Leo Gardiner he says he took Arthur in like a son when Arthur was 15 when Dutch was only like 20 himself So realistically Dutch is more of an older brother to Arthur than a father
Wow Sadie was only 25?! Jeez her deep voice and dgaf attitude made me think she must have been in her early 30s or sth, just a few year younger than Arthur not 11 🤯🤯
I was expecting Sadie to be around 29-30 but I have a feeling if she’d been older than 25 she’d likely have children by then which wouldn’t work out as well with the narrative
@@mrbelarabo3367 Uncle is a cosmic deity that somehow ended up on Earth, where he took the form of a frail lazy old man with lumbago to hide his true power
I believe the the story takes place within a year, Jack is 4 years old and doesn't age until the Epilogue when he says he's 12. So the main story is about a year, then a 8 year time skip in the Epilogue. There's no indication that the main story took place within a few years, it's 1899 through out the entire campaign
@@cb41503 I'm 34, spend my whole life so far riding horses and teaching riding outside rain and shine, and people think I'm 28 at most. They just look old af
@@janitor_arya9011 yeah , when he's antagonizing him. hes just teasing kinda maliciously when he says that line, lmfao, since it only plays when you hit antagonize.. its a running joke or theory that jack is not john's son, but its more than likely that he is. however anybody is free to theorize how they please. i personally believe he's john's son. but regardless they didn't adopt jack, he was 100% born to abigail.
Yeah. Literally plot points out there that Dutch raised Arthur starting at 13.. an 18 year old raising a 13 year old doesn't seem anything like they described in game. I'm calling it bs. Even if it is canon, I use my headcanon. Same for heights, I refuse to believe Arthur is anything under 6'
Arthur was 16 when Dutch and Hosea found him. Dutch was 21 and Hosea was 35. (According to this list and Arthur says in game he’s been with them 20 years) Edit: Both this video and I am wrong. Please disregard this comment and move on.
@@redvice6210 I've met people who were no more than 4-5 years older than me and I could've seen them as my father figures. Being young and wise is truly something.
If I had to give a more fitting call for what each member should be based on their appearance, I'd say: Arthur (36) - About right ✅ Dutch (41) - Late 40s (47-49) Hosea (55) - Early 60s (60-63) John (26) - Early 30s (30-33) Abigail (22) - Late 20s (27-29) Jack (4) - (6 or 7) Micah 39 - About right ✅ Bill 33 - Mid 30s (34-36) Javier (26) - Early 30s (30-33) Lenny (19) - About right ✅ Stauss (53) - About right ✅ Charles (24) - Late 20s (27-29) Swanson (46) - About right ✅ Sean (21) - About right ✅ Karen (25) - About right ✅ Tilly (21) - About right ✅ Mary-Beth (21) - About right ✅ Pearson (48) - Mid 40s (44-46) Grimshaw (43) - Early 50s (50-53) Uncle (61) - About right ✅ Molly (25) - About right ✅ Sadie (25) - Late 20s (27-29) Pearson is the only one who I think looks younger than he actually is, not much, but I've pinned him a few years younger. Sadie only looks a little older than than she actually is, I think it's her rough voice that makes her seem older. Swanson looks a few years older than his actual age, but I think you chalk it up to his morphine addiction. I'd say Grimshaw looks like she's in her mid-50s even, but similar to Swanson, she's lived a tough life which probably makes her look a lot rougher.
John is 38 in RDR 1, so knowing that RDR 2 takes place 12 years before, we can confirm that he was 26 during the main game (34 in the epilogue). Same logic applies to Abigail and Jack, who were 34 and 16 in RDR 1, respectively. Abigail was 22 in RDR 2 (30 in the epilogue) and Jack was 4 (12 in the epilogue).
It’s even sadder if you find the letter from his dad in the camp just outside of Rhodes, it says a bunch of stuff about how his dads dream was for Lenny to become a lawyer and live an honest life, he goes on about how he feels sorry about how he must seem more like a tutor than a father but he did it so he can live a better life than his dad and the generations before him (Lennys family were slaves), but that obviously never happened as he joined the gang and rather than living his dads dream of him being a lawyer and helping others, living an honest, wealthy life, he became and outlaw and died at 19...
Its sad, I never realized how young so many characters died....and got brought into this shit storm. A lot of them could still be in school!! (college ofc)
the life expectancy in the year 1900 was 46 years old. i think some movies and games intentionally use older actors or make them look older than they are to show maturaty as well as the showing they have been through alot and that age has nothing to do with who you are
Famous quotes: “You miss 100 percent of the shots you don’t take”. “Whether you think you can or you can’t, your right”. “That which does not kill us makes us stronger”. “Did you catch the bad guys”.
It’s mad crazy that Uncle lived until he was 73 and even then he was still active. Most men in 1911 would’ve died a lot sooner, but I guess it takes a lot to kill the one shot kid.
Well, even if the life expectancy of this time was around 50 yrs old, people did live old, hell there are records of people dying at 90 yrs old in the ancient world so...
@@s8theninjawarrior916 I’m not just talking about dying of old age. He’s been in hundreds of gunfights in his time and he’s come out on top in each and every one. It’s a miracle he wasn’t shot to death when he was half his age.
He does look older, but if he was, that would mean that he would be 14 or 15 in the epilogue, which he honestly didn't look like, so 12 fits about right.
yup exactly what ronky said, jack in fact states in the epilogue that he's 12. though i also want to say my nephew looked like that when he was 4, some kids just look older (either because they grow faster or whatever. ...my nephew is really tall, lol.) so...happens. haha
EDIT: As I started to replay RDR2 yesterday i come to one thing, at the beggining of the game arthur says that he rides for about 20 years with the gang, and that he joined them while hew was about 13, so he must be no older than 34 or 35
@@jaydenbailey5480 Arthur was 16 when Dutch and Hosea found him. Dutch was 21 and Hosea was 35. (According to this list at least and what Arthur says in game he’s been with them 20 years) Edit: Not only am I wrong but so is this list. Majority of these ages aren’t even confirmed please ignore my comment.
@@redvice6210 thanks I was basing it around what Charles said about being 14 and leaving and hosea said thats around the time Arthur joined I appreciate the correction
Why everyone thinks they are older what they really are? Don't you understand back then living conditions were tough and people looked older (bad food, smoking, alcohol, sicknesses and so on)
all those people look so much older compared to their ages. i think in those times, there was clean food, less pollution, clean water. no machines. that's why people good shape of body even at early age.
@@mr.picklejar yeah I agree as much as I dont like it they're all going to hell they've killed, robbed, etc. but in the end Arthur is going the same place as lenny
Going by old pictures, I think it's just that everyone in the late 1800s looked a decade older than they were. Probably from all the exposure to the Lumbago.
Life in general was harder back then. People has less access to nutrition and vitamins; they were subject to hard labor due to the technological limitations sometimes lack thereof, medicine and vaccinations were also less developed which meant diseases that are rate today are much morch common then. All this combined wears a person down real quick especially if they are not careful.
ValleyoftheKings64 yup now Since we are pampered with so much better stuff everyone looks younger than their age, 21 I am and people still think I’m 17-18
In Arthur’s tent at camp you can find a newspaper scrap of the gang’s first bank robbery. It occurred in 1887. Lenny was born in 1880. Lenny was SEVEN YEARS OLD while Arthur was robbing banks. That’s kinda crazy.
Dutch taught Arthur how to read don’t forget about that. Doesn’t matter if it’s only five years difference a 16 year old would most certainly look up to a wise 21 year old.
@@Revil0999 19 years old Dutch surely was more like adult, 14 years old Arthur no doubt was a boy. See? It make sense. Not to mention the info about their ages were released by rockstar themselves and they have never said they made something wrong.
Kane SC The law is the good guys in society’s eyes. Though some use that authority to do whatever they want. Like Milton and Ross. So not really good guys, but still considered good in society. Which is bs, to be honest. Also, the gang aren’t the good guys either. They killed a lot of people, some of them, maybe a lot of them were innocent. Like Dutch killing that girl in Blackwater, and Arthur and Micah having a shootout in Strawberry. Fucking Micah and his fucking guns, I wish we can leave him in that jail cell to rot like the rat shit he is!
@@romeo-delta1954 Herr Strauss looks like he is in his 60’s. I know life was a bit different back then, but Rockstar are taking the piss with their ages lol, and they are known for taking the piss, also a bit like they do with collision detection in this game and GTA.
Would of been cooler if Lenny, Charles and Sadie were in the Epilogue. If Lenny survived i could see him becoming a lawyer or a Doctor, Lenny was very smart
Sadie why why'd you leave could have stayed on the ranch you couldn't stay with John and that and you could have helped you John going you know about ants with him have fun go to the saloon get a beer whiskey have fun do anything you want but you look good you look good character when I played red Dead redemption 2 I liked you right off the bat I like how do you like The killing you enjoy the good fight actually you ain't back down from a fight views you're fighting woman I know I tells you what to do you're the only woman Sadie you look good character
That was the norm back then. Get the women young while they're still fertile and make as many babies as you can. That's what I've been finding out by doing the family tree. Farther back I go, the more babies they were popping out.
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@@TheOneWithTheSling well considering fast and junk food didn't exist then that might be true xD but still people were poor asf back then and they would suffer from starvation
@@TheOneWithTheSling Not true. Average life expectancy was about 46-48 in the United States around that time. Sure, process food and fast food was uncommon to entirely non existent, but advances in healthcare over the last century has extended people’s lives. A diseases like tuberculosis is easy to treat now and no one dies from it, but I guess you can argue that people overall ate healthier and were much more active which is true, just didn’t live as long due to lack of technology and access to healthcare. Also, things like lead were unregulated and was everywhere.
I still can't forget that one time when Arthur nearly gets stabbed in the chest and Dutch does nothing and leaves him behind or when Abigail was kidnapped by the Pinkertons and Micah said they should leave her behind because she is just a girl and Dutch agreed. Dutch really lost his mind after the Saint-Denis bank robbery. Losing Hosea was when he lost his mind but without him, Micah started playing with his mind
Yes dutch lost his mind Cause I did the helping john And there you fight with micah No stabbing Arthur dies naturally but still Dutch does not let arthur to pick up pistol and micah goes angry when Dutch does not listen to him But most importantly Rockstar failed to play us as Arthur even after epilogues. Damn. The reason now I am not playing story missiins is to play most with Arthur
@@captainAOG Well when I said he nearly got stabbed in the chest I was talking about that mission where the gang together with the Indians attack the Heartland oil fields when Eagle Flies saves Arthur but gets shot and later dies at Wapiti