Mshololo what she did, she actually exposed him for who he really is to those who still think that he is a fair judge, he was so much into his feelings he did away with emotional intelligence that all judges are supposed to possess when dealing with these issues, even a 2 year old who can barely talk can see that this person has lost all his marbles.
The defense strategy was to confuse ratha acting as if they are divided on recalling Steyn bcos they knew that if he sees them divided ratha will side with baloyi and he did exactly as they anticipated now upon realizing that he has been played he started getting angry at everyone cause now he can see that mnisi was right when he said the state is sixfeet under ground by allowing Steyn to come the state will be twenty four feet under ground 😂😂😂
The judge can bring any witness he wants. The state forgot completely about Kelly the said mastermind. The day Kelly set her foot in that court the state will be embarrassed.
Baloyi's facial expression speaks volumes. The cooking does not simmer allegedly. No matter how hard Baloyi tries to stoke the fire the wood produces no flames.
Based on what both Adv Mshololo, Adv Mnisi and Adv Mngomezulu have displayed in this part as submitted arguments, then you can bet that the final arguments will bring the case to a shattering climax eliciting such inferno that not even Dante could fathom. Ratha, in his warped stupidity will give a guilty verdict, but the appeal will roast him alive and thus ruin forever his purported intended legacy. His reputation as a noble judge will be tarnished forever. 🇿🇦🙏
The problem with Judge Ratha is that he claims to know too much allegedly. I quote "Are you saying I've made a ruling for this application?" But look at what happened eventually he ruled in favour of Baloyis application. Msho says in the event that the court grants. Ratha fumes, throws tantrums and he is in a fit of rage. He becomes uncontrollable like an inferno. This is the guy who claims to listen and not forget. This is pathetic and causes mental anguish.
She's growing my dear. The strategy is not to take it personally but to develop yourself to the fullest to continue frustrating judges like ratha. She'll be appreciated by smart judges
Do not feel pitty for her, the environment is making her stronger than before, learning and building strong muscles to show those who looked down upon her, that they disrespected the wrong woman. Mama Winnie left us the real legacy, fight tooth and nail
if she said ' Stupid' not a problem because it is not an insult, stupid is when a person hear the true, know the true, be told the true but still that person want to believe the lie, then it is stupid.
I WISH THAT THIS CASE WAS REPRESANTED BY THE WHITE JUDGE,THE TRUTH WOULD B E OUT BY 2015, WE WANT JUSTICE FOR LATE SENZO WHO WAS KILLED BY 2014. 2024, THERE'S NO TIME TO PLAY HERE THE TRUTH MUST COME OUT.
U right white judge shd have been given this trial coz they do not accept bribes and they hate dragging their reputation into disrepute. There are some blak judges who are okay but the 2 that presided over this case are a curse and are certified idiots
The way Judge Rathavern stormed out of court, throwing his hands in the air, I am inclined come Monday, he will come in court carrying pangas, Mboro style
Mshololo must not beg down, the noise of the pen has now started, go mshololo go, you also read your books and passed your exams, if they throw you with balls???? through back to the sender. That's the name of the game ❤❤❤
I am happy your brother can see corruption and breaking of law by the judge in that courtroom I am surprised of the silence of the judge president Mlambo and chief justice Zondo
There was nothing wrong which Adv Mshololo did in her argument. She merely sharpened her weapons of the war and ripped him apart. Citing the constitution was a genius act on her part because she knew that he had already decided on this part, so she was doing it as a basis from which the appellate division must spring. She's gone past Rathaburg, but she is laying the ground for the full bench that must at some point in the future sit down to throw out Ratha 's judgement, and the old galoot knows this but is helpless, can't self correct. Pride, conceit and ego are stacked against him like a Greek anti-hero as he moves towards his tragic end. 🇿🇦
Ratha is a Tavern guru that is why he interrupts the defense all the time. In a Tavern we speak as we wish throw tantrums and raise our hands up in the air to instill fear to whoever we are in argument with. Allegedly
Loool true SADLY THIS OLD MAN HAS NO SHAME WHATSOEVER IM JUST WONDERING IF HE KNOWS THAT THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING HIS CORRUPTED WAYS N THAT VERY SOON HE IS GOING TO PAY VERY DEARLY
Biggest problem with the law/constitution is that judges are not held accountable for thier judgements...a judge can make a deliberate error and be overruled by the higher court without any consequences for that judge!! Im yet to see any judge being prisoned or sued for errors they commited!
You are correct that the tarven judge iin his world he 's never wrong (superiority complex) however he would admit his son's application regardless. How would he have prepared the admission that was almost an hour long. In my opinion he gave me zungu's vibes
You are right. They played the state and the judge. It waa a very clever move that's why Mngo didn't oppose. The defense is a solid unit and they strategize together @@nkosikhonamthembu9380
When is the State going to call Judge Rathavern to the stand, as their witness...because he can change characters like nobody's business...he is the Lordship Rathavern after all 😅😅
Notice how the judge makes the defence *_"ill at ease?"_* 🤔 And no, he is NOT an emotional man... he was taking offense to the _perceived_ criticism by the submissions chipping away at his grandiose sense of self. I'll leave it here. EDIT: Adv. Mshololo's submission was 🔥👌
@@DiyaThulani Remember Ratha already knew which lawyers were going to oppose the application. So it didn't matter what they had to say he had already decided that he will approve the application so he just cut and paste from Baloyi 😏
As for me Msholilosto was right judge Ratatata thinks he's the only one knew justice ♎ undermine other people Nd he's rude ,so to me she didn't crossed ⚔️ the line Judge Tarven No mistake Msholilosto is tired of Ratatata
Mshololo be strong your are true soldier your true story shaken him,that is why RAtha was so kwaàii, south African was in your side the true was revealed
I agree with you but I don't blame Mshololo, this judge is so annoying it's sometimes not easy for her to keep her cool. This judge is capable of taking out the worst in her!
Kant'uthin New police minister mna bendcinga uzawbalapha kakhul kuna kqala cz uthethile kakhul ngale CASE ngokuya ebengeka bingumpathi pls MR MCHUNU show urself do smthing cz this is really a waste of time which is cozin more pain to us 😢GOD for bid imagine wht wil it be if MAMA Meyiwa my rest without closure of his beloved SON? y r u guys doing this is there happiness in ur sleepful mind at night? Bt brther sfiso am tellin u ur prayers aziweliphantsi
The analyst was actually commending Mshololo subliminally that's how I understood her. It was a jibe at Ratha at the same time. Very poetic of the analyst and she deserves an award
This doesn't really need an expert. A pdf document when converted to a Word document or Excel document will maintain the original content. The main reason people convert a pdf to excel or Word is so that it can be edited. A pdf document cannot be edited. That's the reason why Steyn converted Pinky 205s to excel in order to edit. Remember the defense waited for weeks for the 205s, I suspect they created an excel file and then entered everything manually without directly converting the pdf
I think Mnisi should speed up the process to register a complaint or a case so that Baloyi can be arrested in court just like Teffo was arrested. This is karma that is coming to hunt him
This is depressing from the judge. How I wish there was a case review committee of some sort to evaluate the conduct and demeanor of judges as they engage with the state and the defence. I personally see nothing wrong with what Mshololo said and I fully agree, even though I am no expect in the law. Let them bring Steyn and that grace that Mnisi spoke about, 24 feet is awaiting the state...
The advocate never called him stupid. Ratha is lying He is parading his stupidity in public. He is not only behaving irrationally to the defence, but to us who watch youtube video analysis.
Msholly did well by sticking to law, Ratha and his ego, reputation and intelligence shouldn't affect the court procedure but I digressed true Ratha's ego is more important than the trial itself.
when is the State is their turn he doesn't interrupt them when it's the turn for Mshololo, Ramosepele and Mngomezulu he always interrupt them. I agree with Mshololo. If the brown Envelope is talking and when Mshololo on stand and see the gaps and the potholes Ratha gets agree at her
He would still tap on the desk with that pencil. I digress... So if you litsen carefully on the heads of arguments, Baloyi also quoted individuals including "The court"... so kuyafana he did it first 🤷🏿♂️