Advanced Sci-fi Civilisations Too Stupid To Really Exist Ep.17 - Bregna (Aeon Flux) 

🤣😂🤣you made me spit!!!

bregenante?

Oh, spurdo!

Can you get gregnant ?

Hometown of Breg Nancy

Especially when those fertile ones are specifically targeted to be extinguished from the gene pool.

Well with the tech they have on hand they would be able to create an ivf program on crack. Pretty sure they could preserve every single available egg and sperm a human creates. They could definitely revive the world with only a couple of fertile male and female pairs.

Pah, What's with the pessimism ? Next you'll probably say it wasn't beautiful & righteous to shoot down the blimp over a populated city for no real reason when they could probably land it safely.

​@HauntedXXXPancake ironically the "fertile people" were in the path of that blimps destruction so hopefully everything works out.

Well his too villains too stupid to win video's sure. Most of his Civilization ones though are a bit more 50/50. In this case it leaned a bit heavily towards the Villains cause they were in control of every thing. Though in my mind Aeon wasn't a lot better as she seemingly had no plan other than destroy the cloning process.

Or if there were a smart villan it would be an even more awesome movie when the good guy needs to work harder! All the movies the villans help the hero to.to end them in a nutshell

star ship troopers though.

That's what I love about Watchmen. "Dan, I'm not a Republic serial villain. Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago."

@@bube1994 Exactly! Having the villain being a competent, threatening mastermind not only helps to build tension, but also makes every success of the protagonists that much more meaningful. I can understand the villain leaving gaps in his plans due to the lack of information and things like that, but if an average five year old can run circles around him, well... And not get me started on a "hair trigger raging madman" kind of villain. Those have been so poorly overused that recently I find most of them funny and/or pathetic rather than intimidating.

Funny, in Hebrew Oren means "Pine tree", which is fitting since he has a pinecone for a brain.

what the problem with nero ?

@@theflashgordon193 People consider Emperor Nero to be one of history's biggest nutjobs.

@@lukevankleef4245 Nero has been smeared. They said he was playing the fiddle while Rome was burning, when in truth he wasn't even in Rome at the time of those fires. Political hitjob surviving millennia. For all we know, Nero was not in any way worse than any other emperor of that time period.

@@Jonathanizer Of course, I'm well aware of the fact his reputation might have been smeared, but that doesn't change the fact he is still cemented in pop-culture as a nutjob.

there wasnt at first, but then there was

it had more than one interation from memory the episodes evolved over time m

Like I said, it wasn't supposed to make sense. I mean, the first "talkie" episode of the cartoon reveals that everyone in Bregna (literally) has a key to Aeon's chastity belt. Kind of odd considering she's supposed to be their enemy.

And in the last episode, all humanity dies. Yup...that's Aeon Flux for you.

@@briancorvello3620 Because of the symbolism. It's....it's weird and I don't know if I remember it all correctly, but it's got a lot to do with Gnosticism. Even the word "Aeon" is taken from it. There's also an episode where Trevor falls in love with the Demiurge, so the connection is practically shoved in your face. Something about both Trevor and Aeon being two sides of a divine force, hence why they hate each other but are also viscerally attracted to one another? I dunno, just look up gnosticism on Wikipedia, it's a real mindtrip. here's a lot of Karl Jung sprinkled in there also, with Aeon being a symbol of the Anima or something...I dunno, I need to stop typing before I give myself a headache.

Yeah if you can make a clone it's just the same thing to mix the d.n.a to make a human just like us.

I never understood why sci-fi likes the "DNA degradation" thing with cloning. Star Gate does it too. As long as you've got perfect DNA storage (which we're not far off achieving in RL) theres no such thing.

@@IsaacIsaacIsaacson dna degradation would mean cancer rates skyrocket exponentially for every generation of clones if you're copying the copy and not the original individuals' dna

@@NewPaulActs17 Like seriously, who clones the clone? I admit I don’t know anything but it sounds like incest to me if we go with the DNA Degradation idea.

@@Predator20357 from a certain point of view, yeah

@@am-ranth8955 You're right, it wouldn't change Zealot's analysis one bit. And even more stupid than Bregna is me, because I forgot to say that I was talking about Trevor from the TV show, which is pretty embarrassing. lol Thanks for the reply!

All style, no substance. Hell, the original shorts had Aeon die in each episode and were totally disjointed. The later full-length episodes were without a truly cohesive plot and only had a few characters in common, namely Aeon Flux and Trevor Goodchild. There wasn't a cohesive plot.

@@Craxin01 As someone who owns them all on DVD watching the show in its entirety feels like a fever dream, but I feel like that's supposed to be the vibe. It was made by MTV afterall.

And I'm saying this as a fan of the show.

@@cubeman22 I think it was about the animation style and the aesthetic. Don't get me wrong, both were fantastic, and I enjoyed the hell out of them. But still, no real substance. No canon, no cohesive story, not even a loosely connected Rick and Morty type story.

@@Craxin01 I'm referring mostly to the show. But yeah I agree.

maybe the sickness deleted the reproduction dna?

The only logical explanation to that I can think of would be that the clones were given a shot of the vaccine to prevent them to aquire the virus wich may still be lurking out there

@@RexMK- that one would make sense but in that case he only would have had to remove one side effect or make a better vaccine in those 400 years instead of trying to solve fertility itself

Yeah vaccinations can't effect the DNA of a person it can't even sterilize them. Since no humans have been spreading the disease in 400 years there's no way it would still be active and a threat to humans.

@@kevinwilson140 true. It's hard to believe that an injection that's supposed to do something else would for some reason cut a very specific part out of the DNA in every single cell of the body

Yeah I always found that extremely weird and how the Peacekeepers are heavily outnumbered by them 10 to 1 somehow even though they have higher reproduction rates then ordinary humans.

I'd love to see that one two.

@@thorshammer7883 Wellll considering how focused they were on trying to *Ahem* splice genetic traits from other aliens, they likely had their own 'People Farms' which popped Scarrans out in vast numbers. Baring this, and since we don't see them specifically address the subject, they possibly lay eggs. And if they can fertilize an egg, drop it, some time later fertilize another to leave and repeat, it would match and possibly exceed how fast the Sebaceans. And I thought the Lizards only outnumbered the Peacekeepers as a military force, not the entire Sebacean species, whom had vast, far ranging centers of population who were often neutral or even apathetic in the affairs of Peacekeepers.

@@thorshammer7883 Well they're not allowed to breed indiscriminitely and they can suspend their pregnancies. I think the Peacekeeper leadership realized too late how big the threat of the Scarrans so they didn't do anything to shore up their numbers. The Peacekeepers had been doing their thing for so long I think they got complacent and arrogant.

Yeah that's a different one because that's a advanced sci-fi civ that's LITERALLY too stupid to exist. On a sidenote I really didn't like that they used real plants that exist on earth for that though although I guess that kind of indicates the Eidolons took more from earth than just humans.

Villains too stupid to exist is so much fun, i especially recommend the Waterworld episode. So many slam dunk lines, delivered with perfectly composed voice.

And humanity will resume screwing the world and having babies!

@@Jonathanizer Watched Waterworld. Oh man, I remember that movie quite diferently.

@@matosz23 The movie was fun. I remember watching it as a kid when it came out. Years later as an adult again, some rerun on tv. Still, the villains are pretty silly.

Yup - this is the ultimate problem with technology: it preserves a species that exists at such odds with nature that it’s now toxic to the biosphere that keeps it alive.

@Giocimo I dig the underlying import of your comment here, but what you've said might mislead - even unintentionally - a reader into thinking the replication crisis is worse or even wholly different than it actually is. Even if only when considering the original context of Media Zealot's quip at Trevor Goodchild. Firstly, the replication crisis is something that for the most part is confined to psychology or a little more broadly 'behavioral studies'. Some people do point out the similarities in methodologies between the aforementioned two and the 'soft sciences' more generally (whatever those are) but the replication crisis was first detected in and if you ask me largely remains confined two either psychology or behavioral studies researchers and departments. Secondly, the phrase 'published as fact' while effective as a conveyor of verve and understood as a term of art in legal and academic circles somewhat mischaracterizes the nature of critical inquiry in science and the purpose of peer-reviewed publications. Having a study published in an academic journal or really any organ of note *is not* an endorsement of that study's findings, methodology, authors, research team, the institution from which they hail or its cultural significance in the current moment. Nor is it really even the authors claiming they have fact-found (although they should be somewhat certain of their research to submit it for publication). Publication in relevant journals and organs of record is done so that others can replicate the conditions of the study and either replicate the results or not. In short, the team or journal authoring or publishing a study don't 'publish it as fact' so much as other people don't bother to replicate the study conditions and then, through steady cultural osmosis the results of the unchallenged study make their way into the broader society, where the general public takes those claims as fact. The replication crisis emerged not when researched stopped caring about how factual their claims were, nor when the editorial boards of applicable publications stopped caring about the methodologies of those submitting their papers, but rather when others in the same fields, who had the ability and scientific duty to attempt replication, simply didn't bother doing it and later on when average people just started accepting things they'd heard as fact, without checking the state of the research or even really the nature of empirical falsifiability itself. Sorry for the long-windedness. Cheers!

_trust the science tho_

as far as I am aware, the replication crisis is mostly relegated to the social sciences....so you know, can we even really call that science in the same sense?

I've never seen the series, only the movie, as a teenager. And the movie was awesome scify, high tech, chicks in black leather suit, action. It was almost a perfect movie. Only Matrix may have gone beyond, 4 years later.

​@@Dampfaeusyou'd like the series.

Well, the Federation and Star Fleet _do_ look quite careless and stupid sometimes, I give you that. But don't forget that we are speaking about a long running tv show and quite often attackers enjoy not only plot armour, but plot cloaking etc as well. Just look at the Worf effect. Worf was badass even by klingon standards and thus, whenevern the writers wanted to point out that someone is dangerous, they let him beat up Worf - to the point where Worf became a pussy, because pretty much half of the galaxy had beaten him up. Twice. It ended with Worf's spine being not just broken, but 'crushed' by and empty plastic barrel. Also, the Federation and Star Fleet _can_ be quite mean and efficient when pushed hard enough and a lot of people learned this the hard way. And although Section 31 is not exactly official and the guys Black Ops calls when _they_ need a secretive mission done, _they_ even had no scruples to wipe out an entire species. And Sisko was involved in a secret mission that consisted of killing innocent people in order to get the Romulans into the war and _this_ was not coming from Section 31, this was official inofficial Star Fleet politics.

@@Furzkampfbomber oh my god the barrel. The damn BARREL 🤦🏻‍♂️

@@jamesduncan6729 Yup, rumour has it that the klingons try to reach an agreement with the Federation that will ban the further development and production of plastic barrels, kinda like this thing with the Romulans and cloaking devices. Understandable, if I was a klingon, I guess I'd be scared of plastic barrels as well.

😳

they also forget they have security "cameras" everywhere

Example: Shutting down world economy over an overhyped virus is a pretty huge red flag and purely an excuse for political centralization approaching V for Vendetta tier.

@@supercalifragic1551 why bother man, most ppl will just dismiss you as crazy.

@@old_kasr1155 In part, because I find that a large portion of people aren't insane and can tell something is wrong even if they can't articulate what so it's useful to leave nuggets where it's relevant so they think "Yeah, that sounds right" and search for more information. Others may outright agree. As for rest? Simple, I stopped caring what gutless followers of whatever their blinking lightbox tells them. Most people are cowards or sleeping. The remainder are complicit and are the kind of people who would call the stazi on their neighbor. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@@supercalifragic1551 Have you been to the ER's around the world? Not overhyped. It doesn't take much to overwhelm our medical systems. What could you get Cubans, Canadians Democrat US politicians, Iranians, Chinese, Taiwanese, Russians, and New Zealanders to agree on? Cuba, Russia, and China even made their own vaccines with different sets of technologies.

@@supercalifragic1551 fair enough

Oi, that's good.

Magic science devices

It does make you wonder why they needed Kruger to do their dirty work if they had such an advanced grasp on robotics.

@@shaihulud3140 honestly. Just send a suped up mega robot and problem solved.

YES! Elysium should be next!

The Chamberlain was pretty much the only and most sensible and logical one of them all. *"Mmmmmm..."*

Yes!

i would love to see a video on this

To be fair, they have between 60-90 IQ in a world where everyone else has 20-80 IQ.

They're not really an advanced sci-fi civilization though, but it's still a great pick.

They CREATE LIFE

@@nathananderson7439 (…..and they destroy it.)

The Abrasax siblings?

Despite the cartoony feel of the film, i think the world building with the galaxy spanning dystopia was pretty plausible in Jupiter Ascending. Or maybe it's just been too long since i watched the movie.

They could have made them physically and mentally superior. Aesthetically perfect too.

@@GeorgeMonet improving the mind might be more important, but yeah improve both, and they could have been unstoppable.

i wish someone had the man after man approach and went "well instead of changing our environments to suit us, we should change ourselves to suit our environments"

That would be a really long ass video. I thought I was watching a terrible Bruce Willis cash grab. Ugh

They had better, all of 40K could be on the list XD

The Skaven from Warhammer Fantasy should get a video.

@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 Damn straight. Skaven society by all rights shouldn’t work, let alone survive.

Well, to be honestly fair, they aren't *THAT* stupid. Their level of stupidity is actually quite realistic. The only thing that really is stupid is that they don't innovate and they didn't destroy Earth when they had the chance.

Hiring is based more on connections than merit, the amount of money involved prevents risk taking, executive decisions are made by those with little if any connection to the source material, the Hollywood format dictates a certain length of film... Plenty of reasons.

You make one then.

Haha, I think I confused that movie with this one, now that you mention it.

And the crazy thing is she played a hideous character in Monster not too before this movie.

Ignoring climate change, because big oil, gas and heavy industry are such profitable money makers right now. Lowering emissions might save the planet, but also lower profits. Can't have less profits, oh no, that's Marxism (or some other scary word).

@@Jonathanizer iphone vuvuzuela 100 billion dead

The real reasons empires fall is both kind of boring and not easy to tell in 90 minutes, and doesn't hinge on a single person you can build a narrative around

@@mitchellhorton9382 I know that is why they all seem so stupid in movies

The only way to save our civilization is to completely blow it up.

@@noone.3532 I mean if you want a movie that's actually about that watch Dune There's a reason the movies keep failing despite it being an amazing book series (though I think the first book is one of the weaker ones)

@@mitchellhorton9382 Yeah I agree. the books fascinated me at school

How bad can a civilization be where they had an early version of Tinder. Logan was swiping left until he found Jessica.

@@johnharris6655 I'd swipe right on Jenny Agutter, too. She was gorgeous then and even now, at 68, she still looks fantastic.

@@davidpumpkinsjr.5108 Still one of the better dystopian sci fi movies.

Like, what? The domed city from Logan's Run?

Demolition Man started as dystopian but quickly switched to utopian.

I mean stupid utopias are generally some form of author preaching, and usually don't get made into films. Fingers crossed for Snyder's Fountainhead adaptation, maybe?

@@scytheseven9173 I like that Snyder is smart enough to realize that nobody is going to pay for that lol