AI Generated Alternate History | What if the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth Never Fell? 

Hi Neatling First great idea for a video :D Second can you tell me how you do the maps? What tool do you use and so on? Take care :)

I hate AI. Please don't lose the extreme respect your viewers have for your knowledge of history and understanding of the geopolitics human nature you put into your videos. AI can not understand human nature nor religious and ideological reactions to geopolitical events as your videos have.

Man sent a message a day ago on a video that was posted 3 hours ago. Respect. You should make a video on Venus btw

@@JTL1776man he just made a video on AI generated history, it’s not like he will adopt this into his future videos lol

@@Pigraider268 I do it all in Photoshop. I have a large base world map that I made from putting together various maps I found online and tweaking the colors and such. The land is a separate layer from the background ocean so I can easily select countries and give them colors. Whenever I want to make historical borders, I just find the historical maps I need online and overlay them on my base map in Photoshop. That usually involves some stretching and warping since they aren't always the same kind of map projection. If you don't want to pay for Photoshop I'm sure you can do the same thing in free programs like GIMP as well. Just learn to use Photoshop or a program like GIMP through practice if you want to make similar maps.

I did not realize that until it was pointed out

Same here man

Same here man

isn't that what the video is about? the AI understood, did you?

Yes, GPT 4 is better at changing your prompt input and far better at complexity, so it would be interesting to see how it would do in this example.

The fact that AI thinks that PLC wouldn't be in a perpetual, never-ending war with Russia is just silly.

@@Frugustin we don't know in this history there might be better president in russia, if i remember corecly putin was an past KGB agent and if USSR never happen there also as Third Reich someone better might be in his place

Maybe. We were tolerant nation with multiple religions, minorities and worldviews. We propably just add AI as another type of citizen. While internal yelling and discussion is our tradition rest of world allways known we love freedom and we support everyone who fight for it. And about war with Russia. Catherine the Great was infatuated with our king. He dump her and come back to Commonwealth to promote Constitution. If she was calm there is possibility of personal union and influencing future for more democratic but unfortunatelly ever opinionated Russia.

based A.I. lol 😂

Is it not polish?

Yes. Demise of the Commonwealth had tragic consequences for Europe and the world.

@@plrc4593 Labas Lenke

@@REGameFly 👋

@@plrc4593 indeed

@@plrc4593 After demise of Commonwealth europe,west europe to be more specific, have never been more powerful in relation to rest of the world.

Basically. Poles fought for America in the Independence War (two Continental Army generals were Polish- Tadeusz Kościuszko and Kazimierz Pułaski), for Haitian Slaves who rebelled against France (the same Polish soldiers that Napoleon sent to Haiti to fight the slaves), in South America against the Spanish, for Hungarians in their rebellion against Austria (polish officer, Joseph Bem is a national hero in Hungary), for Greece in their independence war with Ottomans, in the unification of Italy, the first Balkan War (Ottomans vs everyone in the Balkans), as volunteers for France in their wars with Prussia, etc.

On the other hand, one can argue about whether such freedom movements would have existed in the first place if the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth had never experienced partitions.

@@edim108 we did try to polonise the lithuanians and put down many cossack rebellion tho, so it aint that black and white like you make it up to be

@@nexor7809 nothing is that black and white. I didn't mention any of that stuff mostly bc that wasn't the topic, but it absolutely happened and it's nothing to be proud of.

@@nexor7809 The Polonization of Lithuanians wasn't by force like Germanization or Russification, back then it was more worth it to adopt the Polish culture as the Crown part of the Commonwealth was the gateway to the West, to better education, standards of living and Christianity/standings with the Pope, and it doesn't change the fact that there was still a Ruthenian and Lithuanian nobility separate from the Polish. And the Cossacks were bandits, raiding their own people as much as their enemies. It was the Ruthenian nobility who kept petitioning the Crown to deal with the Cossacks.

when "the Swedish flood" 1655-1660 happens all the "holly Europe" grab, murder and demolish most peaceful and tolerant country in the world

As a pole I can confirm

As a pole i like this alternate history and think this is interesting scenario to paly in europa universalis 4 and expended time line mod

As a Lithuanian I like it too

@@Rackel992 We shouldn't be like divorced marriage these days brother. Best wishes to you.

every Pole dreams of weak Germans and weak Russians. and about Polish colonies all over the world. but the United States and China are already there for this ;-D

Yes, but remember it was read by AI ;)

I'm aware, but apparently Elevenlabs (The speech synthesis program that is reading the script) is not. I probably could've just changed the spelling of sejm to make it read it properly, but I felt like keeping it in just to include some of the current limitations of the technology.

@@Neatling LMAO

Sejm... u nas mówi się sejm

@@Mr.DalekLK napisałem im według angielskiej wymowy, sejm by po angielsku przeczytali sedżm, jak na filmie

I mean, it was read by an A.I. what did you expect?

"Polish parlament" perhaps?

@@MR-xq2qy the Senate is also part of the parliament. "Polish lower house" would work fine though and I don't think anyone would complain about it, people just kinda don't like to say "lower house" in the UK it's also almost always called the house of commons... Just calling it the polish house of commons would work too for anyone to lazy to open Google translate and click the little 🔊 button (yeah, Google translate is pretty good at saying foreign words, that's why it's annoying that people butcher words that they use again and again this extremely)

That is impressive knowledge. I happen to know that well, because I am a Pole. I was originally speaking from the point of view that the "sey-gem" pronunciation really does inflict brain damage and any substitute is preferable ;)

At least we don't fight Lithuanian culture like Lithuania fights Poland culture...

​@@Mr.DalekLK but you fight polish culture while Poland use every possible actions to preserve lithuanian culture and language in north-eastern Poland

@@jakub4931 bro, he is not Lithuanian. He literally said that Lithuania is fighting Polish culture, and that Poland doesnt do the same to Lithuanian culture

same, tho our language and culture might've died because lithuanians were just a minority

@@jakub4931 Lithuania didn't occupied polish capital,we have been back stabbed in past from our friend...

Chat gpt probably doesnt bitch about unpaid internships like those interns who wrote speeches for politicians

Podbijam!!!

I would say that we would have like half of the Russia lands and China would take big piece of Siberia. Seems really dangerous and unstable as Russia is a piece of shit but they are capable of stabilization Asia.

Tak jest!

It's not "Russian", it's Muscovian. Rus was a subject of the Commonwealth - Kyivan, Volynian, Siverian, Braclawian and Galician voevodships.

​@@greatsarmatae No, they kept russian throne, Tzar - ruler of every rus people

Beautiful dream. Maybe it's about time to restore the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth? ;)

@@verusmember997 I meant the Commonwealth in the version light :P I.e. Today's Poland + today's Lithuania.

Another scenario: What if Boudicca's rebellion succeeded in driving the Romans out of Great Britain?

Then what the hell would be the point? Just write it yourself.

Spanish even payed some triops and armadas to France and that was not enough.

Rus was not absent. Ruthenians constituted the majority of the population and culturally dominated the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, where even the official language was Ruthenian. Names can confuse, but only those who have no knowledge in the subject. I don't know what you are talking about writing about " constant civil conflict"?

@@cetus4449 you didn't understand the point, there is no doubt GDL was Ruthenian state socially and culturally! But it's not about GDL. Lublin Union has changed administrative order with Rus (Ukraine) getting incorporated into a Crown (with vast autonomy, indeed) from Litva. But Rus elites (dukes, nobility) and nation strived to aquire complete subjectiveness as a third, equal administrative member of the Commonwealth, which was being constantly denied. Necessity of subjectiveness was both practical and in respect to tradition of Rus statehood. Practical matter essentially lied in a phenomena of cossacks, presence of that new social category was inevitably huge (firm conditions of critical defence and advance against Muslims), requiring proper rights fitting it's scale. That would have been possible only if Rus had managed own order and solved external problems independently; particularly Crimean/Ottoman issues. Denies and suppression of indispensable aspirations led to a crucial point of global national war in 1648. Full membership was tried once again in Hadyach agreements 1659, but got rejected too.

"you"?

@Batchest It was an elective monarchy

@Batchest poland never had an "oligarchy" lol

@Batchest oligarchs are not nobles. The two things are different

:D Greetings from Poland 🇵🇱❤🇬🇪

Better for who?

@@LuisAldamiz Everyone, of course.

@@lerneanlion - Not Europeans nor West Asians, who would benefit from not being "in check". Methinks you Anglosaxon/Polish/Turkish.

This will be interesting with Jagiellons dynasty still rules Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and Sehzade Mustafa or Cihangir ( and ancestors ) rules Ottoman Empire. And... Yes, I'm Polish.

​@@LuisAldamiz that's debatable because PLC was one of the most tolerant country in the world where everyone could live in peace until they paid taxes for the crown

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Have you heard about Polish-Swedish union? :P

It's a myth. Who is the third nation here?

@@cetus4449 Even wikipedia contains an article about it (Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian Commonwealth), yet you wrote “it's a myth”. Interesting…

@@januszlepionkoStill can't tell exactly what you mean.... I guess, however, that about the Treaty of Hadiach project. I suggest that you find out who the magnate Niemirycz was behind the project and what his goals were. The guy was heavily involved in political vicissitudes and destabilizing the internal situation in the Rzeczpospolita.

@@cetus4449 “The guy was heavily involved in political vicissitudes and destabilizing the internal situation in the Rzeczpospolita” - this sentence could write only someone who do not know history or who is a fan of русский мир. In either case any discussion with such person is impossible. EOT.

@@januszlepionko Don't act like a complete moron and don't bring your "Russian mir" into the historical discussion. Brak ci innej argumenacji matole? As for the merits: the role of Niemirycz in the turbulent events of the mid-seventeenth century is not sufficiently exposed by historians. However, the public opinion clearly perceived this magant as a traitor, perhaps even more than Radziejowski or Radziwiłł. Although in the name of short-term political goals he changed his religion many times, he was politically connected with the Protestant world, whose representatives debated the destruction of the PLC from the inside using the Zaporozhian Cossacks already during in Treaty of Stuhmsdorf era.

Good point. In an alternative version of history, the PLC would undoubtedly face similar problems (rivalry with the British Empire) as it happened with Russia in history. Geopolitics. But if Constantinople were taken, completely different possibilities would open up. This is why the British did everything to prevent Tsarist Russia from giving up the Black Sea straits.

Greetings from Poland. Please, get rid of that old KGBist. 🙏

@plrc4593 I am living in Germany, so good luck with that.

If Catherine the Great wasnt so infuriated after our king decided to came back to Commonwealth to promote Constitution maybe now we would have nice Commonwealth of Poland, Lithunania and Russia. No communism, no ZSRR and no to ex-KGB president. Maybe it would be nice history. Unfortunatelly anger and politics divide us. Now tyrants promote ever greater division when we all want peacefull life without wars.

@@dariuszblack7956 Yeah, I'm sorry for that. She might have been as great of a politician and commander in chief as she had been in the sheets, yet in the Polish matter, she kind of blew it. There is another great video,btw, where Russia and the Commonwealth unite

Just Photoshop

Yeah, maybe try changing career path.

meh i wouldn't worry about it too much

@@vanbaguette7368 well I'm aspie so that's extremely difficult

@@pkepix5405 yeah it can't be copyrighted

@@Makarosc gotta love oppression of actual non-humans

Good point, but the map represents an alternate reality. And the Kingdom of Poland really had a plan to seize Crimea in the middle of the 17th century.

2:45 Army was starved of found as majority of actull fighters where noblemen and their reteneus. With nearly century of constant wars nobility was starved of resources they would use for sake of upholding laws that gave them privliges and repsoniblities they had. So there really wasn't really "army" only self-orgasnising class of people with strong beliefs, that for last 2 centuries where able to field The moust expensive cavalery style known to man in orded to ensure dominance over any foe. Usually king only fielded artilery and even that wasn't guaranteed. 3:33 PLC was seen through it's history moustly as anachronistic ciurosity, as democracy and highly decentralised state was univeraslly seen an thing that belong to the acient greece and that wouldn't really become viable on european continent untill invention of technologies that speed up information traveling process- like telegram. Modernisation process would have to start before Khmielnitsky's uprising to prevent decline in the first place as fault lines was baked into the system way before they became apparent for people who had any ability to fix it. 5:00 AI got it backwards.Weakness of france - traditional ally of Poland (going back to kingdom of Poland) was one of the reasons why partitions of PLC where possible- as on multiple occaions any moves against poland from german states would be met with some kind of opportunity to smack germans in the ass. But it was long before prussia came to be (as another mistake that was made way before it was in history). By that time prosperity within nobility bred almost modern levels of individualsim and hatered of polish culture to the point that it became un-fasionable to speak Polish and it was opted to speak French. Which was paradoxical as Polish was langua- franca of the region stifeling development and writing down other languages like Lithuanian (but that's antother story)

Well, ChatGPT which came up with the script didn't specify. But I would guess some time in the 1600s. From then on, countless events are just different to make it so the PLC survives and becomes a major power.