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Unforgivable!! The Tragic tale of Air Algérie Flight 6289 

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Very few things upset me anymore when I am researching these accident videos.
There is almost always good intent on behalf of all people involved and it is just a combination of technical factors, personalities and sometimes circumstances that ultimately leads to tragedy.
But there are still a few things that can make my blood boil and one of them is blatant lack of respect for procedures and the incredibly important safety role that we pilots play when things start to go wrong.
And in the light of that, todays story should be used as a cautionary tale for any budding professionals out there, be it in aviation or really any other safety-critical industry.
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1. 7T-VEZ, the Boeing 737-200 involved in the accident. (Ken Fielding)
2. Rescuers swarm the crash site of Air Algérie flight 6289 in search of survivors. (CNN)
3. A memorial to the 102 vic􀆟ms now stands at the site of the crash, on the shoulder of the Trans-Sahara highway. (Mechri Omar)

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Комментарии : 6 тыс.   
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 10 месяцев назад
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@evelinalikesplanes
@evelinalikesplanes 10 месяцев назад
Yo mentour, can you do fedex flight 80?
@navaneethkrishna9851
@navaneethkrishna9851 10 месяцев назад
Can you do 1996 Delhi airport disaster
@soupwifey
@soupwifey 10 месяцев назад
Me. 👍🏽
@WhisperedHistory
@WhisperedHistory 10 месяцев назад
I do it just to mark what i have watched
@kostasvrinias7147
@kostasvrinias7147 10 месяцев назад
Me!!!
@jayocaracas
@jayocaracas 10 месяцев назад
I feel really bad for the first officer. That was an incident that turned into a disaster because of the captain's unprofessionalism. Thank you for the amazing content again, Petter and team!
@johnw.3636
@johnw.3636 10 месяцев назад
It sounded like she was doing everything she knew was correct, even catching mistakes. She was very professional and deserved better.
@g.tucker8682
@g.tucker8682 10 месяцев назад
Yes, it's infuriating
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 10 месяцев назад
I suspect sexism, as well as anti-proffesionalism.
@SonicUplift
@SonicUplift 10 месяцев назад
@@lairdcummings9092I had the same thought…
@azmc4940
@azmc4940 10 месяцев назад
When the captain wasn't listening, she should have called company HQ, described the situation, say that she refuses to fly with this man and demand a more competent replacement. They might fire her, but that would have been a good thing in this case. People are just way too timid.
@giggiddy
@giggiddy 10 месяцев назад
I used to compare YT channels to the "professional" stuff that Discovery and History Channel would put out. Frankly, the standard of the industry is now being set by channels like this one. The research, content, and graphics are superior to most other commercially produced shows with huge budgets. Very well done sir! We certainly appreciate what you do.
@SMGJohn_Secondary
@SMGJohn_Secondary 9 месяцев назад
Doubtful
@giggiddy
@giggiddy 9 месяцев назад
@@SMGJohn_Secondary what are you responding to?
@jenmdawg
@jenmdawg 8 месяцев назад
I am unable to watch Discovery or History Channel etc because the music, sound effects and dumbing down along with repetitive script and over the top “news” voice are so inane. Give me “amateur” production where the creator is mindful of the intelligence and interest of their audience over advertisers any day. Yes, many get stuff wrong but I’ve learned so much from high quality commenters who correct, educate and explain things. YT is a great resource - we are lucky.
@erikmorse5089
@erikmorse5089 8 месяцев назад
Yup cable networks stuff is now for kids and gamers and channel surfers it seems. After every commercial break we need a 2 minute "recap" for all the new arrivals. ugh. @@jenmdawg
@MrBlipman
@MrBlipman 8 месяцев назад
I think Mentour uses Flight Sim 2020, or at least it looks like he does.
@barbarachambers7974
@barbarachambers7974 10 месяцев назад
The amount of indifference by the captain is horrifying. He knows damn good and well what should have happened. RIP...
@DustWolphy
@DustWolphy 10 месяцев назад
Sounds like he was more concerned with his ego.
@MarinCipollina
@MarinCipollina 10 месяцев назад
@@DustWolphy What da fuq was so fascinating with the purser anyway? Such a callous disregard for everyone's safety. Truly horrifying.
@LeonardLeon
@LeonardLeon 10 месяцев назад
Yeah...Love it how we all just suppose to gloss over the fact that there was a woman FO in a muslim country. So....no wonder she was disregarded by the captain. And calling out this "cultural quirk" is of course, hateful. We are not allowed to do that. So we don't address it at all...Ever.
@barbarachambers7974
@barbarachambers7974 10 месяцев назад
@@DustWolphy He was indifferent from before the flight to the crisis... which he knew nothing about.
@FNLNFNLN
@FNLNFNLN 10 месяцев назад
@@LeonardLeon Well the issue is absolutely cultural, but the cultural issue isn't islam, it's being traditional and conservative. Go talk to a evangelical christian, or an ultra orthodox jew, fundamentalist hindi, whatever, and you'll get the exact same attitudes. All religions are the same in that the BS they spew is extremely self contradictory and open to interpretation. You can pick and choose and reinterpret any holy book to say whatever you want it to. Most Western countries that happen to be christian dominated just happen to have developed progressively for a couple centuries (let's be real, mostly by exporting the worst parts of their economies to developing countries, and repressing their development), which leads to less disgusting interpretations of their specific holy books.
@smaouh
@smaouh 7 месяцев назад
My cousin died in this plane crash, the only thing I remember is when the military brought him home in a coffin with Algerian flag on it cuz he was a young military ( His first family visit leave ) Maybe he rest in peace. Thanks for the video and all these details.
@genkestrel7254
@genkestrel7254 7 месяцев назад
May he rest in peace. Sorry to hear about the loss of your cousin. I'm pleased this video is helpful for you
@smaouh
@smaouh 7 месяцев назад
@@genkestrel7254 Thank you 🙏 I showed the video to his dad and I translated every word to Kabyle ( Our native language ). He finally got an idea of what happened to his son after all these years.
@genkestrel7254
@genkestrel7254 7 месяцев назад
@@smaouh oh my, that's so sad. But it was good of you to share what happened in this level of detail with his father. Perhaps it was the right time to tell his father
@smaouh
@smaouh 7 месяцев назад
@@genkestrel7254 To be honest I hesitated at first, I know that all this will bring him bad memories but at some point I had to clarify some dark spots cuz here in Algeria they don’t share informations and the official report back then was a mechanical failure and no more details. With this video we really lived the final moments of his life.
@genkestrel7254
@genkestrel7254 7 месяцев назад
@@smaouh I acknowledge your hesitation man, I really do! I can imagine that I would feel very troubled too feeling/learning that there was a cover up. The whole truth is essential. Going through the process of sharing what happened to your cousin with your uncle sounds like something very difficult for you both. I hope that even in a small way he feels a little less heaviness in his heart
@slimanehadjbrahim197
@slimanehadjbrahim197 10 месяцев назад
We lost in this disaster a whole family of a beloved friend and his parents Now its 20 years left Thanks for this amazing work you did to show us what the country will never dare to show
@MendTheWorld
@MendTheWorld 10 месяцев назад
It is very difficult to get a culture that maintains certain defiant attitudes and traditions to face up to their own shortcomings and failures. Yet we MUST always learn about our past failures in order to make progress. I recently watched a RU-vid episode on another channel discussing how Japan has resisted incorporating an honest account of WWII history into their educational curriculum, as Germany has done (for example). It was shocking to read many personal anecdotes in the Comments section confirming that many Japanese grow up with NO KNOWLEDGE about what caused the war, Japan's role in it, the genocides and brutality committed in occupied countries. And I'm not naive about this.... There are many aspects of American history that are not generally taught in school, and NOW reactionary right wing activists want to purge discussions of racism and other topics they find uncomfortable from our public schools. (I live in Texas.... #2 to Florida in authoritarian right-wing manipulation of educational curriculum.) I know it can be very difficult.... but I hope you are able to find ways to help spread the light of truth.
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 10 месяцев назад
I´m wishing the very best to you and to your family! It was such a senseless and avoidable disaster!
@willofdodge1
@willofdodge1 9 месяцев назад
Sorry for your loss
@algardaus
@algardaus 9 месяцев назад
My condolences sir. Pride and stupidity are horrible things for the world. I hope your loved ones are in heaven now.
@haxie4516
@haxie4516 9 месяцев назад
I am so sorry for your loss, my thoughts are with you
@Mari-tr2yr
@Mari-tr2yr 10 месяцев назад
It amazes me how many things pilots need to take into consideration before each flight, the amount of knowledge they must maintain is incredible!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 10 месяцев назад
There is quite a few things to keep track off, yes. But that’s why we have so many procedures to help us.
@ForcefighterX2
@ForcefighterX2 10 месяцев назад
​@@MentourPilot as a software engineer I am quite confused, however, why the airports around the world don't invest into more modern digital systems. For example digitally available weather reports rather than a frequency the pilots have to listen to.
@qhu3878
@qhu3878 10 месяцев назад
​​@@ForcefighterX2the answer is quite simple, money edit, just realised this could be easily misinterpreted so I'm gonna elaborate. modern systems can be really expensive to install, let alone run and maintain, so its often just not financially feasible to install them in smaller airports like the one from this incident
@malcolmwhite6588
@malcolmwhite6588 10 месяцев назад
@@qhu3878 yes and if you install them and don’t have the follow-up systems and management people then rely on them and they are probably less reliable than an old school system which may seem more primitive but more reliable. If you don’t do all its required to manage the upkeep of all the processes involved of the automated or electronic systems
@RunawayTrain2502
@RunawayTrain2502 10 месяцев назад
@@ForcefighterX2 Air Algerie & Tassili Airlines are the only Airlines serving this airport. Tamanrasset, the town it serves has a polulation of about 92.500 and since it's pretty much smack dab in the middle of the Sahara, there isn't a lot else around. I don't think this place is big enough to justify such expendature.
@ZombieSazza
@ZombieSazza 10 месяцев назад
I feel so horribly for the first officer, she was doing her absolute best and was ignored constantly, just not listened to. What a shocker the unprofessionalism by the captain would lead to a horrible incident The sole survivor however is absolutely crazy, if he’d put on his seatbelt he likely wouldn’t have survived
@uclajd
@uclajd 10 месяцев назад
LOL people here still defending the woman FO for being submissive because of big meany captain. TIME TO STAND UP AND ASSERT YOURSELF OR YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS IN THE COCKPIT! Instead she just sat their timidly and let them crash? bEcAuSe SeXiSm. Freaking simps! She was a fail too. Oh boo hoo I feel sorry for the first officer that could have saved the day but she didn't even reach for the damn landing gear lever?!?!?! NOT DOING HER ABSOLUTE BEST! I'm not even a pilot and I would've reached for that damned landing gear lever!
@tommyalbertsson3467
@tommyalbertsson3467 10 месяцев назад
and no one mention the elefant in the room
@manicka111
@manicka111 10 месяцев назад
Imho, she should have refused to continue the take-off without sterile cockpit. The SOPs should be something that protects the junior pilot's career in a case like this
@FNLNFNLN
@FNLNFNLN 10 месяцев назад
@@manicka111 Office politics usually wins out over SOPs.
@malcolmwhite6588
@malcolmwhite6588 10 месяцев назад
@@FNLNFNLNyes depending on the airline, a junior crew member - particularly a woman could have a tough time
@ImpartiallySpeaking
@ImpartiallySpeaking 7 месяцев назад
My father was a steward on BOAC in the 1940s and during regular flights to Sweden, part of his job was to take supplies of alcohol to the pilots. How times have changed!
@Irvingstine
@Irvingstine 6 месяцев назад
You would probably need a drink with how unreliable the planes were back then. And your chances of survival if something went wrong.
@KarlaBedminister
@KarlaBedminister 5 месяцев назад
😮
@leax7061
@leax7061 4 месяца назад
In the 40s 😮?
@GanymedeXD
@GanymedeXD 4 месяца назад
@@leax7061You watch movie or series from 70s/80s and you often wonder did they pour a drink everywhere … driving, flying, operating … who cares … going through old movie mags late 90s … men drinking ads … men smoking ads … men adventure ads … men tech ads … and plenty of the legendary Camel Trophy …
@Tch5802
@Tch5802 3 месяца назад
Back then there were 3 or 4 people in the cockpit, far more than two engines and the airplanes flew at much lower speeds
@johnmahoney2218
@johnmahoney2218 10 месяцев назад
I spent 42 years as a professional pilot, 24 years as a US Navy pilot, and 18 years as an airline pilot, trust me this guy is a professional and really does a great job explaining things to people with no experience or knowledge how to fly these very complex planes. You can believe what he says.
@beachem1
@beachem1 10 месяцев назад
Thanks 🫡
@locks69
@locks69 10 месяцев назад
I've been a pilot for 70+ years. Started flying professionally when I was 10 and joined the SAS when i was 18 as a pilot for 30 years then flew commercially for 30 more years and as a private pilot for the last 10 and i agree with you he does explain things well.
@privateer0561
@privateer0561 10 месяцев назад
​@@locks69Bullshit!
@Boss_Tanaka
@Boss_Tanaka 10 месяцев назад
I spent my whole life as a professional pilot since i was born in the cockpit of a Sabena atr 72 during takeoff at Goteborg international. As my mother who was 1st officer at that time was incapacitated i had to take control since the captain was in the bathroom after a Mexican lunch. So I flew atr 72 during 16 years , 12 years in bombers gliders, 9 years as a drone operator for the France Armée de l’air and 3 years as a stewardess for Emirates after heavy surgery. Trust me You can believe what Mentour says. You can also believe me
@VergilAckerman
@VergilAckerman 10 месяцев назад
not only for common viewer, but for a professional pilot Mentour's videos are of a huge help to become a better professional
@nothoughtsjustphotosynthesis
@nothoughtsjustphotosynthesis 10 месяцев назад
this is a perfect example of when to *not* simply defer to authority at work if that authority figure is behaving in a way you know is unsafe/unprofessional.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 10 месяцев назад
Yep, but it’s a very hard thing to do sometimes.
@nothoughtsjustphotosynthesis
@nothoughtsjustphotosynthesis 10 месяцев назад
@@MentourPilot 100%, I've failed to speak up a few times throughout my career, particularly at the start, when I saw superiors breaking rules/ ignoring protocol that we have in place for very good reasons. It felt daunting & I only work in hospitality, so I can't imagine how much more difficult that's got to be in a cockpit under so much stress! Now that I'm starting to manage a team, both the good & bad examples of CRM from your videos have actually been quite helpful for me, even though it's a different industry.
@Darkvirgo88xx
@Darkvirgo88xx 10 месяцев назад
especially in the air because you dont know how they will react if you try to takeover. there have been so many accidents from pilots having a domineering personality. the general aviation King Air Crash in Addison was caused by this. it had a CVR and the pilot told his right seat pilot dont touch his controls and the right seat pilot actually recgonized that the throttles had crept back but did nothing and they stalled and spun into the hangar at the end of the runway killing them and the passengers.
@gideonwilke5309
@gideonwilke5309 10 месяцев назад
Like wearing your seatbelt?
@Logicalsane
@Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад
​@@Darkvirgo88xx21:45 you are criticizing the male pilot for making mistakes but when female pilot is making mistakes then you are siding with her by giving lame justifications.......... Cut this gender discrimination against men
@TheMarcelism
@TheMarcelism 10 месяцев назад
Who would have guessed, not paying attention to the safety briefing and not fastening his seatbelt ended up saving his life. What a lucky chap!!
@pavelangelis4113
@pavelangelis4113 10 месяцев назад
I´m telling you, safety belts kill more people than they save :)
@flagmichael
@flagmichael 10 месяцев назад
It is better to be lucky than good.
@dominicsavioribera8426
@dominicsavioribera8426 10 месяцев назад
​@@flagmichaelWhat prevails, luck or statistics?
@brandonlins7204
@brandonlins7204 10 месяцев назад
102 people didn't have to go through what he did, imagine what damage getting ejected from an aircraft going 140kph would do to you I doubt be ever walked again lol
@derektaylor2941
@derektaylor2941 10 месяцев назад
LUCKY? Lucky is when you hear "Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to your destination. The time is X, the temperature is Y and please remain seated until the aircraft arrives at the terminal.
@neilammar2527
@neilammar2527 3 месяца назад
Her name was Fatima Yusfi. She was an excellent pilot according to her colleagues and her records. Above all the technical issues and the lack of professionalism on the captain's part there was also an obvious misogyny problem. Mrs Yusfi wasn't the first femme pilot in Algeria but was amongst the first at Air algerie. The company now counts 7.5% of female pilots with a great number of captains and I want to believe that this terrible accident would have definitely had a major impact on the relation and acceptance of women in the cockpit. May all the victims rest in peace and be remembered for ever. Thanks for these excellent video.
@WOWWOW-hk1tb
@WOWWOW-hk1tb Месяц назад
Anyone saying "femme" is a redflag
@thenaturalfooland
@thenaturalfooland Месяц назад
@@WOWWOW-hk1tbYou’re such a loser
@neut9270
@neut9270 Месяц назад
@@WOWWOW-hk1tb femme means woman in french, which is widely used in algeria, why don't you use your brain to put two and two together
@ernestkovach3305
@ernestkovach3305 Месяц назад
FYI alert: manhating sexist comment by a femi Nazi attacking a male without ZERO proof provided.
@cn1364-w6c
@cn1364-w6c Месяц назад
@@WOWWOW-hk1tb Anyone who believes that saying "'femme' is a redflag" is a red flag
@Pablo668
@Pablo668 10 месяцев назад
I'm not a pilot, at all, but even I was squirming in my seat as you put it. The problems were pretty obvious from the get go. I feel sad for the 1st Officer, I think she had the best chance of saving the plane as at least her mind was 100% on the job. To use language that is lacking in any grace, the Captain was a twat.
@dogcarman
@dogcarman 10 месяцев назад
The captain was also lacking in any grace so the language is appropriate.
@philhawley1219
@philhawley1219 10 месяцев назад
The captain was too busy talking to the purser. Why? Because the Arabic race hold women in low regard and they enjoy homosexual relationships even if they are married men with a wife or several wives back at home.Let in not be forgotten that quite a lot of men who work in the glamorous side of the hospitality industry are gay, such as the purser may have been.Nothing wrong with that, but nothing must interfere with the professional execution of your duties on land,sea or in the air. Let the poor little female co-pilot do all the hard work and when something goes wrong, despite the fact she was in competent control of a very dangerous situation Captain Abdul Testosterone suddenly wakes up from his gay wank dream and smashes an aeroplane and everyone aboard into the ground.
@player400_official
@player400_official 10 месяцев назад
Had the captain become incapacitated at the moment of the incident or left with the purser to the galley during takeoff - there would probably be no fatalities, not even injuries. There were countless single-engine failures in the past, overwhelming majority ended with no fatalities. That's one of the instances, where having only 1 pilot is better, than having the other pilot like him. First officer was doing a good job and then he went full panic-mode, interrupted her and messed up.
@Hans_R._Wahl
@Hans_R._Wahl 10 месяцев назад
@@player400_official Indeed, exactly.
@232K7
@232K7 10 месяцев назад
FO should’ve refused to fly. They were operating on thin margins and the captain wasn’t even paying attention. Might as well be flying with someone who’s drunk, nobody should have to put up with that
@mohamedsheriff5328
@mohamedsheriff5328 9 месяцев назад
Imagine being those 3 passengers who were denied due to document issues
@upwaveflash8429
@upwaveflash8429 9 месяцев назад
They will dancing for victory Tho Because the crash was pretty tragic Rest In Peace for those souls that have perished
@giulia6344
@giulia6344 9 месяцев назад
A healthy dose of survivor’s guilt for the rest of their lives. The one passenger who survived too.
@vanesslifeygo
@vanesslifeygo 9 месяцев назад
gosh
@chiefrocka8604
@chiefrocka8604 9 месяцев назад
@@giulia6344yes and no , the anger not getting on losing money in the process then finding out it crashed they will feel like winners forever, the people who stopped them flying will feel shame for eternity
@giulia6344
@giulia6344 9 месяцев назад
@@chiefrocka8604 that’s not how survivor’s guilt works unfortunately. It’s not a rational guilt. I’m fairly sure it does haunt them.
@griffind2862
@griffind2862 10 месяцев назад
Man I can never fathom how quickly these things happen. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="852">14:12</a> pm authorized to line up and <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="855">14:15</a> pm for the dont sink is crazy
@Logicalsane
@Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад
21:45 you are criticizing the male pilot for making mistakes but when female pilot is making mistakes then you are siding with her by giving lame justifications.......... Cut this gender discrimination against men
@lordwheelie
@lordwheelie 8 месяцев назад
Another major overlooked factor could be that of the cultural barrier which would probably hinder a more aged male captain from taking his junior female first officer seriously. The fact that he took back all controls could be a confirmation of this barrier.
@jeanneewaseck6635
@jeanneewaseck6635 8 месяцев назад
YES! Exactly what I was thinking.
@ChrisStavros
@ChrisStavros 8 месяцев назад
I love the fact that we can't really even discuss the real cause, we have to obscure it behind "the cultural barrier".
@alexisbrown8545
@alexisbrown8545 7 месяцев назад
The real cause: An entitled male from a culture that undermines and demeans women in positions pf power couldn't handle having to treat a woman as an equal and a teammate. His ignorance kills himself and all but one of his passengers. misogyny, ego and religous superstition DESTROY common sense 😒
@georgezee5173
@georgezee5173 7 месяцев назад
Man, as soon as Menotur Pilot pointed out the first officer was a woman, taking into account this was Algeria, I instantly guessed what the whole thing was going to be about... Very sad
@jetblackjoy
@jetblackjoy 7 месяцев назад
​@@ChrisStavrosagree. The word "culture" does not make male chauvinism any more respectable or acceptable, but does veil the fact it is neither.
@Shyndree
@Shyndree 10 месяцев назад
I'm shocked that the recommendations didn't include a serious condemnation of Air Algeria working culture. This blatant lack of protocol doesn't ever happen in an environment where it's not accepted. We all know that. This is why some airlines are just not worth the risk of flying with.
@Hans_R._Wahl
@Hans_R._Wahl 10 месяцев назад
Yes, indeed.
@Rogsie-p6l
@Rogsie-p6l 10 месяцев назад
Not much doubt that the macho attitude of the captain, made worse by Muslim culture, was at the root of this incident. It probably also accounts for Air Algeria not being criticised in this regard.
@dh88k
@dh88k 10 месяцев назад
​@@Rogsie-p6l Perhaps. There's a missing piece of the puzzle however, we don't know the content of the conversation between the captain and the purser. Before blaming muslim culture on an obvious breaking of protocols I would like to know if it was just a casual conversation or something more intense as either adversarial or solving company or personal issues. Breaking the sterile cockpit rule and botching the pre-fight check list happens in every culture, you combine that with an engine failure and you can have pretty bad day.
@mikolajtrzeciecki1188
@mikolajtrzeciecki1188 10 месяцев назад
@@dh88k What personal issues are worth discussing when safety of 100 people is in question?
@BishopStars
@BishopStars 10 месяцев назад
​@@dh88kIt doesn't matter what they were discussing, nor whether they were Muslim. What does matter is that they didn't follow procedures regarding CRM, sterile cockpit, checklists, and switching controls.
@ryleighsweet2375
@ryleighsweet2375 10 месяцев назад
Holy cow, I can't even imagine the psychological rollercoaster that it must be to be the only person who survived a disaster specifically because you *weren't* following safety protocols
@jano979797
@jano979797 10 месяцев назад
Final destination vibe
@henkjanvanraikonnen5073
@henkjanvanraikonnen5073 10 месяцев назад
On May 12, 2010, Afriqiyah Airways Flight 771, originating from Johannesburg, crashed just before landing in Tripoli. 103 people were killed. 1 person survived the crash, 9 year old Ruben from the Netherlands. Ruben's parents, brother and sister also died in the crash 😢
@kentgutzmer1977
@kentgutzmer1977 10 месяцев назад
Often, passengers sitting in the tail section live to tell the tail.
@MGower4465
@MGower4465 10 месяцев назад
​@@kentgutzmer1977Which is ironic, since the tail section used to be where cigarette smokers could puff away in flight, giving the people who consciously put their lives at ever-increasing risk many times every day got the seats where they were most likely to survive a crash - but die in a fire.
@DeanStephen
@DeanStephen 10 месяцев назад
@@kentgutzmer1977”tale”
@pleasespellchimerical7202
@pleasespellchimerical7202 10 месяцев назад
Without fail, the most disturbing aviation accidents are those where a lack of respect on one crew member's part towards their colleagues leads to tragedies like this. I have a feeling the FO had faced extensive sexism in her career, but either way, this lack of respect by the captain led to this tragedy. Surprised the investigation didn't do a comprehensive look at the culture of the company, because things like this are usually not one-offs. If someone is allowed to behave this way, they've likely been unchecked for a while.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 10 месяцев назад
I agree
@janegrey9978
@janegrey9978 10 месяцев назад
@@MentourPilot Did you ever speak up for the women who were harassed by the former chief pilot at your own airline?
@arun120977
@arun120977 10 месяцев назад
@@janegrey9978 Probably not.
@YuriyShalak
@YuriyShalak 10 месяцев назад
I wrote my comment before reading this. While totally agree on the subject, I believe that you're too cautious. It is not about the culture of the company. It is about the culture of the society.
@TheDarkOneIsRising
@TheDarkOneIsRising 9 месяцев назад
Being from Algeria and remembering the incident vividly, the general reaction of the people around me was all about "That's what happen when you let women fly planes". So sad to see she did everything right and still had mysoginistic views follow her posthumously
@denizbaroncello9813
@denizbaroncello9813 5 месяцев назад
I am a former Turkish flight attendant that performed Air Algerie flights between 2008-2010. I guess the pilot in command probably was a sexist man and feeling guilty inside to be late for flight. His ego took the plane down. I was a flghy attendant in Istanbul and my company had a wet lease agreement with Air Algerie. in 3 years nearly in every 2 months we had 2 weeks layovers in Algeria. One of my Algerian colleagues had told me this accident and that he lost his beloved female colleage and that female hostess was all burned and black :(( He had told me this story during a ferry flight of Air Algerie aircraft back in 2009, 6 years later this horrific disaster. May them RIP except that pilot in command.
@redshirt49
@redshirt49 4 месяца назад
Dunno about sexism, but panic was probably the biggest factor here. The idea that in an emergency, he should be the one flying the plane was all that was on his brain. Now, it is fairly common for control to be handed to the captain in emergencies. This usually occurs AFTER the immediate phase has been adressed though and the situation has become more stable and in that situation it makes sense for the more experienced aviator to take the controls while the F/O consults the manuals and handles the radio, while also keeping an eye on all the auxiliary instrumentation. The captain's knee-jerk decision to seize controls here didn't make much sense and he let his instincts, rather than his experience do the talking. They had a malfunctioning engine and low air speed. His decision to just pull up harder would of course, inevitable put it into a stall. Notable too, in spite of what the F/O said, the FDR would show she had not, in fact, let go of the yoke. In that respect, it's pretty clear that panic took over both pilots when the engine trouble started. The captain reacted poorly and made the poor decision of "if the plane isn't gaining altitude, I just need to pull on the yoke harder" which inevitably put it into a stall and the F/O meanwhile pretty much froze. It's tragic when a situation that is perfectly recoverable turns into a deadly tragedy because the nerves of the pilots just failed them.
@marycrittenden1210
@marycrittenden1210 4 месяца назад
I agree!
@xolinnax
@xolinnax 4 месяца назад
​@@redshirt49It's not just him taking the controls though, he paid no attention to the briefing and only chose to pay attention to the purser while ignoring the first officer
@a3300000
@a3300000 4 месяца назад
Don’t believe everything you hear.
@lirawettalira7538
@lirawettalira7538 3 месяца назад
I 100% see the sexism going on here, not respecting the only woman doing her job, not showing up for preparation letting her on her own, cutting her off while she is speaking, and then not trusting she can get the job done. Quite a good ullustration of daily sexism actually.
@FutureSystem738
@FutureSystem738 10 месяцев назад
Thanks Petter, what a sad, totally avoidable accident. As a 30k hour (retired) Boeing captain, I’m appalled at the behaviour of the captain literally from long before they ever shut the doors.
@ArthurWojtowicz
@ArthurWojtowicz 9 месяцев назад
SInce you are a pilot maybe you can tell me the reason why the female pilot had to ask for captain's permission to retract the landing gear. Why hasn't she just done it? Heck, she had already given him the command earlier and received no response, so at this point wasn't it common sense to just lift up the gear lever herself? This one simple action just might have recovered the plane from a stall and possibly saved it.
@c.s.4273
@c.s.4273 9 месяцев назад
​​​@@ArthurWojtowiczGood question. She needed to immediately initiate the engine failure on takeoff procedure, which all pilots should have memorized: reduce the pitch angle to maintain V2 (takeoff safety speed), raise the landing gear, increase thrust on the remaining engine, and use the rudder to counter the yaw. *Nothing* of all this was done by her, so the captain was forced to take over the control five seconds after the engine failure. But she didn't let go the yoke pulling up as she was not even in control of herself - she freaked out. That is the answer to your question. She was impaired, incapacitated by her fear, by her panic.
@benjaminvadodelbosque2471
@benjaminvadodelbosque2471 9 месяцев назад
@@c.s.4273 Thank you for writing this. Anyone ought to have been able to read the glaring in-between-the-lines, on this story. Something went wrong, she freaked out, and the commanding officer was forced to try to save them. "What's going on?!?!" ("Jesus, take the wheel") The captain is saying "take your hands off the yoke" so that he can try to save their lives, and she is saying, in her craze (and for the microphones' sake), "I did, I already did". Who knows whether she was pulling back on the controls? Mentour Pilot? Or, the man sitting next to her, looking at her hands on his controls, and trying to save 100 souls?
@krashd
@krashd 9 месяцев назад
@@c.s.4273Is that you, Algeria? You cheeky little country!
@klausuhlig7141
@klausuhlig7141 9 месяцев назад
Sounds to me the Captain blatantly ignored the female pilot
@freas8520
@freas8520 10 месяцев назад
Yes! "Sterile cockpit" is the word I use in my line of work as an NDT technician, thanks to this channel. When operating X-ray equipment we need to concentrate in order not to irradiate each other.
@Logicalsane
@Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад
21:45 you are criticizing the male pilot for making mistakes but when female pilot is making mistakes then you are siding with her by giving lame justifications.......... Cut this gender discrimination against men
@colemin2
@colemin2 2 месяца назад
​@@LogicalsaneYou are such a plant, lol.
@FromTheDeck
@FromTheDeck 7 месяцев назад
In Spanish we have an expression. "Me pica el puño" (my fist is itching). We use this when we hear someone being an absolutely terrible person. I'm an usually calm person. But hearing about this Captain and Purser, my fist has been itching
@tillamook7446
@tillamook7446 Месяц назад
Most professional Algerian:
@cosmickitty1528
@cosmickitty1528 Месяц назад
In Russian we have similar expression, but instead of fist we say our hands are itching :)
@BillPalmer
@BillPalmer 10 месяцев назад
Before you consider that the way to survive an accident is to not fasten your seatbelt, consider that the ONLY people killed in the Asiana 214 accident (777 SFO) were the ones that had not fastened their seatbelts and ended up ejected from the airplane - one being run over by a fire truck. Fasten your Seat Belts!
@f.stewart286
@f.stewart286 10 месяцев назад
At least two who fell 1000s of feet from an aircraft disaster were strapped to their seats, Vesna Vulovic & Juliane Koepske.
@clintonwilcox4690
@clintonwilcox4690 10 месяцев назад
Yes, it's really no different from being in a car. Occasionally not fastening their seat belt has saved a life in a car accident, but it's much more common for seat belts to save lives than to be a reason someone dies. So it's better to always have your seat belt fastened.
@f.stewart286
@f.stewart286 10 месяцев назад
@@clintonwilcox4690 Friends of mine, at the beginning of a relationship, were involved in an accident slow speed but sufficient to hurl them through the windscreen with the front seats squashed under the car roof. They attributed not wearing a seat belt (then a new requirement) to saving them. But not something that will always happen as they were not travelling at great speed. Their relationship became long-term & gave rise to two great kids.
@coasteyscoasteys
@coasteyscoasteys 10 месяцев назад
​@@f.stewart286 Why would the seats rip off the floor if it was slow speed? Seems like high speed or a truck hitting them with force
@clintonwilcox4690
@clintonwilcox4690 10 месяцев назад
@@f.stewart286 Your comment completely misses the point of the entire conversation. Wearing a seat belt is safer than not wearing a seat belt. I was involved in a car crash that could have been fatal for all involved had we not been wearing seat belts. Being hurled through glass is a dangerous endeavor no matter what the cause. It was probably a minor miracle that your friends weren't killed. And their relationship may have become long-term even without the accident. Plenty of relationships do.
@NgoziEbenezer
@NgoziEbenezer 10 месяцев назад
Good day, mentour pilot. I just want to say a big thank you for these well researched stories that are told with unparalleled thoroughness and finesse. I am a West African and although the airline industry is but a fledgling business, there are many accidents and incidents which have not been properly explained as you do on this channel, I would love to hear and watch you talk about them so that we also in our subregion and other subregions of Africa can learn from them. Thank you very much.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 10 месяцев назад
Sure! Send me the final reports on petter@mentourpilot.com and I’ll have a look
@NgoziEbenezer
@NgoziEbenezer 10 месяцев назад
Very well sir, I will search for them.
@malcolmwhite6588
@malcolmwhite6588 10 месяцев назад
@@MentourPilot I often enjoy reading people‘s comments, almost as much as your top-quality well researched videos. Obviously, a huge number of us appreciate the massive effort and commitment you put into them, especially ,as a number of people comment , with your busy life is a line pilot ,training, captain and busy husband and father. Thanks heaps.🎉😊❤
@Logicalsane
@Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад
​@@NgoziEbenezer21:45 you are criticizing the male pilot for making mistakes but when female pilot is making mistakes then you are siding with her by giving lame justifications.......... Cut this gender discrimination against men
@TinBryn
@TinBryn 10 месяцев назад
One aspect about the sterile cockpit concept that I really like is that it implied times when it isn't sterile, acknowledging that pilots are human and want to have casual conversations, but also making it clear when they have to put such conversations off until later. Unfortunately this captain and Purser didn't fulfil their part of that bargain.
@yackawaytube
@yackawaytube 8 месяцев назад
Pilots can have casual conversations, but not during take-off and landing, the two most crucial time periods. Take-off lasts 2 minutes. Casual conversations can wait for 2 minutes. This captain simply didn't care about safety.
@nofurtherwest3474
@nofurtherwest3474 8 месяцев назад
I'm guessing cultural dynamics were at play. Arabic culture is... let's just say it... misogynistic. And this created a very bad communication dynamic. Similar to the age dynamic in Korean culture which caused a huge plane crash, which afterwards Delta made their Korean pilots only speak English at work.
@dmitriyzhurba804
@dmitriyzhurba804 10 месяцев назад
Videos like this serve as a reminder that, no matter what your job or profession is, it is important to show up to work with the mindset of being a professional. Know what you’re doing, and do it like your life or your family’s life depend on it. So many of these videos highlight just what happens when people don’t take their job seriously.
@Logicalsane
@Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад
21:45 you are criticizing the male pilot for making mistakes but when female pilot is making mistakes then you are siding with her by giving lame justifications.......... Cut this gender discrimination against men..
@MrTmm97
@MrTmm97 10 месяцев назад
I just wanted to say that you are very inspiring to me. It’s amazing how you are working as a pilot and instructor and still find time to meticulously research, organize, write the script, record, and put together such high quality, entertaining, and educational videos for us to enjoy. It truly is inspiring to me as I’m sure it is for many others and we are grateful for all that you do for us. I’ll steal your favorite compliment and tell you that your Absolutely Fantastic! Keep up the incredible work! Don’t forget to get some rest and have some fun from time to time… I hope your holiday went great! Your certainly deserve it.
@mnxs
@mnxs 10 месяцев назад
In fairness, RU-vid channels of this size (and especially quality!) has a whole team behind them. But yeah, Petter is indeed inspiring. To me, it's moreso his ability to teach us complex subjects. As someone who works in a technical field and often has to instruct others, that stuff is _hard._
@lenneth1188
@lenneth1188 10 месяцев назад
How naive are you? The guy has a whole army of editor, cameraman, writter, etc. working for him, all he gotta do is read a script
@Logicalsane
@Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад
​@@lenneth118821:45 you are criticizing the male pilot for making mistakes but when female pilot is making mistakes then you are siding with her by giving lame justifications.......... Cut this gender discrimination against men
@crapaud79
@crapaud79 9 месяцев назад
This is like watching Air Crash Investigations minus all the needless over-explanation and dramatization... Perfect
@pearldragon6508
@pearldragon6508 7 месяцев назад
The First Officer was the only one of that crew actually trying to DO anything - and had already been doing everything since the plane waiting on the tarmac to the takeoff. And you just *know* that if this flight had come down in one piece and all survived, the captain would have immediately blamed the FO, probably adding in 'female hysterics'. Poor woman. My heart breaks for her and all the passengers who died 😥😥 THe captain and the purser also did not deserve to die, but they REALLY let everyone down with such shoddy and arrogant attitudes to, oh, Idk - THEIR JOBS??!!
@mgntstr
@mgntstr Месяц назад
poor woman, she decided to take off and risk the crew with that captain
@guillermoolivera7086
@guillermoolivera7086 9 месяцев назад
As a 737 intructor, all of that make me think about company safety culture, quality of training, and captain´s training records and professional attitude for fliyng.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 9 месяцев назад
True
@Terrorrai1
@Terrorrai1 8 месяцев назад
and perhaps a pinch of mysagony
@malcolmwhite6588
@malcolmwhite6588 7 месяцев назад
Back in the day as a private pilot, I set in numerous commercial jet jump seats for departure and climb out However, in every case as the crew were starting to prepare the cockpit, the captain always turned around and said : at this point, unless you were to spot something immediately hazardous, which you need to alert us to straightaway, you must now be 100% quiet until we’re in the cruise.
@guillermoolivera7086
@guillermoolivera7086 7 месяцев назад
Yep. "Not speak until spoken " is other of the golden rules for a jumpseat rider🤐@@malcolmwhite6588
@kendrahows6987
@kendrahows6987 7 месяцев назад
Ok I have a question, if there is a captain or any other flight personnel that's dosen't show to thier Briefings, how do airlines handle that? Delay the flight? Repermands? Replacement before the flight? Cancel flight? Because in my opinion, im not a plot but I am a truck driver. We have many thing that we do similar to airlines. We do act as our own frist and captain. We do our per trips. We route plan, figure out fuel need distance. And in our driving we must monitor our vehicles. Somthing happens we must frist get the vehicle under control then safety stop or diagnose the problem. We also have to safety protect the motoring public. Driver who don't do this have accidents and can lose their jobs. If I was this frist officer I probably would have delayed the flight and made an inquiry to my company because of the neglect of the captain. They are a team and must be on the same page.
@CombustibleL3mon
@CombustibleL3mon 10 месяцев назад
The production value of your recent videos has been absolutely super, Peter! You really work hard to both inform and entertain and it shows! Well done as always 👏
@ploot5995
@ploot5995 10 месяцев назад
The music syncing on this one was perfect
@Logicalsane
@Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад
​@@ploot599521:45 you are criticizing the male pilot for making mistakes but when female pilot is making mistakes then you are siding with her by giving lame justifications.......... Cut this gender discrimination against men
@elpaso3303
@elpaso3303 5 месяцев назад
The capitate lady was one of my relatives very experienced unfortunately we lost her with other passengers
@elpaso3303
@elpaso3303 5 месяцев назад
With others passengers and the crew
@bonesawready378
@bonesawready378 5 месяцев назад
experienced but did nothing to prevent the crash
@taramichelle2972
@taramichelle2972 10 месяцев назад
Another great break down of this terrible accident, I read about this during my training and my instructor highlighted the importance of keeping a sterile cockpit and focusing on following the procedure without distraction. As you kept saying as the purser and pilot chatted ignoring the correct procedure, I felt my frustration rising.
@Logicalsane
@Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад
21:45 you are criticizing the male pilot for making mistakes but when female pilot is making mistakes then you are siding with her by giving lame justifications.......... Cut this gender discrimination against men..
@bluepotato1354
@bluepotato1354 10 месяцев назад
I've already seen every video on the channel so I'm very excited for this new one! The analysis is always so good and factual, while still considering the human loss. I really really appreciate the lack of unnecessary dramatics
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 10 месяцев назад
Glad you like them!
@6teezkid
@6teezkid 10 месяцев назад
Same here!! When I first ran into Mentour Pilot, I binged on so many every day.
@ForcefighterX2
@ForcefighterX2 10 месяцев назад
I am getting there. I have watched multipled other aviation channels, but this one is the best! I love his informative and analytic videos! 🙂
@originaljazzgirl
@originaljazzgirl 10 месяцев назад
I agree, this one is the best!@@ForcefighterX2
@Logicalsane
@Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад
​@@originaljazzgirl21:45 you are criticizing the male pilot for making mistakes but when female pilot is making mistakes then you are siding with her by giving lame justifications.......... Cut this gender discrimination against men
@jetporter
@jetporter 10 месяцев назад
In approximately 25,000 hrs of flying, I have had the amazing good fortune of never having experienced a full engine failure, and only a few inflight shutdowns. Of course every six months I have the opportunity to experience this exact scenario in the simulator, as do all pilots. Still, in the back of my mind I always wonder: "how well will I perform when this happens in real life?" I think about it often. The only way to make sure you don't end up like this guy is to always be prepared. It's obvious from the lead-up that this captain had lost his passion for his job and his interest in professionalism, and was just trying to get through another boring day at work. Flying for a living can be tedious. The real effort is in not allowing that to erode your sense of duty, which is what clearly had happened to this pilot.
@bobtaylor170
@bobtaylor170 10 месяцев назад
If I were a billionaire I'd hire you to be the pilot of my jet.
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 10 месяцев назад
I think it's clear the pilot had mentally only prepared for a successful takeoff and had no consideration that there might be a problem, mentally completely unprepared to deal with anything - all the more remarkable for a near MTOW takeoff in the desert....
@meneldal
@meneldal 10 месяцев назад
You know it's going to happen during the simulator so you can mentally prepare (even if they try to trick you and not saying you which simulator session would have it, you know it is a very real possibility). But on a properly maintained aircraft, it is rare enough that you can do your whole career without facing the problem, so preparing for the real deal is always much harder. Everyone wants to be Sully in this situation, but the truth is we never know before it actually happens.
@jetporter
@jetporter 10 месяцев назад
@@meneldal I agree. You can be a rock star when you know it's going to happen. The real mystery is how we'll stay composed when it's the real deal.
@speedbird300
@speedbird300 10 месяцев назад
1. AVIATE = fly the wing. I don’t understand holding the pitch through decaying speed and stick shaker. Even if I’m now a glider the last thing I want to do is stall and depart.
@grahamsalmons2027
@grahamsalmons2027 10 месяцев назад
Being resilient is so important for a First Officer. Calling a halt to the operation and spelling out the parameters for safe conduct is so hard to do, particularly if the CA is overbearing or fixated but has to be done. Specific training should be given to all crew members on when it is appropriate to intercede and how to deal with such a challenge. Basic CRM. Great video as always
@TheWPhilosopher
@TheWPhilosopher 10 месяцев назад
Depends if that would save her. The safest action would be to cancel the flight citing the lack of professionalism of the Captain but with 2 versus one she a) may lose her job or b) be coerced into continuing regardless hence leading to not wishing to speak up. It's not right but I've seen enough work based bullying cultures that it's very easy for far less important sectors to have issues around openness and accountability.
@Powerranger-le4up
@Powerranger-le4up 10 месяцев назад
Once I heard that the sterile cockpit rule was being violated, I knew something bad was going to happen.
@wbfaulk
@wbfaulk 10 месяцев назад
I kinda suspected when the video went up. Very few of these videos follow the plot of "the airplane took off, experienced an uneventful flight, and landed safely at its destination".
@KenFullman
@KenFullman 10 месяцев назад
But then, EVERY flight featured on this channel has something bad happen. He's hardly going to make an entire video about a flight that went without incident.🤣
@SadisticSenpai61
@SadisticSenpai61 10 месяцев назад
I began to suspect unprofessional behavior on the part of the captain once I heard that he didn't show up right away and instead the first officer had to do all the preflight checks by herself. And it just kept getting worse from there.
@BrettonFerguson
@BrettonFerguson 10 месяцев назад
When I saw Mentor Pilot made a video about this flight, I knew something bad was going to happen.
@LegoLad659
@LegoLad659 10 месяцев назад
@@KenFullman That would be a great April Fools' day video, though
@corey57255
@corey57255 5 месяцев назад
I really love how you explain things with very technical detail but in a way that a layman can completely understand.
@tensa7132
@tensa7132 10 месяцев назад
I noticed new graphics, music and the wide screen intro in this one! Love how the channel constantly experiments and improves. In terms of this tragedy, the quick but sadly inconsequential alert of the ATC was admirable. RIP to the perished.
@Logicalsane
@Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад
21:45 you are criticizing the male pilot for making mistakes but when female pilot is making mistakes then you are siding with her by giving lame justifications.......... Cut this gender discrimination against men..
@tensa7132
@tensa7132 9 месяцев назад
Pathetic comment.
@crazynx870
@crazynx870 10 месяцев назад
Wow that was a very interesting video! The man who survived and the 3 people who were not able to get on the flight are extremely lucky.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 10 месяцев назад
Indeed they are.
@mjbl1787
@mjbl1787 10 месяцев назад
The conscript must thank his lucky stars daily. I wonder if he ever thinks, "man I should probably not go on any more planes after I cheated death. But I guess statistically he unlikely to ever be in another crash.@@MentourPilot
@dmatech
@dmatech 10 месяцев назад
True, but I don't think the lesson to be learned is that you shouldn't buckle your seatbelt. You're far more likely to be saved by it.
@CieloNotturno86
@CieloNotturno86 10 месяцев назад
​@@dmatechyes, he was indeed lucky to be alive, but I feel that "maybe I'll get violently thrown out of a crashing plane" isn't a good survival plan. He could have easily died from the injuries.
@keinlieb3818
@keinlieb3818 10 месяцев назад
Sad thing is you know this wasn't the first time the CPT had done something like this being this casual about letting the purser into the cockpit during takeoff. He's probably let others in there as well during landing as well and it probably went unreported for various different reasons. If you're part of the flight crew and you see things like this, I hope you report it before it turns into another avoidable accident.
@TadWonky
@TadWonky 10 месяцев назад
Very perceptive, keinlieb. No doubt you are correct. Such dangerous people are to be found elsewhere in life than the cockpit, too.
@Logicalsane
@Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад
21:45 you are criticizing the male pilot for making mistakes but when female pilot is making mistakes then you are siding with her by giving lame justifications.......... Cut this gender discrimination against men..
@keinlieb3818
@keinlieb3818 9 месяцев назад
@@Logicalsane lol troll on
@pegggymallis324
@pegggymallis324 7 месяцев назад
I love listening to your detailed explanations of different air situations. I gave anesthesia for 40 yrs, and felt like both had similarities. No room for mistakes, poor judgement and functional equipment a must for both. Keep up your videos!
@LisiasToledo
@LisiasToledo 10 месяцев назад
From my (layman) point of view, the accident **was not** caused by engine failure followed by failing on raising the gears. The accident was caused by pilot error. The engine failure was the initial trigger of the chain of events that lead to the loss of the flight, but from this point, everything else happened due failure of the pilots on handling the situation. I can only imagine what was going through F/O's head during this entire event.
@lancevancedance4900
@lancevancedance4900 10 месяцев назад
I think they stated pilot error as one of the causes in the official report, if I remember correctly. It's been a while since I read it.
@uclajd
@uclajd 10 месяцев назад
Well unfortunately we'll never know because she sat there timid and quiet instead of asserting herself and saving the plane!
@pfefferle74
@pfefferle74 10 месяцев назад
There is never a single cause to an accident. It's always the Swiss Cheese model with multiple problems coming together in a catastrophic alignment. A pilot having a shock induced brain-freeze is just another part of the complex system. What only boils my blood is a pilot consciously and recklessly overriding an automated safety system that an engineer put there in case of a pilot error, but a narcisistic pilot refuses to acknowledge that he could be the one making an error and not the safety system.
@LisiasToledo
@LisiasToledo 10 месяцев назад
@pfefferle74 except when the automated system itself misbehaves, as happened on 737 MAX. Narcissism is a problem on engineering too. It's the reason we need to have pilots trained on recognizing the need and overriding them. Problems start to happen when pilots are not trained adequately for such situations.
@LisiasToledo
@LisiasToledo 10 месяцев назад
@lancevancedance4900 IMHO it's **THE** cause of the accident. From all the info the video gave us, we can assume with a more than reasonable degree of certainty that the situation was perfectly salvageable under the hands of an adequately trained crew.
@matthewsellers82
@matthewsellers82 10 месяцев назад
One of the hardest things for pilots to learn is to realise that being in control does not necessarily mean being on the controls. This is why most airlines insist pilots take it in turn to fly and to monitor, it is also where training and simulators are so useful.
@Logicalsane
@Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад
21:45 you are criticizing the male pilot for making mistakes but when female pilot is making mistakes then you are siding with her by giving lame justifications.......... Cut this gender discrimination against men
@anjillo
@anjillo 5 месяцев назад
I’m Algerian and used to be cabin crew for airline for 5 years …. I have to say in Algeria we have no rules what so ever … I have friends who have no pilot license and never passed the tests … they are now captains. Even ground staff fake the weight of cargo and baggage. Just for money . It’s disaster .
@kevinwise786
@kevinwise786 10 месяцев назад
My goodness... The quality of your video has tremendously improves. The graphics, the music, toppled on with your story telling is amazing. Thank you so much Peter.. ❤
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 10 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Colehh
@Colehh 10 месяцев назад
Production value on this video is absolutely incredible. The music choice this time around was impeccable, really really well done
@ianhoyle8459
@ianhoyle8459 6 месяцев назад
The Captain having no respect for his female co-pilot is unforgivable and possibly sometimes a cultural problem in some countries? But in any case some people just don’t get along with each other. However one would hope that in this type of situation they could professionally but this to one side considering their responsibilities to each other let alone their passengers lives and employers reputation. Such a disappointing and upsetting situation. Valuable video
@GlasPthalocyanine
@GlasPthalocyanine 4 месяца назад
I think there was a fatal crash on maybe (?) one of the east Asian airlines. Some pilots were given rank based on their war service and many of these were from high ranking families. So they simply weren't the type of people to respect and listen to the crew. It's not quite the same as men who can't respect women, but the consequences were similar.
@mattskovran5797
@mattskovran5797 10 месяцев назад
@MentourPilot. From the start of this, the swiss cheese model keeps building and building, the amount of holes, gaps, and missteps made that lead to the accident is mind-boggling.
@Boyso5407
@Boyso5407 10 месяцев назад
So the captain decided to take control of the airplane only to run it right into ground. Such an avoidable accident. I feel bad for the first officer. She was the only person prepared for that situation and the controls were literally taken away from her.
@LootBoxyt
@LootBoxyt 10 месяцев назад
Captain has the final say but it’s always not the right say I agree
@Aint_no_senators_son
@Aint_no_senators_son 9 месяцев назад
​@@LootBoxyt What about his victims he murdered? Where is their say?
@gumby2241
@gumby2241 9 месяцев назад
@@Aint_no_senators_son murdered? that's absurd.
@ligmasack9038
@ligmasack9038 9 месяцев назад
@@Aint_no_senators_son He only "Neglegently Homidided" them; not Murdered. Try learning the difference!
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 9 месяцев назад
There is no guarantee she would have done any better. She still didn't know what the issue was, and still hadn't noticed the gear bring up.
@PauperJ
@PauperJ 10 месяцев назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1510">25:10</a> I was one of your first 100 subscribers on your 2nd channel! How you describe tragic events like these, in a simple to understand manner, is thoughtful. Thank you kind sir. Dios te bendiga.
@korn111685
@korn111685 8 месяцев назад
I’m confident this is no surprise but you’re an excellent story teller. This is something we need more of in the world of constant mindless entertainment and “look at me” influencers. Thank you…!
@tinman3586
@tinman3586 9 месяцев назад
As a gas station attendant with more than 20,000 hours of experience in that role, plus another 10,000 hours as a Subway sandwhich artist, combined with my Ace Combat experience, I can relate to people and situations like this. I can tell you these problems are more common than you might think.
@abukhalidali1823
@abukhalidali1823 9 месяцев назад
😂😂
@nathanjasper512
@nathanjasper512 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for your service.
@opinionatedthug
@opinionatedthug 8 месяцев назад
im dead@@nathanjasper512
@gamercat4659
@gamercat4659 8 месяцев назад
Haha you're the class clown 🤡
@HappyLilJimmy
@HappyLilJimmy 7 месяцев назад
🥲🫡🫡🇺🇸 MURICA
@robinb.905
@robinb.905 10 месяцев назад
I'm sure the FO would have been able to recover the aircraft just fine if she was alone in the cockpit. The captain doomed them the second he stopped listening to the briefing...
@MarinCipollina
@MarinCipollina 10 месяцев назад
The FO had an opportunity to intervene and for reasons known only to her, she decided to not do that.
@nilloc93
@nilloc93 10 месяцев назад
@@MarinCipollina Reasons known only to her? She was a woman in a muslim country, working for a muslim airline. Everyone knows the exact reasons she didn't intervene.
@LebowskyDude
@LebowskyDude 10 месяцев назад
@@nilloc93here we go with islamophobia
@nilloc93
@nilloc93 10 месяцев назад
@@LebowskyDude Is that wrong? Islam promotes a primitive world view that views women as chattel.
@MarinCipollina
@MarinCipollina 10 месяцев назад
@peacenow42 ​ @nilloc93 As opposed to doing NOTHING AT ALL? I think it would have been worth the effort.. What, you don't ?
@ARiverSystem
@ARiverSystem 10 месяцев назад
It makes me so angry whenever someone just shows a total disregard for safety procedures like this captain here, and people have to pay for that with their lives. Sometimes accidents happen that are just really difficult to handle, and then there's accidents like this one that were completely avoidable and unnecessary. It's so sad.
@jacekmarcinkowski9995
@jacekmarcinkowski9995 6 месяцев назад
Generally I don't like posts about true catastrophies, but I 'm surprised by the highest quality presentation of events and balanced, factual commentary. Wonderful job!
@tea4223
@tea4223 10 месяцев назад
I have watched other peoples videos with similar substance, but yours supersedes in quality and detail by far and is second to none. Thanks for the upload.
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 10 месяцев назад
Man, this one is frustrating. Complacency can be so dangerous to an airline pilot. Unfortunately, no one was ready to stand up & say something, which may have helped get the pilot out of his own way😞
@abcdefga2205
@abcdefga2205 9 месяцев назад
Stumbled upon this channel few months ago and I've been thoroughly impressed! As someone who previously had no particular interest in aviation, I find myself completely captivated by the detailed and insightful explanations of aviation disasters. The depth of analysis, clarity in presentation, and the effort to educate on prevention strategies is exceptional. The production quality of these videos is top-notch, making complex topics accessible and engaging. Your work in bridging the gap between aviation experts and casual viewers is commendable. Thanks for igniting a new interest in me and for the outstanding content
@MalissiaCreates
@MalissiaCreates 7 месяцев назад
Agreed!
@dianeshannon7988
@dianeshannon7988 7 месяцев назад
Me too
@diegorhoenisch62
@diegorhoenisch62 7 месяцев назад
Without further information, it's impossible for me not to assume that sexism may have played a huge role in the captain's murderous behavior.
@hybr1dmeteor
@hybr1dmeteor 4 месяца назад
It’s a majority Muslim country what do you expect.
@MightyMako
@MightyMako 4 месяца назад
Of course you’d assume that. 😂 It’s only rational to scream that about everything.
@ryszakowy
@ryszakowy 4 месяца назад
oh yeah it must have been sexism definetly no other option like ignorance incompetence or simply half-assing your entire career
@simply_nebulous
@simply_nebulous 3 месяца назад
And ageism.
@mianomo1216
@mianomo1216 3 месяца назад
I’d just like to say I’m a woman who has worked in a male-dominated technical industry for decades and my greatest supporters have always been the men who are closest and most knowledgable of my work. I wouldn’t necessarily assume sexism.
@joecrammond6221
@joecrammond6221 10 месяцев назад
watching this video with quite a few sighs of disbelief listening to the captain's actions or lack of actions prior to take off, at least the first officer was doing her best to maintain standard operating procedures
@SuND4a1
@SuND4a1 10 месяцев назад
Well, she should have called out her co-worker. But this is difficult, especially if the work culture discourage this kind of high standard expectations.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, this was a hugely frustrating video to research and do.
@Logicalsane
@Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад
21:45 you are criticizing the male pilot for making mistakes but when female pilot is making mistakes then you are siding with her by giving lame justifications.......... Cut this gender discrimination against men
@paulis7319
@paulis7319 10 месяцев назад
Complacency is such an easy trap to fall into. I hope the lone survivor got the counseling needed for experiencing such a traumatic event.
@R2Bl3nd
@R2Bl3nd 10 месяцев назад
The purser in the cockpit is reminiscent of Northwest 255. In the newly released 10 minute long cockpit voice recording, you can hear the captain having a discussion with the purser at a completely inopportune moment.
@MarinCipollina
@MarinCipollina 10 месяцев назад
What was their status?
@VeilingSun
@VeilingSun 10 месяцев назад
@@MarinCipollina Of the 155 people on board. There was only 1 survivor, a passenger. There were other circumstances that brought the plane down though.
@Logicalsane
@Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад
​@@VeilingSun21:45 you are criticizing the male pilot for making mistakes but when female pilot is making mistakes then you are siding with her by giving lame justifications.......... Cut this gender discrimination against men
@VeilingSun
@VeilingSun 9 месяцев назад
@@Logicalsane Are you responding to the right person? I read your comment, then I read my comment, and I just don't see the connection at all. In fact, I think you picked the one comment thread that doesn't talk about gender lol.
@littlebanshee
@littlebanshee 6 месяцев назад
I know one survived but these stories make me very sad. So many lives gone so fast, my heart goes out to their loved ones.
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 10 месяцев назад
I feel so sorry for first officers in crashes like this, it must be incredibly difficult to speak up. I do suspect that her being female may have culturally influenced her not to speak up and also may have related to the Captain's unprofessionalism. Lack of an emergency briefing is unbelievable. The unprofessionalism of the captain and purser is incredible. Edit - All the more so given that this was a near MTOW takeoff in a hot/high environmnent.... clearly the capain had no expectation of anything other than a routine takeoff. It really suggests that both Air Algerie and Algeria's regulator need looking at, Korean Airlines had similar problems but were able to fix them. I find it hard to believe that with a captain and the purser both involved in such poor practices that they were the only "bad apples" in airline. I remember that in Pakistan there were some pilots flying in their airlines who were not qualified pilots and I have to consider that it's possilbe here. Terrible airmanship - the aircraft crashed entirely due to the pilot in command's incompetence.
@uclajd
@uclajd 10 месяцев назад
Nonsense white knight. Defending the woman FO for being submissive because of big meany captain. TIME TO STAND UP AND ASSERT YOURSELF OR YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS IN THE COCKPIT! Instead she just sat their timidly and let them crash? bEcAuSe SeXiSm. Freaking simps! She was a fail too.
@Hans_R._Wahl
@Hans_R._Wahl 10 месяцев назад
Yes, exactly.
@Logicalsane
@Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад
21:45 you are criticizing the male pilot for making mistakes but when female pilot is making mistakes then you are siding with her by giving lame justifications.......... Cut this gender discrimination against men
@rolandxb3581
@rolandxb3581 6 месяцев назад
​​@@Logicalsane that's a disgrace. The respective mistakes of the two pilots are not even in the same universe in terms of magnitude and culpability. To turn a story about the fatal consequences of a deeply rooted culture of sexism and misogyny (because make no mistake, cultures in general was a lot like that and Algerian culture is still deeply patriarchal) into your pet peeve about discrimination against men is unbelievable. It seems that your basic perception is twisted by ideology so you see things that aren't there (discrimination against men) and not see things that are actually there (unforgivable incompetence, breathtaking arrogance, and deadly sexism). This pilot being the kind of man that is so utterly unprepared and incompetent yet so supremely confident that he will always do better than those women. Please reconsider your obsession with ideology and recognize sexism, despite it's abuse by some people, is still a valid and essential concept to understand injustices like this one.
@kpadalldotablet1009
@kpadalldotablet1009 2 месяца назад
I'd have just given the captain a choice, either pay attention to preflight checklist, or I would not fly. Period. My dad was a WWII and Korean war Marine Corps pilot, initially trained to fly fighters in the Pacific Theater, but later to the B25 Bomber. He was recalled to the Korean war where the Marine Corps taught him to fly helicopters. I remember, back in 1972 when I was about 11 years old, asking him why it was taking him so long to take off. He said he needed to finish the preflight checklist. He said he you are suppose to do it every time before a flight without exceptions. I asked him what if he didn't do it? He said, "You can die." I always remembered that.
@pastorjerrykliner3162
@pastorjerrykliner3162 10 месяцев назад
You are way too kind to the "Captain" who showed incompetence in airmanship as well as a failure in character that rendered him unable to work with his female First Officer. Not only did he decide to wrestle control away from the First Officer, he also wouldn't have listened to her (he refused to listen to her attempts to brief him) if she had called out airspeeds or any other advice. His sheer incompetence from start to finish is breathtaking.
@bernadetteP9999
@bernadetteP9999 10 месяцев назад
When you don't name the Captain we know it means they are at fault. The FO tried and it was such a shame for her. Great content as always. Rest in peace for all those on board
@MarinCipollina
@MarinCipollina 10 месяцев назад
@@Capecodham FO = First Officer
@parp
@parp 10 месяцев назад
Love the wide aspect ratio opening I can see how your style is really developing and maturing as you continue to do this Always looking forward to the next one
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 10 месяцев назад
Awesome! Thank you!
@huwzebediahthomas9193
@huwzebediahthomas9193 10 месяцев назад
​@@MentourPilot I remember the cinema screen mechanically being made wider for super wide-screen 2001: A Space Odyssey by Stanley Kubrick. Circa 1970. 😎👍
@GGsDLo
@GGsDLo 9 месяцев назад
I'm into my 4th video now, don't know how I got here, but you def earned a sub from me bcuz your channel doesn't "sensationalize" the crashes of the planes, however, you give real good insight into WHY and WHAT happened, and ofc it helps having your flight experience so that it proves you know what you're talking about, and thus makes the reviews of these air disasters way more interesting vs just the sensationalizing and shock value-only-seeking other channels. Well done! Great channel.
@alans3023
@alans3023 10 месяцев назад
A really scary story. If something happens on your flight you need to know that both pilots are working together to resolve the problem. Good presentation.
@Fairysnuff91
@Fairysnuff91 10 месяцев назад
What should an FO do in that position? Should she have refused to fly? Reported it to someone? It is beyond frustrating to hear how disrespectful the captain was but surely there must be procedures in place for this kind of thing. Having one of the pilot not following safety procedures means the plane is not safe to fly. I’m guessing company culture must have had something to do with it too.
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, that's the exact problem, right!? She COULD have taken action ... and then promptly been labeled "difficult" in her company, thereby possibly ruining her career.
@bambangl
@bambangl 10 месяцев назад
I guess it is nothing out of ordinary, she might face such patronising arrogance day by day. The only thing she could do is quit that airline.
@gcorriveau6864
@gcorriveau6864 10 месяцев назад
This certainly raises red flags about the airline culture that would allow an individual pilot like this captain to still be on the job. That's where union-and company sponsored safety-reporting-rehabilbitation programs can be very effective.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 10 месяцев назад
Quite likley the culture including 'She's only a women, her opioin is not important'
@aj.j5833
@aj.j5833 10 месяцев назад
In my experience I found unions degrades company culture because leadership becomes buddy buddy with company management and executives.
@wiredforstereo
@wiredforstereo 10 месяцев назад
​@@aj.j5833Is your experience relevant?
@originaljazzgirl
@originaljazzgirl 10 месяцев назад
I was thinking the exact same thing about the sexism.@@51WCDodge
@cfor8129
@cfor8129 10 месяцев назад
​@@aj.j5833that's a union gone wrong. Unions are democratic, if you dislike your union leadership you can remove them.
@verticle2612
@verticle2612 6 месяцев назад
32 years in the Army, the last 22 as a helicopter pilot and this is more common than you might think. It’s caused by pilots that get complacent and stop studying, stop practicing for what ifs, stop or start skipping steps during preflights and just an overall attitude that nothing is going to happen, but when it does, and it will, they perform like this captain. Everyone wants to be a pilot, but many do not want to do the hard work of being a subject matter expert.
@littletrebleclef
@littletrebleclef 10 месяцев назад
Great video, as always. RIP to the passengers and crew who perished. That one guy was so lucky to survive!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 10 месяцев назад
Thank you, and absolutely
@Packbat
@Packbat 10 месяцев назад
The production quality on your recent episodes has been through the roof - compliments to your whole crew! And ooogh - I think I started wincing the second the captain turned up and didn't stop until after the crash. Quite literally a disastrous failure to follow procedures. If I were in the Air Algérie management, I would be deeply disturbed that it ever occurred on my watch.
@webpilot71
@webpilot71 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video. I had to restrain myself from screaming at my screen! It's always upsetting to see a disaster like this, but even more so when it should have been entirely preventable.
@Logicalsane
@Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад
21:45 you are criticizing the male pilot for making mistakes but when female pilot is making mistakes then you are siding with her by giving lame justifications.......... Cut this gender discrimination against men..
@webpilot71
@webpilot71 9 месяцев назад
@@Logicalsane please change your username to something more fitting of your thought process
@c.s.4273
@c.s.4273 8 месяцев назад
@@webpilot71 He is absolutely right. She botched it as pilot flying and after being pilot monitoring, she kept on doing not her job as instead of reading speed and height she talked to the ATC. By the way, there was a briefing, listen: 6:15
@madreep
@madreep 25 дней назад
You're such a great storyteller, Petter. And I love this more casual format, if being a pilot required a degree in a related field of study the way you tell these stories makes me think about being in a classroom. With the professor in the front of the class talking about something he's very knowledgeable and passionate about and while the story is heartbreaking your delivery makes it enjoyable to listen to.
@Granny_Cat_Lady
@Granny_Cat_Lady 10 месяцев назад
I watch pretty much every video from the preview email, but then I almost always watch them again when they go on full release 👌 I left Mentour running yesterday when I was looking after my granddaughter - I think Amelia found Petter’s voice as soothing as I do & was fixated with the videos - she’s 6 months old & Grandma is introducing her to Aviation ❤ ✈️
@originaljazzgirl
@originaljazzgirl 10 месяцев назад
Granny Cat Lady, I'm a Granny Cat Lady av-geek and MentourPilot watcher too! :-)
@Granny_Cat_Lady
@Granny_Cat_Lady 10 месяцев назад
@@originaljazzgirlYay I’m not alone in this world ❤️❤️❤️
@henkjanvanraikonnen5073
@henkjanvanraikonnen5073 10 месяцев назад
On May 12, 2010, Afriqiyah Airways Flight 771, originating from Johannesburg, crashed just before landing in Tripoli. 103 people were killed. 1 person survived the crash, 9 year old Ruben from the Netherlands. Ruben's parents, brother and sister also died in the crash 😢
@84homey
@84homey 6 месяцев назад
As a professional instructor myself - though in the Technology industry, not anything to do with flying aircraft - I have found that PERSONALITY (ethics, attitude, team work, personal responsibility, communication, etc) is equally important to EXPERTIZE (process knowledge (best practice), product/technical knowledge (how things work), domain knowledge (for example airport and weather conditions in this case), specific skills, and specific experience), especially in leadership roles (as this Captain clearly was) because leaders tend to be in positions of authority and so their errors are likely to have far more profound results. Obviously what's needed is a combination of both characteristics, but in my experience the PERSONALITY side can sometimes be overlooked or at least under played.
@hernehunter1870
@hernehunter1870 10 месяцев назад
As a woman watching this, I wondered whether the pilot was affronted by having to work with a woman and set out to humiliate her. The most telling thing to me was having his buddy in the cockpit so that he would not be alone with her. Just my opinion.
@erikthomsen4007
@erikthomsen4007 10 месяцев назад
I was having a somewhat similar thought. I wonder if having his buddy in the cockpit was part of the reason that he to such great length ignored the FO. Some sort of stupid macho-move. I have seen such crap myself, although not in planes, and not in safety-critical situations.
@Kink_Lord
@Kink_Lord 10 месяцев назад
As a male, I've been ignored and not taken seriously by both male and female bosses/supervisors for years. Everyone experiences this. Ironically, if you think he's acting this was because she's female and he's male, it sounds like you're the one with sexist attitudes (i.e. you assume he's ignoring her because she's a girl and he's a big bad male...)
@blotski
@blotski 10 месяцев назад
I'm afraid it's the elephant in the room. This is the kind of arrogant attitude women in Arab and Muslim societies have to endure. Of course this man was dismissive of her because she was female. Also there is a hierarchy of 'respect' which often leads to these men being almost as dismissive of other men they deem to be lower down the ranks than themselves. People are afraid to mention this in case someone thinks they're being racist. In fact, they're just being patronising by holding them to lower standards.
@joker927
@joker927 10 месяцев назад
It's common for those with privilege to expect marginalized people to perform above expectations. This is a fact of in most societies and could have easily happened in the case of this video. BTW I'm male and I am educated enough to know that identifying potential sexist behavior is not a "sexist attitude".
@randychase305
@randychase305 10 месяцев назад
@@joker927 Thanks, Simp Simperson. Now go get your warm soy milk and go to bed.
@ahmadal-hassani6826
@ahmadal-hassani6826 9 месяцев назад
What happened to the Purser's phone call to his 17 year old son? I'm sure I heard you mention that you will come back to this point? Anyways many thanks for taking the time and effort to create this video. I wonder if the fact the the FO was a female pilot played a role in the Captain disregarding her briefings and not treating her with the respect she deserved.
@rosssmith8481
@rosssmith8481 9 месяцев назад
All you have to do is look at what country this happened in.
@v8infinity8
@v8infinity8 8 месяцев назад
Yup- how dare a subjugated woman think she can do anything else than look after her Husband and In Laws? The Religion of Pieces.
@austinthornton3407
@austinthornton3407 8 месяцев назад
If you watch a lot of Mentour Pilots videos, you notice that hierarchical thinking obstructing teamwork amongst tne flight crew is a feature in a number of incidents, including the worst of all, the Tenerife disaster. But this seems to be a factor especially where the first officer is inexperienced and therefore defers to the captain. I believe MP has described this in several cases where the first officer is a man. Arrogance and complacency in authority and deference to it appear to be significant human risk factors. One issue is that risking an argument in an emergency situation will often be perceived as counter-productive.
@oahuhawaii2141
@oahuhawaii2141 8 месяцев назад
One factor in the captain's disregard of the first officer's attempts at briefing is that they've flown the route before, and he became complacent, not thinking that a refresher on the current conditions may help them recover control of the plane in the event of an emergency.
@Spitamen
@Spitamen 7 месяцев назад
@@rosssmith8481 what is wrong with this country?
@ironmann16
@ironmann16 8 месяцев назад
I just want to take a moment here to say thank you for making these videos, while maintaining no bias, both as a 3rd party in general, and as a instructor captain with the experience you have. It affords us all an insight into these events that can't be had elsewhere,, and hopefully, for those of us that are pilots ourselves that watch you, will give us valuable lessons for the way we approach our own flying in the future. I don't fly airliners, but I still like to think I've become a more responsible pilot as a result of having learned from this series.
@Epinardscaramel
@Epinardscaramel 10 месяцев назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="590">9:50</a> I didn’t even think of that, the captain is also preventing the purser who has stuff to do at this point!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 10 месяцев назад
Correct
@dipayan1152
@dipayan1152 10 месяцев назад
Great explanations as always. Your videos have taught me something which I apply at my daily work. That is importance of proper planning and briefing of procedures and in case of any adversities follow standard procedures. I am an eye surgeon and I do apply these concepts in my field. It may be very weird comparison but I have benefited immensely.
@b.a.erlebacher1139
@b.a.erlebacher1139 10 месяцев назад
I had major surgery recently, and before the anaesthetic took effect I heard the team in the OR briefing and each member speaking up to confirm their role. This made me feel more confident that I was in good hands in a well managed facility. This was a specialty unit at a teaching hospital. I wonder how common these practices are in general.
@jeebusk
@jeebusk 10 месяцев назад
Nice
@LayllasLocker
@LayllasLocker 9 месяцев назад
This reminded me of Asian airlines, where FO couldn't speak up to a captain because of their culture. So they had to do massive cultural re-training. After that they had fewer flying accidents.
@master771000
@master771000 22 дня назад
When you explained about how the seat belt would be important, I thought "Oh god, what especially cruel trick did fate have for them?" Never would I have thought it was the reverse. Excellent storytelling.
@dontgetsalt2045
@dontgetsalt2045 10 месяцев назад
You should be proud of how far your channel has come. Keep up the great work Peter.
@SMGJohn_Secondary
@SMGJohn_Secondary 9 месяцев назад
NPC
@originaljazzgirl
@originaljazzgirl 10 месяцев назад
WOW! Fantastic presentation as always. The lessons of this video are not just limited to aviation. Many jobs and undertakings involve this kind of rigorous following of a systematic structure of steps to avoid accidents, mistakes and problems.
@anthonyobrien3841
@anthonyobrien3841 10 месяцев назад
I certainly witnessed the training captain in you today Petter !!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 10 месяцев назад
Yep, he is still in there.
@jonragnarattugaard8201
@jonragnarattugaard8201 8 месяцев назад
As a private pilot, glider pilot and a RC pilot I'm very suprised and concerned how often speed is an issue in aircraft accidents. Of course there is not so much feedback as in a glider but even though you should expect that professional pilots know that speed makes the plane fly. Fly navigate communicate is for a good reason the golden rule.
@stephenhunt732
@stephenhunt732 10 месяцев назад
As an airline Captain I fully understand and agree with how this accident has been described here . I have flown this particular type of aircraft . Welldone to you Mentour pilot with your informative and concise presentation style and graphics. . RIP to all who perished in this terrible accident , especially the FO who had so much against her. Amen
@diverboy70
@diverboy70 10 месяцев назад
CRM with a female officer i Algeria is like lighting a cigartette under water. Near impossible.
@californiahiker9616
@californiahiker9616 10 месяцев назад
That’s probably why the captain invited the purser into the cockpit.
@zachanikwano
@zachanikwano 10 месяцев назад
I'm sorry are you taking a dig at the woman because of her just being a woman, or the pilot for being sexist towards her?
@californiahiker9616
@californiahiker9616 10 месяцев назад
@@zachanikwano it was a dig at the captain, my sarcasm didn’t show. Obviously he was beneath talking to a mere woman, that’s why he invited the purser.
@jackhoward7138
@jackhoward7138 10 месяцев назад
Production quality keeps getting higher and higher on these, so good
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 10 месяцев назад
I’m working with a fantastic team! Thanks for noticing 💕
@benjaminbrewer2569
@benjaminbrewer2569 6 месяцев назад
I see the attitude of the captain as a literal handicap.
@mapleext
@mapleext 10 месяцев назад
It’s so strange that as a non-pilot who’s only aviation knowledge comes from a few years of Petter, I’m thinking “sterile cockpit!”, “CRM!”, “checklists!”, while watching this video- and the actual pilot did not think of those things? As commented, that poor first officer was doomed, and was the only one acting professionally. Very tragic. 😢
@grainneocarroll6427
@grainneocarroll6427 10 месяцев назад
As someone who has logged hundreds (if not thousands) of hours in the air, and worked back office in an airline before taking a different career path, I always find your videos extremely interesting and informative. I’m also a fan of SOPs from the airline and pharmaceutical sectors, and subscribe to the “plan, do, review” mentality. So hearing stories of those whose actions by not doing that, and their consequences, are chilling. But a reminder to always listen to the briefing and be ready for anything.
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