Every genre of motorcycles or about any hobbie, have people 'playing dress up'. Seems to me though, most people that buy ADV bikes have no intention of off roading, or very little. There is NOTHING wrong with that. If I buy a Ducati Panigale it doesn't mean I have to speed every place I ride or do track days. Most big ADV bikes are comfortable, high performance machines. That's why people buy them.
I bought a 2021 crf1100 as I wanted to go off roading! I have a jeep and enjoy green lanes! Loving bikes, I thought why not! I've owned a 1987 gsxr1100h for 22 years, but my god it's uncomfortable! I like the style of adv, very comfortable! Far too heavy for me to take off road though! Still, I'm very happy with using an adv bike for touring!
@@terrystratford1235 If you like dirt tracks, get a dirt bike. Adv are for long touring with occasional dirt roads. And to try some things if you like. I tried the TET Trans European Trail. Lots of sand and a bit mud in my area. Some people like that. for short tours alone a lighter bike might be better though.
@@terrystratford1235 or you could keep the trials bike and africa twin. There's a whole thread on the africa twin forum about attaching a trailer to one to tow another motorcycle
@autismion if I saw that on the road....I'd have to look twice!! I'm sure my africa twin could do some serious stuff! But at 48, overweight, bad back....I'm not going to be picking it up!
Not long ago and not for the first time, I took my Enfield 650 Interceptor (with street tires) way out to a remote campground in the Los Padres National Forest, CA (Nira). The road up Happy Canyon and down Sunset Valley was long, water crossings, deeply pot-holed, with long stretches of loose rock, but completely passable and at no time was I afraid I'd dump the bike. When I was arriving at the camp, there were a handful of big and expensive "Adventure Bikes" leaving and as they passed, their riders all stared at me like I didn't belong there or something. My point is just this: a lot of motorcycles (except low slung Harley "baggers" and Sports Bikes) can go just about anywhere if the rider has good maneuvering skills at low speed, if the rider is alert to avoid hazards and if forward motion is maintained at all times.
You are not wrong! But I loooove my 2016 GSA! My bucket list bike! While I dabbled in some delusions of off-road grandeur, imagining probably more dirt utility than reality could warrant, I love it because for the most part, I knew pretty much what it was, and was not, going in. A sweet touring bike that can actually tractor into an out of places that a dedicated sport tourer can only dream of. I am an experienced dirt rider (at least a decade or 2 ago I was) so it has been fun exploring its off-road limits, which are many. Which is why I am going down the 690 rabbit hole that led me to your channel. Keep up the good work! Keep at it lil bro!!!
So True!.....after owning a Dual Sport, there's just NO way I would ride an ADV off-road.....Never!!!.....I don't think people realize how Easy it is, to get in a non recoverable situation with a 500lbs bike and be completely crippled....and I Only say that, because I've been in SO many bad situations with my Dualy.....and just shook my head realize how Screwed I would be if this bike were over 400lbs....... I still want an ADV, but just for cross country.
Most using 1000cc+ adv bikes as sport tourers that are more useful than actual sport tourers. Plus you can pack an absolute ton of stuff more than possible on a traditional sport touring bike that would look crazy and like handle terribly. Adv bike handle full loading easily and pack big power too. Going offroad is for most just an added benefit.
Ha ha, well done and funny video! But I think the point most people miss is if I have to trailer a dirt bike 1000 miles to ride a bdr. I don’t consider that an adventure. Riding 1000 miles of pavement, then another 600 miles of dirt on the same bike is Adventure. Trailers are for boats.
Really depends on your riding ability. I just sold my Africa Twin because I was not good off road with it. I've ridden with quite a few people on adventure bikes that are faster than a lot of people on DRZs, including me. Until you get into deep mud, that is. Once that happens, there's no overcoming the weight of an adventure bike.
I am in the same boat right now with my AT. It is just too slow for me offroad. Even on gravel service roads, I am not good enough at riding it, or it is simply too heavy to confidently throw around corners. I have no problem accepting my skill level, yet when I ride with others on bigger bikes, even the 890 Adventure, they are almost as slow around corners too. This leads me to believe the physics of big bikes does not lend themselves to fast, flowing riding offroad unless it is long, straight, fast forest service roads.
@@wickedleeloopy2115 whenever I hear folks talking about ground clearance I mostly think they’re not riding in the same places as I’m riding. Which is OK. I’m just looking for a foot and a half clearance under the bike.😛
Funny video. It really doesnt matter what someone rides, as long as they ride! I have done behemoth adventure bike and now I guess I am a girl and a nerd. Wouldn't trade it, I am comfortable with my new identity. Ride, ride, ride. That's what it's about, now matter how you do it. Cheers.
Couldn’t be better explained, bravo!! I ride a 1290R no bags, no gear, I’d never go camping with the thing, it’s just a huge dirt bike to blast on smooth gravel roads, it’s just a toy….
I recently started looking for a dirtbike and came across ADV models... I asked myself what this has to do with offroading as they are way too heavy for be very good at this. Obviously they are just tour bikes with a little bit of off road capabilities. I might go for the 250 Rally model from Honda... but I am in early research and talking to people, so I still got a lot of time to make up my mind on which bikes I will test.
I consider mine a tourer for moderately tall people, with comfier suspensions and better clearance than lower height tourers. Adventure terminology is mostly marketing
Could not agree more. I feel like ADV riders collectively need to accept this and shatter the marketer's bubble of delusion they've created to sell more bikes.
Funny but true. I do have a R11200GSA low chassis but it is set up for road only. It doesn't even pretend to be an adventure bike. I just like the way it looks, handles and how comfortable it is for long distance, not to mention I have no trouble keeping up with any sport touring bike.
Nobody wants to talk about how a crash bar on the side of your ADV bike will be the accessory that will break your leg when it falls on you....at a stop. They are being called ADV bikes...but really in the end they are called motorcycles....my first "adv" bike was a 1979 Yamaha MX100. Trouble was the police would put my bike in the trunk of their cruiser and bring me home to my parents when I was "adventuring" too far (with no license, insurance, or registration). I think in the big picture of things...these bikes are evolving...and are inevitably being built smaller, and lighter.
Just your opinion, I do agree that some guys buy the bike for the looks and don't use it as an "adventure bike", but any time you ride it's an adventure, regardless what your bike is. Also, what oil do you recommend for long distance riding?
I have one and i am happy with it. Perfect for long tours all day on the bike. I like the position to sit and the ability to go on dirt roads if needed. Sometimes i try some more challenging ways and fell down on sand. One time went to working roads in a forest. Unfortunately 1cm dry on top and 15cm wet clay under. The profile was full right away, the back wheel was spinning without grip and i sunk to the side. 6 times i had to lift the bike until i was out. All by myself. It was a good feeling after i was out but wont try that stunt again all by myself. I am 1.88cm and 125kg, smaller bikes are not for me. Bad position for my knees and back and i look like an ape on a grindstone.
Last year I rode my 07 400 xcw through the Idaho mountains for 6 days. It was a lot of fun. We did have to trailer our bikes for 5 hours to get there and we did an hour on i90 and I thought the 400 was going to blow up at 55 mph (15 mph under the speed limit). It would have been nice to have an adventure bike.
It funny to me when people spend upward if 20k for an adventure bike but the small Honda CT 125 retail at 4k go further then all of them😂 at a slower speed of course 😂
Agree. I spent last Saturday squat-lifting my far too heavy 525x. I had a great time but must have cursed the weight of the bike a hundred times! Time for a 2nd bike...
I bought a 1290 and I love it, I know I don't have the skill set to do any adventure ridding but I just love the power it possesses and leader bike riders don't leave me behind. That said, I do want to do some off roading and the 1290 is not my 1st choice, it's gonna be a 300cc of some sort. I didn't fall the adventure coolaid when I got the 1290. I got it because to me it looks awsome.
Adventure bikes are the anti-goldilox of motorcycles. Not as comfortable as a true touring bike, can't offroad like a dualsport, not fuel efficient or durable, they do NOTHING well and suffer in all areas.
Well said. I am now celebrating 55 years of riding motorcycles. To say that I’ve ridden just about every type of bike all off-road Enduro, motocross, trail riding is an understatement. I would not own one of these bikes if you gave it to me!
I enjoyed the video and agree with you! Most folks get wrapped up in buying an "image" rather than buying what they actually need and whats practical. There are legitimate hard core enthusiasts that own each machine you mentioned and like you said they are 10% or maybe even less! The beautiful thing about the ADV's is for example my Super Ten does everything my big cruiser did better and then some. I also take it to places most people wouldn't and it'll rack up long distance miles I couldn't imagine doing on my 650. Cheers!
In other words...or my words... A bike that's practically a motocross bike and barley legal. Geared to do over 80 on the freeway...Or you get ran down or beat the valves to death. Big tank. 3 to 4 gallons. No bags or boxes...that's gay. Regular backpack with tools, clothes, food and WATER. 3 ridat least... one stays wial the other gets help if things go bad. KTM EXC...and, YES, I even rode my Baja pre-run bike to Vegas from Riverside...300 miles each way, all dirt and NO CHASE. Many times. Reno and back too. I've had to help and repair those big bikes on the dirt. Boy, they are heavy! 😂
I'd sort of agree when it comes to the big ADV bikes but not the middle weight, I have a T7 and bought it so I could travel a long distance then go poking up some 4wd track or go up riverbeds etc, They are not an either or bike but an everything bike. Most of our riding would be very uncomfortable on either a enduro or a road bike
Yup, that's so true 😅 I've bought ktm 390 adv only for traveling on road and a little offroad to take a picture in nice places. For real offroad I have suzuki DRZ400, It's awesome motorcycle for that.
Overlanding and Adventure Riding have become a fashion. At the end of the day, if it makes you happy, great, as long as you're not knocking others. However, it does sound like you haven't taken a long trip with mixed surface riding. Load up that dual sport, and then an ADV bike and share?
I have 30 000km touring my 1200 gsa with a lot of offroad and sometimes very sketchy places but I know its limited offroad but it gets me to beautifull destinations in the middle of nowhere. So yeah for me it has been an adventure bike but maybe thats just me
Hey, I have to watch my cholesterol! I ride the ultimate bike: the t-dub... but I am leering at the CRF300L a lot these days. Entertaining vid, as always!
@@doomermotorsports Oh man, I just watched your quitting work video. Pure genius. Not sure why I missed that one. Anyway, gobless. Let us know how we can keep up with your shenanigans.
Oh I dont know, i ride with a bunch of different guys, and i keep up with the guys on their sport and naked bikes, just a whole lot more comfortable. Most roads aren't perfect like a track so a bit longer suspension travel eats that stuff up.
So true, plus get an old bike. Suzuki DR, Honda XR, Yamaha TT. These bikes are lightweight. Also you can fix them yourself on the side of the road. These bikes can take you around the world if you want.
Swapped my GSA1200 for a CRF300L. Never had more fun 🙂 If Im going back to something similar to the GSA Im getting a Goldwing. Same shit, different wrapping, just more comfy
Its hard but the truth. Also had a african twin, never took it truly offroad. Te expensive to repair if it crashed and also a dickens with the insurance companies in sa if they find you went offroad and fell... sold mine and bought another speedbike. Does the same job just faster😊
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THAT WAS A GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT THEM i just got my TRANSALP 750 and it wont be seeing any hard off road stuff for me its a 90/10 90% road 10% dirt i also have my 300 Rally for dirt.. ahhhhh but i have nothing against anyone getting the bike they want for what ever the reason , its all about the big picture and that is riding
I got a kick out of this. I am one of those guys who owns a perfectly good dual sport (KTM 500 EXC-F) and still gets some sick pleasure out of seeing what kind of sloppy mess I can manage to wrestle a 500+ lb ADV bike through. Is it dumb? Absolutely. But I have a blast and that's good enough for me.
