After realization is there still an interest in personal growth? - Rupert Spira 

Pure love. Thank you Rupert.

i was that woman and you are absolved, daddy spira!

Absolutely loved this video. Thank you so much for this valuable information. Lots of love from an Australian 🇦🇺❤

Beautiful!

Yes, indeed. There is an endless development. Just to make it clear, my critique on meditation is not towards people who are highly realized and use meditation to go deeper on their exploration. My critique is about the so-called 'spiritual practices' that for the vast majority of people have the same effect as taking a Pilates or Yoga class at the gym.

Yes Rupert is assisting me to clear seeing...so much screwie ideas in the spiritual realm...including nondual...but here I'm truely becoming,travelling in stillness, understanding....Why sooth a self that is not? who is suffering? for whom is this thought arising?Kay La

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Japa, mantra, repetition, prayer are acts of concentration and disciplining the mind. Possibly it has no business in the direct path of awareness but those former practices certainly have a function in lessening distractions and keeping a powerful focused mind that is more useful and less cluttered. As the unfettered self, a razor sharp mind is also very useful and a finer instrument. Unfortunately, even though we are the infinite self, mind, body, emotions must still be guided, directed and cultivated in this lifetime. Rupert practiced many disciplines. He once recommended the "Hail Mary" prayer as a good prayer. Many souls who have fortunately realized the Self in this lifetime have practiced countless disciplines with countless teachers. All disciplines take you one step closer. The Self is employing every means possible to wake you up.

Once you realize God, truth, reality, enlightenment Enlightenment is not a perfected self, not a perfected personality, not a perfected human condition. Enlightenment has nothing to do with that, it has to do with realizing yourself as the consciousness of God. Realizing yourself as God, and realizing everyone else as God too. Knows God in everything and everything is interconnected. Experience the creation of other souls what they create with mind, body, intellect without any judgement of right or wrong. Guide or share truth to anyone who ask question with deep urge to know answer without any direct or indirect expectation. Share awareness, understanding on basis of truth on all situation in present moment, so that they make a right choice which can create what they know they can create, without any fear with love. Enlignten one experiences bliss as and when they want without any reason.

After enlightenment， there are still desire, just no personal identification with the desire.

My journey into seeking what I understood was I operated my life through all the psychological personalities before the awakening. I don't know whether I am fully understanding on realization of my true Self but I have a sense of seeing my psychological personalities as separate entities. Before they were me and also my consciousness but now the awareness comes in and there is separation between me and my psychological entities but they are still content in my consciousness. They still come to me in thoughts form only one thing is that I acknowledge their existence and let go. It is like space can accept sun, moon, planets, galaxies, you, me, etc all seen and unseen but space is still and calm, timeless, unchanging without the space nothing can exist. I found that space inside me and accepting all the possible existence seen and unseen. I now operate my life from the space of knowing from my being away from my psychological drama. I can choose to give into my thoughts or not to give in. Before I couldn't choose. But thoughts are still there on and off but they have less influence on my choice. My actions become more spontaneous towards love, peace and joy. I am now living not just surviving.

He's talking about the intellectual realization of (the "concept" of) enlightenment, which has nothing to do with the full psychological assimilation of Shunyata-i.e. the relinquishing of all views due to the realization of the lack of inherent essence in all phenomena. Once fully realized, everything happens spontaneously and there is no room left for aligning or progressing in any such regard.

Yes there is no point of arrival on a eternal journey. And the one thing that we know is that we know nothing, don't flatter your self thinking you know the unknowable. May many blessing be yours my brother

This point of recognising an 'error' in a circumstance is not personal development, it's simple interpersonal awareness. If politeness gets mistaken for progress, it's a pretty thin gruel you are working for. This is why spiritual development at this level of simply being 'nice and sensitive' is a borderline anal practice. In these gatherings you see hungry souls with ravenous eyes sit in the audience darting for specks to feast on. The offerings are so scant.

After everything Rupert is so humble 🙏🏼

Just to bring Rupert down off the pedestal he naturally fins himself on lol, he's still making the mistake he describes in the video today in 2024...he is after all, human, and allowed to make mistakes.

how can one say "there is no such experience as time" in one video, and then say "it takes time" in another teaching. I know these are just words, but contradiction just makes the path seem longer, as if I have made no progress. Words fail on so many levels, yet there are all we seem to have. Communication from Rupert transcends language and is non-verbal. We (human mind) just makes associations with words as close to intent as we can get at the "time." This communication comes through many teachers because the Truth is urging itself to be expressed. Not for any benefit other than to just be. Life is truly amazing.

1:35 Half life G-man

There could only be my perception. The way I perceive experience is the work.

The way l felt conversation going on without Ego

Rupert is good

True. Thanks for the clarification.

Mahavatar Babaji can say it...I think

I love this man

But I dont get it.. what good is "the realization" if these things are still there?

Possibly the optimal answer to the Mantra question would have to say, "please meet me in person after my speech and I'll be more than happy to address the issue for you." That is probably what I would have done although I can't speak for Rupert.

I disagree. Realization has no solid substance - it exists as an abstract idea. Thus, there can be no 'before' or 'after' realization. In addition, the very concept of realization is misleading, because it suggests that some people are real or fully evolved, and that others aren't. Essentially, realization is yet another product of our imagination. To believe, at any point, that you are not real (enough), is to deceive yourself.

Absolutely. We see this in ourselves most everyday. "All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God." Romans 3:23

The content of the video didn’t seem very relevant to the title for me.