ADV NEWS MAY 2024 | KTM 390 ENDURO & 1390 RALLY | CFMOTO 800MT-X | TRIUMPH SCRAMBLER 400X 

Keep me posted on your long term thoughts 👍

Picked mine up today in West Oz. Proper ride tomorrow now that I have adjusted the basic set up for me. Everything is very tight still as no kms on it!!

@@chroniclesofsolid definitely will do. I just clicked over 2000km and I'm still blown away with it every time I ride it. Me, my mate (he has one too) and other real life owners here have found the suspension a bit firm despite what RU-vid launch videos said. May be the ones in the Philippines had different spring rates for lighter riders. For context i'm 95kg, 6'1. My mate is 110kg and 6'7. We have come from modified ktm 690's and T7s

@@wowfish-ob3ew congrats man, you'll love it. I thrashed mine straight from the dealership floor as I like to hard run in mine so wasn't tight for long 😂 Be interested to see if you also found the suspension a wee bit firm

@@willyd-adv Yes, especially on the back end. Haven't really had enough time to feel what the front was like as slow ride home in traffic and road works. But back did feel harder and didn't really move or bounce like I do on my enduro. Could be a use thing and time. I did notice that there didn't look like much thread on the rear spring preload either to back off or tighten. But I didn't have enough light ito see so can't exactly confirm that without a good look with decent lighting. Just seemed a bit strange at the time. The few aussie reviews I saw at the launch said the front was a bit soft so maybe they stiffened them up at the shop or still too new and need some wearing in.

And then maybe a Norden 401 to top it off. ❤❤

It's not quite big enough for dirt , a 1500 might work and 30 grand base price should have them flying off the cliffs .

Horses for courses. A largely road biased bike that can manage easy trails whilst blasting 2 up over big distances ticks more boxes for more people than a highly strung, enduro based bike. I'm lucky enough to have a Tiger 900 Rally Pro and a gorgeous adventurised FE 501. Both bikes are compromises but acceptable. The 501 has surprisingly good road manners with balanced wheels and a rally raid type fairing but is fantastic off road. The Tiger on knobblies is surprisingly competent off road and a delight on road.

@@TheIdlesurfer I still don't get it. When the Z1000 Kawasaki came out back in 77 "Two Wheels" had the headline on the cover "WHO'LL RIDE THE MEAN MOTHER?". It had a claimed 83hp, and actually made about 72 at the rear wheel. Yet today I see people on the V-Strom forum asking if the 650 has enough power to carry a pillion, a bike with the same horse power as the Z1000 and 40 kg lighter. I've owned a CBR1000, and I reckon in the 5 years I had it I accumulated less than one minute of near redline, full throttle riding (excluding racetrack time). It's not like I hung at the back of the pack on it. I wore out a set of knee sliders on the road (not on the track, on the road), and a rear tyre sometimes only lasted the weekend. The thing would lay a fat black stripe out of turn 2 at eastern creek on half throttle and that's fast enough that you're looking at jail if you did it on the road. I sound like a boring old fart, but seriously, why would you carry around all that extra weight for years that you might use for a few seconds every month?

@@gasdive funnily enough, I had the same thought. I had a 1290 SA. 165 bhp claimed. I never used about 70 of those ponies. My 900 Tiger is sub 100 ponies. It is as fast and as powerful as I'm ever going to need on the road. My talent and reaction time will never trouble the upper limits of my 888cc middle weight. I'm guessing we're similar age. We may be old farts but with grey hair comes the wisdom of not falling for the "you need more power" schtick. I bounced the big Katoom off the rev limiter in 3rd, maybe 4th and I needed more power like a fish needs a bicycle. Btw, how did bikes bigger than 750 become middleweights? When I started riding, 750s were big bikes, litre plus bikes were rare and I was happy tear arsing around on a 350 YPVS.

@@TheIdlesurfer haha! I got myself into plenty of trouble, had plenty of fun and went plenty fast enough on an RD350LC!

Can you share where you heard his words?

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Jokes on you. I'll have my triumph 1/2 ton rocket rally to help me get back and forth in the kitchen before you get that Ktm.

BMW R 2800 GS RR Dakar coming soon.

still waiting for the 200hp middleweight daily commuter that can handle the trails too

still waiting for the 200hp middleweight daily commuter that can handle the trails too

Well it's just a dressed up 390 Duke, including the top heavy 3.9 gal tank.

I hope it's not the same weight at the current 390 ... I fear it will just be a different body style, wheels, fenders ... blah, blah, blah ... I get that they need to not overlap the EXEC-F stuff, but maybe 310 lbs??? maybe ???

Nothing like a modded dual sport that fits like a glove

I’ll take a new DR with fuel injection,ABS, and cruise control; and absolutely nothing else. Thats about the only thing I’d trade my current DR for. Won’t happen, but that’s what I want.

@Joe-fi4hv totally understand that. EFI would be nice. For cruise control, those old school throttle lock cruise devices actually work. They look sketchy, but if you set them up properly, they are nice to have.

No matter what new bikes I may purchase, my DR650 will never be sold.

@@Joe-fi4hv Why ABS? Just useless weight!

I think that’s a solid theory. But it also speaks to the common disconnect between business leaders and their actual customers. If Honda sold their team Dakar bikes for $10k only “adventure” riders would turn their nose up at it. The rest of us would be scrambling to grab one. What’s more ADV than Dakar???

@@Joe-fi4hv do you think Kove will be on the start line for the next Dakar? I hope so but I my gut feeling is they won't. They had such a good buzz around their rally bike but that seems to have evaporated now.

Do you not mean the 390 for you and the 1390 for your wife?

@@thepub245 I mean a 390 for me and a 1390 for me since I’m paying for both.

Thanks David. I try to not just regurgitate the news but think through what the potential effects could be for each bike. Not everyone appreciates it but good to know some do👍

My thoughts as well. It looks smaller, like the 890

It’s a V-twin though

Depends how competitive the price will be but I think it will get some attention for sure. Agreed on the test ride front. So many bikes on paper I thought I would love but when I got a leg over disappointed or the opposite where I loved it and was prejudice before I rode it.

Yamaha and kawasaki both released bigger responses. That Yamaha 1900 stratoliner was a glorious bike. Plan on getting one one day. I had the roadstar XV1600 for about a decade. Loved it even more than my goldwing. Comfortable, smooth, reliable, and all-around magnificent.

Thoughts Bill?

@@chroniclesofsolid It was a display model, no lights or turn signals. Looked like good build quality.

It won't be lighter, there is no way. It's selling points will be price and A2 license compatibility in EU, where you can't legally ride anything over 35 kW / 47 HP before 24 yo.

@@patrik9666 how do you think ktm husky design its selling low-key fe450exc 35 kW 47 bhp that have significantly more grunt ´n´ less weight for a2 riders that transform these into hooligans supermotos

Yes, 19/17 with 50/50 tires would be my sweetish spot if Jap.

The agent in UK told me a adv bike will come from the motocross bike in 2025

High end WP stuff is good, but that's not what you you'll find on stock KTM bikes. OEM WP shocks are harsh, divey garbage, because KTM would rather save $50 on a $15 000 bike, and then charge you additional few grand to fix it by installing WP "PRO" components. OEM KYBs are usually pretty decent.

@@patrik9666 Agree 100%

I’m waiting for the 2000R 😎

​@@chroniclesofsolid😂

@@chroniclesofsolid I dont care, I love my KTM 6980RxRZZ V12 turbocharged. It is only 2950 kg and handling like a dream

The real problem is the wanky dealer mechanics

Park next to the BMW R1300GS at Starbucks to flex on the Beemer Boyz.

@@Liberty4Ever 🤣🤣🤣👌

It is hard to know without having the weight of the new 390 Adventure it is based off of. However, given the engine is essentially a known quantity weight wise. Lets just say i would be very surprised if this bike is sub 170kg. I would love to see it but I think its going to be heavier than the 690 Enduro.

An 800x arrived here in Oz three weeks ago for testing/adr. The 450 is almost adr compliant and was having further testing at finke. There is conflicting information about confirmation for a local distributor.

Yes it's a drag isn't it lots of fanfare and bs last year on the interwebs and they just fitted spoked wheels with inner tubes and put the price up

That would be a nice surprise😎

I see this in every comment section. From what is known cam issues no longer exist. I am still to see any engine failures on the 800mt.

@@unclejohn5012 It may be that the newer bikes haven't reached the 16K mile point where they tend to fail. If KTM was an upstanding company, they would do a recall on every 790/890 to fix them. Yes, it would be expensive but so it is the tarnish to their brand that will last indefinitely unless they address it fairly. Even if they lose money, it will be better than their brand suffering forever. Ask Bud Light about what happens to profits when a brand screws up badly.

@@underthedrone2735 Majority of 800MTs in the groups I'm in are well past the 16,000mile mark. There a few past the 40,000mile mark that I have seen as well. It would make no sense for CFMoto or KTM to not fix this issue, however it's not as wide spread as some people make it out to be.

@@unclejohn5012 Good to know! Thanks!

New products will have 20 years development with MSS (China Cia).

Ural is an option 🤷‍♂️

Suzuki 800DE is a fabulous ADV option.

What matters is 800x is slowly getting delivered and people are very happy with them so far

Ya. He went over his reasoning for holding off on presenting the info in the video.

Winnie the pooh strikes again

Not surprised

SHA BI

I’m not sure it’s the end. It’s the third biggest selling company in China supposedly so I guess we’ll see.

Coitus interruptus.

KTM bikes that are over 890cc are still made in Austria. This is why no one's buying the Chinese KTM's or CFMotos.

That's mean u don't know nothing about adventure 😅