Advance Materia Guide For 4 & 5 Star ~ Final Fantasy 7 Ever Crisis 

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A few extra tips : 1- Base substats are important. A materia with 4 substats unlocked at lvl1 has more potential to grow more stats than a materia with 1 or 2 substats unlocked at lvl1 . Still its RNG so you might end up with a worse materia. 2- Esunas and ruinras should be considered "stat sticks" so you need to look for stat % MORE than the stars. A 5 stars esuna is doing almost the exact same thing as a 1 star esuna (it has less healing potency but still it heals almost nothing so it has no value in that regard). Aim for full % and dont use them at 5stars if flat stats "just cause has better rank". 3- Best value for getting exp fodder is to craft ruin materia at guaranteed 2stars (shortest/easiest to craft+gives same exp than any other materia) . I woudn't ever bother using purple mats on those because you'll end up crafting so many of those that you'll most likely have tons of good substats (just make sure you check their stats before using them as fodder). 4- Make sure you are using Chocobo expeditions on places where you get purple mats. 5- A lvl 2,and probably 1 star materia can also upgrade to a 5 stars. Dont be afraid to upgrade to 5/10 everything IF you got the mats (you'll need to farm, but its not that hard/stamina consuming unless you decide to upgrade absolutely everything). Even a flat/bad rank 1 materia can be useful for raw damage (and outdps lesser rank materias) IF you are lucky enough to get a rarity upgrade. 6- Aim for the materias you need the most first, but keep in mind your weapons available. For instance you can beat Shiva Very Hard just with Zack+Glenn's free weapons from Ifrit so dont go nuts crafting fires if thats your only goal. Focus on what you need to beat now or in near future (for instance the next ranking event). If you dont know what to craft/dont need anything right now go for ruin materias for exp. 7- Dont go crazy with the crafting if you are casual/cant play too much daily. This system is RNG upon RNG upon RNG. I've seen people with +3000 total crafted materia and others with less than 200. Depending on how much you are grinding this you might just want to upgrade absolutely everything (1 stars included) just to get a few 4/5 stars. Its a bit of a waste of resources but its way better than just having 0 rank4 materias cause you are waiting for full % stats before upgrading.

THIS is the video i have been waiting for. Thank you kind sir. You are an absolute legend.

Got my 1st 5 star Materia with this guide! Thank you!

I really appreciate this, literally opened up RU-vid to find a video. Great timing since the bonus event is happening.

The thing I really like about your content break downs is anyone can follow along. The first video I saw of yours taught the importance of % vs flat and with that easy to understand explanation I found myself just understanding materia better than before. Now seeing this video it has helped give evidence and an additional resource my own ideas on 2 v 3 v 4 v 5 concepts vs just seeking any rarity % materia. Thanks for making these, hope more people find them!

Great points. Note that the potency bonus on higher stars does not apply if your maim weapondoes more damage (if it's at a sufficient OB level, in which case materias are just stat sticks/sigil breakers)

Great video Octo. I just got a super lucky natural 5-star aero materia, didnt even add items nothing

Thanks for the tips was a massive help 👍👍 I got really lucky and got a 5 star thunder from just 9 blue materials 😊😊

Good stuff, I like technical game info thanks!

Thanks man there were a couple of things I did not know.

My experience is, of course, a small sample size, but I usually use only 2 boosting ingredients, and consequently have gotten more 4 and a few 5 stars that way. Sometimes I use larger numbers of boosters, and the rate increases, but I can't sustain that expenditure. The sheer volume of my crafting has, I believe, allowed me the chance to reap gains that have a low percentage chance to occur. Fast materia like Ruins and Breach and Mana Breach help a lot with volume. Co-op and the Synth bonus are currently well aligned for Mana Breach production, with the max XP bonus for the Wind synth solo encounter, and the Scorpion in co-op giving Earth crystals. Or skip Wind and just go Barrier, or some of each like I do. I craft Cures before I crash out for the night, to use a few Light + Fire + Ice when the extremely long Cure time isn't a problem. Five slots, naturally. I even bought some materia storage.

Important Information for 5 Star Materia! Hey i have an interesting addition to your video that probably hardly anyone knows. I had 3 pieces of 3 star Ruin Blow X and upgraded them because there is a possibility that the rarity will increase as you explain in your video. So first materia nothing, second materia nothing, but third materia... bingo! Rarity upgraded, but here it comes, it has been upgraded to a 5 star!!! A 3 star materia has been upgraded to a 5 star materia! I couldn't believe my eyes, I actually thought that a 3 star materia would then be upgraded to the next rare level, a 4 star materia, at least that's how it's always been for me so far. Well, of course I was incredibly happy and now I/we know that it is possible for a 3 star to become a 5 star, probably very rare, at least I assume but definitely good to know! Because that is of course another reason to upgrade all or as many 3 star materia's as possible. So now the community knows and can make the best of it! Best wishes from Spike (my FF7 Ever Crisis Name)

I got one 5* but it’s all flat stat… RNG is excruciating on this one.

thanks sharing. still valid info till now. i have my quake 4 star too at day5.

Thank you very much for the tips

Just watched your video and it's awesome, I made ruins, and upgraded a 3* to a 5*!!! Gonna keep doing it hopefully get lucky with some elementals

Besides using the enhancement materials I try to remember to do the long ones over night to save on mats for shorter ones. I have two 4* Cura and several good 3* rolls from that without using anything but blues or 2 purple. A lot of this materia is great for stats even if the skill doesn’t work out. I have a Blizzard Blow with 6% MATK that I never would have imagined would end up in builds but it does.

After watching this I didnt know about the ruin to make 3 stars, tried it noticed one of the ruins was going to take 50 mins got excited used a book mark and I got my first 5 star! Lol flat stats but still THEY ARE OUT THERE! Thanks for the video and keep up the good work Octo!

Thanks on the advice on making materias i still havent gotten a 5 star yet.

Danke für die Erklärungen 🎉

4 mins in and this is already one of the best Ever Crisis vids I’ve seen 💘💘💘

Thx for the tutorial!

11:00 if you have a lots of basic materials and crafting elements I wouldn't waste high quality materials on ruins actually, it takes so little time to craft them you can actually just rinse and repeat during like 1 or 2 days with very little investment (except checking your game every now and then) and guaranted yourself a 4 stars lf each. I did this for like a week and I have every ruin/ruin blow at 4 stars and didn't use 4 stars material. I keep high quality materials for materka that takes a long time to craft like healing spells and buffing/debuffing spells.

I pretty much synthesize through my work night. Right now I am aiming to have at least two 3-star materia, with three percentage based substats, for both regular and blow, for every materia. Almost done with the ruin materia, and about a third of the way done with the elemental materia. Long process but its kind of fun. Some 4 star gems in there too.

Where do you get synth catalyst sliver, piece and catalyst ? Like where do you grind for it

Great video! Maybe a simple question but, how did you get so many gold synthesis materials? I've been doing all the events and checking the shops and obtaining what I can through medal exchange purchases, but definitely don't have access to as many gold synthesis material as you do. Are you getting them mainly through the Crisis dungeons at this point?

Just curious is it better to have percentage mareria or just by whole numbers 🤔 kinda don't know what's good or not or the math on it either

Hello, God bless and best of wishes, question, Is 7% good on a 4 star quake? And who is a character that has weapons that can best accolades that element? 💚

I got a 5 star aerora through upgrade and a 5 water blow through synthesis. Hoping i can get a 5 star cura or earth materia next

Maybe I’m commenting to early - so the stats each materia gives only apply for the materia skill or does it also affect other skills?

How do you get enough catalysts to use to try and make the 4 stars? You try and make a couple and run out fairly quickly

I m a little bit confused with the stat exemple/calculation. Why do you add the 5% matk on the overall matk from the character ? To me it's only applied on base stats. Here you add it to the overall already buffed stats from other equipments and materia. My thought, Stats still are better as you apply this on every attack/magic which use it (so potentially 3 or more). The potency from the materia only apply for itself. Depending the build but most of the time for dungeon, you need all you skills. Don't you think ?

How do you get the quake Materia ? I only have quake blow

thx for the info

Wouldn't you want physical materia elemental materias for cloud since he scales mostly off patk?

Performed 1,727 syntheses with 2 5* native (ruin x and fira) and 13 4* (2 with rarity upgrade)

I just love how almost every single time I make magic materia, it has PATK% instead of MATK, and the Blow ones keep giving me nothing but MATK%. Made about 30 Aerora Blows tonight and not a single one got PATK

Actually it wasn’t until recently that I started spamming synthesis after I stocked up on a lot of 5 star materials. In the end I got a bunch of 4-star materia and 3 5-star materia (f2p player here). The 3 materia are Blizzara Blow, Thundara, and Healing Esuna for Poison

I’ve been doing 3-10 a day since week 1, and I’ve only gotten 3 4-star materia and 0 5-stars. Either I’ve got terrible RNG (wouldn’t be surprised) or the rates for higher star materia are rough.

I got one 5* aero before this event.. now if I want one wind materia it is always garbage prior to the odds before 🤔

Hey Octo! quick question regarding rarity. For elemental materias, rarity > stats, I get it. How about ruin materia? we normally don't run it for the damage, just the break effect, so the potency isn't relevent I guess. For this case, is stats > rarity? Or still Rarity > Stats? Thanks in advance.

Thanks for going into details on the differences and gaps between a great 2* and a standard 3* being better (and so on with higher rarity) I definitely need to reorganize my whole stock now 😅

My take on material crafting is that you need all types of material to start off with. Keep the decent 2* with good stats and when you craft 3* or higher, you can replace them. Is better to have material to use on builds and boss then nothing and try to craft something fast .....

Loved the video. Started restructuring all my materias. I still think 5 star mat are a fiction. Never seen one.

I think I started midway during the Summer event and have two 5 stars but there not that great with the stats =( so not sure if i have good luck or just good at getting rug pulled haha

I have a 5 star materia with 10% hp bonus. Great for support

I don't have any 5 star but I did get lucky with 2 4star fire blows having decent substats. I have a 3star of something that has 8.1% healing, highest substat by far on any materia I own! I'm close to 1.1k materia made.

another thing to note, the % stats given by higher rank materia are FAR better than lower rank materia I have only ever rolled a single Rank 5 Materia, it came out the gate with MATK +3.8% (it was phisical materia unfortunatly)

Evening (gold) - IS currently in the game!!! Max potential increase of a sub stat for every materia is fixed per number of stars: - 1 star: 0.3% or 1 - 2 stars: 0.6% or 2 - 3 starts: 1.2% or 4 - 4 stars: 1.8% or 6 - 5 stars: 2.4% or 8 What that means - each time you roll a sub-stat, let say a %, the max increase is one of the above %. Example - if I make 3star materia to level 10, with 3 rolls of Heal %, the max I will get is 3 x 1.2 = 3.6%. P.S. The video didnt talk about potential of rolling specific substat or increasing a specific substat. There are ways to increase these chances.

I'm not entirely sure how, but I've played and crafted almost consistently since day 1 and only this week got a 5*. Except I didn't get only one 5*.. I got 4 of them in like 2 days. RNG seemed to like me this week

Thanks i forgot to upgrade my ruins -_-

I just got 5 star breach with 7%patk and 5% heal its my first 5 star and did not add sub items. Crafted over 700 materia tho

So... Am I get it right: If I got a 4 Star Materia with flat stats, its almost everytime better then a 3 Star Materia with percentage stats - at least in terms of raw damage/healing?

Just got a five star X and O ruinra whilst watching this so I'm probably done now as far as RNG goes. F2P 4 total. A Cura an Aeroa and the two I just mentioned.

Well guess I'll chime in, day 1 player, I try to have synthesis going as much as possible. I've crafted two 5 stars & got one from upgrading. Two water, one thunder. Decent HP% on the waters, but no MAtk. Thunder I got lucky, 5.1% MAtk, by far my best materia. I have 11 four stars, I just figured it was a numbers game, just keep pumping the out & eventually you'll get something decent.

how do you have so much synth materials? do you farm them or do you just get that much naturally and if so, how?

Got my first 5 star today cure

Just got my first 5*. Not perfect but usable. Got fog l, took 11 hours 24 minutes

I have 9 materia at 4 stars. And none at five. At the moment. But i prefer use some green and blue materia.

Hello friend, cool videos. Excuse me friend, How to get Debrave recipe? Can you help me with that information please

I got five 5 stars materia from 1600+ syntheses, am I your luckiest subscriber?

The true endgame content

I wish I had seen this before I wasted so much material making crappy 2* and 3*. I’ve got a handful of 4* now but the stats leave a lot to be desired.

Yeah so basically for ruins the stats vs rarity doesn’t matter as much since u only use it for breaking streams, where as elemental id def get the argument where even with flat stats its just better to have a 4* or 5* with flat stats

im level up the materia(2stars) to level 10 frm lvl 5,and become 4stars

Probably not the right video for this but have a quick QOL suggestion for the game… Am I the only one that plays on a phone and after hitting “equip” accidentally hits “best equipment” because they overlap in their menus? Maybe they should add a confirmation to the best equip.

Ive got 1 5* from synth and 1 5* from upgrading. 1 is meh the other has 5% hp which is okay i guess

These are great; thank you! I was hoping for a tutorial on the materia. Can you go over how to obtain some of those materia in order to synthesize them? For example, while I do have an Esuna (fog), it isn't available for me to synthesize. Maybe there is a simple trick that I'm not aware of.

Thank you for the math on the video. I've synthesized over 1.3k materias and didn't get a 5* yet. Have some 4*s but not that many. I'm synthesizing the whole time on 5 slots.

420 synthesis, I got a 5* Thundaga maybe 100 rolls ago.

Best materia guide hands down

I got one 5 star Cura

I've got one five star lighting materia lol

Im F2p and have 2 5 stars, both with great %stats

I have been playing since launch. Synthesis all the time. Zero five stars. 1 four star. The rates are so low that it's barely with it

Dude where do I get ruin and ruin blow recipie! I’ve been looking forever!

I got my first 5 star last night and it had flat stats 😢😢

I got a lucky esuna fog 5*... -.- RIP

Same, got a 5* Cure+Poison. Flat stat 🤦🏻‍♂️

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You are missing your scholar hat. 🙃 Guess I need to make math time part 2 to add it 😆

I didn't know that cura did not have hp%

In the age of A.I. , better photoshop, and easier video editing than ever before, I'm amazed at the boldness of this youtuber to use a green wind screen on his mic pointed at his mouth. lol. ...good video though, maybe someday I'll finally get a 5* if rng gods stop smiting me.

I have 3 5 star ... Thunder Blow , Fire , Healing Esuna

RNG is sooo painful at times 😢

I got two 5* materias, one magic the other physical, but the magic have phy stat the phy one has magic stats. Smh

I don’t know if anyone else knows this but when upgrading materia you can actually go from 2* to 4* too

Heck, I just want more than one four star. And to no surprise it had horrible stats.

I already knew except tht a flat 4 is better thn a 3 with huge rolls didn’t do the math xD

Materia grinding is far worse than artifact grinding in genshin or star rail. I hope theyll give us better and more options for crafting in the future

I’ve been pronouncing it Eē- suh-na all these years. It is Eh-sun-na 😂

I rhink i had 2 3 star that upgradet to 4 star

Mayb in a year or so we can just reroll the stats on materia so keep ur purples n golds every1

How about how to make Elliott the bestest Chocobo out there? Wait its too late for that, lol

I final got a 5 star but the sub states are so bad

4 star easy but I only got 1 5 star

Ive transfered 4 star materia with flat stats.. whoops

My girl rolled 2 5stars first week she plays semi casual so not always crafting spending stam etc. RNJESUS has yet to bless me 😢

8,5% MATK 1 roll not MATK purple materia u can reach around 10% stats with purple Flat stats are nothing