I completely agree with Ed cfm vs lift. I know there are tons of cfm vs lift debate in the industry but Ed got this one right. I have done real-time testing at work and I have experienced that with high cfm the carpets were drier and with high lift low cfm the carpets took longer to dry. This is a fact not a theory. Just try it by yourself.
This guy explains water lift and cfm perfectly. When it comes to carpet, upholstery and tile cleaning you want max cfm. More air moving through your vacuum lines harder the suction. I have been studying the difference. I run four 8.4 dual stage motors with my built etm. I run 566 cfm.
@@littlebabyb4506 yes four 8.4 Ametek motors. Sucker pulls. My set up will run circles around prochem 405, diablos to a certain point. I can’t compete with steam action nike 1200. You can run 3 wands on a nike
@@runzization not 44 amps per outlet. I used to be involved in electrical. I’ve learned how to run two motors at 20 amps total. I supply my power with a generator that produces 60 amps.
@@wecleanitall8333 thx for reply sounds like you have a high performance system, I did mean total amps for Vacs. My Vortex BZ-108 with pump@400, pumpout on, both Vacs and wand sealed on floor has never tripped two separate 15amp circuits. I used an older century with #33 blower and vortex with 100' of 2" hose was slightly drier so maybe LX at 100' is between #33$ blower but those same blowers may surpass LX Mytee at 100+ hose runs. Is your Generator 8500kw? How much fuel use per hour?
Hey could anyone help me im trying to figure something out I need help. I’ve made a setup using a small 5-gallon Yeti bucket with two motors, replacing a larger 45-gallon barrel. This setup boosts the vacuum for my Mytee S300h, which is perfect for my upholstery cleaning due to its small size and portability. Although the vacuum is powerful and the bucket holds well, when I connect the Yeti bucket’s hose to the Mytee S300h’s waste tank hole, combining three motors for more suction, I notice that the suction isn’t as strong as expected when I use the 8-foot vacuum hose with the upholstery tool. Without the hose the succion is so much more powerful I also made sure everything was perfectly sealed with hose so could it be because the air is restricted from the 8400P mytee tool ? Or the size of my vacuum hose ? Please help
You didn't let air come through the hose to lift the ball off the ground on the MX2... huge difference how you did the 2nd one at an angle... if you had done that with the MX2, it would had gotten sucked in as well.
Pay attention that cfm is maximum cfm at minimum water lift, and that water lift is maximum water lift at minimum cfm, both values on its own do not tell that much, you need to know at what cfm (could be 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, etc) you have what water lift, or the reverse, at what water lift you have what cfm, then you can use the figures to something, but you need to know your looses in hoses, pipework, nozzles/head (losses is measured as pressure drop at a given flow rate) to be able to calculate what pump/motor fits for your need. Pumps/motors have different characteristics (cfm and water lift curves) even if the pump/motor has the same wattage and physical size. Simple speaking if you have sufficient suction with a short hose and you loos to much suction with a long hose then you need more water lift, that may be a different pump/motor different characteristic or two motors in series. You can archive the same by having two motors in parallel but it may end up costing more in energy because you overshoot you cfm need to compensate for your pressure loose. So when does parallel give sense, when you want to suck more through your system you will need a hose with a lager diameter and then you need more cfm to keep the air flow (air speed) sufficient to pick-up and transport stuff through your system. Be aware that if you suck up water from a carpet that is very different from sucking up water from a barrel, the first requires cfm, the latter water lift, so if you get a blockage in your hose you need water lift to free it, so to choose a motor is important, especially if you need to keep the energy to run the motor low, to get the right motor, but it is not a easy just by looking at the number for cfm and water lift.
I don’t understand. You gathered well over a thousand dollars in motors and testing equipment and after an 11 minute video... you don’t use them. You only dragged balls and took measurements with one motor (not shown). Why don’t you measure the CFM and lift at the end of the hose of the motors in series and the motors in parallel? Was that not the whole point of this video? I would really love to see this demonstrated.
That heavy ball was lifted with two motors, and not only one as you assumed. The whole point of the video was to show what CFM/Airfow can and will offer the Operator in terms of performance/extraction. Sorry you were confused.
@@edvalentine5127 but what if I want to reduce dry times on carpets, do I go for cfm or water lift? My hose is only 8 feet long. Cfm matters for long hoses right?
Ball test thoughts straight away, the ball test, complete con as you didn't do the same test. One test had the hose stuck down tight into the carpet, therefore, no air flow, the other had the hose cranked 'I be darned' I challenge you, if your going to do a test, apply the exact same cirmstances to both tests. 2, as regarding foam, foam is in the hose which is split between the 2 motors and your saying tgat some how, the foam diverts to one motor and not the other? How? Motors in parallel may have advantages but this is complete bullocks. Do another test which will prove parallel is better. Ie, soak a carpet and measure the amount of water extracted within a given time frame. At the end, all we want is cleaner dryer carpets when. The job is finished and if the motors life can be extended, that's a bonus.
Sorry I had to dislike this video because I have a machine in series that would’ve sucked that ball up for sure so this is pretty misleading and the fact you didn’t show the gauges on the one with supposedly more water lift shows that you’re hiding something.
