Aeroplane Heaven Hawker Hurricane - First Look Review! - MSFS. 

Try looking at a another video that actually showcases the sound

Like almost all AH planes there is no prop sound in the cockpit, if they added that all their planes would sound miles better.

I show case it just fine.

I don’t yet have the Hurricane, but that high-pitched sound at full RPM reminds me of a characteristic of their Chipmunk. It seemed as if the engine was revving way too high, and therefore the pitch of the sound was off. This “might” be the same.

@@kennethjameskerr Yep, thankfully Avangel is objective enough to point out sound problems on AH aircraft. Their modelling and texturing are exquisite, I don't understand why they are so sloppy on engine sounds!!?? To me, sound is the soul of the aircraft, if it is not true, the aircraft is a dud...

actually now after watching it now i feel a bit dumb, i feel like this is a bit average for AH standards. Flying Iron should make a Hurricane because they have done an amazing Spitfire and BF-109

It's not terrible... but its a bit lower in standard than their thunderbolt and a few other releases.

yeah im new to MSFS to a point, i have been interested in their P-51 and so far it has not let me down however their P-47 i was told was underwhelming.

I concur, I thought these sounds are very very good

nice profile pick of jersey jerk, you live local ? im down the road from sywell

I must have gotten bad info then, I recall it only saying one. My fault there.

Would add the GotFriends Wildcat and the Milviz Corsair. But not much more.

That’s accurate to the aircraft for differential braking both „work“ together like normal

@@AvAngel Ok, thanks for the info.

They're for the sewing machine, used to make in-flight repairs to the canvas skin. You wouldn't want to take a 20mm cannon shell up the chuff, only to find that your bobbins are empty. Always check your bobbins, always. That's your first immediate action drill right there.

Would help if the person who posted had the volume up and did flyby cams great work echo

The internal engine sounds are almost generic, they should be thunderous, full of low end grunt. It really does sound tinny...

The volume was pretty far up, any higher and you wouldn't hear me. Flyby im sure is great, but not more important than interior in a sim where we fly. My comments are my own, they're my personal opinion. I've seen Echo19's prior work and it's been generally excellent. This sounds odd in comparison. External is decent. Internal; not enough bass, lacking around the 50/75 range with maybe a bit of 125. drop some 1k out of it and a little 4k. Re EQing the interior would make it much more accurate to Merlins. The general range is there but its washed out by the higher end.

@@AvAngelI agree on the sounds. Having heard a Hurricane in the real world, it just doesn’t sound right. Which, I get is perhaps not helpful to the developers. Btw, there are approximately 16 airworthy Hurricanes left in the world. Including a unique two seater.

@@AvAngel We've made some small dynamics/EQ changes per several discussions, it should sit a bit closer to the externals as far as overall mix balancing is concerned. Thanks for the feedback!

It does sound thin doesn’t it ?

@@AvAngel you really need to get into flyby cams i can guide you on how to do it

May be they made outside sounds only? Inside it sounds like a small outboard engine.

@@AvAngel Yes, now that I have watched/listened when I could pay attention on my drive home, confirmed they are thin. I hope they can be fixed by Echo 19

​@@AvAngel Hi, Thx for the video. Interestingly my sounds are not thin outside the cockpit. Inside there is something missing. It feels like that. Especially in comparison to the Flying Iron Spit. But all in all it is a step further. The AH planes before that one have got some what awful sounds. I got some pink textures as well. I am on SU15Beta.

engine sound is great sadly this reviewer doesn't showcase it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_X7oea9vvJw.html

Good video you linked and yes they do not sound anything alike inside to me.

Probably because that video was shot on a canopy mounted GoPro. Unless you get a high quality capture of what it truly sounds like (which we have), you’re not going to experience the full effect of the Merlin.

@@Echo19Audio interesting I didn't think of it like that and I do understand there can be a huge difference in microphones, even down to what type of microphone you use for what you're recording. I've had a few songs recorded professionally and so I totally get what you're saying. So what do you think is deadening the sound, because typically planes of that era Don't have any soundproofing or even sealing of the cockpit. Some even have big gaps like for instance the Wildcat and quarter inch gaps or so around where the cockpit closes in the back, I think the Hawker is around the same era early World War II. It seems like a lot of the sound from the exterior would get in but I don't know anything about the cockpit or if it's completely sealed or what. Interesting points and now I'm ever more curious lol

@@Echo19Audio So do you record the sound and then leave a flat EQ as to not alter the sound that was captured? What kind of mics are you running?

@@Burstix No sir, we typically do altar the audio slightly in favor of depth. Everyone who has flown/been in a real Spit/Hurricane has agreed that the audio is actually realistic and authentic - it seems that everyone who doesn't enjoy the sound stems from this video. We recently adjusted some of the internal dynamics slightly, favoring more of the low-end rumble. Hopefully, this satisfies everyone's comments about how "thin" it sounds. In any case; while there is not a lot of insulation in the older warbirds - neither is there in modern military aircraft. A giant plexiglass shield actually muffles the audio quite a bit, the "tinny" sound comes from all the metal resonating at higher frequencies, therefor making these older aircraft sound a lot thinner inside. The physical sense of being in the airplane is often lost when dealing with flight sims, so we try to over-exaggerate some frequencies to help compensate. Some pilots refer to the Merlin as the most beautiful sounding engine - on the outside, while the inside sounds literally "like a box of nails" in comparison.

I was on full fuel (attached the fuel truck to refill) so... possibly. it felt very quick, compared to the FI Spit, it was much faster accelerating.

:D

@@AvAngel 👍

Not sure, on 14 iirc

How so now? They are recordings from an actual Hurricane…

@@Echo19Audio I disagree

The external sound is spot on but the internal sound sounds like a Cessna

How do you disagree with a statement of fact? They’re recordings of an actual RR Merlin. What else do you want?

Only going by what I hear my friend I've been around airplanes for over 50 years inside and outside of them I just think they could improve the interior sound

They're a fantastic aircraft, the real hero of the BoB.

My skin is fairly thick and I will always be polite and I'll always explain myself. The DC-3 is also one of my favorites in the sim full stop! if they update it, and its good, I'll praise it. I did for the 140 recently.

@@AvAngel I’m glad to hear your skin is thick enough. As for the Hurricane, I think I will wait for them to get the few things you found sorted. The one thing I like about your “first looks” is we get to see these products warts and all. In the meantime I am happy with my Spit, Dakota and Lightening chasing the ghosts of WW2.

Im just glad to get a female option and see the contributions during The war recognised. It’s a really nice touch

The handling has a button to normalize it apparently. I did miss that!

I literally follow the checklist... you watch me do it. I also switched the start mag off... Is it 100% perfect in my operation? I actually missed the handling clickspot, didn't actually see that one, my fault on that part. How that pink textureless aircraft missing its fallbacks is there I don't know... For reference, this is the package at Simmarket. That is as it came. The texture comments I will hold to, I was polite and honest that was my opinion. Your other aircraft were better. (Also the metal weathering on the doped fabric section is a fair criticism) (Also No axe to grind, I haven't done it for flight sim in years) I reviewed what I received from the store. I paid my own money, and I created my own content. I did not get this from you, nor have I asked for it. This is the post release version of it, not a prerelease I ought to liase on. If this was pre release I would have 100% brougth comments and concerns to you first, that is the correct thing to do. The funny part is I actually Love quite a few of your aircraft, so there is no agenda there... Two of them are my most flown aircraft.

@@aidonatorgaming27 Nope just right of reply. We fought two world wars to preserve it.

@@AvAngel Actually, when you "turned off" the mag switch with engine running you switched it down. In a British aeroplane switches are UP for off. I understand that you purchased the product and I thank you for it. The problem is that in your haste to get the video out, and I understand the reasons why , you rushed into it a bit. But please realise that what your 30 bucks or whatever is buying is 1000's of collective hours of people's hard work, talent and effort. It is quite dispiriting to hear comments which may not be accurate and sweeping condemnations of products which are literally hours old. If people are dissatisified with our products, please use the help desk provided to record bugs and requests. We will always produce upgrades, fixes and updates. I'm an old bugger having done this stuff for nearly 25 year and in my book a review should be clear, concise, accurate and as much as possible unbiased. Yours I'm afraid are not. I could probably have been a little less harsh in my response too. But then living in Australia so long, I'm used to giving as good as I get!

The switch... fair, woops. You also have to see that I, as a creator have a limited window in which to release content. I can't wait days for an email before posting a video. I always claim my reviews are "first looks" not comprehensive. It's first impressions. I like a lot of your work, I really do, but if you listen to my tone in this video, im excited... and I then start to sound dejected because it's disapointing me. This is objective, this is my honest take. You've made better aircraft... like the last one. That left the hangar in a far better state.

@@AvAngel Understood on content, I am an ex advertising Creative Director (30 years) . I can't agree re the package, there's a huge amount of passion and thought gone into it. But it is your opinion and I fought 43 world wars for your right to have it.