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Age of Sigmar Spearhead Review - NOT for Veterans! 

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Age of Sigmar Spearhead review. Why on earth were people raving about how tactically deep this was??! They drank the coolaid. It's a GREAT beginner game, though!
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@GlassHalfDead
@GlassHalfDead Месяц назад
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@gnaleinad
@gnaleinad Месяц назад
Totally disagree. 😂 My friends and I had so much enjoyment and depth from Spearhead that we are playing it exclusively until the end of the year. Just how many games and which armies have you played? 😂 I had 20 games in total after last night. I have both of the Stormcast Spearhead, Sylvaneth, Skaven, Gloomspite, Ogor Mawtribes, Mega-Gagrant, Kruleboys, and Nighthaunt. They were mainly from box sets of the previous 2 aos launch. Some needed a little top-up, but it's really perfect for those who collected those sets. Just last weekend, I hosted a 8 person Spearhead tournament at my place. All I needed is just 3 foldable tables and my dining table. We each had 3 games starting at 1 pm, and we were done in about 3 hours. And we had so much time to talk about it over dinner and beer. Gone are the 2.5 to 3 hours per game tournament, after 3 games and you are shagged out. You just wanna go home and rest. We are so hype and planning for another one at the end of the month, and most of us are getting another army to try. That's about the amount of time to build a new box of spearhead anyway. My pal came over to play a round with me just last night, using my spare spearhead army since i have a few. We were done with game 1 in about 50 mins and played another round with other armies for another 45 mins. Nighthaunt vs Skaven, then Gloomspite vs Sylvaneth. He came at about 7pm and left at about 9pm? It would have been impossible if it was a 2k game, and easily it would have ended at 10plus. Spearhead is a God sent for working adults like us. I have a booking for another game tonight. Someone is Sure, a 2k game is deeper, but you haven't really played enough to make any judgement on this format. Have you played against all of the factions? The only factions I haven't played with/against are Ironjawz, Idoneth Deepkin, Kharadron Overlords and Flesh-eater Courts. I'm planning to start Lumineth, Kharadron Overlords, Tzeentch and Seraphon. My friends are starting Fyreslayers, Seraphon, Kruleboyz, Gloomspite Gitz, Sylvaneth. Can't wait for IronJawz spearhead list. I have a massive ironjawz army, so I'm already ready.. Unless they have some new ironjawz model... So please go play more before saying that it's not for veterans. We are all in our late 40s and many of us have been playing since 4th Edition Fantasy Warhammer. One even made it to the ITC team and represented his country in 7th ed fantasy. Even he said that it was surprisingly good 😂
@GlassHalfDead
@GlassHalfDead Месяц назад
@@gnaleinad it's great that you like it!
@bdog6160
@bdog6160 Месяц назад
Excellent points made here. Negative review from the start. It's an excellent game aimed at people without the time or interest in dedicating 3/4hrs to a game of aos. There is plenty of tactical choices. I've played aos games with less tactics. Use a greater sample size before dismissing
@gnaleinad
@gnaleinad Месяц назад
@@bdog6160 Thank you. In my mini tournament, 5 of the players have existing AoS armies and 2 are very new to AoS from 40k. They borrowed my Kruleboyz and Skaven, and one of them did so well that he is planning to start Kruleboyz. That other newbie came over last night and played two games with me. He is starting Sylvaneth as it is super tactical. I believe it's the community that makes your game. I am lucky I guess. However if you are already playing AoS, it should be easy to invite 8 players to have a swiss format tournament.
@ringo3917
@ringo3917 Месяц назад
Dude hit you with the triple 😂
@polyfission2776
@polyfission2776 Месяц назад
dude where did you find so many friends willing to play warhammer? I can hardly find one person to table a game, and its certainly not Age of sigmar!
@R3C0NSPARTAN
@R3C0NSPARTAN Месяц назад
My buddy and I have jammed a lot of AoS after starting with Killteam on TTS. We did 2 games of spearhead before we got the rules of 4th, it seemed pretty fun. Will probably play more on tabletop while our armies are being built, but ultimately we'd work towards more AoS
@jonmattison3939
@jonmattison3939 Месяц назад
As a casual player, perhaps I don't get out enough, but Combat Patrol is the go-to game with my friends and I. I'm pretty invested in 40k and pretty much have zero desire for anything Age of Sigmar. However, over the years I have ended up with several old 'start collecting' for AoS and have recently enjoyed building them for Spearhead. Again, I have zero desire to invest in full Sigmar but enjoying Spearhead. On the topic of replay-ability, let me direct your attention to an older game called Chess: 1 board, 1 deployment, 1 faction, always a mirror match, no enhancements, no command points, no stratagems, no battle tactics...
@naitp
@naitp Месяц назад
I think there's probably a subset of AoS players who only play small games and "collect broad" (as they mention way down on page 46 of the free rules download on warcomm), and GW has figured out how to validate those players by making it a legitimate format in a fun way for AoS. If so, then this contrasts nicely against Combat Patrol, which is a format where (as far as I can tell) new players are condescended to for six months while they never get around to building a full army, grow tired of spending money on it, and simply stop showing up. :)
@GlassHalfDead
@GlassHalfDead Месяц назад
Totally agree. Although I'm used to people being "married to a faction", KT, Warcry, C Patrol, and now Spearhead validate that "going wide" is good for gaming too. I mean, it's worked on me!
@earnestwanderer2471
@earnestwanderer2471 Месяц назад
Read the comments, so... I haven’t played Spearhead yet at all. That said, I’m an old fogey and have been playing tabletop for decades. I’m really interested in giving this a try, but here’s my gut feeling. If you’re just talking about playing one faction’s Spearhead box, especially against just one other faction, as with a friend also getting into the hobby. And, you’re limited to the boards, terrain and scenarios currently available. This game is going to have very limited replayability. Now, if you’re willing to try different factions, and are playing in a group setting where you face different factions, and GW continues to support the system with new board layouts, terrain pieces and scenarios... then I can see this as being a viable format.
@GlassHalfDead
@GlassHalfDead Месяц назад
@@earnestwanderer2471 in that vein there's something i forgot to touch on. Something spearhead does a good job on is acting as a taster for the main game factions. So yes they all play very differently, which definitely adds to replayability.
@gnaleinad
@gnaleinad Месяц назад
Precisely brother! Sorry if you read my super long comment but starting a new army used to be a 4-6 month affair with dreadful amount of dedication! Most of the Spearhead boxes should only take less than a month to fix and paint if we go at the rate of 1 model a day. That's 45 mins of hobbying for me. Some like Gloomspite and Nighthaunt might be bigger in number but the models are simple and easy to paint. I am doing Lumineth and Kharadron Overlords right now, something I would had NEVER touch previously even thought I loved the models. Now I have the reason and motivation to do so! Can't wait to play my mini tournament at the end of the month.
@GlassHalfDead
@GlassHalfDead Месяц назад
@@gnaleinad I mean yeah, I've bought like 6 Spearheads. I have nothing against the Spearhead format, I was mainly railing against the early talk of it being SO SUPER TACTICAL BUT SERIOUS GUYS early creator reviews. I think that it's a great format for certain people. And I think that it almost certainly provides more tactical bang for your buck if you take into account cost, space required to play, and time required to play. Which is brilliant, no doubt :)
@hepticity
@hepticity 9 часов назад
I genuinely hope GW sees the success of Spearhead as a game, and fixes Combat Patrol. I'm mostly a hobbyist, but started actually playing recently with KillTeam. The reason why KillTeam (and now Spearhead) appeals to me so much, is that I can approach each different faction with a different set of techniques (hobby-wise) which keeps me interested in painting and modelling. Then, on the gameplay side, if different teams/factions play different, I get the same thing in terms of playstyle (and it makes collecting a library of teams for people to play with something that makes sense from a hosting games perspective) The sheer amount of 'bogged down' feeling you get from committing to 1 2k point army. I tried this with CSM, and I almost made it to 2k, but now I *viscerally hate* painting CSM, and especially in my army paint scheme. I recently built and painted a Legionary KT in a completely different scheme, and it was super fun to be working with some of my favourite models in a totally fresh way. Anyway, I know you're not a hobby guy, but I thought I'd share that smaller games (if balanced well) can really appeal to players and hobbyists like me, where you can try a bunch of different things, rather than be locked into a painting and playstyle you didn't even understand before you played the game.
@Damnedlegion40k
@Damnedlegion40k Месяц назад
Double thumbs up 👍👍
@kollegex6946
@kollegex6946 Месяц назад
I mean yes and no regarding the marketing. For many I know Combat Patrol (and in turn Spearhead) is not (in their mind) an entry to large scale 40k. They think of it as a smaller affordable alternative that delivers the same experience. They dont want 2000pt 40k. They want a smaller game, thats quicker and does not demand as much money from you. Now. Thats probably not a realistic or sometimes honest view. But it is why they buy it.
@GlassHalfDead
@GlassHalfDead Месяц назад
@@kollegex6946 well that's totally great, and I'd say with Spearhead they get a pretty decent shot at that. But that's not how spearhead was marketed at all.
@kollegex6946
@kollegex6946 Месяц назад
@@GlassHalfDead wasnt it ? You would probably know better, but the articles i saw were talking about spearhead being "standalone new game mode" "self contained" and "balanced". While they also mention it being a "primer" they really seemed to focus on spearhead being its own thing imo
@Hikertrash215
@Hikertrash215 Месяц назад
Yeah everything I heard was it being a quick, balanced game mode. Less about being for beginners. But that just what our gaming community was hearing. ​@@kollegex6946
@kristoff7049
@kristoff7049 Месяц назад
A gateway game! I have been wanting to get into sigmar…. Now I can because of spearhead… and then within a year I’ll be full on into proper sigmar
@GlassHalfDead
@GlassHalfDead Месяц назад
@@kristoff7049 I'm all about the gateway! Spearhead is good fun and for many it could even be the final step. You don't HAVE to go any further up to 2k! Yes, 2k is more of a complete game,I think that's clear, but for many people the factor is time, play area, cost etc more than makes up for the loss of additional gameplay!
@TheRonan92
@TheRonan92 Месяц назад
Same here bro!
@gurtana
@gurtana Месяц назад
I played my first 2 spearheads games today and I would say while I agree that it's a beginner way to play, one thing you've mentioned but didn't go into much explanation is that once you get the order structure and basics of your army down, this is supposed to be a quick game. This is supposed to be (or at least marketed as) something that you could play in the space of 1.5 hours. and in my second game I found that was the case. We don't all have the time for an entire day, or long evenings for a 2000 point game. I don't think I heard anyone say it was deeply tactical, it's still a stripped down game, but the card play does make the game less predictable and is something that Combat Patrol lacked. Yes, you're in combat quicker in Spearhead but you don't have always stay there.
@arbitrary_mike7833
@arbitrary_mike7833 Месяц назад
Spearhead serves a subset of players who don’t have the time or desire to spend 500$+ to build out an army or allocate tons of hours to list building. Those are very valid ways to enjoy the game, but there is a ton of appeal to me to spending that 500$ on four (discounted) spearheads and having the ability to pair up against my kids with several different options for an hour and a half on a weekend afternoon. It’s not tournament-level play, but it’s fun and there are meaningful enough decisions to be made.
@TheRonan92
@TheRonan92 Месяц назад
The only pushing on it being a gateway into full AOS that I can see is that they have the spearhead boxes posted under "Getting Started" in the AOS side of their website. That's a lot of assuming required from the customer at best.
@markcherry71
@markcherry71 Месяц назад
I agree looks like it's shoot, charge and fight. Removes scenery so no tactical moving as theirs nothing to move round. Learn to fight.
@matth6897
@matth6897 Месяц назад
That was interesting, thank you. A few of us are getting together at the weekend to play Spearhead, we are treating it as a way to learn the basics before moving to bigger games.
@GlassHalfDead
@GlassHalfDead Месяц назад
@@matth6897 that's the way to do it, for sure. But for some Spearhead might not need any step up and scratch all your needs!
@puracy3452
@puracy3452 Месяц назад
Disagree on just being a beginner version. There is so much little stuff you can do, to have interesting "high level" play. Deployment /screening to deal with the first turn charges, pile in shenaigans, knowing your opponents 12 card options and playing on that. Playing the objectives instead trying to just kill stuff. Especially not killing units that can reinforce back onto the board, retreating units (either for objective play or even just killing them yourself to get them as reinforcements back on a different board edge). It does not replace full AoS, but it does stand on its own very well. Will it last the whole edition? That depends on if gw supports the format and brings out new maps/twists and so on. But i suspect they will
@Darwingreen5
@Darwingreen5 Месяц назад
Spearhead gives me vibes of the oldschool battlebox warmachine games. Just pick up your starter box and you can get a fun casual game.
@gammafighter
@gammafighter Месяц назад
I agree to an extent. If someone plays less than once a month and they have more than one spearhead to play and more than one opponent to play against, i can't imagine it getting old. If you're playing every week, on the other hand, then yes, you should aim to get 2k points asap. I saw this in TCGs too. I played a tcg that had new sets every 4 months. By the time i played my first draf, the guys at my lgs were already bored of drafting and had dozens of games of full constructed decks under their belt. The draft meta was already "solved" by them, but i had a blast every time i played because i was so much more casual about it. With Stormcast and Skaven getting second spearheads and with GW making new combat patrols when factions get their codex, my guess is that every faction will get a second spearhead as well. If they release new boards with new twists and even new tactics as well, i can see a lot of replayability. Never for the hardcore gamers but certainly for us casuals.
@ryolacap
@ryolacap Месяц назад
Disagree, if I ever play AoS it would only be Spearhead
@jo6253
@jo6253 Месяц назад
We played 4-5 rounds and quickly returned to Warcry. It gets pretty repetitive pretty quickly, especially the maps are boring and its just charging into each other over and over.
@YumYumTasty35
@YumYumTasty35 7 дней назад
it's also VERY unbalanced. Just compare stormcast eternals having returning liberators and prosecutors to example trash like Disciples of Tzeentch or Slanesh
@nicholas1173
@nicholas1173 Месяц назад
Nice. Ty Big Daddy A
@coreywhalen1615
@coreywhalen1615 Месяц назад
Hoping that everything good from Spearhead will end up in Combat Patrol for 11th 40k
@GlassHalfDead
@GlassHalfDead Месяц назад
That would be great, for sure!
@Akilli315
@Akilli315 Месяц назад
Thank you for the honest thoughts Mr. Glass.
@GlassHalfDead
@GlassHalfDead Месяц назад
Any time! I perhaps focused too much on my own desire to move to 2k, and didn't say how good Spearhead was at what it does. Always good to reflect!
@kausalkraken5951
@kausalkraken5951 Месяц назад
I feel like in one year we will get an expansion / advance rule with a magic system and a bigger board (48 x 36) for spearhead.
@tiredguy2753
@tiredguy2753 Месяц назад
I wonder if there wil be a combat patrol 2.0 , taking lessons learned from spearhead.
@JimCrimmins
@JimCrimmins Месяц назад
Hmm. Feels like you played it once and threw some conclusions out. There's nothing wrong with having an opinion, but this 'take' is based on extremely limited interaction... It kinda shows.
@gingerhammer8485
@gingerhammer8485 Месяц назад
Same with his take on 40k being just "keep adding till you hit 3 units". I literally never run 3 units of anything in 40k because A. Those points add up and restrict you from making viable lists, and B. Very few people own 3 of every unit so you can't just do that.
@GlassHalfDead
@GlassHalfDead Месяц назад
That's pretty much what a review is though. Find a creator who you tend to like the bias of and watch them. No one is objective :)
@JimCrimmins
@JimCrimmins Месяц назад
@@GlassHalfDead hmm, yeah.. Ash Barker has played like double digit factions with Spearhead. I think his take holds far more weight. If you play a boardgame once, it's a hot take.. Not a review. That may be your style, but it's not very informative. I'm a fan, not trying to harsh on ya.. But theres quite a difference between a good review and a hot take
@peterbereczki4147
@peterbereczki4147 Месяц назад
Spearhead is just the 40k equivalent of Combat Patrol. Somewhat balanced boxes for easy access for new players. Its not a mistery
@GlassHalfDead
@GlassHalfDead Месяц назад
@@peterbereczki4147 agreed, it is that. It was never marketed as that. All the marketing seems to be aimed at getting existing veteran players to try the format
@Welshy180
@Welshy180 Месяц назад
@@GlassHalfDeadI don’t think it’s so much to get veteran players to play the format but to entice all players to try multiple factions without needing to buy a full 2000pt army. And then let the plastic crack addiction take over when they inevitably buy more from the factions they dipped their toes into.
@puracy3452
@puracy3452 Месяц назад
The difference between spearhead amd combat patrol however is the fact it very much shows that they very actively tried to balance searhead while keeping it simple. Combat patrol however is still full rules, no easy scenery guidelines and completely out of balance forces
@Welshy180
@Welshy180 Месяц назад
@@puracy3452 100% spearhead is a far superior game format. It actually plays well. I disagree with a lot of what is said in this video I’ve had a great time playing it. It’s quick and simple, pick up and play. There is nothing wrong with that.
@gnaleinad
@gnaleinad Месяц назад
Another point to note, Spearhead is a very different game from AoS, NO COMMAND POINT 🤔, NO SPELLS NOR PRAYERS 😮‍💨, and most importantly those Reinforcement units can be setup just 3" away from enemy unit within your territory 🤪🤪🤪 Last but not least those objective is capture by models touching the objective and not a unit total control score. (My Mega-gargants were objective kings 🥰🥰) Being very good at Spearhead will not make you a good AoS player, the tactics and consideration is so very different. Too much of what wins you games cannot be carried over to 2k AoS match play. (My pal just borrowed my Endless spells for his game, 2k right now is all about endless spells.) Sure it will introduce the basis concepts of AoS to a newbie, but would you say that playing Draughts is preparing you to play Chess? 🤣🤣🤣
@Roan-xj1mg
@Roan-xj1mg Месяц назад
That's more than 1 point. But I guess it really was about you being a really good AoS player? 🙄
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