Ahsoka is half over. It left off on the fan service of fan service notes, but how has the first half of the series been thus far? Here are my thoughts...
The look on Jeremy's face when he makes a bad joke about renaming "The Empire" and halfway through realises that he is probably 100% on target. Priceless.
I feel like Ray Stevenson was truly meant for the Baylan role. He just embodies that character so well. So sad that he wasn’t able to see everyone’s reaction to him. RIP
No. Ray had that effect on fanboys. Same thing was said about Blackbeard. Same thing was said about Titus Pullo. The sign of a great actor is that you see them as their character, not irl. Example; Heath Ledgers Joker
What do you mean born to play Babylon? He is the only version of Baylor to ever exist or be portrayed in canon. Maybe if he was already a character from comics.
Yeah I found that odd. Like as someone who watched Rebels, Sabine's ignorance of the Force is a bit odd. You knew Ezra, you knew Kanan! The guy literally learned how to see with the Force! Why are you questioning this?!
She also has trouble using the Force because her midichlorian count is extremely low. It’s not just matter of belief, but the matter of talent as they mentioned.
I’ve been watching Jeremy for 10 years now, if not longer. He’s found his grove with his editing, keeping his thoughts tight while also blending in humor. Very easy to get through his videos. He’s a beacon of consistency in an ever-changing world.
When Ahsoka was trying to get the map by grabbing it I couldn't help but think what if she had some magical power like a force that would help her do it.
@@conormurphy4328this! I have enjoyed Ahsoka and I don't agree with everything he says but his criticisms are fairly reasonable. He's not a whiny bitch like a lot of creators are
I think Baylan is such a cool character because he is a dark side user through and through. He calls upon the dark side of the force but doesn’t fall to it. He’s a soldier and a pragmatist, not a selfish villain
How has he not fallen to the dark side. He is willing to kill millions for his own power. That sounds like a dark side user to everyone... you don't have to be sith to fall to the dark side. The witches of dathomir are non sith darksiders.
Funny story, my mom has been watching Ashoka by itself and while she’s liking it she is confused on what’s happening. So I forced her to watch Clone Wars and Rebels which she said was for children. We have watched the Maul and Ashoka episodes and Rebels finale and now she wants to watch nothing but Clone Wars and Rebels.
Are you guys insane? Clones wars IS for kids. The Genre is literally “Kids”. The rating is PG… in case you forgot that means Parental Guidance. Parental. As in parents… who have to guide their kids. Yeah, it’s got violence in it, but so does teen titans and Avatar and Naruto and a whole bunch of other shows for kids. Just because it’s violent or shows death doesn’t mean it’s for adults only.
I will never get tired of Jeremy punching me in the face at the end of every video I realized the other day I've been watching his videos for over 5 years. it punched me almost as hard as Jeremy does. it's like the feeling you get when you see someone you went to school with but toa greater effect. thanks for the wonderful memories you created for us film geeks Jeremy a movie never feels complete until I talk about it with you. much love mate, cheers 🍻
It means Andor is the ONLY decent Star Wars content we've gotten since Revenge of the Sith. 🤷🏻♀️😕 And some say the prequels weren't sh*t either, sooo.... um, yikes. lol
I love that Jeremy has turned to the dark-side. He started Disney strong, but recognized halfway through the ST that something was wrong with the Force.
That would be cool... it just involves pretending the sequel trilogy never happened. Which I would support. Thats why I dont give a shit about this show, I have no interest in these disney shows that lead to Luke failing and becoming a coward, Leia creating the most corrupt government in the history of Star Wars, Han failing at everything.
📌Obi-Wan and Ahsoka feel like movies that were stretched out to be 8 episodes. Very little happens in each episode. Each episode doesn't have a distinct identity to them. Compare this to The Expanse or Battlestar Galactica, each episode has a plot, it has the 3-act structure, each episode has a complete story. Episodes of Ahsoka feel like a collection of scenes with very little plot.
I truly believe that not a single person working at Lucas Film was hired based on merit. That’s the only reason I can think of that explains the state of the company.
Baylon Skoll & Shin Hatti are definitely the coolest characters in this show. Seems pretty clear they are gearing up towards a Shin redemption towards the end, so I am excited to see how they incorporate her in Star Wars in general going forward as a somewhat rival to Sabine. She should be an awesome, conflicted character
Maybe towards the end of the series or in the Dave filoni movie but according to leaks she remains a dark jedi at the end of the series and her and baylan stand with Thrawn
could you imagine!? but that's what we were all hoping the sequels would be too...a flourishing jedi order under the tutelage of a wise Luke at his most powerful. They're never going to do it well.
But the can’t retcon Rey. You can’t retcon Kathleen Kennedy or her absolute dumpster fire bullshit decisions. Luke is a fearful asshole who murders colleagues in their sleep now and Rey is flawless, because man bad, women good. God Kathleen Kennedy is a piece of shite.
@@alexm2889 knowing Disney's recent track records, even with a show under Dave Filoni's direction resulting in something "meh"... To be completely honest, i dont think there's hope for Star Wars fans
And that is why they won't do it. Taking a page from The Last Jedi, where they are basically trolling the fandom to just say how things arent going to go how you think....
@@Youarekenough I think filoni is extremely overrated too. A lot of the animated stuff is cheesy and obvious. It's really kids content, even though there are some decent character arcs and action in specific episodes (between the filler!). You see similar on the nose fetch quests with predictable lessons in the worst parts of mando. Even mando was cool at first, but now they've all showed that they were nothing more than gimmicks and couldn't land the plane.
Now imagine trying to watch this without having watched Rebels. After watching the first two episodes, I realized I needed to watch Rebels to get what was going on....then I realized I didn't care that much. Now, Im watching neither. Great review, Jeremy.
I too was not interested in watching Rebels and have found myself struggling to care about some characters in Ahsoka. Overall the show is decent enough (at least compared to other recent SW projects) but as Jeremy noted the story feels rushed, disconnected, and at times irrelevant to the greater SW universe. No matter how forgiving the big budgets and member-berries are, Disney SW will continue to feel distinct from Lucas' worlds because the people who produce, direct, and write these cash cows don't respect just how impressive and layered his vision was.
I had thought it would be the job of the Lucasfilm writing room to ensure strong continuity among all these different projects. Then I heard they were really proud of Aurebesh translation on some random thing, and I was like “ohhhh.”
It's a shame because Ray Stevenson has been awesome. His character is the only complex and interesting character outside of Andor that Disney Star Wars has portrayed. Also, an increasing problem is yhat Disney is leaning on the time period between the trilogies. Jeremy highlights it perfectly. Why is Luke not intervening. Andor sidesteps this because it is the lead up to the rebellion. Abothet huge weakness of the show is it yoo heavily relies on one to have watched Rebels or clunkily has dialogue presented because they are trying to address information the audience who haven't watched rebels needs to know. I've never watched Rebels so I don't any of the history of these characters.
I can answer while Luke isNt intervening, and this is the absolute truth. You may not know the background here, so just trust me if you don't: everyone at lucasfilm who works for Kathleen Kennedy (notice I'm being very specific there,) absolutely despises Luke Skywalker. D E S P I S E S. This is not just a matter of turning Star wars into a girl brand. If this was about turning Star wars into a girl brand, they would not emasculate all the men and turn them into pieces of crap. They'd have strong men and strong women working together. This is about a piece of deep pathology that was probably engendered by Kathleen having to suck an awful lot of c0 ck s to make up for her complete lack of creative talent.
Good Lord it was so hard to follow your dialog but I think I understand the point you were trying to make and I agree. If I hadn't watched Rebels I honestly don't think I would still be watching this show lol
Yeah having watched Rebels, the first three episodes are kind of a chore to get through. The problem I think lies in Disney wanting to have content for future seasons so they just drag out everything so they can get to the "watch next season" tag.
I thought the lightsaber fight on episode four was really cool it was kind of a samurai battle type of thing. I don’t like when people just wave their lightsabers
to be fair though, When you have people like Ewan and Hayden performing at their best with nobody holding them back, there is no "waving" to be seen. it's calculated and believable, as well as hella entertaining. Star Wars lightsaber battles have been pretty meh lately in comparison and it's certainly not due to lack of passion from some of the actors.
Ray Stevenson's character didn't know about Anakin. He read Ahsoka's mind. Just like he did with Sabine afterwards, he mentioned something from their minds/past to throw them off and convince them to stand down. He meant it when he said to Ahsoka that he'd rather not use violence or something to that degree. He showed that by sheathing his lightsaber and talking his way out of fighting Sabine.
@@Infinite_Ethan_03Yeah big agree. I think he might have HEARD about Anakin that's just about it. The line "Everyone in the order knew ABOUT Anakin Skywalker, few would live to see what he became" says to me he didn't KNOW him personally like Ahsoka or Obi-Wan did, just heard stories. He was the legendary "Hero Without Fear" gotta love me some propoganda BS lol. Anakin was petrified a lot of the time, especially about losing those he loved, which is WHY he turned into Darth Vader. But naaaaaaaaah let's just put a TON of pressure on what, a 19, 20 year old man? That'll be fine lol
It's just baffling to me why they're directing Rosario Dawson to act as stoic and bored as possible, because she is a great actress who can be an amazing live-action Ahsoka. It's just that, for some reason, they're really making her not be as lively as animated Ahsoka.
She's playing off of rebels ahsoka, not clone wars ahsoka. Rebels ahsoka was also the same demeanor wise. More stern and reserved, she's aged so this makes sense
Rosario Dawson Sucks as Ahsoka she is ridiculously miscast her performance is boring dull and she has the personality of a block of wood. She is the worst character in her own show. Ashley Eckstein is Ahsoka FACT
The most frustrating part of this show, is that the entire season would have played out in ONE episode on Rebels. But they drew it out for a whole season.
I like it so far, but I seem to like the "bad guys" more and I want their backstories. It wasn't just smoke coming out of the inquisitor's body, that was Nightsister's magic to animate a dead body, and its bee used before in the animated series.
Honestly, I want the Bad guys to be so scary, I would love to see Sabine sliced in so many peices that they only show a red puddle where she drew her last breath. None of these bad guys are ruthless, and its quite boring when a well trained force fighter can't kill someone who can't channel the force. These sith suck that bad! Looking forward to Ahsoka losing a hand like a Skywalker, and Sabine being sacrificed like a pig.
If Ahsoka had come out before we got tired- maybe after Mandolorean season 2- I think we’d be more forgiving of a lot of its issues. The wooden acting is pretty unforgivable, but I can see some of the leaps they take with the story working in another time. They imply that Ahsoka and Sabine go off together in the final scene of Rebels, but it’s never made clear that this was training. I think it is implied that Sabine is very minimally force sensitive a couple times in the series when she trains with Kanan. It would have been a ballsy move if they did kill Sabine in the first episode. That would have really introduced stakes, given Ahsoka some personal motivation, and set the show apart from the cookie cutter formula it’s pursuing now. Kill Sabine, make ahsoka battle with the vengeance of the dark side and see herself follow in the dark footsteps of her master- how great would that storyline have been!? I’ve got problems with most of the casting. Rosario Dawson should be great, but she’s not. According to the timeline, Sabine should be like 35 at this point in the show, so the actress just seems to young to me- including how she portrays the character. Hera grew on me, and she’s one of the only rebels characters that retains a hint of her personality from the show. I think episode 4 set up a lot interesting places to take the show… will it go there? Probably not, but I’m a hopeless optimist.
I stopped watching after TLJ so it wouldn’t have mattered to me. Now I only listen to reviews and trash talk podcasts, laughing my ass off at people who still give the Rodent House their time and money.
Ray's character is probably the father of the apprentice. I think Ray's character was a Jedi or peer to Anakin and both had secret relationships that led to getting their partners preggo but in Ray's case, the baby survives and he carries on as an exile protecting his child and also teaching her the ways of the force in non jedi way
@@alexmartin3143 probably to hide the truth? basically I see what Ray's character could have been if Anakin found out his kids survived and he gave up being a sith or jedi
I do love how Ahsoka tried one lesson with Grogu and immediately afterwards said 'no, teaching you is a bad idea because you're too attached to the Mandalorian. Attachments can make you vulnerable.' Naturally she then gets the great idea to try again with Sabine, who she already apparently tried and failed to train, whilst taking her along on a mission that is routed in her attachment to someone else. (On top of there being no setup in the past to suggest she was force sensitive and the fact that the mission could determine the fate of the entire galaxy, so you probably want the best, fully trained, level headed people to go along with you) Personally I'm in the 'meh' boat with this show so far, it's better than a lot of the other shows we've seen recently, but doesn't hold a candle to the likes of Andor.
Everyone knows that because one thing is good, not all things should necessarily be that one good thing. Example: Oreos are good, but not all food should be Oreos. Fuck that, all Star Wars should be Andor.
@@chriscueva1866 You've got a good point. It doesn't need to be the same style or anything like that, just quality wise everything should strive for that.
@@tomtudorweaver1078 everything about Andor worked more than any other Star Wars thing during the Disney age ( some of the comics being an exception) so I say just copy Andor until it doesn’t work anymore. What do they got to lose? Toy sales, I guess.
@@chriscueva1866 True. I know there's a lot about Disney Star Wars that isn't viewed too fondly, but I'm glad we got Andor out of it, to me that's the first truly great piece of Star Wars TV we've had.
I didn't know about any of this Thrawn business before and that and the map and the giant circular ship were interesting enough for me. This last episode pushed it from 'Meh' to 'This is good'. The fights were pretty inventive and it really looked like they were trying to kill each other, instead of just dancing with lightsabers.
I firmly believe that replacing the "writers" - who are currently striking because they legitimately think they're still not getting paid enough for their "amazing" work - with an AI, would result in a longterm improvement ^^
I understand the complaint about Ahsoka being bored, but Sabine gives off a more irritated, frustrated, impatient vibe which I think suits her imo. My complaint on her character is why she went back to training with Ahsoka despite the fact she has shown ZERO ability to connect with the Force
@@Geeksmithingshe clearly had fears of training Grogu wrong because he is strong in the force. He could be another Darth Vader. And it is implied that while she does see it as Sabine's fault for their training ended, she carries a bit of guilt or sadness for that. So her past with Sabine actually informs her decision with Grogu.
I feel as though they really missed an opportunity with the General. Her responses to challenges to her authority are always basically "Really?" I'd like to see her be assertive and still keep that relaxed confidence. Disney has trouble writing good leaders. Probably because Disney doesn't hire very many good examples.
I think grogu should've been Ashokas apprentice. He didn't fit in the last season of the Mandalorian and I think his presence in this series would've gave it some character.
@@willcairns8022 like him or not he's here to stay but I think you would've liked him if they kept the plot in Mando season by leaving him the Jedis and seeing him progressing. Imagine a slightly taller grogu who can actually pronounce words.
To have someone like Sebastian Stan play a matured Luke would be incredible. Disney seem to always struggle with de aging when youtubers are nailing it. I feel that they're better off just getting a talented actor to continue the legacy
I agree w this. There's no way someone just jumping in would know that the inquisitor Ahsoka fought died in the temple on Malachor & was brought back by the night sisters (hence the green smoke). They would be totally confused by whats happened. The series is also making me really dislike Sabine & get super bored of Ahsoka. Both these characters are acting completely opposite from the 4 seasons of Rebels (& 7 seasons of CWs) we've seen. And i really HATE people using the excuse that "they've been through a lot". Uhh...we've seen both these characters lose everything & still not act like this. I mean Sabine just handing over something that will cause another war like its nothing is so far from her laid out Rebels character? Oh & this force storyline w Sabine?? its making anything special about the force mean absolutely nothing. Weve already seen her (lightsaber) train w Kanan & Ezra, you would think that would have popped up. Also, the whole midichlorian count/force user thing is just completely erased out if anyone or anything can tap into it. The only character I'm actually interested in so far is Huyang. I'd rather see a show about him & how he helped younglings with their lightsabers than what we're getting so far.
Totally agree. Luke is supposed to be a trained Jedi at this point, so why is he not involved? The viewers going nuts for Episode 4 are like people who have been forced to drink toilet water for a couple of years being overwhelmed they finally get to drink real water. That should be the point. After 10 years, why are we still being crumbs to keep us viewing? So tired of bad Star Wars.
Personally, I don’t mind Luke doing other things off screen at the moment. Sure, I would love to see him become a stable of the new series but the thing is... Mark Hamill is not thirty anymore and those cgi faces Lucasfilm are pulling these days don’t look convincing half the time. Just look at Hayden Christensen in the most recent episode. He looks off and he hasn’t even changed all that much in real life. So I get why they want to keep using Luke in live action at a minimal.
The problem with these new Star Wars shows except Andor. It rushes itself to the point you can't obsorb the story enough to care. The budget is great and the action is passable. Story is there and I would say well written but the direction doesn't give the viewer to breathe and process things. It's snappy at the worst times. The recent Mandalorian seaaon pacing was overwhelming for me that I just didn't care. Bo Katan was an amazing addition to that show but her arc felt so rushed I didn't feel anything when she became part of the Mandalorians and this is a character we've been following since Clone Wars animated series so what she's doing IS A BIG DEAL but the weight of her story arc just wasn't there for me I didn't feel much and this was her season. Ashoka is feeling the same. So many beloved characters but no emotion behind it for me. I should feel something from these people but I don't.
It started off really slow. I think they were trying to introduce the characters to a general audience who hadn’t seen Rebels. But, episode 4 was great in my opinion. I can’t wait to see the next episode.
it started unnecessarily empty: why is Ahsoka pursuing Thrawn? before Sabine gets owned, Thrawn is successfully stranded outside any opportunity for him to get retrieved; like Ahsoka, as long as you retain possession of the map orb whether you can read it or not, you determine whether the enemy can get to Thrawn… had you let the HK droids nuke it on the temple grounds, you’d be doing a superior job of guaranteeing his banishment but … ok, you bring it Sabine, clearly you’re motivated to pursue Thrawn on a different priority than Sabine does, but you don’t have a conversation about it? Sabine clearly knows her priorities aren’t the same as Ahsoka’s but you don’t address it until you catch up to the goons who only have it because you botched the possession? Eps 1-3 are a bad game of 🏈 football
Sometimes you hear someone reviewing something and everything they suggest could have been makes so much sense. It makes you wonder why the person isn’t making the show and the actual writer is searching for work.
It's the advantage of hindsight. It's much easier to watch an episode and critique writing choices than it is to sit in front of a blank Word document trying to figure out how to make your plot connect to the ridiculously huge cannon you're a part of. Not that criticism or fan rewrites are at all invalid, it's just different.
Jeremy does not understand what the force is so I can't really take his complaints seriously. it's not about IF you have the force, everybody in SW has the force even Jabba the Hutt. It's a matter of will to learn to control the force and talent. The reason they use the term: Force-sensitive is that some people have natural talent (miniclorians). So Sabine does have the force, the will to learn, it's just a matter of time before she can use it.
Yeah but that doesn't mean just open a force school and everyone will learn it and that's not even the complaint, it's that the Sabine's character was changed significantly as being capable of using the force and not being capable of using the force is a big change for a character in star wars and they just sell it like hot potatoes and what is there to bitch about, I mean Sabine should be dead by that lightsaber impalement surgery that she got.
Strange. This is the first thing since the prequels thats genuinely felt like like George Lucas Star Wars to me. Ahsokas stoicism makes perfect sense in the timeline and suits a more mature version of her rebels character. Episode 4 from start to finish I thought was perfect and if people dont like it, well, I've no idea what they feel is Star Wars anymore.
People are just desperate to hate on this show. Not that Disney and Lucasfilm don't deserve a backlash, but the level of nitpicking and ignorance for the sake of it is pathetic.
@@Ruylopez778dude I have watched rebels, characters had more weight to them. This is feeling like a stale meal. We are halfway through and we don't yet have anything going on. I liked the first episode only.
I feel like we haven’t been shown or told enough about what all has happened with Ahsoka and Sabine over the last 8-9 years, and because of it we’re seeing characters who are depressed while not knowing why. That said, I disagree with the Ahsoka/Luke take because I don’t think she wants to rebuild the Order like he does. She recognizes the need for something like one, but her history wouldn’t lead her to really want to be in one.
@@darnellquiggleyI think her knowing Yoda and obi wan trained a 19 year old farm boy was enough to let her know both masters learned from their mistakes and instilled what Luke needed to know about the order while giving him room to do what he wants with the jedi order.
@@darnellquiggley I don't think so. Remember when she first reunited with Anakin in Clone Wars s7? She totally kept her distance, kept it to strictly business, hurting him in the process, without realizing it. And yet he still came to her defense when Obi-Wan just wanted to rush to save the Chancellor, aka play politics. And THAT is why Ahsoka would want NOTHING to do with ANY Jedi Order. It makes sense. Rey was very optimistic when she first started only to run in fear after learning who she was related to. Ahsoka also started the same way, very optimistic, very SNIPPISH, but got worn down over time. The same is said for Ezra Bridger too. It takes a very special kind of inner light to keep going and keep being optimistic even in the darkest of times. And not even Luke Skywalker had that in him and that ALSO makes sense, despite what many believe.
@@TheRibottoStudios DogofWar says he thinks she recognizes the need for one but wouldn’t want to be involved. I just assumed that she would take the chance to give input to not let it become what it became.
I really feel like they're forgetting the show is called Ahsoka. She feels a bit like she did in Rebels: a more misterious and distant version of the character. But it made sense for her to be that way because she wasn't a protagonist, and we were seeing her through Ezra's eyes, a kid who had only heard about the Jedi through rumors and legends. Basically, she feels like a side character in her own show. We don't really know how she feels about anything, like why she cares about stopping Thrawn, other than because "the empire is bad" and she's a good guy, or how she honestly feels about Sabine, other than what she tells Sabine herself. Imagine someone that's seeing this show for the first time, without knowing much about Ahsoka. They are probably very lost and uninterested right now. When she said "We're not here to talk about my past" I almost yelled at the screen "This feels exactly like the place to do that!", but we've yet to see anything that adds to her character. The ending of the episode gives me hope that we might finally get to see more of her backstory. I think these Star Wars shows are suffering a lot from trying to add a plot twist, or a surprise in the later episodes for shock value and hype, but that makes everything that comes before it very uninteresting and uninspired, like you're waiting for the real story to start, and when it does, the show is over.
It’s already predictable. That’s okay, especially in a mythos type setting like Star Wars. The issue is that when the plot is predictable (which again, can be okay) your story is entirely about characters. Why they do things, how they feel about things, becomes the heart of your story. They did this really well in Rebels but this show is absolutely not pulling it off.
@@squamish4244 That's why Andor is great. They did their own thing, without relying on nostalgia bait. I've come to the conclusion that the only star wars content we should get excited about is the stuff with no famous characters, because when one of these SW Disney shows starts shoving too many recognizable characters, the quality tends to go way down.
your standards for low shouldnt be Secret Invasion, that shit is literally rock-fucking bottom, thousands of meters below "low". Ahsoka looks enjoyable if you just turn off your brain, down two daiquiris and have a friend to talk to while you mock the failed attempts at pandering to the audience by using nostalgia but the show isn't much without that.
I’m just glad someone said it. Maybe I just wanted too much as a fan of the animated series. These characters have no personality! Maybe it’s intentional idk. It doesn’t work
I agree with this 100%. Also, the first episode felt like the actors were taking their scenes and their lines slowly on purpose which felt very odd. I had such higher hopes for this series. Especially when compared to Andor and the recent Mando season. It's feeling one dimensional thus far. The Luke Skywalker plotpoint is so relevant and the fact that he's just...not present seems so weird. I agree, Ahsoka wouldn't necessarily be with the Rebels series characters automatically. And yes....another map fetch-quest...I thought Dave Feloni would have baked in a bit more complexity than that. It seems like Star Wars: Girl Power fan service. Which is fine....just give us a well-paced and well structured plot momentum rather than layered head-scratcher moments. Also, I yelled at the TV when the Marrok character just smoked out. Wasted opportunity.
Agreed. I feel like that was evident the most with the actress for Sabine. Every time she’s onscreen she seems very bored and disinterested in everything. There were lines she’d say that I felt could’ve had more emotional weight to it. It’s as if she’s putting minimal effort and making Sabine sulky all the time.
@@StormX6i mean ezra is gone and kanan. They were being hunted. She’s still trying to figure out the force. She’s always been a emotional person. The character for the current setting is fine in terms of tone.
@@2kolbe010stop making excuses for bad writing! Please can you guys just stop🤦. The show sucks! the characters feel NOTHING like the characters from rebels and you know it. If you like the show that's fine but please stop trying to make it seem like what your are watching is accurate in anyway
There *was* a consistent set of rules for force ghosts prior to the Disney era of Star Wars. The rule was that not everyone could be a force ghost, most people simply became one with the Force, and in order to manifest your spirit and personality through the Force after death you would need to undergo specific training. Qui-Gon Jinn never completed that training, so he was never able to actually show himself, but he was able to train Yoda and Obi-Wan on how to do it. Not sure how Anakin picked up on that though, unless Obi-Wan's force ghost visited him.
I didn't "hate watch" like Bobba Fett but Rosario is surprisingly detached in her interpretation of Ashoka this time. I thought she was terrific in the Mandalorian. I agree that the best characters are Ray & his apprentice , great casting there, you are spot on Jeremy!
Baylon could've known that Anakin was Vader since this takes place _after_ ROTJ. That could have become public knowledge after that point. Or atleast not _hidden_ knowledge, something someone like Baylon would be able to find out. Or he may have been an inquisitor, who just never drank the cool aid, just did what he needed to survive and well, met Vader and known since then who he was. if Baylon is around the age Ray Stevenson was (may he rest in peace) then he would've been around 30-35 when the order fell, thus most likley a Jedi Knight or even a Master at that time.... Thus experienced enough to tell who someone is via the force.
Same man, i saw Ray Stevenson first in Rome series. Gone too soon. And yeah, him and his apparentice are pretty much the best parts of this show. I am also liking Morgan the nightsister lady. But i am more excited/concerned about Thrawn. I really hope they do justice to this charecter.
It's like you read my mind....are you a Jedi????? I'm finding with a lot of the Disney/Star Wars series, they keep a constant pace, that being just a notch or two below expectations. The are few amazing "That's the Star Wars I know and love" moments, but for the most part, it's the daily soap opera pacing that never feels like it will peak.
I am also a huge fan of the TV show Rome and of Ray Stevenson because of how good he was in it. It's a damn shame this dud was one of the last things he ever did.
So far they absolutely should have called Thai rebels season 5 but Ashoka herself has had such little character development it’s genuinely crazy tk me. Like Jeremy says Rosario Dawson in daredevil is more Ashoka then she is in this show. She was light hearted and strong which perfectly defines Ashoka she’s not a wooden character that’s super stoic. It’s crazy that Dave feloni has gotten her so wrong. While then outside of the villains all the characters and story is really bad. Idk man Jeremy hit it right Ashoka isn’t Ashoka in this and the rebels story line is really bringing this story down. I would have loved honestly a story of Ashoka on her own dealing with these guys while she’s lamenting in her past and still trying to move forward.
Tl;Dr this show is such mediocre crap Jeremy had to pound a tall glass of bourbon on an off day of culture to get through it. Also your point about Dave filoni getting his own character wrong is just so correct. Daredevil definitely proves that she can play ahsoka like ahsoka was supposed to be. It's got to be some Kathleen Kennedy thing. All the wamen's are strong and independent and completely insufferable. Absolute jerks that no one wants to work with. Yep... that's Kathleen Kennedy.
The creator of the character can still fuck it up, you know? If it completely changed the character without having reason behind it that is sufficient.
Some valid points in this review but a bit unfair to review this series since it isn't complete. Also, I don't think this is merely a continuation of Rebels, I see elements of the 'Heir to the Empire' trilogy by Timothy Zahn and I have a feeling this show is going to end with a flourish. Ray Stevenson's character has definitely been the most interesting for me. Not a Sith, not a Jedi, more of a mercenary with force. He has shades of Count Dooku and a code he lives by, I also respect that. Personally, I've enjoyed the more Jedi-centric story of Ahsoka after the recent Mandalorian and Bobba Fett series, which I loved as well. The map to Thrawn deal is kind of cheesy but look, the bottom line is this, after the abysmal Star Wars movies recently, this is ll we have left. I think Disney has done a pretty great job with the shows, just now with the movies. Additionally, the IMDb rating has been hovering around the 8/10 mark, which is quite high, so the consensus is that the show is a success, thus far. I respect this reviewer and that he is just calling it as he sees it but some of the things he is pointing out are a bit nit-pickey. But, when you watch every major movie and series that comes out, maybe that is what happens to a person?
I can name off at least 10 shows IMBD gave solid scores to that still haven't gotten greenlit for a second season. These shows only cater to a small corner of the Fandom who haven't even read Heir of the empire. I'm glad you guys like it but don't expect anything more from shows that hardly anyone watches.
@@RJCE420 I'm struggling to understand your post, are you saying you don't think Ahsoka will be picked up for a second season? Or that you don't agree with the IMDb score? Or that you just don't like the show? Or all the above? Or none of the above?
@@TandemKnights I don't like any of the disney star wars shows. They are all spin-off of the superior animated clone wars show. Disney is wasting money on side characters and stories that ultimately mean nothing.
Hey Jeremy! Great meeting you at Pax West!! Ahsoka - Cardboard Acting. I cannot get through even one episode. Everything is just. taken from the old trilogy with a lot of Star Wars queues to pop them memberberries. Really just...bad. I know that all of these actors and performers are capable of so much more. I don't get why they are all so reserved. It leaves me with the taste like. this could have been so good but they are failing at every point. I'm going back to Futureman. Your friendly Mario, Greilark xD Ps: update -- episode 4 finally was decent. I watched all the “previously on..” I couldn’t get thru any of the other episodes though. Happy to move on.
Because it isn't. It wastes sooo much time and potential. There are endless shots where nothing happens, no character work, no talking, just waiting, waiting. The plot premises are very weak and make little sense (really? The captain invites onboard the very people he knows are setting up a trap? Ahsoka couldn't open the orb? Why didn't Morgan already secure the map before? etc.). The New Republic plot makes no sense, they have all the evidence in front of them but they (nor Hera) feel like acknowledging it. Dialogue is still and awkward. Feels like Star Wars? Perhaps. But that's about it.
@@12walker92 i guess i could understand how someone would feel this way if they had a stick up their ass, but for normal people it sounds pretty nitpicky. I'm not saying this show's a masterpiece, but your run on paragraph sounds insane lol
I can't watch meh. Glad you're willing to so I know I'm doing the right thing. And you are spot on in your assessment of what should have been the plot.
*But fr tho imagine being a casual fan* and watching this? You’d be asking, “Who are these people?” “Why is the show acting like I should know who they are?” “Anakin had an apprentice?” It’s inaccessible to regular viewers.
@@firstlast9846I remember someone saying that similarly, and the response one Star Wars fan who enjoyed Ahsoka so far said that if so then media literacy is dead because the first two episodes were great setup for those who have not watched the animated shows.
@@firstlast9846 I disagree with this point. Ahsoka is an animated character, that is her origin. Most of the main characters are from Rebels. This show is for those that loved the animated shows, and there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s not for casual fans, it’s for those that loved these characters My problem is the execution. Ahsoka is one of my favorite Star Wars characters of all time. I specifically looked for Ahsoka-centered Clone Wars episodes to rewatch. And here, it seems like her personality has been sapped out of her. I get that she’s older so she’s gonna be more mature, but there’s…nothing personality wise that matches her animated appearances.
Thanks for keeping it real, Jeremy. Too many people lap up these Star Wars shows purely on the member berries alone. This is what leads to more and more crap being pushed out. I speak to my colleagues at work and feel like I'm going crazy, they get so excited for content without really ever thinking about the overall quality. Attention spans are so short now I suppose. We need to expect more from these stories, not be happy with inconsistent, cartoony nonsense. Meh has become the standard to expect, to even be excited by. It's like everyone is happy to put up with multiple episodes of crap just to get their nostalgia fix. Hopefully things can change with more reviews and critiques like yours, Jeremy. Cheers!
Same with both of you!! I don't know why, but whenever I go on the subreddit Star Wars or anywhere else, I feel like an outcast for seeing how meh these TV shows are. If you've seen what good media looks like, whether that be in television, on the movie screen, or in a book, you KNOW when something is good, meh or just plain bad. I also feel that the camera angles (the constant use of wide shots) are really boring and stale. Where's the sense of creativity? Seems very corporate with the lack of close-up shots. I'm always reminded of Jurassic Park, and the scene where Spielberg focuses the camera on the glass of water subtly moving with the "umph" of the T-Rex in the background.
Oh, spirits make Jeremy snarky! I approve. It is nice to hear someone else musing about things I've thought about through the first half of the season. I've accepted I'm old, I simply do not have the connection to the Rebels crew that many seem to have, but I enjoy the Legacy stuff brought in. That said, how does Sabine just shrug off a mortal wound? What just happened to Marrok? Any explanation? No? And yes, Stevenson's character and his apprentice are the two most interesting parts so far. This is making me really nervous when it comes to handling Thrawn, my favorite character of all time. The OG lightsaber fights were better is just one symptom of what I think streaming in general brings to the table: a lack of patience when it comes to creating content. Take your time people, I will wait and I will pay to enjoy your back catalog if you just promise to try and put out quality stuff when it is ready! This is why I wanted to see Thrawn in Andor and not in Ashoka. Oh well, rant over. I hope the last half of the season is better than the first.
Just found you Jeremy. Your cool man, I like your straight to the point honest thoughts. I think Sabine though was always Jedi leaning in TCW. Apart from that, your pretty bang on every point. Niiice.
To be fair, Ray Stevenson's character never said he knew Anakin was Darth Vader, he only said what happened with him, which could be referencing him going bad and having to be killed by Obi-Wan.
@@cable7152 no one ever knew Anakin was a threat. Everyone who saw him change was dead except Yoda. An Yoda never saw another Jedi besides obiwan and Luke. Obiwan did the exact same thing. Fought and then got the kids and went into hiding. Never saw another Jedi until Ezra. I think the way they are saying he knows is because they play heavily on his ability to read thoughts. So maybe at some point he read Vader and got that
@GeminiMaddnezz864lyfe I keep forgetting that Ahsoka takes place after Luke is already a Jedi, I guess plenty of people know that Anakin is Darth, so I guess he was referring to that when he said what happened with Anakin. Plus like you said, the force gives the Jedi greater knowledge. Baylan probably just read Darth's mind or felt it. Btw, the Emperor and Obi-Wan knew and they weren't dead, so not eveyone. Someone with the force could have read Obi's mind. To me it's just another bad sign of Disney convoluting everything with all these shows.
Pretty sad how things have gone. I hope whatever it is they're doing with the Old Republic timeline they take some notes from why Andor is good and everything else seems to be flopping out of the gate.
it's just super weird how the tone is everywhere, like it's super goofy and whimsical, and then other times it's taking itself so seriously. the characters move slow and it seems like they don't know what they're doing lol
Asoka has this droid versed in thousands of years in training Jedi, you would think that it could help Luke out with his new Jedi school, but Asoka’s like nope I’m not even a Jedi but he’s coming with me…
Everything feels so forced, the dialogues so empty "going somewhere?" so cliché, the planting is so obvious "stay together", the won't stay together. I'll keep watching, but this doesn't engage me at all outside the inevitable nostalgia for rebels. I hope I get to see Ezra, who I was ok never seeing again after rebels, but somehow, now I need to see.
has nothing to do with cope, bud. The whiny bitches are coping hard to their whiny bitching. Ahsoka is a great show. Go watch some reactions that aren't from far right dipshits and you'll see SO MANY PEOPLE having a good time with this series.
