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How do you do Iriminage? I find that there are so many variations of this technique.
Today’s video is from our Aikido Summer Seminar in Los Angeles last May.
I taught a few different variations of Iriminage. But the theme throughout was to keep the posture through the whole technique. Lots of people look down as they turn. And this is often a contributing factor to disengagement with their partner from their center.
So you’ll see and hear me tell people to “keep their eyes on the wall” a number of times in this video. And to “draw a line on the wall with their eyes.” In other words, they should pick one point on the wall. Because there are turns involved, they should pick a point on the wall and then keep their eyes at that level as they execute the turns.
I hope today’s video will give you some insight, inspiration, and motivation to help you make the most of your training and take your Aikido to the next level.
Let’s check it out.
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@benflay6038
@benflay6038 Год назад
Hard theres just so many variations the twist of uki shoukders push down uki inside elbiw take ballance
@liasuzukisvirtualdojo6240
@liasuzukisvirtualdojo6240 Год назад
Yes, having so many variations makes it hard, BUT also so much FUN, no?
@benflay6038
@benflay6038 Год назад
@@liasuzukisvirtualdojo6240 definitely and frustrating I learned there slidefirst instead as I do block and continue my arc
@liasuzukisvirtualdojo6240
@liasuzukisvirtualdojo6240 Год назад
@@benflay6038 I see.
@kingofaikido
@kingofaikido 5 месяцев назад
Not very helpful, because reasons weren't given for why it's necessary yo keep the eyes level. I guess I could try it to see if it works but I have found that simply improving my posture in techniques doesn't automatically translate into better technique. Sometimes I find ukes that just walk right past, as if they didn't care if you were at their side, and kuzushi isn't achieved at all. I think it would be helpful if you could indicate more precisely 'the direction' we're supposed to be leading uke. If you don't use your arms at first to sweep away uke's attack, which is what you say and your videos show, this is to slide against his skin...which makes him unable to gauge where you are at the moment you begin to pull him around. The function of the arm at Stage 1 (or entry) must therefore be two or threefold: 1) Redirect his arm just a little to avoid getting hit on the head and 2) stopping his forward progress just a bit, putting the brakes on his forward attack (so that it becomes possible to bring him around us, and 3) sliding along his arm, with your arm, to distress his awareness of where you are. By the time he realizes where you are, in space, due to the sliding action on his skin, his recalibration is off, which gives you the opportunity to exploit this momentary imbalance to begin 'pulling' him, which is, in turn (forgive the pun), a consequence of your turning. The question I have is with the Second Phase: Or 'The Turn'. I think you showed it on your website but, I guess, rather than lead uke around your center, you simply shift weight side to side, don't you, and sink down a bit at the same time, no..? But where would one's consciousness be in the turn. Sinking deeper, seems evident from the video, if we want to send him further out, releasing our arms in this final phase. Thus, in terms of what the arms are doing, aren't there three separate actions..? How do you coordinate this "slide, pull and let-go cycle"? Does it happen naturally? What has to happen to make these three actions transition smoothly? Is this the meaning behind using the eyes like a level..? I think the reason people look down is because their own body is noticing and having to adjust to these changes that you don't describe very well. But, most of all, I want to know the direction we're supposed to lead uke. When you say look at the wall and draw a level line with your eyes, is this 'looking' supposed to lead or precede uke's turn, looking ahead of uke to the space we want him to go in (Tohei sense taught this) or do we look in the same direction as uke (at the same time as uke...looking together in the same direction at the same time) or do we delay looking? I mean, it's possible to start turning uke and look around the room from behind uke's eyes, no..? So, which is it? Tons of times, for me, uke doesn't do the many things I see the ukes doing in this video. They don't bend at the waist. They don't bend back at phase three. And they don't even coil around you when you start turning. Nothing works..!! Therefore, I suspect, I am not doing something correct with my eyes..? Assuming we followed your directions in the video, I am still not sure if the eyes are suppose to look in front of uke, to where you want him to go...is this perpetually one inch or one foot in front of where he is in space...? Or does the point of vision trombone from a few inches in front to a few feet away as the technique progresses..? On the surface, it's kinda confusing otherwise, or shall we say counterintuitive, to say 'look all around the room,' when that feels and sounds totally disconnected to what uke's doing... The hands are monitoring uke's balance after all, which is constantly shifting. But, you say the eyes must be divorced from this and should simply stare into the space around him? Aren't these two instructions contradictory. Stay connected but look around? Can you hear my confusion? I sometimes wish you'd take the beginner's point of view as a starting point, so we can learn the moves less confusingly. Otherwise, it just seems mumbo-jumbo, with a few Japanese phrases thrown in. When do finally get to dance aikido? I've been doing aikido for decades and no one seems capable of teaching the basics so people can actually do it. It's not the most difficult to do but the most frustrating to do because so called 'instructors' don't seem to know how to instruct. It's quite painful to watch in dojo after dojo, sensei after sensei...
@liasuzukisvirtualdojo6240
@liasuzukisvirtualdojo6240 5 месяцев назад
Wow, Keni. There’s so much here! Thanks for taking the time to watch the video, study it, and write all of this out! I’m sorry that I don’t have the time to address EVERYTHING in your comment. but I can at least address your question of keeping the eyes up. I probably said it at another part during the seminar, but it simply didn’t make it into the video. The reason I advise people to keep their eyes at high-level is simply that it’s so much easier to improve one’s posture if the eyes are not looking down at the mat. Of course, there are some high-level practitioners who can maintain good posture, even while looking down, but so many people collapse their chest, and then disengage their center simply because they looked down at their partners hand, or at the mat. Make sense?
@kingofaikido
@kingofaikido 5 месяцев назад
@@liasuzukisvirtualdojo6240 Thanks Lia. Yes, it helps to know the eyes are truly important to stay upright in the movement. And yes, I've also noticed people like Miyamoto sometimes look down and can still do iriminage. Thanks for responding. ;)
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