At this point, it's a crime that they didn't give a visual/sound effect for Shadow King yet. I wanna SEE him deleting all those green numbers! It's like a Shang chi without the dragon punch 😢
Been saying! Granted the silver lining is that it’s like a silent but deadly fart; due to how pronounced dropping a shadow king at the right time is in the game, part of me at least enjoys the effect-less very quiet “YOU LOSE” chirp 👌😅
Look at the new Scarlet Spider screen break effect. Have that effect, but over glow over both sides (prolly purple) give a draining sound effect. Because he’s basically like a psychic vampire. Or they could lean into the original Saturday morning cartoon and use his purple “mindscape” armor. Just do like a Caiera bubble on the cards but like purple…… Heck just use the Leech hand but make it purple lol.
Fully prepared to see a clog list run bully move. There’s a lot of innate synergies between clogging and moving your opponents cards. It also enables plays like juggernaut+white widow on five to clog a lane that your opponent is keeping free with a kitty or something (or maybe will play a big dude like Ajax).
Exactly. As someone who begrudgingly played Hela for a couple weeks because it was easy wins, I can say without a doubt I stopped because I wanted to have fun playing the game again. It's so boring. But I'll probably pull it out to hit a fast infinite tomorrow.
Agreed. I played Hela to get from 70 to 90, and even though it was relatively easy, goddess, was it boring. I love my Sera above all, even if she's not nearly as strong 💜
I feel like I’m alone in thinking that hela feels a lot more subseptile to tech cards after the patch. Red guardian in particular feels strong shutting down hellcows or Luke cages, and because hela is more reliant on drawing Luke cage its worse into things like odd hawk.
Polaris and Stegron can be used to clog a lane. Maybe there will be a clog deck that runs Scream, Polaris, and Stegron as a package in to augment the clog plan and provide some power with Scream.
The meta needs new deck archetypes, new protagonist. New game defining cards. I returned to the game 2 months ago after break for a few month's. I'm seeing the same old deck's from 15 months ago. No other card game is like that. The devs need to either rotate cards out or release new cards in batches. So we can have real innovation, real meta shifts and make the game feel fresh!
We had that with Move a little bit. Arana and Madame Webb did breathe some life into Move, which wasn't a real deck for the last 2 years. Unfortunately, Scream is about to bury it again, though, but maybe Scream will bring about the "moving your opponent's cards" decks.
That's because other TCGs and their new "seasons" I believe last several months but also introduce an entirely new archetype of cards for variety of deck types. Marvel Snap is probably closer to something to a game with hero characters like Overwatch, League, etc except instead of like 1 character every season it's 5 each month. I do agree, we don't often get a whole new deck archetype of deck defining card. We sort of did with cards like Arishem and Thanos of course but yeah, we could use more. At least we got Activate recently so it's not like new mechanics aren't on the table.
I always see people get bogged down on this. If you let go of the tcg expectations and shift to expectations for a mobile gacha game, you'll understand why they would never make this kind of change.
Best case scenario: for Bast, it's when played on turn 1 or 2 when it's setting 3 or 4 cards. For Agent Venom, it'll be on 2, where it's also going to set the 4 cards you are going to draw up to turn 6. Since AV gives 1 more power (because you chose cars that always go up in power when AV'd), it should always be a better play to AV than to Bast
Arishem was fun when it was popular, but I like it more now as people do not run darkhawk and cassandra much, so when I play it the games feel very fun and varied
For me, a *targeted* Hulk Buster is exciting to me. Cass was only needed because Arishem but he was already on the decline when Cass was released so while she was good, she really only worked against one deck. Agony is a targeted Hulk Buster, though. HB is random but Agony isn't, and she's cheaper. You can do Agony and DP on turn 2 or Agony T1 then DP and another 1 cost T2. That opens a lot more freedom than HB ever offered.
Honestly bast is one of those cards that could probably use a buff, I think he might be interesting as a 1/3, just an above curve body with a deck building restriction. Might be a little on the strong side but I honestly don't think it would be broken
I would say there technically is, there definitely is a difference between buffing your deck with Agent Venom vs buffing your hand with Bast. The former, you have to actually draw into your value, whereas Bast lets you play that out right away. Now, I do think Bast is still on the weaker side by comparison, buuuuut, AV could also give Bast a new home via redundancy. They might just both go in the same deck as a backup plan to each other. If you build a deck around AV, and don't draw AV, well, at least Bast can still give you some value. Get both, and now your hand *and* deck have better numbers.
Regarding your comment on interactivity - I think Bounce is actually quite an "interactive" deck, where Hela isn't. A lot of the interaction, skill, and fun in snap is in choosing where to place your power by visualizing what your opponent's board might look like and beating their points appropriately. Hela assigns their points randomly, which is unfun. Similarly, tribunal removes that aspect of the game, where Wong combo, Mr Negative, Phoenix Force all still have some amount of power allocation decisions.
Agent venom is gonna need a nerf I fear, but I think it enables the decks I like to play such as bounce or thena so I’m hoping it gets nerfed to a playable level
Agony is a decent card in angela hope summers decks as well, might not make the cut cause that deck has a lot of tools already but it's worth a mention
Appreciate the discussion. What’s considered top of infinite? (There’s a little number on my screen and have no context for what percentile that represents. I can appreciate that things can change, but just want something to anchor on.)
Yeah, unfortunately, Agony doesn't nullify any of those. Agony becomes the other card, like Hulkbuster or Phoenix Force, not like Symbiote Spider-Man. The only decks I can possibly imagine Agony being in are Destroy and maybe Phoenix Force. Agony into Multiple Man is a fairly easy curve for Phoenix Force, and it is a sort of "2nd Arana" for Destroy.
@@michaelbesser5348 I actually think it's got a better range than that. Destroy and Phoenix are good homes, but I think Agony gives more support to Daken, Shaw, Beta Ray Bill, Scarlett Spider, just a ton of cards that could really use another way to scale without the clunk of forge or handbuffing
Them adding exclusive rewards into leagues was honestly a nightmare scenario for me personally, there is no ounce of “skill” you need to get too the top it’s all about who has the most free time in the leagues
⬆️ Absolutely true. And there is easy remedy for that: just set a constant number of games to play in the league. You know, like in every professional sports league. Everyone plays the same number of games, who gets the most points wins.
I've seen lots of snap creator videos, and you're the only one that recognize the true potential of Agent Venom in Bounce...everyone says "cerebro 4", 'zoo" or other suboptimal decks. How is that not obvious?
32:50i just wich anniversary was more special. Marvel snap uses so many gacha progression mechanics that it is crazy how they don't treat anniversary like something special like most gacha games do. Like give us 3k - 6k tokens, it seems fitting for something that happens once a year.
One thing unpopular opinion I have is Hela is completely fine except when her playrate is so extremely high. I think the cube system in snap makes it so sometimes hela gets its nut draw you’re supposed to leave. Like at high of infinite the fact that fucking Sabertooth and angel can played should say something about this meta game having more space than a lot of meta other meta games. But you are constantly force to tech for hela it’s a lot more narrow
I have issue with KM making seem like disliking this meta is a skill issue. When Hela is one of the most popular decks this type of meta becomes prevalent. This type of meta removes player agency which most players find unfun. People hating this meta is because their choices are invalidated by the opponent's deck and not because people either can't identify what their opponent is playing or because they aren't as skilled as KM. This happened the last time Hela was popular and I'm praying that SD responds much more quickly than they did in the prior instance where we had to suffer for months because SD said "the data shows Hela isn't an issue..."
i don't think you got what i was saying if that was your takeaway. im saying the people who dislike this meta are right to dislike this meta, and even if youre GOOD, its a lot of "correctly identifying that i lost on turn 4", which sucks. meta is full of games that end on turn 4, and if they arent doing that, theyre playing enormous unaccountable power t6.
Hela I feel like does have more player agency than it’s given credit for, and honestly suffering it’s a deck that kinda not that hard to tech for. I think the real reason people play so much hela is simply it’s a deck with one required series 5. Its a symptom of card aqquestion that hela is so popular rather than strength
@@Mr_Paw_revised Threw 2 keys, got the Mobius variant (I don't play Mobius in any of my decks) and Copycat which I already owned. Last season I was 1 tap god this week I suck. Its gonna be a long month
I feel like agony it's a card that can be in any deck to buff any card you want but it's not too great to replace any cards of the deck you will like to put her in.. even Hulkbuster, I don't if a want to replace Hulkbuster for her in my deadpool deck..
