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AFL Players That FORCED Rule Changes (Part 2) 

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The AFL has had many rule changes over its 120 year history. But only a few of these rule changes are brought about as a result of certain player's actions. These are more of those rule changes.

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@spudsguitars
@spudsguitars 7 месяцев назад
2008 GF causing the change to deliberately rushing behinds. I was there as a neutral that day, it was kind of genius and frustrating to watch all at once.
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
i covered that in part 1
@jeromy2653
@jeromy2653 5 месяцев назад
Up the Hawks 🎉
@Greaterlater2
@Greaterlater2 7 месяцев назад
Hmm Collingwood yet again has more rule changes than any other team
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
coincidental?
@gregoryray9920
@gregoryray9920 7 месяцев назад
Anything that the pies use to gain an advantage causes a rule change, I recall Steve McKee and his ruck work. Changed the rule and his career was pretty much over
@lennydowntown9376
@lennydowntown9376 15 дней назад
Good. I hate Collingwood.
@auzee4925
@auzee4925 7 месяцев назад
How did Maynard get away considering the last rule you mentioned. Because he chose to bump, forcing a player into retirement
@Danny-mq5oh
@Danny-mq5oh 6 месяцев назад
Because afl loves Collingwood and the grubs
@tsherwood2112
@tsherwood2112 3 месяца назад
He didn't choose to bump, he tried to charge down the kick
@Ars3x1c029
@Ars3x1c029 Месяц назад
@@tsherwood2112yes he did
@bbrodriguez420
@bbrodriguez420 7 месяцев назад
Craig Bolton using tunneling to stop Nick Riewoldt around 2008ish, which started the discussion about whether it should be banned.
@shaggyirl
@shaggyirl 7 месяцев назад
The Maynard incident how can you not have contact with the player when you are mid air I’d like to see the people who make the rules change direction when they’re mid air and miss the person completely
@mattduin7144
@mattduin7144 7 месяцев назад
Apparently Maynard is a malaysia airways plane and can change direction mid-flight
@Code_breaker_
@Code_breaker_ 7 месяцев назад
🏈🏈🏈 I can remember the "Joel Selwoood Shrug" ( Ducking into tackles )... Lean towards the tackler, lower your body / bend your knees, lift your arm when tackled to force tackler's arm towards your neck and get the free kick for the high tackle. 19 02 2024
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
yeah everyone remembers it
@alansimmonds9030
@alansimmonds9030 7 месяцев назад
Exactly how many troll accounts do you have son?
@StKilda1966
@StKilda1966 7 месяцев назад
@@alansimmonds9030he’s got over 100 alts, this is the channel that makes them and he is one of the worst RU-vidrs in the world. So it’s best to ignore him and block him, he wants attention
@leighwintershoven971
@leighwintershoven971 7 месяцев назад
It was actually a technique to shrug the tackle which often actually disadvantaged Selwood as he was called back to take his free kick when he'd already cleared the tackle and had got rid of the ball. It also got to the ridiculous stage when Selwood was legitimately tackled high when he was getting up after winning a contested possession and commentators would claim he had ducked into it.
@alansimmonds9030
@alansimmonds9030 7 месяцев назад
@@leighwintershoven971 No matter what way you try to spin it, he'll always be remembered as 'Duck-Wood'.
@WINston_Binstonson
@WINston_Binstonson 6 месяцев назад
Wish the ball could go ping off the post and back in, and they play on. Lik if you agree
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 6 месяцев назад
not sure about that
@WINston_Binstonson
@WINston_Binstonson 6 месяцев назад
I think they tried it in a pre-season series back in the day@@Kaleen_YT
@mikewazowski8368
@mikewazowski8368 7 месяцев назад
I'm a Hawks supporter and the Maynard thing is a joke. AFL has lost its mind. They had it right at the beginning of 2023 when they punished the action NOT the outcome, then about a third of the way into the season they backflipped and started penalising outcome...as usual. So stupid.
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
definitely better to punish the action
@pietervanderhorst2529
@pietervanderhorst2529 7 месяцев назад
I thought the match review officer suggest no charge or man on Maynard. But the AFL themselves said they would try and suspend him
@rubiksmath7938
@rubiksmath7938 7 месяцев назад
I thought that ducking was always not a free kick - at least when I was introduced to footy in 2014 or so I was told that ducking meant no high contact free kick
@jordipluto100
@jordipluto100 7 месяцев назад
You missed Joel Bowden forcing the deliberate rushed behind rule
@axlr.
@axlr. 6 месяцев назад
That poor trainer at 5:01
@AFLDerby
@AFLDerby 7 месяцев назад
Great vid man keep up the work !!
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
Appreciate it
@markrobertson2301
@markrobertson2301 7 месяцев назад
Couple of rule changing incidents that you missed; David Mackay bump on Hunter Clarke R13 2021 Ben Keays denied goal R23 2023
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
good examples
@matekendes7371
@matekendes7371 4 месяца назад
I think a new ryle would be of your within 10 meters of a player you can do a rushed behind if not free kick to other
@matekendes7371
@matekendes7371 4 месяца назад
Team
@fredbloggs8362
@fredbloggs8362 7 месяцев назад
The third man up rule was changed because a player received a chest injury from the extra man leaping in. The tactic was never considered ‘unfair’ by clubs and was a great way to open up play. Do your fkn research.
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
ok
@gordonfreeman7187
@gordonfreeman7187 7 месяцев назад
Dork over here whinging about a youtube video.
@Brock90
@Brock90 5 месяцев назад
People might disagree with me on this one, but i think they should get rid of the stand rule, i just think its rubbish and it feels like it slows the game down alot
@tommygloufchev7798
@tommygloufchev7798 7 месяцев назад
Yo Kaleen do u reckon the Maynard incident was on purpose?
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
no
@harrygrosomanidis9699
@harrygrosomanidis9699 7 месяцев назад
Selwood got away with ducking for his entire career, AFL should have nipped it in the bud back then , Blind Freddie could see what he was getting away with.
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
yeah that's what I always thought
@harrygrosomanidis9699
@harrygrosomanidis9699 7 месяцев назад
@@Kaleen_YT Selwood is still a champion of the game
@alansimmonds9030
@alansimmonds9030 7 месяцев назад
@@harrygrosomanidis9699 Who'll be forever remembered as Duck-wood.
@Apersonwholikespandaslol
@Apersonwholikespandaslol 7 месяцев назад
I’m a Pies supporter, I thought that Maynard would get a massive fine and a two game suspension, I was angry at Bruzzy but I could still see his side, after all, he’s an awesome bloke
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
definitely not intentional
@keraptisblackrazor2658
@keraptisblackrazor2658 7 месяцев назад
no, but it was careless and he should have been suspended; Careless, high contact, high impact that's two weeks by the grading system. If launching yourself in the air toward an approaching player, thereby losing any opportunity to move or alter direction isn't careless, then nothing is..@@Kaleen_YT
@stevepapas9563
@stevepapas9563 7 месяцев назад
If it was Toby green or James Sicily they would have got 5 weeks
@Ray-bq6wx
@Ray-bq6wx 7 месяцев назад
Players trying to exploit the afl rules should get a minimum 5 match ban and club should get a decent fine, in my opinion if players knock out other players from a brutal dog shot should get a minimum 10 match ban or whole season ban too teach them a lesson, once the players see this it will make players think twice about dog shotting another player, the afl is way too soft on enforcing their rules especially against victorian teams.
@cantbegood7
@cantbegood7 7 месяцев назад
Your delusional Vic hater.
@lukeslayer
@lukeslayer 7 месяцев назад
The "Victorian bias" is all in your head. Look at the stats.
@Eddiethedeessuporter
@Eddiethedeessuporter 7 месяцев назад
One rule I think should be a thing must be Collingwood only getting behinds
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
Sounds good
@24kCringe
@24kCringe 7 месяцев назад
W ❤
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
W comment
@GRAFFITI_TAG_TEN.
@GRAFFITI_TAG_TEN. 7 месяцев назад
✔ Cool video. ✔ 19 02 2024
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
Glad you found it cool
@markuswilmes3694
@markuswilmes3694 7 месяцев назад
And Maynard’s a dog
@splat_xand
@splat_xand 7 месяцев назад
And why is he? If you were in the same scenario what would you do?
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
We all have our own opinions
@stevepapas9563
@stevepapas9563 7 месяцев назад
I’m not a Collingwood fan but I don’t mind Maynard Should have copped 2 weeks though if the rest of the year was anything to go by Have a look at what James Sicily got 3 weeks for (absolutely disgraceful)
@petrashevskycircle
@petrashevskycircle 7 месяцев назад
dane swan was a big reason for the sub rule which has turned into the interchange cap. In the pies 2010 flag year there weren't a cap on rotations and swan came on and off every 6 minutes or so to freshen up and break a tag. The AFL got wise to it the next year and introduced the sub rule in 2011 to limit player rotations.
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
Interesting facts
@Shmalf
@Shmalf 7 месяцев назад
Maynard should’ve been found guilty, it’s a load of BS
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
it's a debatable topic, the reason it was so controversial
@markuswilmes3694
@markuswilmes3694 7 месяцев назад
Joel Selwood was the reason
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
I don’t think so
@alansimmonds9030
@alansimmonds9030 7 месяцев назад
@@Kaleen_YT He was the serial offender who got away with it for 15 years, thanks to aFL & umpiring incompetence.....Hence why all the other players followed....You're 100% incorrect.
@alansimmonds9030
@alansimmonds9030 7 месяцев назад
Yep....100%
@leachy952
@leachy952 7 месяцев назад
I’m a Geelong supporter but I know for sure Selwood was the reason, or at least first known for it. Ginnivan I feel abused it every time he was tackled so that’s why the change was necessary. They had enough of Selwood doing it and didn’t want young players making it a habit.
@markuswilmes3694
@markuswilmes3694 7 месяцев назад
True story brother
@stevepapas9563
@stevepapas9563 7 месяцев назад
Should have stopped the king of ducking Selwood and it would not still be in the game today But unsurprisingly umpires love Geelong and given them the rub of the green for almost 20 years
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
true
@pbfamous07
@pbfamous07 7 месяцев назад
maynard is a dog. he led with shoulder
@sentimentalbloke185
@sentimentalbloke185 7 месяцев назад
Kevin Bartlett forced a rule change back in the '70s with his technique of throwing the ball out in front of himself a split second before being tackled in an attempt to draw a free for holding the man. He wasn't the only guy that did it, but he was the best at it. He was pretending to bounce the ball but threw it down at an angle that ensured it wouldn't bounce back into his possession. Strict umpires would pay him the free but some umps called play on, so he learned which ump he could do it in front of. It was an exploitation of the vagueness of the rules, so it was changed to explicitly state a player had to kick or handball when tackled. It didn't impact Bartlett as he adjusted his game & went on to be the first player to 400 games. It's worth noting that, in that era, umpires usually tended to favour the man in possession, making the play. Anything dodgy about a tackle was penalised in favour of the man in possession. That is, a tackle had to be close to perfect to be rewarded with holding the ball.
@leighwintershoven971
@leighwintershoven971 7 месяцев назад
Ginnivan was more like Paul Puopolo who would actually sense he was about to get tackled and dropped down so the tackle would go high. Selwood shrugged his shoulder when he got tackled as a technique to break free of the tackle and move the ball on- some of the time to his detriment as it actually held up play when the umpire called the ball back.
@TimForzaTorinoF95Ole
@TimForzaTorinoF95Ole 6 месяцев назад
They should have changed the ducking rule because of Selwood but the most overrated captain and player in AFL history was a protected species. Funny they changed the rule just as Selwood was retiring
@halcyonpalaver5985
@halcyonpalaver5985 6 месяцев назад
The standing still on the mark should be changned I recon
@whatlez
@whatlez 7 месяцев назад
Third man up rule was definitely because of Blicavs and him abusing it. Jordan Lewis and Jarryd Roughead did do it a bit during their flags, but the AFL didn't really think it did much until Blicavs came around.
@JaydenLomeda519
@JaydenLomeda519 7 месяцев назад
Controversies and cheating can cause rule changes.
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
absolutely
@METRO_NINE_BLUEPRINT
@METRO_NINE_BLUEPRINT 7 месяцев назад
🏈🏈🏈 As a Hawks supporter, it honestly still is in my mind in disbelief that Hawks coach Sam Mitchell recruited Jack Ginnivan. Ginnivan is: ( 1 ) A serial cheat by ducking into tackles. ( 2 ) A recovering drug addict. ( 3 ) A clown that went out to the racetrack the night before playing in the 2023 Grand Final. 19 02 2024
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
unlucky
@alansimmonds9030
@alansimmonds9030 7 месяцев назад
We both know you ain't a Hawks supporter....you're a Sydney supporting troll son.
@sam47511
@sam47511 7 месяцев назад
Ross Lyon 666 rule
@alex98b627
@alex98b627 6 месяцев назад
I felt like I was taking crazy pills throughout Joel Selwood’s career. Still cannot understand why it wasn’t changed back then. Look how many games he played with strapped head - surely he’s a candidate for brain injuries later in life. And with the AFL incentivising him to do it by paying frees, they will be fully responsible for his injuries.
@GlimbosGoldd
@GlimbosGoldd 6 месяцев назад
I think ducking should be a free for the other team at the moment, the amount of players still trying to take advantage over it is insane and I'd love to see it almost completely gone
@AndyTheRoo
@AndyTheRoo 7 месяцев назад
Was the ducking/dropping the shoulder rule directed at Ginnivan, or does the AFL have favourites? Answer: Both. See how many high free kicks NIck Daicos got in the 2023 grand final from dropping the shoulder/knees (and like you said, Selwood)
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
glad you agree
@dostap7748
@dostap7748 7 месяцев назад
Not a player, but a team. Hawks vs Cats GF 2008 - Hawks rushed 11 behinds to get more time. 2009 the AFL changed to the deliberately rushed behind requiring immediate pressure
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
covered in part 1
@adamkorin5863
@adamkorin5863 7 месяцев назад
Of interest is that several felt that Hawthorn couldn't win premierships without rushing behinds. They put pen to paper to that theory in 2013-2015
@stevepapas9563
@stevepapas9563 7 месяцев назад
@@adamkorin5863that was just cry baby Geelong supporters who never look at Selwood making a career off ducking
@driver4496x
@driver4496x 7 месяцев назад
@@stevepapas9563Made a career off winning flags 🏆🏆🏆🏆
@stevepapas9563
@stevepapas9563 7 месяцев назад
@@driver4496x hawthorn supporter mate I have been alive for 5 flags in 9 years as a child and another 4 in 8 years as an adult and guess what? None of those flags was from players ducking like gabe itches to win free kicks. Selwood was a blight on the game
@Zelmazam1
@Zelmazam1 7 месяцев назад
A move so dangerous? A punch to the jaw off the ball?
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
what do you mean?
@Zelmazam1
@Zelmazam1 7 месяцев назад
@@Kaleen_YT in your intro you say a player did a move so dangerous, while it's playing the gaff punch on brayshaw
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
@@Zelmazam1 the dangerous move was maynard's bump, just didn't want to spoil it
@Zelmazam1
@Zelmazam1 7 месяцев назад
@@Kaleen_YT ahhh I see
@hotkeyafl
@hotkeyafl 7 месяцев назад
Harbrow's hit on Lewis was fisting the ball away, not a bump in that case.
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
yeah, just looked like a bump
@AfleditsLucas
@AfleditsLucas 6 месяцев назад
no offence to Collingwood fans but Maynard didn't give Brayshaw an injury he ended his career like he worked so fucking hard for this like tf
@baldbd64
@baldbd64 6 месяцев назад
Brayshaw's career was obviously only hanging by a thread if that is the case. It was a football action. Brayshaw made absolutely no attempt to protect himself, but rather absorbed all of the contact. You can blame footy's false masculinity idealism for that. (appearing "weak" if reacting/bracing to incoming contact)
@lennydowntown9376
@lennydowntown9376 15 дней назад
Suspensions these days are STUPID! The AFL should NOT base suspensions on the outcome.
@Cookingwithcaitlin
@Cookingwithcaitlin 28 дней назад
I habe a question whats you're favourite team/teams and your least favourite team/teams
@Wingyy1995
@Wingyy1995 Месяц назад
so much for umpires not paying deliberate ducks... have seen so many in the last two rounds
@alansimmonds9030
@alansimmonds9030 7 месяцев назад
Joel Selwood ducked & cheated for 15 years....Being rewarded for it & getting the most free kicks in history for it into the bargain.....The aFL then move to stop it only after he retires....Makes a total mockery of the competition!
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
facts
@lesnish226
@lesnish226 7 месяцев назад
I'm a North supporter, and this is bullshit. Learn to tackle lower, don't blame a guy because they use the rules to their own advantage.
@alansimmonds9030
@alansimmonds9030 7 месяцев назад
@@lesnish226 He caused the high contact himself via his own actions....Therefore it's either play -on or holding the ball....simple.
@Lucasonsports
@Lucasonsports 4 дня назад
@@lesnish226 Thanks
@baldbd64
@baldbd64 6 месяцев назад
Marcus Bontempelli's use of the third man up rule got the rule changed. It's a big reason why the Dogs won the flag that year.
@lennydowntown9376
@lennydowntown9376 15 дней назад
Dogs won flag coz the umpires HATE Sydney!
@robery4008
@robery4008 7 месяцев назад
Lloyd didn't kick 700 goals because he took a few extra seconds. He kicked them cause he's a legend
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
true, but i was just saying for 700 of them he took extra time
@bloxsgaming6741
@bloxsgaming6741 2 месяца назад
As a Melbourne pan I am absolutely disgusted that Maynard got off
@lucyhaaa
@lucyhaaa 5 месяцев назад
afl needs to start giving pickett more than 1 match bans, hes a repeat offender
@savageduck4487
@savageduck4487 3 месяца назад
Matthew Primus at throw ins was one
@ZacThaBarber
@ZacThaBarber Месяц назад
Maynard the flog
@GoobyBean
@GoobyBean 5 месяцев назад
The stand rule needs to go
@LucUltraRWB
@LucUltraRWB 7 месяцев назад
Love the vids
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
Thanks as always
@themetroboy22
@themetroboy22 7 месяцев назад
Maynard is actually really nice, after he said sorry and went to his house to have a chat
@TheTJASTA
@TheTJASTA 7 месяцев назад
he is a prick
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
i'm sure he is, not hating on the guy
@AFLguru63
@AFLguru63 7 месяцев назад
Great vid Kaleen 👍
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
I appreciate your kind words
@nkelly.9
@nkelly.9 6 месяцев назад
If maynerd was bearing down on a collingwood player he would have avoided contact. He wasn't and he put his shoulder in to Brayshaw. He had to be rubbed out. If I was Brayshaw I would be suing maynerd for loss of earnings.
@tsherwood2112
@tsherwood2112 3 месяца назад
How could he have pulled out? He was airborne. Idiot 😂
@CaptainQuoll
@CaptainQuoll 7 месяцев назад
Ginnivan doesn’t duck he raises his arm
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
questionable
@klokar21
@klokar21 7 месяцев назад
Joel Selwood has won the most courageous player award more than any other player since its creation, Joel Selwood has the most tackles and the most clearances of any player to ever play the game. Getting clearances is the most tackled aspect of the game, he may have thrown up a few elbows to score a free kick, but only the most delusional supporters would argue that Selwood never played hard and earned allot of his free kicks driving head first through players. This is stark contrast to Jack who never even tried to get rid of the ball that year, diving into players to try and get his head ripped off rather than trying to break a tackle, which Selwood ranks 4th in all time behind Gary Ablett jnr, Patrick Dangerfield and Dustin Martin in tackles broken.
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
valid points
@alansimmonds9030
@alansimmonds9030 7 месяцев назад
He dropped the knees & raised his elbow to cause the high contact himself.....Everyone knows it was a joke except for the aFL & the umpires - or so it seems.
@stevepapas9563
@stevepapas9563 7 месяцев назад
Joel Selwood got twice as many frees as the second most free kick player almost every year If the afl and umpires weren’t so dumb and bias they would have taken it out of the game years ago
@alansimmonds9030
@alansimmonds9030 7 месяцев назад
@@stevepapas9563 Correct...Which is why all the other players started copying him....Because they see he got rewarded for his ducking, cheating ways; & now it's become a plague & blight on our game because of him.
@alansimmonds9030
@alansimmonds9030 7 месяцев назад
Sure, tough player....But still a ducking, shrugging, leg-dropping cheat & a blight/ stain on our game. With the aFL & umpires being utterly complicit.
@mrdiamond365_
@mrdiamond365_ 7 месяцев назад
Maynard is not in the wrong. He went to smother the ball aggressively because it's the finals. You can't expect them to play finals and not play finals level footy. He turned away from Brayshaw so he didn't clobber him. Brayshaw also veered right after his kick as that's his kicking style.
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
i don't think he's in the wrong either
@hotkeyafl
@hotkeyafl 7 месяцев назад
Still think the Ginnivan rule is garbage. As far as I'm concerned the tackler has to be obligated to tackle correctly. Ducking is a tactic by the ball carrier to evade the tackle. If tackled correctly then holding the ball, otherwise should be a high tackle. Great video
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
thanks, and I personally think it's a fair rule
@stevepapas9563
@stevepapas9563 7 месяцев назад
Not in the spirit of the game and should have been stamped out whilst Selwood was making a career of being a ducking cheat
@dan_the_man18
@dan_the_man18 7 месяцев назад
Well in my option Maynard was protecting himself, by electing to bump this was a unlucky incident
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
Yeah I think it was 50/50
@stevepapas9563
@stevepapas9563 7 месяцев назад
If it wasn’t a final and round 10 it would have been 3 weeks If it was Toby green or James Sicily 5 weeks
@Grazbestclips
@Grazbestclips 7 месяцев назад
@Kaleen_YT
@Kaleen_YT 7 месяцев назад
no way
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