Well, I said I should test out other CCI Mini-Mag cartridges and so I did. See my new Ammo Test Vid: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gia1buG5AiE.html
Great video, love the use of the phone for sighting and recording the test. However, I did find that I was holding my breath just before you fired. Just too realistic.
Found this video because I just bought 500 rds of Aguila and have never fired them before. I got the Target Competition rounds. Nice video, enjoyed that.
Good review, especially that you shot three groups for each ammo. That's important because a single group might be too random. Only multiple groups can show consistency. 👍
See how the crosshairs basically cover & conceal the red bulls-eye, I always use a larger than usual bull so I can center the crosshairs in it and have plenty left to see. Doing so has helped shrink my typical group size about 40%!
You should try the cci mini mag round nose. They are more accurate in all my rifles than the hollow points. Thanks for the video Brother. Good shoot'n. 🤠👍
I totally agree. But I ended up with more HP in my stash because my local Big-5 kept on having sales on the Swamp People value packs. I think you found the new ammo test with the "regular" round-nose Mini-Mags. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gia1buG5AiE.html
22lr firearms have particular tastes in their favorite foods just like people do. Step one after obtaining any 22 firearm is feed it everything you can lay your hands on to determine its favorite.
Wow! I just found your channel and this stuff & controlled shooting is incredible! The aguila performed phenomenal but just like in your other video the federal is incredible considering the price! Wow, hats off to you sir!
Thank you for doing so much of my homework, I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos .I also enjoy your scientific approach to the art of shooting. Warmest regards from Delaware
Very interesting. I have shot the same three ammo selections from two of my Ruger 10/22s and a Marlin 925 bolt action and have had the same results. The aquila ammo was superb. I started off with the federal match using it to zero the scope and it shot so bad I thought there was something wrong with the rifle/scope combo but it did the same on all three rifles. Tried using CCI and not that much better. My grandson gave me about 200rounds of aquilla and wow, what a difference. Best of all it was far cheaper than the CCI or federal. I also have a Browning Buckmark pistol and it shoots really well with the aquilla. No FTE or FTF either.
Federal Auto Match is the opposite of "match grade" in my Marlin 60 too. 😀But you know what's worse than Auto Match? Champion. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rjSZ-ZxZBrM.html
CCI SV has always been the best as far as CCI goes for me, even better when sorted. I shoot only CCI SV and Aguila SV as far as cheap 22 ammo goes. As a rule of thumb tho from my experiences anything SV is always more consistent than HV when it comes to .22lr and always it depends on what that gun likes. All 22lr firearms are super picky and like what they like as far as ammo. I have rifles that shoot cci SV great and I have rifles that stink with it. I have rifles that shoot lights out with Lapua Center x and others that dont.
Great video. I've done some accuracy testing at 50-100 yards with several of my rifles and had similar results with CCI (both mini-mags, velocitors, and segmented). Surprisingly poor accuracy compared to some less expensive bulk packs I tried at the same time. Automatch did better for me also than the CCI's, but the Aguila Super Extras and Browning 36gr HPs did best. Seen mentioned that the Brownings and Aguila both have significant crimps which can help with accuracy out of some rifles.
I've been meaning to try Browning, Armscor, and Herters when I can eventually find them again. Variety has been very limited in my part of the country.
@@Moondog2A Yeah this was back last spring when I was testing. Wanted to see which of the value priced stuff shot best for me so I could stock up. Got what I needed just in time. Haven't tried Armscor or Herters.
@@Moondog2Ai tried browning pro-22 and armscor precision. Nothing to write home about, but try this at 100 and see how the groups hold as the pass the transonic barrier.
Really depends on lot numbers with the Federal automatch in 2022 at least. I bought 5 or so boxes last year and literally I don't think there was a single malfunction so I decided to buy another 15,000 rds of it over the last couple months its extremely hit or miss now some boxes (at least half) turn even the most reliable semi auto into a single shot at best, very disappointing Federal!! I understand bulk ammo don't have much quality control but jeeze half these rounds barley have enough powder to get the bullet out of the barrel
After I've seen this I went to buy aguila 4000 rounds can't wait to go to try them. Im Glad I found this during ammo shortage in Canada. Cci mini mag was my first choice could shot same hole all day long. Let see what this can do with my rifle.
@Moondog Industries Savage Mk 2 22LR Heavy Barrel. To be honest I couldn't believe that any rifle could be so accurate. I can hit that red dot in the middle of target little piece by little till I destroy it completely that you can't see it. Amazing .22 rifle worth every penny I paid for it. And I'm talking about target shooting from 50 to 75 meters.
I have been choosing Aguila 36 and 40gr super extra over everything else for a while. Less expensive. Accurate. YET to have a dud. I have fires thousands of rounds. Runs in the fussiest of pistols. Minus the Saturday night specials like my Sterling. I would trust this to always go bang in a self defense situation honestly. I found some today and picked it over mini mags. Smells like super glue when fired though. lol.
My 10/22 gets 1 MOA with aguila cprn. 2.5-3 MOA with Federal,2-2.5 with mini mags and 4+ MOA with wildcats. These are for 10 shot strings using mean diameter calculation. I also get very good groups with cci subsonic. This is all tested at 50 yards. I need to test at 100 yards as most of these ammo’s go transonic at about 50 yards.
My Rossi likes most brands, so the auto match does me just fine for the price 💪 I like the terminal properties of federal champion 36gr hollow point but have heard that they're inconsistent here on RU-vid (I've bought a cpl bulk packs and never noticed a problem with them personally, and they expand quite well out of a shorter barreled rifle)
@@Moondog2A usually it's 5-20yd with pistol and around 60yd with rifle. Good grouping with federal and cci, haven't used aguila in years just because I haven't happened to get any. The worst I've tried is armscor hyper velocity hollow point, those can't get through 20 rounds without getting a f2f, hangfire, or light powder load. Stopped using them at all out of fear of a Squibb, that's how inconsistent they are 💩😅
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why compare copper plated with lead bullets and why compare hollow point with round nose? Love your work but would like to see comparisons of different brands and with similar bullet types and velocity eg Aguila 38 HP and CCI 36GR HP and federal 36gr HP all hollow points and all high velocity rating
Thanks. I did it to test the ammo I had on hand and to see which one I should use for my future range visits. I've actually done a few ammo tests since this one. Be sure to SUBSCRIBE. Here's one just like you described. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UA4QA0L4FNM.html
These results do not surprise me, Aguila Super Extra is excellent, more power then a match round but great accuracy, btw the powder they use smells like the powder in SK match ammo, and that is excellent stuff.
@MoondogIndustries almost embarrassed to say but it's an old Lakefield mossberg that I purchased in the 70's. I can't bring myself to part with the old rifle it's shot at least 10,000 rounds and still cuts a half inch group at 50yd.
Can I suggest that you use an OAL Comparator and Calipers and record the OAL of those that your rile likes. I have a semi Match Chamber and longer OALs of 0.8+ are not as accurate (generally) as those around the 0.765 mark.
I've revisited your excellent video just now, as I've been doing extensive ammo testing with these and other brands of ammo from my almost stock 10/22 with BX trigger. I noticed that you are using a Lead Sled. Does the Sled make a big difference in accuracy vs. a conventional bench rest? Do you recommend the SLed for ammo testing? Also, I get much smaller group sizes with CCI 36 gr than with the CCI MM 40 gr round nose. Oddly, I do better with the Aguila 40 gr round nose than the Aguila 38 gr HP. Go figure.
I one-piece probably is more repeatable than a 2 piece but ultimately it's rendered moot for me at 50yrds because the bench I'm on is not as stable as a concrete bench. The best I can recommend is try to test from the same conditions as you shoot because that will lead to the most realistic results for you. Hope you subscribe.
I shoot Aguila 38 grain "Super Extra" 1280 fps jhp, and the same CCI and Federal as you out of my almost stock Ruger 10/22 with BX trigger. Aguila and Mini-mags are nearly the same, with the edge to Aguila, while Federal Auto Match trails far behind. So your results and mine are not the same. It must be the gun?
CCI hollow point didn't shoot well in my 10/22. But regular Minimags group slightly better than Aguila. I've since avoided CCI Swamp People value boxes.
Thanks for the comment. You may not know this but I actually did a separate test with just lead bullets and actually got the same group size for Federal Auto Match, which means that mixing copper and lead probably doesn't make much difference in factory barrels. Detrimental effects from mixing seems to only affect tighter Precision barrels. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UA4QA0L4FNM.html
Perhaps in the first target, as I was getting used to looking through the phone instead of the scope, I was slower. As I continued shooting, I got more comfortable and faster. There was also a bit of time-lapse speed up of the footage between ammo changes to shorten the video. This may make it look like I rushed it but it's just in the edit.
Probably be CCI Mini-Mag hollow points at less than 20m. But I believe other Pewtubers showed in testing that at further than pistol distance. 22LR slow down enough that hollow points do not expand significantly compared to solid CPRN.
There are a bunch of hard hitting super velocity.22 CCI Stingers and Velocitors work great in a lot of.22s as do Aguila Interceptors which come in flat nose and HPs then there’s a Winchester Silver Tips and made for short barrel pistols is Remington Punch and of course there are many many other types of.22 self defense - hunting varmint- critters just watch you tube videos and buy as many as you can find to try out in your personal firearms because what may work great in one of my pistols doesn’t work as good in say my- 15-22 rifle, good luck my friend
@@Moondog2A I get all my ammo on ammo seek they have great deals cci standard 7-10 cents same with aguila standard the blue on and the orange u can find the red and black hollow tip extras for even less
I ABSOULTELLY love the Aguila ammo and I have tried almost all the other 22LR ammo (except CCI which can be 3-5 times as expensive). The COPPER plating leaves absolutely NO lead build-up in my 8 shot Smith and Wesson 22LR revolver barrel rifling. EVERY other manufacture's ammo I have tried has left lead inside the barrel that was extremely hard for me to remove. NOT so with this Aguila 22LR ammo. In addition, I have shot thousands of rounds and maybe 1 failure to fire and that is it - one failure. On sale it cost .04 cents a round so I wait for that price and then I buy in bulk. I am 100% converted to this ammo from this manufacturer and will be a life long customer.
@@Moondog2A I have a "standing page" in my browser tab and I refresh it periodically to catch the SALE prices. My page is on the Sportsman web site (California) and the regular price is 9 cents a round. When it goes on sale at or below 5 cents a round I buy it in bulk so I am always shooting 5 cents or less a round. Good luck !
Haha. I looked more like him when I was younger and about 20lbs lighter. Though I did not get as many groopies as he did. moondogindustries.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/nottigerwoods.png
The federal Automath that you used is not a equal level product to the CCI mini mags and aguila super extras , for christs sake the automatch comes in bulk packs where they are all just thrown in lose , not to mention it's also the cheapest lowest level of copper plated .22lr ammo that federal sells. If you want to do an actual real comparison that is fair all around you should absolutely be using either of the 4 different available weights of the federal Game Shok line of CP .22lr ammo , they make 31, 36 and 38 grain all theee being copper plated hollow points as well as a 40 grain copper plated round nose the are phenomenon ammunition in every single aspect and after shooting many many thousands of Federal Game Shok and CCI Mini Mags of various weights I've concluded withiut a doubt that the Federal Game shock in some areas is just equal but actually to a small extent actually better performing than even the Mini Mags, and hell they are a little cheaper too, you can get a 500 round brick (10 individually packaged 50 packs each in nice little organizer trays) pf any of the Game Shoks for on average $40-45 roughly where as the CCI given dont offer anything larger in quantity than a 300 pack of the mini mags whoch is mearly just 3 separate 100 round plastic trays of Mini mags packed inside of a super thin and flimsy cardboard box or package , the same 100 packs that you will regularly see much of the CCI ammo packaged and sold individually in, so ya get 200 rounds less but considerably more expensive than the federals with the 300 packs of CCI's selling for on average $35-39 , I dunno about you but given on all levels not only are the Federal Mini Mags not just equally as good as the CCI mini mags but as I said they are actually even a little bit better in some aspects so overall in my eyes simply a superior product compared to the overpriced CCI's. However do not get me wrong I buy the CCI mini mags pretty regularly , usually the 36 grain CPHP's , and love them as they are a phenomenal product that is nothing short of the line , however the Federal Game Shoks are simply a hair better in a couple areas based on my
You’re not testing the accuracy of the various bullets as much as you’re testing which is the most accurate in your specific rifle. Pick a different rifle, then another, and another and you’re very likely to get different results.
Yes true. I just want to reiterate this is what I wrote in the video description: "An accuracy test of CCI Mini-Mags, Federal Auto Match, or Aguila Super Extra HV in my factory Ruger 10/22 at 50yrds. Every gun is different so we're looking at everyday accuracy with typical non-match-grade ammo in a typical off-the-shelf semi-auto 22LR rifles. "
I would definitely use this for deer if ut was legal. I own a very special little 50 round box if Aguila Prime Semi Jacketed High Velocity Soft point 40 grains that I have not seen anywhere either before or after the 2020 ammo craze. 1,875 FPS. Definitely holding onto it for when i need it. Not squandering it on nonsense. That’s what the Winchester Value Pack is for. 😊
I found it depends on the gun. For my Ruger 10/22 not really (I did a test and found no discernible difference at 50yrds) but when testing in my CZ 457, absolutely makes a difference to foul with one ammo type. Please subscribe and you'll see more Ammo tests I'll be doing.
True. I'm not claiming this is how this ammo would function in any other rifle other than my Ruger 10/22. Just what a factory 10/22 shooter could expect from these brands of bulk-box ammo. Seasoning really only applies to bolt-action 22LR with tight precision barrels. I did another ammo test where I cleaned the barrel between ammo types and it proved to have no effect on the grouping size of the Federal vs this test. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UA4QA0L4FNM.html
I honestly didn't notice if I was. I wasn't keeping track of which ammo I was using at the time. I was more focused on counting the right number of shots. Be sure to subscribe.
I feel that your test is flawed, you did not match up all the same. All brands have 40 grain bullets with copper. So I watched it but am sure that I wasted my time.
The test wasn't to see which is the best CPRN bullet. It was to see which of the most common grade/brands available at my local gun store grouped the best in my 10/22. Sorry if it wasted your time.