Okay, regardless of anyone's opinions on AI art as a whole, everyone should be able to agree that using it in a contest is absolutely cheating, like they should be disqualified immediately
If people really want to to submit Ai stuff to a contest, just make one where that is the idea. If you think what you have is really worth submitting it should stand up in an even playing field. Plus you will get attention of people that actually might want to see it, rather then piss people for a little attention.
@@asdf30111 people have already done AI art competitions, funnily enough in one of them someone cheated in a real photo won, before being disqualified after finding out it wasnt AI
It's a shame that people who drew and designed gorgeous drawings for the competition were snubbed by AI images. There needs to be more control over AI when it comes to art competitions
ai should be used to help people and gain ideas it should not be used as the final deliverable as everything should be drawn yourself and if you are the types to upload ai art and claim it as your own for the most part you are only cheating yourself and you are making yourself look silly
The fact that no one at Pokemon clocked that multiple entries were from one person is honestly so exhausting. And then the use of AI bothers me far more... I hate that someone's AI submissions are standing alongside the other finalists' artwork, let alone in place of other art. Thanks for the information in this video, and the really great point about art being the wrong place for AI: It does have use in other areas but not in a field basically stemming from creators' unique points of view and means of expression
TPC isn’t known for having AI art involved with them so it’s something they wouldn’t think to check for They prob just trust that fans follow the rules it’s not something they would consider double checking I assume they would add new rules for the next contest after the backlash So I don’t blame them I blame the a hole participants who ruin the fun for everyone with these submissions
Definitely. I would guess they were only looking at the artwork they put through and not the names, and it wasn’t obvious untill they reattached the names to the artwork and put them all together online. I also can’t help but wonder how much of a role the language barrier played, Like were the names of the western entrants on their computers in English, or phonetically Japanese, and either way would that have actually made these alieuses, wich are so obvious to us, really so difficult to spot for them?
Plus we're talking about the biggest franchise in the world so I think they likely see similar names all the time. Try to imagine the amount of artists with the words poke or pika in their names @@serpentmaster1323
Your Koraidon and Charizard were so cute! 😭 I'm honestly surprised that the judges didn't manage to catch this AI though, hopefully they'll rejudge these!
I’m thinking that the A.I. submissions may have slip through the checks and the people at the Pokémon company are currently trying to think of a way to prevent another incident like this. I feel bad for the people whose art work got left out because their spots were taken up by the fake art
TPC isn’t known for having AI art involved with them so it’s something they wouldn’t think to check for They prob just trust that fans follow the rules it’s not something they would consider double checking I assume they would add new rules for the next contest after the backlash So I don’t blame them I blame the a hole participants who ruin the fun for everyone with these submissions
Gonna have to do it the old fashion way by "Manually Moderating And Choosing" each and every artwork that's uploaded to the illustrations submission, and thus separate the A.I. art from the actual artist's work. Again, A.I. works are basically mods or cheat codes to make it look the same results that another artist, using an actual tablet, stylus, and art project, but not quite. It's such a shame that comments online, bots, fake users on multiple social media platforms, and A.I. machine websites & online services are running rampant on the internet.
it's fun when ai art accidentally gives itself away because it got confused during some touch up stage about what it had just made seeing the white of the eevee's tail in the air and thinking "ah i must've been making a cloud, let me just make it more cloud like" or seeing a leaf in the background suddenly decide it's in front of the ear and trying to turn it into tufts of fur it gives me hope that image generation will never truly be able to produce perfect images
Even if AI isn’t against the rules if he entered more than 3 illustrations he should be disqualified. As I’m sure you and other artists who only submitted 3 would’ve submitted more but follow the rules correctly. Especially in a contest, if you’re going to be giving away money as a top prize, rules should be enforced. It’s gutting for those who worked hard such as yourself for sure
This is so saddening. If they pay out to people who typed words into a machine to generate AI garbage, what's stopping them from skipping the payment of artists altogether and generating card illustrations from now on? Shame on the people who profit off of other's work and shove them out of the creator space.
I’d also like to mention: The sleeping the pikachu that you pointed out in the video, is also very likely AI. The anatomy is utterly nonsensical on pikachu’s back leg and the painterly style is random and doesn’t follow a pattern like a more intentional painting in that style would.
Gutting is such a perfect way to describe it. I recently changed my laptop background to a cute frog and realized a few days later that it was AI. It’s so obvious now that I spotted it, but gosh sometimes you really gotta look. It’s so saddening :(
the weihang ye entries also have ai jank to them, if you look at the pikachus legs. cannot believe something like this was allowed to happen, i tweeted at the tcg twitter that im not gonna buy any of those cards if an ai image wins, cos they need to know their profits will take a hit if they dont do anything
TPC isn’t known for having AI art involved with them so it’s something they wouldn’t think to check for They prob just trust that fans follow the rules it’s not something they would consider double checking I assume they would add new rules for the next contest after the backlash So I don’t blame them I blame the a hole participants who ruin the fun for everyone with these submissions
AI needs to be banned for art contests,it's so disgraceful to real artists that work their asses off while ai can do shit in 5 minutes with 0 creativity and 0 passion and 0 love
I hope going forward, these kind of contests require you to submit your original file to examine layers for digital pieces, or at the very least required to upload WIPs
I think it's also kind of telling that this happened with Pikachu and Eevee. The two most popular Pokémon in the franchise. The reality is that these AI art programs have a hard time reproducing Pokémon, and can only reproduce the most popular ones. If you type in Eevee into one of those prompts, you'll get an Eevee. However try typing in Glaceon... You instead get a blue Eevee, maybe with some ice themes if you're lucky. I don't see this tech replacing human artists any time soon.
Vigen got 0 maidens and it shows - I hope TPCi fix this and redo the top 300 picks and fix it so that actually talented artists get a proper chance at the win! Your entries were dope af!
3:20 YOUR TOXTRICITY IS AMAZING HOLY SHIT the rendering(or soft shading idk) makes it look really soft and I guess liquid-y, it makes the whole image pop in a really nice way I LOVE IT
The thing I hate most about Ai shovelers is saying the issue is about money, I don’t know about other artists but my issue is that it spits in the face of all time, sacrifices, and mental & emotional stress/struggles learning & improving one's art skills. I have mental disabilities and it’s still a struggle trying to improve myself, so seeing Ai people shitting on artists like this pisses me off.
I just hate how AI takes away the soul and creativity that allows us to express ourselves. Each art form takes hundreds of hours for us to master. It just returns back a hollow product, without any story behind each creation. And it happens in all kinds of arts, music, everything.
Worst thing is it isn't the AI itself doing that. It's other living humans that we could be looking right at and never know. They care so little for the concept of art, and for the works of others, their hard work and focus and determination, that they think nothing of janking it for their own.
Honestly this sucks. Not only for what is (almost certainly) a bunch of AI generated image entries by one person faking having multiple identities but also I wasn't even aware this was a contest that was going on so I wasn't even able to enter it gosh dang it! EDIT: Also I should mention I really liked your entries, the Koraidon especially is extremely cute.
The only problem with that is that those checkers aren't that great and often tag real art as ai and vice versa. They need people to actually go through with training on how to spot AI and if need be, request for the WIP/original file.
@@SpacemanTheo I think that is unluckily because some of the signs that even Phee pointed out could be made by artists as well, either by mistake (like the droplets on Pikachu or the water reflection of the submerged part of Eevee) or by stylistic choice (like the background trees in the aurora Eevee). I take my own self for example, I would have put that Pikathumb where it was or paint the trees individually with brushstrokes. AI art checkers, just like the AI that generated it, don't "see" the piece, they analyze it part by part and lose, for example, stylistic consistency, focusing on what they are trained to recognize as an AI "clue" instead.
This whole situation also unfortunately creates the justification that a large businesses like this will use for not running these types of competitions. Very unfortunate.
TPC isn’t known for having AI art involved with them so it’s something they wouldn’t think to check for They prob just trust that fans follow the rules it’s not something they would consider double checking I assume they would add new rules for the next contest after the backlash So I don’t blame them I blame the a hole participants who ruin the fun for everyone with these submissions
@@madnessarcade7447 It's just that there is absolutely no reason a huge-ass company like Pokemon doesn't bother to at least hire one person who could put the chosen entries into an AI checker and just say "this is AI" so they actually enforce the rules lile they're supposed to. A small company with no funds? Sure. But the company under the #1 world franchise is insane.
Doesn’t help they’re all on Pikachu and Eevee, aka some of the most entry level Pokémon. That just screams “I just learned about this franchise”. Or more likely that they’re more likely to come out “good” from the AI due to being more well known. Either way, gross.
Gotta say, it's pretty unsettling how good ai has gotten to the point where it could seem real at first glance. I remember when ai art was obviously wonky and being used for funny memes, not stealing placements that could be filled by real people.
I completely missed so many AI entrants, its only til I saw other people pointing stuff out that I really looked and realised what they were. AI is so convincing from a distance, but when you look closer that's when it really shows.
This is why I'm uncomfortable with A.I. It's everywhere, and as far as art goes, basically putting artists out of a hobby they may enjoy. I might have joined the art competition myself (if I'd known about it) but I doubt TPC would have chosen artwork designed to appeal to gen 1/2 style sprite work, which I'm currently working on for my own game.
It's crazy that no one could tell that they're AI or that those entries were all by the same person, it really makes you question how exactly they can be considered reliable to judge any actual artwork at all, if this is the level of carelessness they have in a contest that means A LOT to many artists and for which they're even giving out a money prize.
That Koraidon illustration of yours is so good! It doesn't show much of the actual Pokémon... because it's displaying its personality, front and center!!
I've spent a lot of time studying ai generated images, and most have a lot tells. As an inexperienced artist, some of it is difficult to describe, but there's a lot of ways to identify them like the rendering of the colors. I highly recommend that people who care about preventing ai from overtaking real art (and those who don't, should care) take time to look at images that are classified as ai generated to better identify themselves
TPC isn’t known for having AI art involved with them so it’s something they wouldn’t think to check for They prob just trust that fans follow the rules it’s not something they would consider double checking I assume they would add new rules for the next contest after the backlash So I don’t blame them I blame the a hole participants who ruin the fun for everyone with these submissions
@@madnessarcade7447 >not blaming the billion-dollar megacompany that should be able to hire people who are aware of current trends nah lol. the AI submitter is trash but this is a giant wet fart on TCPi's befalf too. no excuse.
@@giganticmoon anything owned by a company is that company's fault in one way or another. In this case, again, it's on them for not hiring people who would know. And if AI was never even thought of or mentioned, why not, when it's been a contentious topic in the art world for years now?
The Pokémon company need to see this, I wanted to enter the contest but I was not old enough to join, but just seeing this makes me feel kind sick., like what the hell Pokémon company.
I know Vigo probably thought "So many people go through life with the same or similar names. John Smith. David Johnson. Why can't I just pretend it's all a coincidence?" But like...maybe he could've used a less unique name?? Course then he goes and makes it worse by submitting a bunch of AI images to boot.
Your Koraidon entry was so cool, and perfect for the sandwich loving dragon. I mean no offense to those who made it. As long as they're not suing AI like the Eevee and Pikachu
They can’t get away with this, if they do that will only empower all “ai artists” to continue this crap Also for the record I do not recognize an ai artist as an artist
AI checkers are definitely not amazing. If I put some of my stuff in there. Stuff made before AI existed like this. They come up 80% or 90%. THE way to check is with human eyes. But guess what? It's getting better all the time, and more and more difficult to discern.
I think Creatures in their poor judgement did not think about AI art at the time, probably due to these tools and programs weren't as easily available back then. It explains why there isn't any mention about it in their rules. Between when the contest was announced and it's deadline, many of these AI tools and programs became public so quickly.
That stinks! Why do people these days use AI art for anything when artists like you do hard work with great details. This is why AI needs to stop being used for stuff like this.
TPC isn’t known for having AI art involved with them so it’s something they wouldn’t think to check for They prob just trust that fans follow the rules it’s not something they would consider double checking I assume they would add new rules for the next contest after the backlash So I don’t blame them I blame the a hole participants who ruin the fun for everyone with these submissions
Know u might not be looking for a broad answer, but consumers see paying for the time and energy spent with human spawned art as an unnecessary expense when an AI software can create “unique” visual content in a few seconds and people only have to pay a subscription fee. The practice diminishes human creativity in all facets, and makes art seem like a job as opposed to a passion
@@purplemismagius28 I disagree. Art made by actual people with love and care makes a stronger impact than AI generated material. Look at the classic paintings of centuries old. The Mona Lisa, the Egyptian Walls, the Paintings of the Norse God Thor. Those were made by actual people way before AI. Artificial generated images do not make the same impact as true work.
@@kaprosuchus9391This doesn’t really seem to be a reason (though there may be other reasons!) not to use ML image generation models for *anything*. For one thing, most people aren’t hiring Leonardo da Vinci, nor a modern equivalent. To say “a great artist would produce a higher quality result”, well, no doubt! but one doesn’t hire an (expensive) great-artist to commission frivolities. Someone looking to purchase the service of “create for me an image depicting ” will always have a trade-off to consider, among monetary costs, wait time, and quality of the piece produced. ML image generation has extremely low wait times compared to a person, and also very low money costs. And, how much these 3 factors matter to the person making the decision, depends on their situation and goals etc. That’s not to say “therefore it is sometimes permissible to use such models.” Rather, it is to say “the fact that a skilled human artist would produce higher quality results, doesn’t imply that it is irrational (relative to their goals) for someone to choose to use such an ML model”
The biggest media franchise in the world doesn’t have the quality control to do even surface level checks for ai? I can maybe see that but how do you not notice the participants names being the exact same?
ahh furret. its so frustrating that people who put actual thought and hard work into their art were sidelined instead of the people who just used soulless ai. thank you for making the video and i hope you get in next time. ps. the bird keeper toby cap looks great. im proud to say i have one too. :)
They have to be really careful with Ai because it would ruin the whole tcg. Not even kidding. They also need to make it strict, such as providing sketches before and after or some type of blueprint or time-lapse. Surprisingly my favorite illustrations of each pokemon dont even look close to Ai🤣. Favorites: Absol: Yumo Eevee: Takekazu Feraligatr: Giacomo Autili Koraidon: Spareribs or YUMA toxtricity: Xous Bidoof: Amara Michaels or Shukuya Fumihide Flygon: yumo Charizard: Teep
There is no reason AI art should be allowed. That's insane. Especially in the case of multiple entrees. This is another L for The Pokémon Company. They keep allowing grifters to ruin experiences in collecting, and now this. They really need to invest in a division specifically to keep their ear to ground, and allow them to make choices that benefit the community.
That koriadon you drew is ADORABLE I LOVE IT! Bet you spent ages on it! Can’t believe pokemon missed the ai trash, sometimes it is hard to distinguish if you are not looking closely.
@@mr.jitterspam9552 If you mean to say that it does a search based on the prompt and takes the things found in this search and combines them, then that’s false. What it does is it starts with random noise, and it makes two guesses, one which is “what small amount of noise was added most recently to the image to produce this” and the other which is “given that the encoding for the caption for the original image was [encoding for the prompt], what bit of noise was added most recently?”. (where both of these estimation processes *are*, of course, “trained” based on the training set, and therefore are a consequence of those images+captions.) and then it takes the difference between these predictions and scales it, and adds that to one of the two, and subtracts that amount of predicted noise from the image, and it then repeats this process, making the image look less like random noise and more like a reasonable image. It might sound like what I’m saying is an attempt to defend the use of such models. Maybe in part? But I think my main concern is just that the criticisms made of it be accurate. In any case, I certainly agree that one shouldn’t submit ML image generation model produced images to competitions which forbid them, and that one shouldn’t deceive people and try to pass off images one produces with such a model as being something one drew oneself.
TPC isn’t known for having AI art involved with them so it’s something they wouldn’t think to check for They prob just trust that fans follow the rules it’s not something they would consider double checking I assume they would add new rules for the next contest after the backlash So I don’t blame them I blame the a hole participants who ruin the fun for everyone with these submissions
Wow not only did they AI generate images but they straight up directly stole other people's art and slapped it on their AI slop, it's strange no one realised these images were AI during selection, but it's so much more egregious they didn't catch the multiple entries.
That is awful and really hecking unfair ^^' I do really hope that the AI art entries get disqualified and are at least against the rules in the future, and also that the person submitting so many entries is maybe disqualified ^^' I'm sorry your art didn't get in, but it looks really pretty, the Koraidon is really cute! And I love the Twitter posts you shared of people's art that didn't get in, too, those look super cool too!
Its insane how within like not even three years AI art went from people just typing in goofy prompts on DALLE for a laugh to people trying to steal competitions, artists being driven out of jobs, meta trying to push everyone into using their shitty art generators, apparently even Google images will show ai generated garbage when you image search now (along with their disastrous AI facts). I used to in the opinion that generating AI images for the sole purpose of fun was fine. If you weren't trying to convince people it was art you actually made or selling it, thats its fine. But the worse the problems gotten the more I've shifted against it entirely. Its a waste of resources and its become a plagiarism free for all too.
Ai art is the worst when it's in the wrong hands. For me as an artist it's frustrating to live in this world that for some reason ignores true genuine well made artwork made by human hands and gives Ai art attention when the hard working artist work get attention in contests. Your artwork looks amazing cuppa phee ❤
TPC isn’t known for having AI art involved with them so it’s something they wouldn’t think to check for They prob just trust that fans follow the rules it’s not something they would consider double checking I assume they would add new rules for the next contest after the backlash So I don’t blame them I blame the a hole participants who ruin the fun for everyone with these submissions
I totally agree; it is so shameful that people are so conditioned to try and cheat the system and undermine those of us who actually use the human condition to create beautiful things🥺😪
We did it everyone! The official Pokémon TCG account on Twitter/X has responded and they stated that they are aware of the situation and have taken action to disqualify the cheaters and to select new winners for the top 300!
Oof, AI has seriously infiltrated the Pokemon Community and it needs to be checked. Theres even worse examples of Ytbers using AI to make designs and stuff... Not naming names but this genuinely sucks as they are causing actually good artists to not get a limelight
seeing your Charizard it actually kinda makes me wanna request a Haxorus piece from you, however, I am more broke then a hobo in the great depression (Sorry in advance if my choice of words was in poor taste) so even if I wanted to, I can't pay you for your work :(
I support people using AI as a tool to achieve stuff that's not possible/plausible in traditional and digital... But holy shit it pisses me off when people use unaltered ai slop, ESPECIALLY when competing. There should be strict rules, competitions are based off skill and there's no skill in downloading a jpeg.
Surprised the one with the GIANT GAP MISSING in Eevee's ear got through... And so surprised that the Pokemon Company let one person in with that many entries :/ very unfair.
Saw a comment saying the only AIs that should be allowed in this contest are the ones from Zero Lab. Which is an adorable image gotta say. I'd also let the Porygon line join if they wanted. Also it really shows the "creativity" of these "artists" that he couldn't even bother to come up with unique names.
We can't harrass the guy anyway. It's illegal. I just hope he drops that attitude of using AI art and goes and actually does something useful with his life.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS! I’ve heard someone describe generative AI as is the largest art heist in history, and it’s so true. It’s poison to creativity and I pray pray pray for it’s downfall/regulation to come sooner than later
I'd _like_ to believe they have at least heard the accusations, but are busy investigating the situation deeper and want to avoid making any premature incorrect responses.
My friend and I love circling all the inconsistencies with AI, and the AI bros writing them off as masterpieces and the bros themselves being better than actual artists, like no... you typed words into a box and pressed the generate button, or the create button. I've examined my fair number of generators and spoken with the minds behind them, and major props to those who have talked to me, as they were very cordial.
AI Art is ruining art. I can't surf an art website without coming across the disturbing looking AI Art 3/5 times! Makes it harder for me to find real new artists too!