад

Softer foam, slightly… but stiffer overall due to the full length Energy Rods 2.0

@SagasuRunning Год назад

Please read the video description for more context on this review. As always, I'd love to know your thoughts on the Adidas Adios Pro 3.

@subhi2698 4 месяца назад

how does the size works for you in AP3. Do you go tts? How does it compare to nike size. Something always bother me is nike 6.5uk is 7uk in adidas and its annoying. This is if we compare by cm. Would you go half size down or stick to tts in AP 3?

@SagasuRunning 4 месяца назад

TTS, same as a Nike for me. The length of the shoe in a US Men’s 9 (27.0) is perfect for me and puts the rods in the right place on my foot. The eyelet chain anchors and overall horrible upper are the problem beyond the size.

@subhi2698 4 месяца назад

@@SagasuRunning how much room you have in nike vs adidas in your toebox

@SagasuRunning 4 месяца назад

@subhi2698 They fit very similar for me, around 1 8-10mm from the top of my big toe to the front of the shoe.

@subhi2698 4 месяца назад

@@SagasuRunning thanks!

@tophersymps 10 месяцев назад

I got the same bad blister on top of my big toe knuckle and a bit on my heal... really like the rest of the ride from the shoe.. trying to decide if i should keep or return..

@SagasuRunning 10 месяцев назад

My experience with the problem is it just doesn’t go away. If you have it, you’ll always have it. It’s just such poor design it is shocking.

@tophersymps 10 месяцев назад

@@SagasuRunning ugh that's not good to hear.. I've only done two runs in them but the longer one gave me the issue.. may try one more long run

@SagasuRunning 10 месяцев назад

@tophersymps Good luck! The midsole is so tempting though… I know.

@Peter_Scott 2 месяца назад

Agree about the toe box area. My toe box material is completely puckered up. The tongue is too thin and annoying when getting you feet in. But the worst part is the eyelet chain/mid-foot on the medial side really digs in. I've tried skipping eyelets and laces and still get a dull pain after 5/7km. Much prefer the off centre lacing that Nike have. Other than the above… its a good shoe. I'd like to see a better tongue and lacing system on the v4. Longer laces too!

@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад

The AP4 upper seems to resolve all of the problems. The odd eyelet chain, with the mechanical lock at the base, seems to be gone. The think tongues and laces are still around, but that’s a classic Adizero thing now. Adidas 2024 fits are much much better on the foot!

@peterwilkins7013 8 месяцев назад

Got this a couple of weeks ago and I've got bruising slightly on both big toes. Can't quite work out why, not sure if foot is slipping slightly and pushing against the end of the shoe. But tying it tighter means the material around the eyelets digs in. Heel seems fine so far. Haven't worked out best way of tying. Shame as it feels great otherwise, responsive and fast. The Boston 11 on the other hand the other way around. Upper i find is fine and fitting no problem. But it feels heavy and not that responsive.

@SagasuRunning 8 месяцев назад

I bet it has something to do with the upper material, and that has absolutely no give as well. Your foot is likely moving slightly in the shoe, due to the terrible lockdown. Even if the eyelet design works for your foot the lockdown, mechanically being at the base of the chain, doesn’t exactly give the best hold. Everytime I think about the upper on the AP3 it makes me angry how absolutely bad it is.

@naj114 8 месяцев назад

Picked these up for £134, can't wait to run in them!

@SagasuRunning 8 месяцев назад

Hopefully they fit your feet well. If they do they are amazing!

@steventanugrahaify 3 месяца назад

does anybody having an issue with their side arch? Everytime I run with the AP3, my side arch is always rubbing againts the shoe and giving me chaffing

@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад

Side arch? Which side to you mean? Inside or outside of your foot?

@steventanugrahaify 3 месяца назад

@@SagasuRunning Inside of the food. I find that the shoe is narrow so I think that it might causes the chaf

@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад

@steventanugrahaify Ok, yes… it is narrow but additionally there is no material in the midsole there (the large cutout) so there is little support in that area of the shoe. So if you have a low or weak arch and need support it will likely be an issue.

@youadeler 3 месяца назад

Good depth. Just ran 2 pb’s with them and I think they are superfadt. But severe pain in toe ball. Horrible to knit to fit my foot and I now understand why.

@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад

Ya, it’s so unfortunate. The midsole and outsole are so good. The key is finding a sock that makes the shoe pain free for you. It’s takes some trial and error but is worth it.

@hernan0201 2 месяца назад

wondering if going half size up will solve the eyelet/upper issue?

@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад

Maybe, but. If the pressure from the base of the eyelet chain is due to how tight the shoes is there it could help. However, the upper is fairly generous on the AP3 so going up a half size will likely mean the shoe is now too large and you get foot movement in the upper which will make everything worst. Especially lace bite. The boot solution is to find a mid weight sock that grips the upper material. That is what I’ve done.

@anandyantotamma5833 5 месяцев назад

The front part of the upper is exactly what I feel. Just tried it and my big toe joint got blister on both feet after just 8 kilometers and got worse because of the sweaty socks and decided to end the run at 11km. I thought it was just me experiencing this problem until I watched your RU-vid channel. Any idea how to avoid or fix the blister problem? I also feel heel slip probably because I didn't tie the lace so tight. But I like the midsole and energy return it gives.

@SagasuRunning 5 месяцев назад

I uses band-aids (plasters) on the big toe knuckle and a midnight sock… it’s the only solution I’ve found for me. There are alot of things only on how to cut away the two lower eyelets and their anchors but then the lockdown would be even worst… The heel counter and lockdown overall is also an issue for many (not me thankfully). A thicker sock may be your own option here as well… finding a material that “catches” the inner fabric of the heel counter (I find “feetures” brand socks do this well.

@anandyantotamma5833 5 месяцев назад

@@SagasuRunning Thanks for the advice... will try to rearrange the lace, use band-aid, and thicker socks 👍

@SagasuRunning 5 месяцев назад

Good luck. It IS worth the trouble for the midsole! 🤙🏻

@vanguyen Год назад

Would Boston 12 be okay as an alternative to this? Thanks

@SagasuRunning Год назад

Depends on your pace. If you are doing the marathon distance slower than 4 hours, the B12 will do very well. If you are going to a marathon closer to 3 hours I might look at a race shoe. The B12 will do ok, but you’d be better off in a proper race shoe. There should be an AP4 soon…

@vanguyen Год назад

@@SagasuRunning thanks very much!

@chunfaichin3531 11 месяцев назад

I got takumi sen 9...its same problem with upper...i put a insole only slove that problem.. Foam was super great... That feel like more u run more u will love it...

@SagasuRunning 11 месяцев назад

LIghtstirke Pro foam does get better the more you run in it… especially hot to about 250km or so. It’s really very durable.

@markoljustina Год назад

Sharp upper, firm laces, bad lockdown, too tin tongue (I have pain from laces after long runs) and i feel midsole firmness on long runs above 20km

@SagasuRunning Год назад

Like I said… I hope the AP4… has a similar upper to the Takumi Sen 9. It will be a very comfortable shoe for long distance for sure.

@cameronthaijohnson Год назад

Agreed. The midsole is great. The upper is really bad. I like a snug fit and prefer an 8.5 fit-wise in these to my regular 9, but I absolutely cannot size down to get the more secure fit because of how much pain the lace loops underneath the upper rubbing on the big toe knuckle causes. The heel counter also blistered pretty bad because of how rough it is. Also just the roughness of the material in the toebox folding and rubbing on the top of the forefoot was uncomfortable. The worst part is that the lace loop on top of the big toe knuckle is so bad that it still bothers my foot even with the kinda sloppy fit in my regular 9, so the lockdown is bad and loose and then it still rubs. The upper really is terrible. I agree that the Takumi Sen 9 upper is good though and it fits way better than the 8. It feels like a big improvement from the 8. Here's hoping to a Strung upper on the next Adios Pro that fixes it.

@SagasuRunning Год назад

100% agree... The good thing is that Adidas uppers have been getting streamlined and better since the AP3. So all trends are pointing to the AP4 being much much better in the upper. 🤞🏻

@putudutama2601 11 месяцев назад

same problem here, my big toe knuckle hurt so bad & only on my left foot

@fuhanchu 9 месяцев назад

The rods are so flimsy. if the rod acts similarly as the Nike’s carbon plate, I want to question what are these carbon insert’s true function here. May be the energy return is generated from the foam. rod/plate could be more as a stability for the soft unstable super foam

@SagasuRunning 9 месяцев назад

Rods/plates are adding stability. In Adidas’s case though, since LSP foam is so dense/firm, they more guide the foot on initial strike and toe off giving a hint of stability for both.

@subhi2698 5 месяцев назад

how this perform with fast pace short distance?

@SagasuRunning 5 месяцев назад

Assuming this means 5-10k races. If so, it’s fine, but there are better choices. The Takumi Sen is Adidas’s short rracer. Also a Vaporfly or Evo 1 will be faster than the AP3. Any racing shorter than the above… this shoe would definitely not be my first choice.

@sercancuhadar 3 месяца назад

I didnt have any issues with the upper. Maybe becouse of my foot shape or maybe becouse of my socks. I'm using cheapet decathlon kiprun socks for almost everything. Very thin, synthetic, and work pretty well with adios pro3 as well. No blister, no hot poins, no lace pressure issues what so ever. By the way, I ❤ pro 3. Great great long run/race shoe.

@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад

I was using very thin socks at the time I recorded this. Since I’ve moved to slightly thicker socks and it has made a huge difference. I have a high arch ans high volume foot… so Adizero uppers take some work for my foot to adapt. That still doesn’t excuse the horrendous design choices made on this upper.

@iandutra3851 7 месяцев назад

Perfect definition

@SagasuRunning 7 месяцев назад

🤙🏻

@talty31 3 месяца назад

Wish I had seen this before I bought this. Insane blistering on my heels

@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад

The heels is one place I don’t get any problems with this upper. Finding the right sock though, one that grips the inside of the shoe, is vital.

@talty31 3 месяца назад

The issues you explain from 4.46 is what's killing me

@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад

@talty31 Ya, this really is a problem for most runners… not only in this shoe, but across most (or all) of the 2022/23 Adizero shoes. Again, finding the right sock, that grips that area in the shoe… and cushions/protects is key. I do see your issues now. I consider that more achilles than heel… but yes, I experienced that.

@talty31 3 месяца назад

Yes it is achilles my bad! Thanks for the video and advice 👌

@JP-gy6mv 10 месяцев назад

I just got mine and im returning them right away, I thought I could work my way around the upper like it seems others have. I was wrong, it’s so bad. The overlay in the toebox dips right into my big toe, I’ve tried everything in terms of lacing it differently and had no difference. I feel like anytime I have to do that much to try and fix a shoe it’s a no go. I’m amazed the athletes who would’ve tested this said nothing.

@SagasuRunning 10 месяцев назад

The only runners I have seen that don't have top of the foot issues are those with lower arches and a lower volume foot. Everyone else will have an issue somewhere, some worst than others. Good thing is it looks like the next Adios Pro will fix this massive design flaw and the future of Adidas uppers looks better and better.

@fwhoch Год назад

Ive run 2 marathons (on the Adios Pro 3) and am going on my second pair of Adios Pro 3s and have to say I haven’t had any of the issues mentioned here. I haven’t had any blisters or hot spots around the toe box or heel area. Discussing with other runners i think wider feet are more prone to such issues, while slimmer feet might not have as many. After listening to a couple of reviewers about the laces i swapped the laces with a pair of mizuno laces and did get some pain in the upper part of my foot, so switched back to the original laces. I do feel the laces are somewhat thinner compared to others, but they seem to work fine with my foot shape, as again i haven’t had the qualms many have had with this shoe. I have had issues having to retighten the laces only very occasionally if I don’t make sure the very slim tongue is properly centered, although on the second pair i bought (red) the tongue feels a bit firmer. Although that might be due to less use on the shoe. That being said i think it’s important for viewers to know that as a user of these shoes I’ve run over 900 km in 2 pairs of Adios Pro 3s and haven’t had any of the BIG problems and think its an excellent shoe if your foot shape and/or stride allow you to not have those problems. Its unfortunate you had such a hard time with the upper, while ive had no problems whatsoever. I write note this because if i had seen this review before buying my first pair I wouldn't have bought it and would have really missed out on a GREAT shoe. BTW i also have the takumi zen and agree the fit is great on that shoe also.

@SagasuRunning Год назад

I think I agree with you on narrow feet having less issues with the AP3 upper. I rarely have upper issues with shoes, my foot is fairly “normal” (not wide or narrow)… but this shoe really got me. I have a friend who is coach and has access to elite level runners. He also commented to me that many Adidas elites have had problems with blistering and rubbing in the AP3, most just dealing with it due either having to run in the shoe due to contracts or because the shoe, overall is very good. The upper on the Adios 8 is a sign of things to come for the AP4 I hope. Because they midsole on the AP3 is outstanding!

@gudboyngdisyerto 11 месяцев назад

do you have same size with takumi sen?

@SagasuRunning 11 месяцев назад

@@gudboyngdisyerto Yes.. The foot fit is better in the Adios Pro 3 for me. The last they use to the shoe is much more natural than the long and narrow one used for the Takumi Sen 8/9.

@fwhoch 11 месяцев назад

Yes, the same size Takumi, they do feel narrower but no complaints for me.@@gudboyngdisyerto

@DavidB-zi3lg 9 месяцев назад

I have the Pro 3 plus 2E wide feet and do not recognize the critique of the upper at all. But it is a very narrow shoe especially across the arch of the foot (as are all the Adizero shoes), so the inside of my arches get sore towards the end of a race. But the same goes for all other brands of racing shoes. That being said, I much prefer the feel of my Adios Pro 1 to the Pro 3.

@yuree08 5 месяцев назад

is the turnover with this shoe later or early?

@SagasuRunning 5 месяцев назад

Fairly late, compared to a Vaporlfy or Evo 1. It has a much more rolling feel.

@yuree08 5 месяцев назад

@@SagasuRunning thanks

@m.ch4rmaland3r10 Год назад

This video reminds me of tekumi sen8. The upper is annoying to get it right. plus the tongue is thin and gives no comfort. I have to say the Nike upper and zoomx is pretty good. I do like the firmness of the lightstrike pro/continental rubber but I feel most of the adidas upper is rubbish with the exception of strung.

@SagasuRunning Год назад

Ya… Adidas uppers have never been great… but this one is especially bad.

@pavankumarreddy7265 Месяц назад

Sir is this shoe good for 5K racing ?

@SagasuRunning Месяц назад

It’s not the fastest option out there but will do just fine, yes…

@mikeommanney Год назад

I don’t mind the upper but the rubber has worn down on the heels after 100 miles & they are now become uncomfortable. Sore ankles after few miles. For the price I would be expecting at least 300 miles.

@SagasuRunning Год назад

I don’t think getting only 100 miles out of a top end race shoe is a problem. It’s a race shoe, not a trainer. That being said I’ve seen other reviewers, they are heel strikers, with hundreds of miles on the AP3. Lightstrike Pro and Continental rubber are about as durable as it gets. Though yes, extreme wear will change the way the shoe runs and stress different part of the body. Sorry to hear yours are doing that.

@macoyupadoodle Год назад

Yes, the upper is dismal, though i do like how it runs.

@SagasuRunning Год назад

Agree fully.

@Al-Khalifa Год назад

agree, the material especially the eyelets area really awful, and it cut my big toe skin.

@SagasuRunning Год назад

It really is a “what were they thinking” level of bad design all around.

@markoljustina Год назад

Actually, maybe if I now run in VF they would not be better for me after AP3; I don’t have favorite shoe, always try something new and my taste/opinion are changing

@SagasuRunning Год назад

It is good to mix it up. I do alternate between the VF3 and the AP3, keeps them both feeling fresh for me.

@chakalaka3960 9 месяцев назад

Bought this shoe 7 months ago, only racked up 90km in them since - there is literally nothing about it I like. Super unstable, terrible upper and laces, and everywhere from the knee downwards hurts within a couple of km. Despicable. I picked a pair of clapped out Kayanos to run my first HM over these. They're the only shoes I've ever worn that made me feel like my feet were different sizes. I don't understand how anybody can run in these. They even seem to get dirty faster than other shoes. They aren't even fast - I've run a 10k 45 seconds faster in a pair of Nimbus 25s. Picture yourself running on polystyrene blocks with a cheap, rough, stiff and hard sack glued on top of it. That would be an upgrade over this shoe.

@SagasuRunning 9 месяцев назад

This shoe is definitely not for everyone and you are right, you always feel like you are up ontop of a platform in them. I love the midsole for tempo training, not racing. The upper is a mess, completely. Adidas uppers are improving and hopefully the Evo 1 upper, the softer lighter material, is a sign of things to come from adidas.

@TheBigFella32 2 месяца назад

Has anyone run a marathon in these? What are they like??

@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад

This may be the most successful marathon racer in the past two years. Many people have raced marathons in it. If you can get the upper sorted on your foot the midsole is second to none.

@AGC828 Год назад

What gets me (non "runner) are the mesh uppers on "race shoes". while I understand the thinking....for max breathability....i think it makes these shoes look and probably feel cheap. Couldn't be too comfortable...a "plasticy see-through mesh"material. I mean if you can find knit uppers that are very breathable in trainers...why not put them on "race shoes"?? Companies culd design a "race shoe" with a "beathable upper" and just put larger holes in the knit... aroudnd th toe area with an rear- "vent"....as some one has done laready...forget who that was with which shoe... intake from the front exhuast out the heel...heh...

@SagasuRunning Год назад

(As a runner) I will say Adidas Celemesh used on this shoe is a fantastic material for a high end race shoe. The upper issue here have to do with the design and engineering, not materials. This material is ultra light weight and allows for more midsole or outsole, stuff needed for a marathon shoe. Also race shoes are very different than trainers in what the expectation is for for. There is something called a “race fit” that most race shoes have, especially Adidas. This means a very secure and conforming (to the foot) upper that has no flex and locks the foot to the shoe. While this shoe isn’t the classic race fit it still fits like a race shoe. Additionally these ultra light weight mesh materials shed water and moisture quickly, not adding weight to the shoe. Form follows function here and we are actually in an eta of running shoes where performance beats cosmetics, especially with race shoes.

@anders8493 2 месяца назад

I returned my pair of adios pro 3’s. they felt like a great shoe to run in but they rub so badly under my ankle on the outside of my foot. If you’re like me and that little bone protrudes from your foot at all under your ankle…. Avoid these shoes. Super disappointed, I was so excited when I got these

@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад

Given how unpadded and sharp the heel collar is on this I can see that being a massive issue.

@joyaclub Год назад

The rocker is too severe for a slow runner like me.

@SagasuRunning Год назад

It does have an extreme toe spring for sure… and if you aren’t used to it it can be a problem.

@mfcc1084 Месяц назад

The Adios Pro 3 is one of those shoes that I really tried hard to hate but I couldn't. Yeah sure the upper could be called horrid but man, everything else in this shoe works absolutely well for me. Yes I am a Nike guy and it was hard for me to accept that this shoe is truly amazing.

@SagasuRunning Месяц назад

I feel 100% the same way. I’ve gotten to a sort of peace with the upper…. But that midsole is just so very good…

@James.chalmers Год назад

It’s just the same as any other Addias upper really 😂😂

@SagasuRunning Год назад

Adidas does have some rough uppers at times… but when they get it right they really get it right!

@manuelcaraballo2711 7 месяцев назад

I broke the carbon fiber rods after less than a 100 miles

@SagasuRunning 7 месяцев назад

They can be delicate. It’s a drawback of the design.

@damjankrajnc7315 10 месяцев назад

thicker and softer laces...and the problem is solved

@SagasuRunning 10 месяцев назад

Yes, the laces also suck… which is a theme on all current Adidas shoes. But it definitely won’t solve the design problem here.

@ganchinho Год назад

come one man, it's not that bad

@SagasuRunning Год назад

The upper is that bad, possibly one of the worst I’ve ever run in. Made all the worst by how good the shoe is overall. I really hope they fix the upper in the AP4.

@ganchinho Год назад

@@SagasuRunning they will use the strung option. I have the AP3 and I have no problem with the upper. It's light and with some adjustments of the laces it works as well as my vaporflys....but I accept and understand your arguments.

@SagasuRunning Год назад

@@ganchinho I do think we will see a string upper on a AP4… but I also think we will get a celermesh one first. A strung option will come in later release/pack.

@ericwj7 11 месяцев назад

I ran a Marathon in the pro 2 without issues, these 2 eyelets have cut my small toes in a 8m run. So disappointing as I couldn’t imagine what a race pace and Marathon distance would do…

@SagasuRunning 11 месяцев назад

@ericwj7 The design choice Adidas made on the AP3 makes no sense to me, at all.

@litespeed65 10 месяцев назад

IYO of course- everyone’s foot is different🙄

@SagasuRunning 10 месяцев назад

Of course. However in this case, this is a well documented issue that many runners, including Adidas elites, have been complaining about. Thet being said. If you are one of the runners who don’t have issues with the upper… you are lucky. I can’t wait for the next version of this shoe to resolve this mess!

@henryharmon5935 4 месяца назад

You start by saying what a good shoe it is and then launch into how bad the upper is.WTF. Just say that the Vaporfly is way ahead of this shoe. Because it is.

@SagasuRunning 4 месяца назад

What’s so frustrating about this shoe is the midsole and outsole are spectacular. So it’s a shoe I love/hate. I have actually been running in it a bit recently and have rekindle my love for it… but the upper is SO bad…. Like SOOOO bad. But yes, ultimately the Vaporfly 3 is the better shoe here. It’s also a full generation ahead of this one. Adidas has some special things in store for this year with the AP4 and Evo C.

@DonMuhammad-dk3ms Год назад

nike wishes it made a shoe this good. great detail but he wrong this shoe is amazing and nike has nothing comparable

@SagasuRunning Год назад

This shoe is outstanding. But the upper is a mess and it’s not as good (for me) as the Nike Vaporfly 3.

@troytheman2794 6 месяцев назад

Do you think putting a molebandaid on your toe will help?

@SagasuRunning 6 месяцев назад

Tried that…also tried multiple taping taping and sock combos. But the problem is a massive design flaw in the design of the shoe. I shouldn’t HAVE to develop work around to fix that.

@litespeed65 9 месяцев назад

Everyone’s foot is very different…

@SagasuRunning 9 месяцев назад

Very much. But this shoe has caused endless headaches for many MANY runners.

@mattpeters6224 8 месяцев назад

It’s never the shoe. It’s always the runner.

@SagasuRunning 8 месяцев назад

With this shoe…. It’s definitely the shoe. Countless runners, at all levels, have had to deal with destroyed feet due to this upper.

@mattpeters6224 8 месяцев назад

@@SagasuRunning Referring to your mention of results attributed to the shoe not the many problems associated with the shoe. I have an easy fix for all of the problems with the upper. 1. Don’t buy it. Insist with your dollars that adidas does better. 2. Saucony Endorphin Pro 3.

@SagasuRunning 8 месяцев назад

@@mattpeters6224 I mean… sure… but the point of the video was to warn people on the shoe so maybe they can do as you said. Beyond that, I’m not a Saucony fan so I’ll pass on that… definitely use my dollars as a vote there.

@mattpeters6224 8 месяцев назад

@@SagasuRunning Yes sir the point of the video was obvious. It was very well articulated. I didn’t suggest Saucony in General, I was specific about the choice. If you don’t like the Endorphin Pro 3 you are possibly the only person on earth. Would love to see you articulate why. Or have you even tried the shoe? I’m guessing not.

@SagasuRunning 8 месяцев назад

@@mattpeters6224 I ran in the original model and didn’t think much of it. I may cover the next model in 2024… because the series does seem to be the feeling of the running world.