Agust D 'Haegeum' Official MV  

I’m American, and I think one of our countries problems is not knowing the difference between freedom and self indulgence.

haegeum means "to lift a ban" and allowed something that is forbidden , it's also a traditional Korean string instrument

The phone number has a meaning. If you read it backwards you get: -2013 (bts' debut year) -July 9th (armys birthday) -March 9th (Yoongi's birthday)

Yoongi is such a genius, there are so many connections with Daechwita. I love how in both MVs, the person in charge (the king in daechwita and the officer in Haegeum) dies and it resembles him saying goodbye to his past self while also calling out the things that are considered wrong in society. I'm not good at articulating myself and fellow ARMYs correct me if I said something wrong but this is just another masterpiece. 'Haegeum' means 'lifting the ban off something', so fighting for freedom and it is also a Korean string instrument which you heard at the beginning of the song and throughout the song as well on the background. About the freedom and self-indulgence thing: when I looked up the definition of someone who with a 'self-indulgent' personality, it said the following: "Self indulgence is often referred to someone who is being greedy, or is just generally selfish, and it is often seen as a bad thing. Some would say a self-indulgent person thinks about themselves a lot; they over eat, they care only about themselves, they take too much of a good thing." (of course everyone can interpret 'self-indulgence' in their own way but I liked this explanation of it) How I understood that lyric was: Freedom is important and you should fight for your freedom but make sure you know the difference between having freedom and being selfish and taking too much. I am curious to hear other people's take on it as well. sorry for this book that I wrote 😂

Yoongi said he wanted the smoking scenes in the video even if it can't be shown in Korea. This is to show the ridiculous scrutiny put on idols who are caught smoking or vaping and the media ridicules them and they have to publicly apologise. All this while there are wars and major things going on in the world. Basically small things blown out of proportion and idols expected to be perfect 24/7. Let he who is without sin etc. The whole album is fire but I am loving HUH feat. JHope.💜

This song and mv is my new personality for the next month

For me freedom is different from self-indulgence, because freedom is not absolute. One classic example is that freedom of expression should not extend to situation where it can harm others, e.g. hate speech. To take it to extreme, if we take say whatever we want (i.e. self-indulgence), it is possible to hurt someone to the extent that they take their own lives. I was thinking especially in Suga's world, the idol industry can be faced with many toxic fans making extremely hurtful comments, to the extent that there are multiple tragic incidents where the idols have committed suicide because of depression. That's why in the lyrics, Suga also raps "freedom of expression can be reason for somebody's death". Liberty should come with responsibility, and it should not be used selfishly without regard for others.

i dont care what people say .. for me its a mf 10!!! and we need A PSYCHO/ CRAZY/SEXY ACTOR AGUSTD!!!! Haegum as a double meaning.. its a string instument and it mean liberation

nd now our official cursing emoji is a chopstick loll

THE WHOLE ALBUM IS A MASTERPIECE🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

6:06 one army said he(police officer) smiling because he knows yoongi can't kill him because he's his own shadow. On daechwita too yoongi shoots the king (his anger). In haegeum we have 3 yoongi? One the thug yoongi with scar, 2nd the police officer yoongi with scar, and the third one yoongi without scar on his eye. I haven't yet decoded it. Yoongi said to listen to Daechwita>Haegeum>Amygdala in one sitting. Amygdala's mv is not out yet, maybe that'll explain the purpose of non-scarred yoongi? Idk

You're right, it is American anthem to think self-indulgence is a right like freedom. I'm in a good mood so I won't start, but yeah, there's a difference. 💜

A haegeum is an instrument with 2 strings - like a pair of chopsticks. AgustD using music to slay haters, and then using music to feed himself.

Thank you for your appreciation 😊 Suga said watch "Daechwita" + "Haegeum" + "Amygdala" music videos. The trilogy 😊 but "Amygdala" MV will be released next week so you might as well watch the two MVs again before the release of the last one. Can't wait to see your reaction to the whole album, looking forward and excited here 💜💜😁

He just dropped a live. I love that he uses traditional instruments. And it sounds crazy with a live band. Haegeum, besides being a 2 stringed fiddle, is played when you lift a ban. He talks about it in his documentary. Which I think you would enjoy. Drowning means you inhale water into your lungs. Asphyxiation is just the deprivation of air. So the guy is attempting to drown him. Lol I am surprised you didn't catch any of the movie nods to The Dark Knight, Joker and Scarface. I don't remember if you have seen Daechwita or not. The characters are a continuation of a larger story. If you don't resolve your issues, you are doomed to repeat them throughout time. If you haven't seen Daechwita, run don't walk. 😘💜🫰🏻

Haeguem means "lifting of the ban",, "to lift the ban",, "to do which is forbidden",,, well thats what suga and bts always do which others don't have nerves to do😁OUR KINGS💥💜

Hanging out the police car window is like the Joker/the Black Knight. He says watch Daechwita this & Amygdala (not out yet). In order.. Haegeum is a 2 string instrument but it also means lifting bans...

Is he looking at us? "Interpretation is free for all"

for me the ''freedom and self indulgence'' is like you start rebelling, doing what you just feel like doing, to stand up for yourself but you can’t in this society, basically stop playing the game and or the game will fuck you up. i immediately remembered loki's “the bright lure of freedom diminishes your life’s joy in a mad scramble for power” if y'all can understand what im trying to say here lol that's how i interpreted :)

I'd say an American comparison for the Freedom and self-indulgence could be the Yelling Fire in a movie theatre (for your own amusement). Once you do things that are for harm you lose the protection of freedom of speech. But I do agree, that as Americans we are almost militantly taught we can do whatever we want because of a protection of "freedoms" and it's not until you educate yourself and get older do you realize, we still need self-restraint and controls of some freedoms, especially those that have lethal consequences.

I'm in love with this song and MV. SOOOOOO good. Suga is genius

The Director of this MV and of Daechwita is the same and it shows. There are a lot of connections between both videos and I am going to have to go watch them side by side now. I like Haegeum but Daechwita is by far my favorite. I love how he incorporates instruments that are native to his country in with the modern. Thanks for checking this out.

So many parallels to Daechwita. It's the mad king vs the rebel all over again. Detective drunk on power and corrupt AF, rebel getting caught up in it and taking him down. Destroying greed. RE the gun, I feel like he did something similar here to what he did in Daechwita. In that one there was a nod between him and the executioner early in the video, and then the executioner cuts his ropes at the end and provides a gun. So I'm guessing story wise that one of the baddies hid the gun in the barrel for him? So, Haegeum is a traditional 2 string instrument, but it's also talking about the lifting of a ban on things that are forbidden. It's actually a line in the song "This song’s simply about freeing what’s forbidden". He was talking about this in the Road to D Day on Disney+. There's a huge double standard of what's acceptable for an Idol vs someone who's an average Joe. If I smoke, have tattoos, curse like a sailor and have romantic relationships, it's all fine. I might get judged by some people but it doesn't really affect me that much. All of those are things that Idols get CRUCIFIED for in the South Korean media, it can be career ending or at least damaging. So the cigarettes and smoking in the video are very intentional. I,I found it interesting that he used something controversial for idols to set a pile of money on fire. I'm not sure if it's a commentary on how damaging that something like that is to a career, or if he's showing that the money wasn't the point of his actions... I love the end shows him taking kind of trophies from the detective and making them his own. Using the police car to go where he wanted to go and taking the jacket too. I think the chopsticks are a huge metaphor too. He's literally using a tool that is used to feed ourselves to commit violence. Could be capitalism, could be art, could be words... I'm still unpacking this song tbh, he said and showed so much here. It's dense with meaning and it's a lot to wrap my head around.

Alright, here's what I personally understood from the line about differentiating self-indulgence from freedom: In a world where we're all concerned about financial gain and where we've all become part of a system that makes us slaves for money, some people might think of self-indulgence as being financially comfortable; spending merrily on your interests and desires. Self-indulgence can even be a form of greed! In this case, is self-indulgence the same as freedom? What if freedom is more so to do with breaking the shackles of that system? What if freedom involves not thinking about money in the first place or having to incorporate financial matters into our decisions and actions? If someone defines self-indulgence by financial comfortability (which we all arguably do at some point), then maybe this is not truly freedom - we're all still part of the same system.

@Jurnalist, The Korean language has a lot of meaning for the same word sometimes and in this particular word”Haegeum” it means in Korean a string instrument that is played with a bow and it also has another meaning representation of to unlock , release a Ban on something, to overturn prohibition. Agust D he’s definitely talking about the situation‘s that go on in the K-pop world where K-pop idols are not allowed to do certain things if you know this? This is the first time you see smoking in a“” K-pop music video”( technically Agust D is not representing K-pop but I’m generally just speaking on Korean popular music videos that are K-pop) The K-pop idol standards & restrictions that some of the Kpop companies put on their idols is no smoking, no drinking in public ,no clubbing, no dating,no swearing in your music videos or in your conversations when you’re being interviewed ,no showing tattoos in public as well as when you’re performing on stage in a public settings; for example like television shows that they have idols competing against each other! But as of 2023 we’ve seen K-pop idols showing tattoos , and doing some swearing in their music videos so it’s starting to get a little bit more Acceptable .All that is BS but we know that Agust D he doesn’t pull any punches he says you are allowed to express your freedom you can say what you wanna say but just remember if it’s all because you’re doing it for Self indulgence and you’re being selfish and you don’t care what you say and you don’t care if you hurt somebody’s feelings unnecessarily to be unkind we’re not talking about defending yourself ,we’re talking about just outrightly hating and doing that on social media ! just recently one of the K-pop idols MoonBin from k-pop idol group Astro took his own life! So he’s saying whatever you say whatever you do has consequences you do have a responsibility he also talked about RU-vid and how we are a slave to social media and how we think that everything that is done on social media is under a microscope so whatever you say whatever you do on RU-vid or TikTok or any of the social medias you will be accountable. Because people have been shut out of Twitter and other social medias they have been banned so therefore you lose your freedom for what the shit you say and what the shit you do so speak freely but just remember that has consequences ! Are you prepared to take on the consequences as well as the responsibility as a RU-vid reactor! Lol As well as any other social media that you have a channel where you are conversing back-and-forth to the general public! You can speak your mind you can say whatever you want but just remember everything has consequences everything!

The numbers they use on MVs are usually their debut ate, ARMY birthday, their birthday etc...even for the phone numbers XD

Haegeum has a lots of visual story telling

My fellow American view of that self-indulgence vs freedom, is connected to how he was saying (paraphrased) “is it freedom if it’s hurting someone else”. Essentially, self-indulgence to me is being overtly selfish. For example, there’s two portions of a food/dish left and you decide to take both instead of letting someone else who may need the food have it, just because you want it. That, to me, is self indulgence. Do you have the freedom to do that? Absolutely, but when it infringes on somebody else’s rights or needs or hurts someone is when he’s asking if that is truly freedom. You can be free without affecting others negatively.

the fact that he put down acting roles cause he thought he wouldn’t be good at it… I really need him in a movie or k drama 💔

He just dropped a live performance for this song.. like to see your reaction to it, with afcourse the album D-DAY!

Self indulgence can lead to addictions and addictions enslave us. So it's not real freedom.

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Self indulgence and freedom can relate Mill's harm principle. Yes you have freedom but if in having it you harm another is it moral. The trouble is in deciding what constitutes harm. It can vary from feeling miffed/hurt to actual hurting someone such as bullying someone to the point that they take their life. A lot to unpack of course. This is just first impressions. Haegum is an instrument I believe. I guess a new perspective?

Jeez how can one zoom in on a tattoo advert on a shop front while Suga is in the frame about to turn it up! What an anti climax 😂

He pointed out envy and jealousy and putting our own shackles. Wise one.

Your tangents crack me up! Now I have to go look up the correct definition of drowning as well, totally made me question myself 😂 Haegeum is a traditional korean string instrument - it also means 'to lift a ban' / 'liberation'. I really think you would enjoy Suga's documentary: Road to D-Day - you would especially geek out the different studio settings you get to see in it. Looking forward to your reaction to the rest of the album.

Drowning>water enters the lungs, suffocation>oxygen deprivation

Drowning is the process. You don’t have to die to drown.

The live version of stigma in all of the live performances you can tell taehyung’s growth in his vocals. That high note takes you somewhere else!

Thief Yoongi was Luring Corrupt Chief Yoongi out (via the Brazen Robbery) and Enraging him (via the Burning Money) leading to Murdering him (by turning the Henchmen against the Boss). LUMPENS and Yoongi basically did a Compilation of Marvel & DC's Greatest Moments for Haegeum ❤️‍🔥 Raid on the Money House from Luke Cage, Hallway Battle from Daredevil, Police Car Joyride from The Dark Knight, and Innumerable "New Blood Takes the Throne". As a Certified Nerd, I Approve 613% 👍🏽

the "difference" between freedom and self-indulgence is that people should be able to hold their own opinions and express themselves freely but not self-indulge and harm others with said opinions and expression, and try to always say that you're standing is factual, hence the line "freedom of expression could be the cause for someone's death, how could you still call that freedom?"

i think the hidden limits of freedom lies in an existence of choice. many might say having a choice is what freedom is, but the question is who gave you things to choose between? the options we have is a system and the freedom we claim to have then seems more like self indulgence. freedom in it's absolute is too wide you will get more into what yoongi thinks on the matter when you listen to Stange from D-2. the lyrics are existential lol for me the story in the mv revolves around system as well. we have a common confrontation: the righteous against the criminals. easy black and white at first glance, but then the system that's supposed to set the rules of "right things" is just as corrupted as criminals. then who is right and who is more innocent: the one that does dirty sht in shadows or who's not afraid to do forbidden things openly? the man that the criminal yoongi left alive in the noodle shop is his accomplice, that's how in the end he gets a gun hidden in barrel. the whole money theft was not for the sake of money, his attitude actually shows it, he throws it around, burns it, etc. it was a plan to piss of the righteous system and kill it. which is not morally right, to harm and kill other people. but that's where freedom lies if we speak cynically i think the track doesn't give answers, it's just supposed to make you think

- The 25th, the third video of this trilogy comes out, it starts with Daechwita, it follows up with this and the final part of the story is gonna be Amygdala. - Haegeum means two things: It´s a tradicional korean string instrument and it also means, to lift a ban, allowing/unlocking something that was forbbidden. - To spanish, when he says self indulgance it translates to "libertinaje", wich means to act with abandon, making use of the right to freedom but without assuming the consequences of the acts carried out. You are free to do whatever you want but you are also responsible for the consequences your actions have on others and yourself. That is what he means when he says there is a difference.

There’s a theory going round that the police chief in this video is the Yoongi that killed the king in Deachitwa. It shows how capitalism works to separate people further and further from their human values as they gain more position. And as always, the lower class rises up, someone always comes to take it from you (hence them both being killed) you can also see the different scars and how through the music videos it’s heals! Showing that with each version of himself that he is killing he is healing and reaching the person that he wants to be.

this is my phone caller vid ringtone ...such a banger... I can't even answer my phone immediately coz I'll be listening and banging to this song😁

Freedom vs. self indulgence...I don't think he was thinking of this in reference to how it will affect people outside of yourself. I think it's more in the context of "Is what I'm doing in my life actually making me feel free or am I indulging myself because society has told me that this is what freedom is?" We have been fed a narrative that having money and possessions and "power" is freedom. But many people with lots of money and possessions still don't feel free. So what truly is freedom?

The guy drowning him was in the beginning calling the cops aka Agust D with the scar so it was a set up to kill cop version of Agust D

I will never look at red chopsticks the same way

Im sure the definition has come up at least several times by now... Haegeum he is using in song, means unlocking or un-banning, unlimitting or unrestricting. Lifting a ban or resticting of something. For example... you started a new game and you need help and want to join a group/Co-op, but you there's level restriction. At say lvl 15, you were Haegeum to join one. Haegeum is also an tranditional Korean string instrument... If you watch his Weavers live that was on today, you will sill the Haegeum being played. It's the one that has long neck with 2 strings with a bow being played, along with other traditional instruments. They are Homophone. Written in Hangul (Korean) they are spelled the same. However, written in Chinese, the meanings change.

Haegeum is an antique Korean instrument but in Chinese characters it means lifting, removing, a ban or restriction… and red title characters are Chinese btw not Korean.. they also appear in the “tony Montana” scene… (Along with a traditional sword like the one in Daechwita.. The phone number is actually a string of Suga related numbers lol

self indulgence is for example is eating only sweets - what is obviously harmful for the human's health, so it is "freedom" but not freedom - > it is self indulgence.

Haegeum is to lift a ban or freedom from a ban or repression is how I’m taking it. And while he does reference self-indulgence I read the meaning more as over-indulgence. We have endless access to information but the overindulgence kills our imagination. Overindulging in the desire for money, status. Pondering if freedom really makes you free and understanding the difference to be free to do something and losing self control and self regulation just because you can, doesn’t make you free. I’m babbling but that’s kinda the angle I get. 🤷‍♀️

Every new version of Agust D is killing his past selves to move forward and be a better person. Being introspective and realizing what kind of power and influence you have on the world stage, he tries to use it for good. He wants to provide comfort, ask the right questions, point out the real issues now that he can reach more people, so the collective can take part in positive change for the world. He wants freedom AND to become a good person at the same time and sometimes the world tells you that you cant have it both ways. Like you said people define freedom is having the ability to self indulge and to restrict yourself from that is not freedom. I think he is challenging that type of definition or at least exploring it. I think his fans love his music because we are so used to knowing that we have to look into it and learn more. He is not afraid to name his title track songs with Korean words that have different meanings because it is about the whole project for him. I do love the song from the perspective of just a listener because I like the beat, the lyrics are intriguing and the mv is eye catching but I do think the song is a WHOLE lot better when you find out what Haegeum means, when you watch the DDay Documentary where he explains how he approached the song/album, when you listen to the entire album top to bottom and when you have checked out his other mixtapes. It all connects for us like puzzle pieces to create a grander picture. The storyline makes sense, the things he says is not jarring when you know the type of person he is and he is just expressing it. Its music that makes me think of the situations I am in and how I can grow as a person. The reason I think that they have such a loyal fanbase is because we are all in, we were brought in by watching them explain the music they make, we are completely invested. It means something more to them and to us than just musical notes put together enough to keep one occupied for 3 minutes. Sorry for the long winded comments, i am not very good at these lol

One of my thoughts is that in being self indulgent sometimes we become "slaves" to the things we indulge in (drugs, alcohol, excess, etc.). So are we really free? And when I self indulge and end up hurting someone else is that ok? Those are the things that cross my mind when I see those lyrics. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Love your reaction as usual. 💜

6:48 that would be called water boarding my good sir. As an American you should have known that 😂

6:13 💯😂 facts. He’s trying to entice his American viewers with that smoke. I just know the airport be checking through his luggage every time he returns home to see if he brought any MURICAN souvenirs.

The drowning comment killed me 😂😂 but on paper drowning is suffocation by immersion in any liquid. Just so happens that water is the most popular option apparently😂

Well It's taking me awhile to understand the way they say things and feel in Korea is different like how we all have different accents 😊

I always love your honest opinion. My favorite song is Snooze from new album 💓

Your freedom ends where the other person/group's human rights start. If your freedom damages others, it's not freedom anymore, it's self-indulgence. Example: racist people that say racist things against others, and damage their mental health (I'm not even getting into jobs or physical health). That's self-indulgence. But they claim is their "freedom of speech" to say X race people are inferior, ugly, etc. When you want to differentiate one from another, remember, human rights it's the line between one and another.

9:53 a haegeum is a traditional Korean string instrument. It also means to lift bans and allowing forbidden things. I think he’s trying to scmoke some herbal sctuff legally over there. Hence the glass pipes store and whatever else we saw that is illegal in South Korea and other East Asian countries.

Sometimes it’s a good idea to research the song you are reacting to during your reaction video. You can always Google it whenever you don’t know what a word means or if you want the lyrics translation in English. Haegeum refers to a stringed Korean musical instrument similar to a violin. I heard that It also has a dual meaning which is freedom from restraints. I think it is the second meaning he is really getting at in his song.

The album is FIRE

Fun fact, there's such a thing as dry drowning. It's when after a near drowning when you're back on land, your lungs are so inflamed that you end up asphyxiating even hours later. That's why even if you feel OK after almost drowning you should still go to the hospital

With the current trend of social media and self indulgence everyone have giving up on thinking whats happening around us....revolution begins with thought.........

Drowning is sort of a type of suffocation. Suffocation is being deprived of air. Drowning is filling your lungs with water (shrug) XD

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윤기에 대한 관심과 좋은 평가 감사합니다.💜 뮤비 배경은 치외법권 (법보다 힘, 돈이먼저되는사회) 지역인 홍콩의 구룡성체이고、대취타의 연장으로 이 곡도 1인 2역입니다. 해금에서의 일반인인 이상적 자아 슈가와 잠복근무 중인 현실적 자아 경찰을 통해 동일인물의 다른 자아를 표현. 슈가가 2역을 맡은 이유는 그 하나하나도 결국 모두 슈가이기 때문이죠. (큰 맥락에서의 설명은 여기까지만) 해금은 우리 한국의 2천이상 이어온 전통 현악기 중 하나이며 、 취향을 떠나 사람마다 곡 해석이 매우 쉬워 재밌고 그 속에서 심오함을 찾는 즐거움을 누닐수도 있는 반면에 반대로 윤기가 뭔 말을 하는지 도통 이해할 수 없어 아주 어려울 수도 있는 곡 입니다. 금지 된 것으로부터 해방. 🟣🟪

True freedom is not getting arrested/killed/etc. for being "different", in my opinion. True freedom is having the space to speak your mind and follow your own path regardless of surrounding ideologies, culture and government. True freedom is being able to dress how you want, look how you want, do what you want without scrutiny, malice or straight up threats coming your way. True freedom is being able to live how you want in peace. That's not the same as self-indulgence. You may have the resources to buy something everyone will hate you for, a ridiculous outfit or some piece of land, because you have that freedom of choice. But your hands can still be tied, your mouth sealed by someone you cannot even reach. We all belong to a system and that system has immense power over us.

Thanks for your reaction! I didn't know what Haegeum meant either until I googled it. I hear you say that a lot when you're reacting to BTS music. And you may say that for other artists that you react to however I only watch your BTS reactions. I don't think most of us who aren't Korean understand much of their music that's why there's so many translations/definitions that fans provide for the fandom. I would have liked for you to have googled the definition during the reaction that would have provided us with YOUR interpretation of the meaning of the word and how it relates to the song.

I've listened to it a number of time's already I really like it. Indulgence is fine in moderation however it can become a vice to the detriment of others and yourself as that's when it effects friends, family and the wider society it can becomes selfish greed. Freedom come's with responsibility. I'm free to be indulgent but as I'm a responsible person I should be careful with how indulgent I might become. It's like most things in life it's finding that balance.

I gave it an 8 too until I heard it in the car.. definitely a replay for me. And a tip tho.. if you don't know what he's saying you can Google it my friend 😂

To me context is everything. Imo freedom here represents a maturity that the self-indulgence concept lacks straight up. Are you/we mature about our freedoms or are we self-absorbed about them?

To me what we call self indulgence today is want of that new car, that new watch, that new phone, money, more comfort. Everything for you. But nothing of you own. All of these are what's fed to you and you lap it up like a dog. You live your life earning money just so you could live, you along the way enjoy what's there and are content. You don't look, you have no reason to. And so you don't see. And to the society, the heart of the system, that is freedom. To the people with all of their laws, their morals, their etiquette who never look at life and see life, who have begun in the middle, on the top of what is learnt and known and build from there and call it theirs, to all of them that is life. And well as we increased in numbers and our community grew that was essential. Law and morals exist to decrease conflict. Judgement is just what you see. And we all in all that indulge. Freedom isn't this though. Freedom is what you make of things, what you create and choose, whether that be from what exists and/or from nothing. This is quite a zen concept though. Don't think this would be practical.😂 Not unless you lose your desire to rise above the rest and well that's not going anywhere. People with these thoughts usually end up at the top of mountains; Hell, even I keep it suppressed. I'm kinda impressed by him for saying this in the thick of it. Man's using his influence well. Well, it's AGUST D.

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Self indulgence ends where it harms others or perhaps even yourself. As expected it’s both a banger, musically so good, and lyrically I’ll be reflecting on this one for a long long time.

near drowning...difference between drowning and suffocating is inhaling water into your lungs

That's not drowning, it's waterboarding, topically you wouldn't drown from it. It's a form of torture, typically used as an interrogation technique.

This is what I saw in the video, not counting any other theories out there. I saw a corrupt cop, looks a bit yakuza like, coming at a thief who is doing what he wants to indulge whatever he feels like (even a fish in a water bottle cooler). So who's in the wrong between them? Do they both negate each other's wrongs? (Burning of the money they both wanted) For their own self indulgence, is that freedom that people talk about. Regardless of what you self indulge in, if it infringes on what others call their freedom, there's going to be consequences. That's just my two cents out there on this one. I see something different every time I watch it though.

agustD what an actor😎😎😎

I’ve been waiting for your reaction on this!! 💜

I suppose that self indulgence can also mean that you're a slave of what you're indulgent of.

I agree with Stigma

4 me personally, i think if we are free to self indulge, but being overly indulgent, isn't as free as it seems, cuz we r ruled by our desires or emotions-which can damage urself & others...we r free 2 do that, but is it freeing 2 do that? not sayin that is how agust d feels, but that is how i feel about the difference ✌💜🙏

Differens is that your lungs fill with water

well I haven't looked it up, but I would say suffocating is not being able to breath and drowning is breathing in water.. 🤷🏼‍♀️

This album is AMAZING. My favorite tracks are Haegeum, Amygdala, Snooze, and HUH?!

Every time yoongi released a song with Lyrics Like that people get mad on Twitter and weel their faves are targeted, like if the shoe fit....Well hello Cinderella 😂

Freedom of speech has a purpose - to invoke change. Self-indulgence is everyone posting their opinions, out of a sense of self-importance... And calling it freedom of speech. But really, they just like the sound of their own voice.

the like the meaning of the song/mv, here are some interpretations i saw on twitter: I think that is interesting that the original agust d became the mad king and the d-2 agust d became a rich looking cop idk if that's his intention but it very much reads as a critique on corruption by money and power. especially as he kills them both at the end self critique? a critique of the system? both? definitely both. basically saying that with power and money you could always easily become everything you swore to hate at the beginning. also every day you see artists who went from nothing become so unrecognizable once they had a taste of money you know what i find funny in both daechwita and haegeum? That scarred ass version of Yoongi NEVER fights back. He got shot in both and didn't even try to fight back. It's like he's either aware this is always gonna be his fate or he just wants to disappear. it also feels like he's very condescending, smirking as he gets shot, almost like he's saying "i will be back" like i feel the policeman is truly the king reincarnated, yoongi killed the king, the "proud, boastful, greedy" part of him thinking that was it, but then he just comes back still the same that's kinda like his inner demons never really leaving and always being in the back of his mind

The difference is water.

Each individual has to figure out for themself the difference between fighting for one's/their freedom and them self-indulging, the effects of which might not be obviously visible, but might be harmful to society and the world in general, which includes other people! How I interpret it is in these times of social media, we pretend and sometimes live in the illusion that we are fighting for freedom/some just cause (which might at times hurt/break other people)but in reality forget to realise and understand what our actions stem from, whether they stem from the unselfish need for doing good to society or from our sense of addressing our sense of grandiosity, a form of selfishness or sometimes just the need to release our frustration. This lack of self-reflection/thoughtlessness makes us say and do a lot of "stupid" things as we mistake self-indulgence/selfishness for freedom! That's how at least I (knowing somewhat of the way Suga and other members of BTS think of the world) interpret the phrase! Sorry for this long comment! I hope I made some sense!

Filmed in Thailand :)😊

I love this song and video. But I have to admit that the live version is better. 🙂

Stigma live is definitely the one…!

In Catholic philosophy, freedom means being able to do what one OUGHT to do (ability to live by your principles) ; but self-indulgence is freedom to do what one WANTS to do, which is just licentiousness (having no principles)

pretty sure being held underwater to prevent you from breathing is called waterboarding

I was waiting for you

Maybe waterboarding if you Don't Drown that was a punishment waterboard