After Four Years, Project M is Changing

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The official Project Plus Twitter account confirmed last month that a new patch was coming soon for the premier Super Smash Bros. fan mod. This quick, semi-unscripted video by Tuck takes a look back over the past 4 years of P+ 2.0, briefly examining some of the most dominant and noteworthy characters in the meta - ones to keep an eye on for changes when this patch drops.
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0:00 Intro
0:36 The risers to the top
4:55 The biggest buffs
7:55 Nerfs can’t stop these characters
10:25 Characters we stopped seeing
12:33 Outro
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26 июн 2024

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@ordeosca 8 дней назад

it's insane that my whole lifespan of playing this game has been on one patch, excited for what the future holds!

@SaltInYourEye_ICs 8 дней назад

There nuking ICs. It’s like would war three for us ICs sweats. 😭😭😭, exited for ICs new stuff

@Nin10doh98 8 дней назад

My only real concern with P+ going forward is the stages. Because good god did some of y'all choose real stinkers that are way too boring and overall not enough variety.

@theespicypotato 8 дней назад

I second this, stagelist variety was one of the most compelling reasons for me to quit ult and switch to this

@xtinaxendrix 8 дней назад

fr smashville is so boring legalize rainbow cruise

@exclamation744 8 дней назад

Wait, you don't love a stage list of basically just two-plat stages? Everyone at the top level does!

@vwtdi1579 8 дней назад

Wario-ware and green hill are great stages. Maybe adjust the blastzones on those 2, but I would also add Pokemon transformations (keeping frozen too) because big melee tournaments have it too.

@Nin10doh98 8 дней назад

@@exclamation744 King Boo ain’t cooking shit

@purcellworthman3199 8 дней назад

it sure would be cool if they FINALLY got around to finishing Lyn!

@runaway74 7 дней назад

I was thinking this!!

@illford6921 7 дней назад

Not happening they said multiple times on the FAQ page that outside of Knuckles no one is getting added

@bkebradley 6 дней назад

Super lame they aren't doing Isaac either

@RockyTheThird 6 дней назад

@@bkebradley A lot of problems comes from people relying solely on Project+ for those characters. I've talked with PMDT and P+ devs about the rest of the forbidden 4 but it ultimately comes down to "they don't have the resources/time and aren't interested". Which is fine, P+ has benefited the game in way more ways than just characters. When it comes to Isaac, Lyn, and Sami legit all is needed are people to volunteer to help work on them. I've spent the last 5+ years studying the game and modeling software with the goal of completing the cast and I do a pretty dang good job contributing. Would highly recommend channeling that energy into motivation

@freddiesimmons1394 4 дня назад

@@bkebradleywhole new characters take enormous amounts of work. Isaac was super duper weird though and i would have liked to see it

@kylecarlon6800 8 дней назад

I was sad I kept getting bodied in the clips but you had my dope ass combo on Zoey so it’s redeemed :)

@pkzStar 8 дней назад

happy birthday man 🎉

@kylecarlon6800 8 дней назад

@@pkzStar thank u for ur service 🫡

@CannibalSerb 8 дней назад

You leaving was content creator's worst nightmare, wolf is such a good combo video character

@kylecarlon6800 8 дней назад

@@CannibalSerb I will stick to my 3ish events per year and do my part 🫡

@Hack--rz1io 8 дней назад

@@kylecarlon6800 That's awesome man ♡

@_fudgepop01 8 дней назад

> it's unknown whether PNT is able to be fixed... haha yeahhhh I still occasionally feel bad about my last attempt at doing so giving nana a lobotomy LMAO

@Hope4NewDay1 7 дней назад

Fudge you already know what you have to do the real question is... Are you willing to do it?

@echospace7347 7 дней назад

Cool content btw!

@zKenshi 2 дня назад

It got patched out based on patch notes. “PNT C-stick and buffered methods removed”

@_fudgepop01 22 часа назад

@@zKenshi I know (and knew as a dev team member ahahah) - it's best to allow for speculation so I didn't say whether or not it IS GOING TO BE fixed!~ But tbh this proper fix wasn't done by me, but instead by some other team members :D

@zKenshi 22 часа назад

@@_fudgepop01 Pretty cool. Just randomly curious, how come 4 years between the updates? Grouping the progress altogether or all took a break? Either way, outstanding job!

@bbatts523 7 дней назад

You had to use that Ganon clip....didn't you....

@TheCrayonStealer1 2 дня назад

steven universe head ass

@EclipseKirby 8 дней назад

This brings me back. I retired from this game forever ago and haven't payed much attention to PM/P+ in quite a while, but it's cool to see how things have changed since I played. Maybe I'll get back into it

@echospace7347 7 дней назад

I’m going to start playing as a result of this video and honestly I’d advise you do so too!

@GetOffMyLog 6 дней назад

I've been playing exclusively melee since the pandemic and I just got back into P+ three weeks ago and I'm have SO MUCH FUN. I'm trash rn and trying to learn a new character and I'm still having a great time

@ShinyGBZ 7 дней назад

haven't played or seen a peach in my whole life in this game and learning she has an aerial down b command grab was so fucking cool, and hearing it sucks complete ass because it's a hitgrab and loses to shield is hilarious

@neilssbm 8 дней назад

poor bbatts he looked so flustered by that ganon uptilt

@borkbork9541 7 дней назад

Meta aside, I'm looking forward to any and all surprises they might have in store

@vwtdi1579 8 дней назад

Morsecode has consistently won or placed high and samus is considerd mid-low tier. Outside of balance changes, i just want a better stagelist that will be comitted too. I dont want such drastic regional differences unless its for side events.

@mawwwkWI 7 дней назад

great recap of the last 4 years and one of the best P+ content pieces i've seen. nice work 🙂

@echospace7347 7 дней назад

I’m gonna play because of it this looks so cool

@HasXXXInCrocs 8 дней назад

Rollback when???

@GregInTechnicolor День назад

soon my son... big moves have already been made.

@WombatFights 7 дней назад

An extra bit of info for Squirtle: the hitbox and range of water gun were also buffed. That move was practically unusable in 3.6

@EastCoastBaja 8 дней назад

I love Zubat, but I still think there's room for Yoshi to grow with or without nerfs to everyone that *needs* them LOL hopefully I'll get out to more stuff or at least get back into the lab to help develop the dino some more. Great video!

@xtinaxendrix 8 дней назад

3.0 patch predictions (watch this spot!) -peach float duration reduced to 1 second -peach dash attack strong hitbox removed -peach neutral air startup 3f -> 5f -kirby aerial hammer invulnerable for first 6 frames

@_fudgepop01 22 часа назад

Nope! Peach's buffs were just her DSpecial, and kirby got tweaked in other ways

@SoulOfficer 7 дней назад

great video henry, your narration is very nice and the structure of this video ruled :3

@_Majunior 7 дней назад

Very nice video. I have no knowledge on the p+ meta whatsoever do this was pretty interesting

@DelanHaar6 7 дней назад

Looking forward to what changes may come!

@patrickrolens 8 дней назад

👏NERF👏TOON👏LINK👏

@joeyfighting 8 дней назад

HES SPITTINGGGG

@jakeupl8615 7 дней назад

HES SHITTINGGG

@jedisquidward 7 дней назад

It's sad to say I'm not nearly as familiar with P+ as I am with PM 3.6, but it's great to see it continue to be a game full of wackiness and creativity. It's nice to see the most meta-relevant characters be such out-there ones that you wouldn't typically think of.

@ErazerPhazer 3 дня назад

Man this game has gone through so much since 2014...

@369destroyer 4 дня назад

I wonder if anyone remembera that Sami was planned for Project M alongside Knuckles, Lyn, and Isaac

@fingerstripespm 8 дней назад

Fantastic video tuck!

@Matanumi 8 дней назад

better be damn careful- nerf enough of the game and you will split the already small fanbase. people react worse to nerfs then they do parsing buffs.

@yourdagan 6 дней назад

I stopped playing when P+ nerfed certain characters instead of buffing others. Removing the bayonet hitbox was just unacceptably ridiculous.

@freddiesimmons1394 4 дня назад

@@yourdaganwhat a baby Finding the appropriate place to balance is more important than keeping your widdle feelings coddled. Wolf is still amazing. High tiers don't need that kind of privilege

@freddiesimmons1394 4 дня назад

People reacting worse to nerfs hamstrung PM development and kept them from just making the best game possible

@hydra4370 7 дней назад

Can we just stop for a second and think about how we got minecraft but not another sonic character 💀

@Supersonic37838 7 дней назад

Or how we got another xenoblade character or a FF character?

@Brob2nd 3 дня назад

Xenoblade only had *1* character tho

@Supersonic37838 3 дня назад

@@Brob2nd Shulk, Pythra

@Brob2nd 3 дня назад

@@Supersonic37838 i said 'had' for a reason, now it's 3 Xenoblade characters, which i think is enough Xenoblade characters, Sonic still deserves more characters tho

@Supersonic37838 3 дня назад

@@Brob2nd Dang I’m a dragon ball fan and it’s true, Yeah sonic deserves more justice man. Also happy Sonic’s 33th anniversary.

@CassiusStelar 7 дней назад

I'm probably the only person in the world to use this mod for single player, I just hope they fix subspace Emissary, it soft locks after that one Diddy Kong and Fox stage

@fl0wm0ti0n3 6 дней назад

I’m not 100% sure but I think they fixed it in the last update

@superflameking03 4 дня назад

Anyone think there's any chance of seeing completely new content in this next update (like new stages or characters)? Chances might be low, but it could be fun tho. That's a great way to make sure everyone's talking about it.

@cloudstrife5175 2 дня назад

Really hope that if P+ ever gets a 3.0 version Lyn gets added!

@TheDomlax 8 дней назад

Amazing video as aways

@Shadowhawke75 8 дней назад

GREAT VIDEOO

@alphachillua8228 8 дней назад

got recced this vid and as an ike main hearing that hes actually good somewhere... i may have to play this game now

@_fudgepop01 7 дней назад

If you need a mod for the CPUs that adds custom smart behavior and the like hit me up - ShinyZubat (the Yoshi main mentioned) can vouch for it!~

@griffendesai2039 2 дня назад

He’s so fucking sick in p+. It’ll ruin every other smash game for you.

@Hope4NewDay1 8 дней назад

AYE SHOUTOUTS TO ANTHER. FREE THE HOMIE!

@echospace7347 7 дней назад

I’m gonna start playing this game. This looks SOOO fun

@Roanoke884 8 дней назад

HFR

@echospace7347 7 дней назад

Wow!

@jpc7795 2 дня назад

The bounty is still up for a slippi like online platform for this game. SOMEBODY PLEASE GET ON IT.

@javi994 День назад

They’ve been on it for the last 2 years

@laneuwu1660 6 дней назад

0:58 thats my local!

@hassoncarmon5779 2 дня назад

I just want meta knight's side special and neutral special to have more combo capabilities.

@esoteric7990 5 дней назад

I actually really dislike the attack to tilt stick change P+ did It was a big part of my neutral game with Bowser able to do instant crouch cancel jabs out of run as well as mixups on contact

@DrunkenHotei 5 дней назад

This is great and all, but what I'm really chomping at the bit for is brawlback.

@okcool9898 7 дней назад

I think that P+ will only blow up when it receives Rollback plus Ingame Matchmaking. I am from europe and i have the impression that outside of the US there aint really a community for this mod. I like it a lot tough

@DIce_PPlus 6 дней назад

I really wish the stagelist could be unified, and NOT be the Midwest stagelist. Honestly loved PMBR and would take that every single day of the week over Midwest rn lol

@DIce_PPlus 6 дней назад

Ik a new patch won’t just “solve” this, but I wish we could just go back/allow for stages to not just be middle 3

@johnleecooper8520 7 дней назад

yall you can cc uptilt without tilt stick it is so free

@Freeraining-og7uh 2 дня назад

My recommendation is you should make Falco not a full clone like fox and give him back his original special reflect he had in brawl.

@javi994 День назад

That move was trash 😂

@Kushina-43 6 дней назад

Aw no mention of bowser? I haven't really played P+ and I really should soon, but seeing him in low B is really nice

@JoeSmith-db4rq 7 дней назад

Ok but where my Zelda buffs at though!!!

@exxitzero 7 дней назад

Dear Project+ Dev Team: -Please buff Luigi and Dedede that is all

@theoldfashionedgamerguy665 7 дней назад

Add Lyn while we're at it

@Jaytheone369 6 дней назад

If they nerf sonic in quitting

@AllBladesCut 7 дней назад

Rip sonic Again

@loganmadface5425 8 дней назад

I have never played P Plus before, does it have rollback?

@pi2z806 8 дней назад

Not yet but it's in development

@YangyChaddyDad 8 дней назад

@@pi2z806as soon as it's released I'm there

@Nin10doh98 8 дней назад

I’d say it’s now a matter of “when” rather than “if”, so keep an ear out for Brawlback and/or WhiteTPoison updates. I’m thinking/hoping either towards the end of the year or maybe beginning of next year.

@DreamcastSoup 7 дней назад

@@pi2z806is this by the team itself?

@echospace7347 7 дней назад

It still has great internet so I’m going to play it

@YURTZYN42 5 дней назад

my friends keep telling me to get into P+ and I think its great, but it keeps updating and going through patches. I like getting into a game after it stops updating so I can make the most sense of it and so that my muscle memory doesn't betray me later on as the game ages. Until then I'll just keep watching this game be played.

@javi994 День назад

This is the first major balance patch for the game in like 4 years The other patches were mostly bug fixes and cosmetic changes

@ilikepizza107 7 дней назад

Fire video big dog

@LylatKnight 7 дней назад

I hope overall performance is improved. This sucker crashed on me if I did so little as look at my Wii funny.

@illford6921 2 дня назад

They did indeed fix PNT

@miguelsi7543 8 дней назад

👀

@tracystallworth1239 День назад

Ah shit here we go again

@miiguel3550 6 дней назад

If they finished Isaac my life would be complete

@leelandjamison7598 3 дня назад

Based video

@DrCoeloCephalo 7 дней назад

My favorite is Wario. Glad he is still good. I sincerely hope Jigglypuff gets more to work with so she us not just a worse Wario. I also hope that they plan on adding more new characters and if that ends up being the case, I sincerely hope Waluigi comes next. The custom Waluigi movesets have come such a long way.

@Knuxsega 8 дней назад

Commenting for the algorithm

@mrh1324 6 дней назад

I wonder if they will make dedede good

@javi994 День назад

Everyone’s good 😂

@ChamAramis 7 дней назад

After four years, *Project Plus** is changing.

@javi994 День назад

They’ve been releasing updates for those 4 years

@michaellee7630 День назад

its out

@Padthai_Shrimp День назад

Comeon roll back

@protocetid 7 часов назад

it’s coming, just not soon

@herbmaaster 3 дня назад

where is LYN?

@Cherrynasb 8 дней назад

Holy freak I'm ready WOO STANG0

@Mech-HDR День назад

3.0 is here and it hasn't really changed but knuckles can't kill as early and luigi buffs :(

@Brob2nd День назад

Wdym with luigi buffs

@Bizzone_ 3 дня назад

Yeah, idc i always come back to the project m community 🤝

@t3amtomahawk 5 дней назад

Standing by for Dedede nerfs Kappa

@sauzeefy 7 дней назад

no ICs nerf pls

@kevinascate1281 8 дней назад

DDD could easily move up 10 spots up the tier list if a top player learned his proper combos and entered majors with him.

@isucc724 7 дней назад

why does it always have to be someone else instead of yknow, you? if you really think he can go that high up, you might as well prove it

@Basement_Ckickn 8 дней назад

somehow i’m not surprised that a fan mod of brawl that hasn’t seen updates for 4 years has a better competitive state than the Nintendo-liscenced ultimate, with balance patches for 2 years and frequent content updates and DLCs.

@dragnjames2190 7 дней назад

The Ult balance team doesn't have all the time in the world that the most popular fan modded version of Brawl devs have. PM has been worked on, patched and maintained by the balance team through multiple iterations since the first PM demo in fucking 2011. In contrast, the Ult dev team has a time limit on their projects and have to move on to bigger and better projects. After Sora's release, the balancing team dissolved and went to work on Tekken 8. They can't keep working on Ult forever.

@Andycandyman24 7 дней назад

@@dragnjames2190 agreed although i wish they colud work on Ult forever.

@echospace7347 7 дней назад

@@dragnjames2190Tekken 8?!

@akumoth8357 7 дней назад

gib dedede buffs

@seanboglio3605 2 дня назад

samanthude

@StarWalker-si4nm 7 дней назад

I hope knuckles does not get nerfed I fucking love that Knuckles is good 😂

@freddiesimmons1394 4 дня назад

Being weakness-less and having top tier strengths on top of that is not good character design

@javi994 День назад

@@freddiesimmons1394sounds like 3.02 😂

@freddiesimmons1394 День назад

@@javi994 rip broken ass sonic etc

@Nadamoor 7 дней назад

Give Kirby his 64 uptilt. Do it you cowards

@Heyim18bro 6 дней назад

buff pikachu and i'll be happy

@lilCork100 7 дней назад

@gbpstudios 8 дней назад

Can we get waluigi?

@DreamcastSoup 7 дней назад

Look up project m remix, he's in that

@gbpstudios 7 дней назад

@@DreamcastSoup I know but it would be cool if he was in an official build

@jiyucy 5 дней назад

buff Luigi

@glenc0 8 дней назад

Give me Lyn please let me cheat with a dlc character.

@DreamcastSoup 7 дней назад

Knuckles, he's op

@glenc0 7 дней назад

@@DreamcastSoup yeah but he's cringe. Gimme something I can work with

@BronzeAgePepper 5 дней назад

Pikmon is just crazy good. Not sure if he still does but I know at one point he lived in this pretty secluded part of Washington state, I lived nearby and would see him whenever I went to locals back in the PM 3.6 and Sm4sh years. I could never work up the nerve to ask if he wanted to hang out and practice 1-on-1, but he probably would've said no, not out of meanness but just because the dude is just on a whole other level I couldn't come close to. Been so many years since I ever saw him after I left the state, and he's only made even more of a name for himself since.