Adressing the Enzo Fernández and the racist chant situation... 

What Argentinians think is irrelevant. The French players consider it offensive and racist and they shouldn't have to tolerate ignorance in this day and age. The players all play in Europe anyway. They should know better.

@@adtastic1533 Enzo is a 23 years old football player and grew up in a shanty town in Argentina, he is not a PhD in racial studies graduated from Oxford. He made a comment he didn´t mean, and he apologised for it. There is not much more to it. By your arguement, you could also argue that the rest of the world is ignorant for not understanding the nature of football songs in Argentina, where the song was sung in the first place. Just beacuse you don´t understand the context, it doesn´t mean something its wrong. Again, Enzo already apologised and will probably face fine, so there isn´t much more to it.

@@laraboneta1 Well, Enzo will be getting a significant suspension but will ultimately be fine. But it's not really the responsibility of black players, or the rest of the world for that matter, to understand Argentinian culture. The responsibility is on players and fans, from whatever country, to not say racist things. Like I said, all these players live in Europe. They get paid big money from European clubs. They have to understand how these things are perceived. Or else it will reflect badly on them and their country.

@@adtastic1533 I'll be surprised if Enzo he suspended more than two matches, since Chelsea paid 107 million pounds for him and I'm sure they will want him playing asap. Although you're right, as he should've been more careful with what he posted, since he is a public person and all, maybe the aggravated players should have made an effort to not take the song at face value and try to understand the context in which it was being sung before taking shots at Enzo and everyone involved.

Que mala tu perspectiva, Enzo quemó a sus compañeros franceses de manera pública. Es justo que le llamen la atención de manera pública. Si uno no es capaz de aceptar las consecuencias de sus acciones, no tome esas decisiones.

So if African teams were full of white players native Africans would never mention it? You’re a complete hypocrite. As usual one rule for ‘white’ people and another rule for everyone else to be racist to white people

Using that logic it’s racist to have non native players over native players…. If white players replaced African players you’d call them colonisers and racists… so have that same energy when ur people do it to European countries

Facts

Actually, he is Spanish. He has citizenship and lived most of his life there. He chose to play for Argentina, but he could have easily played for Spain.

@@shonehi546tim9 No, messi is argentinian, he was born in argentina. Only he has spanish citizen lad.

The name Maradona originates from Italy

@@darrenfearon4288 Thats true but doesn’t disprove he’s mixed. My name is French but I’m Mixed too. Names are not genetics. They give clues tho!

He talked about Guarani heritage but I never heard him talk about any African heritage.

@@darrenfearon4288 "maradona" is an spanish surname from galicia, it s not italian. and yes, maradona was of mixed race, european, mostly spanish, adn native american. maybe some little african heritage too. both his parents were from north argentina, corrientes province very near of paraguay. in the north of argentina being of mixed race heritage is more usual than in buenos aires.

@@shonehi546tim9 yeah, it’s small as it was about three generations from his birth. Which is common from I read of his generation. You can do further research on the matter.

Many of them were Italians and Germans fleeing after losing WW2.

There's a significant minority of indigenous Argentineans and like 40% of argentines are mixed with indigenous blood, some very noticeable, others look pretty White but have cousins, brothers with darker skin. Tevez, Agüero, romero, chiquito romero, Riquelme, paredes, Maradona, housseman, Lautaro Martínez, just to name a few have Brown skin and indigenous amcestry to a higher or Lower degree. Black argentines are less but in the 66 world cup and 78 world cup we had two black players. A goalkeeper in 78 and 66 i don't remember the position. Basically black people here are like asians, a very small minority. Its the same In most neighboring countries except Uruguay and Brazil (Paraguay, bolivia, chile have similar percentages of afrodescendant people) it was simply because the economy of our country during the colonial period didnt need that much slaves, and mostly indigenous, or mixed people worked on the fields in generally speaking not heavy labor (mostly taking care of cows, or not so labor intensive crop) also slave owners probably moved to Brazil or Uruguay countries that kept legislation that favored slavery for longer. Also the population of our country was like 30% black in some provinces but at the Time a Lot of the country was just populated by indigenous people with no contact with civilization, and before european inmigration the country total population was very small for the size. This kid Is incorrect that most indigenous people were erradiacted he simply needs to visit other provinces or realize most Brown people are mixed with indigenous not black (some may have some african descend), but there were genocides against certain indigenous populations who were indeed erradicated, just not indigenous as like phenotypically or genetically indigenous people because many survive to this day. Personally im a Brown skinned guy, in buenos aires like 30 or 40% of people look like me and like 5% look straight out of bolivia, like a 100% indigenous. Some of us have indigenous ancestry from people native to argentina (i would say a majority of Brown mixed looking people) and some from other countries of the region (i would say in buenos aires most descend from bolivians Perúvians or northern provinces of argentina).

@@masterchief-yj7yw so that's an excuse to sing racist chant? I don't think so

There's chants against jews for a football team of mostly jew fan base, and then the jewish team says racist things against their rival who Is mostly of indigenous background. Even the bolivian looking guys from Chacarita carried nazi flags some times when many looked like Brown Indians. Basically a Lot of argentines are ignorant and not politically correct and say racist stuff even to eachother, but i would say a Lot of people who say racist stuff maybe are a little racist but not to a point of hate or Lets say im not gonna have jew fríends or bolivia fríends or black fríends. So yeah, saying racist stuff for a long Time was More normalized than most countries, even tho not necessarily the people who Said it are as racist as racist from other More politically correct country where if you say something like that you are like a kkk member, here Is just to troll or make mad the fans of the rival club. For example Is kinda like insulting somebody calling an fgt and being cool with gay people. Its not to justify or say the national team players are not racist or xenophobic, likely they are a little bit, but mainly insensitive and just sing stuff to talk crap about their rivals because honestly in argentina it was the norm to say non politically correct stuff specially in football stadiums.

​@@Monkey.D.Shinchanits not an excuse, just bringing More context because i sometimes feel like foreigners think we are blonde nazi germany descendants who believe blacks are dumber or inferior and that Isnt the reality of almost anybody living here and not even of racist Argentine people

maybe

@@shanks2058 Bro the only reason why they mention France is bc they lost against us. it has NOTHING to do w country of origin of color of skin. It’s referring to a soccer game won. You’re trying to make it about race saying non white French men lmao

Agree. Whoever don’t see racism in the songs are just plain racist. They should celebrate France has a diverse team instead of making fun of it.

@@greenmachateaWhenever you make fun of another team that has black people in it against you’re automatically racist? Right?

When you specifically regurgitate the racist bs the most far right politicians of those countries use, in a chant, that is racist. That "chant" is what Marine le Pen shouts as well, albeit in a different language. What an utterly shameless idiot larping as Church of Truth ​@@-TheChurchOfTruth-

Así que explícame cuál es la "verdadera historia" de Argentina

@@rawrostar es exactamente lo que dijo el chabon hermano. Teníamos negro en número amplio, inmigracion masiva los supera en número y se da lo que se llama blanqueamiento porque en efecto eran discriminados

@@fp-ko7vg what history man? OK illuminate me on how you know and from when you learned

Spot on. To claim that this is the only instance and the rest of their lives are spotless is hilarious.

No it’s only this instance, you don’t know them so you cannot judge them. This mentality is a product of social media where people judge your entire life based on 10 seconds and then use that to judge an entire ethnic group or another group that you belong to based on that. You need to grow up and stop trying to be woke for attention

@@rawrostar They are not reading the lyrics, they know it because it's obvious is not the first time they sing it. And who is judging an entire ehtnic group based on Enzo? You need to grow up and stop doing apologia for homophobia and racism.

i think you are just soft

More than likely hating on mbappe joining rm. Argentinians are generally racist, especially the players. This isn't an isolated event, this is just the first time there's got caught. Son Mala gente, agrandados y maleducados, eso no va a cambiar jamas.

Griezmann is german

Because Hernandez and Griezmann look and act French

@@sssuupperrenanosocialista7elre he was born in france to a father of german ancestry.... His mum was portuguese not spanish is it?

Bait used to be believable ​@@rawrostar

@@rawrostarYour comment though coming from a good place implies that the black players don’t act french… I suppose you haven’t been in france because they ALL act French, there is not one way of acting in any country for that matter.

The goat HH is here

Wow you even got HH in your comment section Renk

Saw youre vid on this topic

Agreed very well put.

The 🐐 HH showed up

It's because they are jealous of talented Real Madrid player Eduardo Camavinga which was born in Angola. He arrived in France as a child 2 years old, was raised in France he is French. His parents are not even from Angola they are from Congo.

​@FierDetrefnorancais1 lol, it's because bola and Angola sound better than the names of other countries.

they are specifically targetting Camavinga

@@l.r8206 Racist!

and everywhere else! or you think there is no racism in the USA or Europe? Ask African immigrants how they live in France /England/Spain. Don't be a F00L!!

Like that everywhere, look at England right now

@@DaGabbaGangsta Exactly

@erniehernandez7162 I'm Scottish bro, and to me England is one of the most racist countries there is, never mind Argentina or anywhere else !

son racistas, porque la mayoría si le preguntas te dicen orgullosamente que sus abuelos son europeos pero nunca te dicen que parte de sus antepasados son de peru, paraguay o del norte

Y como tratan los bolivianos a los argentinos en su país???

Grmdg, lo que decís no es cierto. Escuche muchas ve des decir a argentinos su orgullo por ser de origen de otros países sudamericanos. A ver si los descendientes de europeos no pueden sentirse orgullosos de sus raices. Que sinsentido es este?

Por que tendríamos que pedir perdón por decir la verdad? Este tema muestra el colonialismo francés como sumió a la pobre muchos paises. Adiviná : En que país ponian a los negr0s en jaulas?

Hernandez has to be the most spaninsh name of all time i guess white people cant be immigrants

You are so ignorant because many Spanish people have African blood too. Many whites do origins tests and they found they have percentage of black too.

On the other hand, i'am sad by the nonsense of the world accusing Enzo of being racist when the Africans themselves are saying that the song is not racist and that they think that : that the French is made up of africans.

Well said!

Very informative video from a smart young gentleman! I have never ever fancied Argentina but your explanation has helped me to understand your country (even) more.

It’s because Mbappe made comments diminishing the competition level of Copa America vs the Euro twice, back in 2022 and again earlier this month, this song was aimed at him since he started those comments two years ago. Plus, they received the chants they made about Messi and his legs condition, and this was their response. There is a lot in the picture no one is covering conveniently…

​@@acfan8253Stop it your taking Mbappe's words out of context. Are you that hurt you think providing a sporting critique justifies racial insults?

@@acfan8253mbappe is right. The Euro is way better than Copa. I am not Brazilian but I am a Brazil fan and honestly the Euros is way better tournament. You have a lot more quality teams. So Mbappe is correct and the Argentinians know it and that’s why they react this way because it stings.

@@acfan8253you really compared euro to Copa America? Lmao. Also he was comparing teams and not players races and nationalities

I'm glad that you're not taking this lightly either. Sometimes, we are too soft with blatant wickedness. The only way some people learn is by consequences.

Why don't you do something about how blacks are treated in France and England instead of being offended by a football song? Check the French players discriminating Asians or how the French has just kicked out black immigrants from the streets of Paris for the Olympics because "they make visual contamination". Don't be a hyp0crite.

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It's not random, but a beef against Mbappe. When Mbappe started criticizing football in South America in 2021 people took it really bad here. And then again, last week he said the Euro is harder than the World Cup. Those kinds of comments are perceived as European supremacist thought, especially if you take into account the competitiveness and diversity of South American football. Copa Libertadores and the South American World Cup qualifiers are among the fiercest football competitions worldwide, so we don't like to be looked down on. In this light, some fans in Argentina created a sufficiently offensive song to poke the so-called European superiority of the French squad and it became a massive hit.

@@emilianoestevarena5071 So a 2021 beef with Mbappe justifies racist chants about ALL the other black French players in 2024 at the Copa America??

@@sergeayissi939 Mbappe is racist, and you don't even realize it. How do you think a South American feels if an European dismisses our hard work in football in open TV with airs of superiority and everyone claps him? His statements on the World Cup and Conmebol are false and blatantly discriminatory. In no way is Europe superior to the rest of the world.

@@emilianoestevarena5071 Mbappe is not racist as South America is not just one race! European football won 4 straight world cups and that is a fact. European Cup is harder than Copa America it's a fact! I prefer to play Canada, Colombia, Panama and Peru. It's easier than playing Portugal, Spain, Germany, France. How is that racist?

@@sergeayissi939 Now you are being racist like Mbappe. South America is one as far as I know in terms of football, and it shows in its culture. I'll grant that some teams are easier to beat but you are downplaying our hierarchy in football, which has proven to win an aggregate of 13 world cups throughout history. Mbappe may be the next greatest player in the world. But for more than 50 years, this title has belonged to us South Americans. You Europeans have to humble yourselves and give credit where it's due. I yet have to see France playing in the conditions we play in South America. I don't think they'll dominate that easily. Europe isn't better than anything in the world, much less in football. Your "Europe is better" mentality is the source of racism worldwide, keep it in check.

No he doesn't owe anyone and explanation his team mate needs to grow up.

@@tobiisiba1641 how does it feel to be a nazi coward?

@@tobiisiba1641He needs to grow up or his team mates? You ruin the sport. White dude 😢😢

@@tobiisiba1641grow up? It was blatant offence towards them

​@@tobiisiba1641Notice people cry about Argentina having no black players 🤣 but they say nothing about Frances team lacking white indigenous players? They can all go screw themselves, these hypocrites LOL

wrong, you people cant accept the idea that Argentina did well without having black players and starting throwing hate when they won

The Argentina players did leave the other French players alone: the White French players!

@@sergeayissi939 I was talking about leaving alone the other black French players, and that's the biggest mistake. Had they did that and focused only on MBappe, I don't think this would have escalated.

@@KeitelDOG White players are also part of the French team. If the beef was about Europe against South America. But it is NOT! They are making it racial thing because that is what it's all about! People who want to defend Argentina will say it was about Mbappe beef... But this is just textbook RACISM!

How? When he was at home with his family. That would be pretty Hard.

@@okocha7914 he still have time to say stop even know. How about him coming out and say no to racist

maybe he doesn't say anything because he doesn't think it's racist and he doesn't have a white complex , apologizing for being white that like the guy in the video does.

Y esa prensa es justamente es la que acusa de racistas a jugadres argentinos

and that isnt racist.

Nadie dijo que lo tenga, solo tengo una opinión personal

@@user-rw1if1ro2o thanks for the kind words, could you tell me in which other video you saw me in?

@@renktalksball a YT channel called GreenTurf.

Hola!!! Por fin encuentro una persona sensata entre los comentarios. La canción no es racista, sólo bromea acerca de que la selección francesa está compuesta en su mayoría de jugadores de origen africano, es sólo una broma y no denigran a nadie por su raza. Es como lo sospechas tu porque son negros que se indignó todo el mundo. Los mismos africanos dicen que la canción no es racista y que ellos piensan lo mismo, que los jugadores son africanos Lo que yo creo es que mucha gente tienen mucho deseo de hacerse ver como moralmente superior acusando a otros de racistas y llamando a todos los integrantes de un pais racistas con todo descaro no dándose cuenta de lo insultante y difamatorios que es. Bueno al parecer en Asia hay gente pensante como tu. Me da esperanza.

The West/Europe views the rest of the world from their prism. They judge anyone who don't conform to their set of rules and mindset. Here is an example. My friends and I ride on motorcycle to the hills on weekends. We take pictures. On one photo my friend sat on the viewpoint railing and I stood in front of him. He rested his hands on my shoulders. We took group photos of us friends standing shoulder to shoulder. My friend emigrated to US. His American fiancé was so nervous that other Americans would call my friend a homo/gay. She deleted all his motorcycle trip pictures! She even got anxiety when he would call home to talk to us. In our country we don't even think in such manner.

NOT when it comes to International Events on the World Stage. This attitude is EXACTLY why this shit continues. Becuase people don't take it seriously, so Football continues to have Racists in the sport and among its fans. When they start banning, fining and suspending these people then it will stop. Not when people keep looking the other way. Football has tolerated this garbage for too long. Stop excusing it

Best comment here.

I didnt know racism and banter were the same thing

​@@tofussss we are slowly changing and become More similar to the rest of the world. But some decades ago some Atlanta fans (a Lot jewish) would sing racist and xenophobic chants against Chacarita fans (mostly Brown and poor, many descending from inmigrants from neighboring countries) and the Chacarita fans would say horrible antisemitic things. And it was just banter, and outside the field (even if a Lot would probably deep down actually be racist to a Lower or higher degree) most would get along with jews, or bolivians and paraguayans. Basically yeah racism sometimes in Argentina was kinda accepted as just banter, but we slowly are becoming More politically correct, hopefully poverty lessens so we get more educated as a society.

@@masterchief-yj7yw i dont think its about being 'politically correct', I just think its about getting rid of division between people. There's racial humour and then there's racist humour, and sadly some people think they're both the same and get upset when you call it out

Im not defending them but I think you got a wrong idea of where the German and Italian ancestry comes from. Players will 100% mention it if they're aware of it. Like messi wouldn't doubt on tell you his family is Italian or macallister that his family is Irish.

​@@Elmex08 He was refering to those who fly italy and Germany After WW2 for obvious reasons. Not sure if the players will openly talk about having a nazi or fachist granfather....

@@meripyare I know. They most likely don't that's the thing. The amount of nazi and Italian fascist refugees was too little.to have an influence and most of the immigration got to argentina decades before the war

Probably not, would be a fair response

Argentina society is a sick anti-Black racist country. Argentina slaughtered all it Black citizens, soon after it gained independent from Spain, in other to keep Argentina white. White Argentinians also stole the land of Argentina, off the Native Indians and murdered them as well. All the white people in Argentina are from Europe and they are not indigenous to Argentina. A majority of Nazis officials and soldiers from Adolf Hitler German Reich, fled to Argentina, after Nazis Germany was defeated, because they knew of Argentina's crimes of Holocaust against Black Argentinians and how they would be welcomed in Argentina and they were right. Enzo Fernandez represserbt the anti-Black racist ideology of a majority of White Argentinians. Chelsea had a reputation as an anti-Black racist club,. So if Chelsea does not put this Enzo Fernandez anti-Black racist on the transfer list, the world will see Chelsea for whom they are.

Do you even live in BsAs? It doesn't seem like it, racism is not a problem here, clasism very much is. The fact that racism isn't a problem means that people aren't as easily triggered by racism as the actually racist countries such as France, hence why they are not afraid of using it as a weapon when necessary. I remember Suarez was once accused of racism because he used a slur to defend himself from a guy that discriminated him for being Uruguayan, this is the same thing, Europeans wanting to apply European logic to everything and having world class double standards. Don't get me wrong, what enzo did was bad, this isn't a good look, but saying Argentina is racist because of this is utter nonsense and you don't know what you are taking about.

@@marcossidoruk8033 We live in capitalism so obviously there is a class struggle, workers vs capitalists. But if you are a person of color, you are more oppressed. If you are a person of color and a women, you're more oppressed. It's called intersectionality. How can you say that there is no racism in Argentina!? Paraguayan and Bolivian are used as an insult. Have you heard about the term "cabecita negra"? There is a long history of racism in Argentina. Do you even live there?

@@sebastianbardon391 Those terms are Xenophobic and Classist, not racist. You not being able to tell that speaks volumes of your capacity for critical thought.

@@sebastianbardon391 Those terms are Xenophobic and Classist, not racist. You not being able to tell that speaks volumes of your capacity for critical thought. Besides, even Xenophobia in the modern day Argentina is very rare, much, much more rare than the US for example. You seem to be critically online, you never talked seriously to actual immigrants, thats for sure.

Same here