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Air Roasts: Closeup on Roast Levels 

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Distinguishing coffee roasting levels from air roasters, like popcorn poppers or the Freshroast. This focuses on factors other than color to note the degree of roast.
Correction: At 7:02 we meant for the left and right beans to be on opposite sides of the screen. The lighter bean is the one that is pre-1st crack.
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@ibodhidogma
@ibodhidogma 4 года назад
This video was exactly what I needed. Thank you! More like this, please...
@BaysviewPg
@BaysviewPg 3 года назад
At video 7:02' I noticed that the LEFT and RIGHT side is just the opposite of what we viewed. When you said, full city roast, some beans with oil spots at random beans, does this oil is generated after 24 hours or 48 hours, or it can be seen right after the roasting?
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 3 года назад
Thanks for noticing that. We'll make a correction in the description. Oil will be visible immediately but will be much more apparent after a day or so.
@danirinaldi1044
@danirinaldi1044 3 года назад
Nice info thx u, i currently roasting on modified popcorn roaster with heat & fan control also artisan hooked up. I have several question regarding roasting with popcorn roaster which i think has a more uniform heat delivery through all the beans inside the roasting chamber than a conductive (traditional drum roaster). And i havent got any detail roasting / profiling info on fluid bed roasting. What do you think about recommended time/duration on each phase of the roast. Is it comparable to conductive style (which the detailed information about that is abundant on the net). Or is it relatively shorter on popcorn roast (since the roasting chamber is small and higher heat transfer), because shorter duration means higher ROR. I've tried both long duration and shorter but i think it isnt optimized yet, and im confused for not having reference. Maybe you can share your experience with popcorn/hot air roasting regarding duration / ROR. Thanx u, and pardon my english 😁
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 3 года назад
You will be better off sticking to shorter ROR profiles since the popcorn popper, as you said, is smaller and will have a higher heat transfer. You are on the right track. Since popper roasting has so many variables, we can't give you any profile recommendations but we think continuing to experiment and record your roasts will lead to success. Good luck!
@danirinaldi1044
@danirinaldi1044 3 года назад
@@SweetMariasCoffee thanx so much for the reply, you gave me back the spirit. Thx alot
@danirinaldi1044
@danirinaldi1044 3 года назад
@@SweetMariasCoffee i have one more question actually, on every roast i had with popcorn roaster i havent noticed the "degass" Phenomena. The container has never been bloated with gass, i wonder if it has something to do with the way im cooling the beans, i let the beans cooled inside roaster with heat off and fan on for about 2minutes until room temp. Could the co2 gass being flushed away along with the air cooling them?
@bbqribz570
@bbqribz570 4 года назад
perfect timing, i just ordered an SR800.
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 4 года назад
Awesome! We hope you enjoy it
@L3Mailman37
@L3Mailman37 4 года назад
Same! Just got my sweet maria's green coffee today. Trying to take in all the info i can before trying my first roast.
@pasta_heals
@pasta_heals 4 года назад
3:15 Do you think light roasted coffees with a tighter seam and less expansion are more indicative of the roast (i.e. whether it flew through first crack quickly and expanded aggressively) or of the green coffee?
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 4 года назад
Normally, it's more a sign of the roast level but harder, more dense beans will sometimes show a less dramatic expansion.
@derekfrey3671
@derekfrey3671 3 года назад
Thanks for the informative videos. I recently got the nostalgia popper and beans from you guys and began trying my hand at it. My 1st attempt was 6:17 and I believe it was Into 2nd crack. Made a cup the next day and it was not drinkable, very bitter. The beans had a slightly burned ashy smell. Tried again and went to 5:15 I believe 1st crack had ended and that cup was much better. I also did one to 4:45 I think it was in the last snaps of 1st crack, haven't tried it yet. Do these times sound OK for a popcorn popper?
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 3 года назад
Yes! It sounds like you are on the right track. We applaud you on experimenting with roast times to figure out what levels are best for your taste buds.
@BaysviewPg
@BaysviewPg 3 года назад
Hi, I was advice by my local roaster that they normally roast beans between 1st and 2nd crack, however I noticed that many RU-vid videos are recommending right after 2nd crack. Based on my observations, right after 2nd crack has lost its fruity tastes, also the beans are much oily after degassed for 3 days (almost every beans have oil on the surface). I wonder is this the right roasting level?
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 3 года назад
It all depends on how you enjoy your coffee but in our experience, coffee roasted to to beyond 2nd crack will start to lose any of it's flavor and being to taste burnt.
@ChrisPowellMerleApAmber
@ChrisPowellMerleApAmber 3 года назад
@@SweetMariasCoffee @Callum as mentioned in context to the "oily" roast of yesteryear, it was good when we were young and very new to the coffee we could roast ourselves. As we have learned more, the discovery that so many nuances of flavor come and go between first crack and very first beans start succumbing to second. Our journey, now knowing this, is a lifetime of hobby pleasure, and discovery. Blending different beans or even blending different roast levels of the same bean can create many new tasting experiences! Thus, this recommends always documenting the roast curve - especially data points of when you hear beginning of first crack, running first, end of first; and the same for second crack. Documenting bean weight before and after roast will become useful data for us in the long term as well!
@elefja1
@elefja1 4 года назад
I was literally roasting some beans I got from you guys today on my jiffy pop and thinking how nice it would be to see a video comparison of roast levels, and.... voila!! Thanks!!
@consorts6233
@consorts6233 4 года назад
can i use an air popper to turn fresh light roast (likely to be past first crack) to a medium roast? if so, any tips on what to look for when attempting it?
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 4 года назад
We have heard of folks adjusting roasts, post roast but it's not generally recommended for the best flavor but it wouldn't hurt to try.
@consorts6233
@consorts6233 4 года назад
so i tried it, and thankfully arrived at the conclusion that this youtuber got lucky at his local garage sale. it seems my "Presto" brand air popper blows air at too high a velocity to keep beans from flying out. i tried various diy modifications, and nothing worked. i'm certain had i started from green beans i would have had all the same problems. also my blower motor is far to loud to be able to hear first or second crack, and the recessed well with the popper lid on (off the beans simply fly right out) makes it impossible to judge color. i think i'll have better luck getting a "Bar Well" coffee roaster next time I catch one cheap enough. i suspect the distinction between what air popper may work or not is how it blows air in to the chamber. i noticed on an Wear-Ever brand the air swirls in from slits along the side of the chamber, while my Presto blows the air from a bottom mesh straight up like a blow dryer, so anyone trying this youtuber's method would be well advised to check the chamber air flow mechanics before attempting it.
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 4 года назад
@@consorts6233 We recommend and sell Nostalgia poppers. In our opinion, they are the best for roasting coffee and feature vents on the sides of the roasting cylinder, instead of at the bottom, which keeps the beans inside the popper.
@ChrisPowellMerleApAmber
@ChrisPowellMerleApAmber 3 года назад
And after another 9 months... Yes, beneficial information. Certainly basic to the overall game, but critical to the novice, early home roaster seeking 'Mille Bornes' along the way!
@wlieffers333
@wlieffers333 4 года назад
Great video and perfect timing. I was having trouble identifying roast levels and this helped very much. Thanks!
@willemh3319
@willemh3319 4 года назад
maybe put all the beans in sequence on a piece of tape i.o a bunch it would be easier to see the individual differences ☕☕💪
@dabeanman808
@dabeanman808 3 года назад
Awesome. Might have to watch this a couple times.
@richardf6932
@richardf6932 4 года назад
Thanks Tom... This is helpful in my quest to improve my roasting knowledge. As I am roasting with a modified Poppery I, I have learned that there are so many variables (ambient temp, age of beans, 1st or subsequent batch) that it is very difficult to repeat consistently, batch after batch. You have to constantly adjust (much like dealing with traffic as on time of day, day of week, weather, special events...) I am using Scott Roa's book to improve my roasting knowledge. I am trying to apply his 3 commandments in chapter 10. I am finding that having a decreasing ROR while meeting the various time marks (10 min to first crack, 13 min to drop) is very difficult to repeat. What have you found to be helpful techniques to help with the process? Thanks....
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 4 года назад
This is Byron on behalf of Tom. Those variables you mentioned are going to make repeating roast profiles difficult with your popper. We suggest taking notes, measuring those variables you mentioned and factoring them. That might help. Let us know how it goes. Good luck.
@perpetuated
@perpetuated 4 года назад
Interesting and informative. Thank you for this
@MikeFLHT
@MikeFLHT 3 года назад
Very good information. Thanks Tom/Sweet Maria's.
@BaysviewPg
@BaysviewPg 3 года назад
Hi, I grind a batch of beans (full city roasted) which showing a very bizarre result. Dose in 18g, but dose out 21g. I had confirmed that it is not related to retention problem of the grinder. Can you help to explain this kind of strange phenomena? Thanks
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 3 года назад
Hmmm...that's an interesting problem. We are a little puzzled why this would happen as well. Try contacting the manufacturer of your grinder. They might have a little more insight.
@shanewilson2152
@shanewilson2152 3 года назад
Great information Tom
@wagasteamofficial
@wagasteamofficial 4 года назад
liso ba ni sa coffee
@Unclebigcats
@Unclebigcats 4 года назад
Opal's like, Dad quit bugging me with that camera! Thanks for the video, getting really good results from my SR800 roasting Ethiopiques & Moka Kadir!!
@jonkjon
@jonkjon 4 года назад
Very helpful...thanks for sharing. While I can see the difference between beginning first crack and in first crack here, I am not so sure I am proficient enough to spot it without one or the other immediately adjacent. Nonetheless, awesome video.
@davidgurung5617
@davidgurung5617 4 года назад
how much time will it take for the fresh processed green beans to be ready for the roasting????? natural- washed process beans proper roasting??? and this video taught me many new things waiting for more of this videos sir
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 4 года назад
Thank you. You can roast them once they are processed but there is usually a few month period that allows for shipping so it's pretty rare to have access to coffee right after processing.
@markmccornack7983
@markmccornack7983 4 года назад
Hi Tom. Great video! Thanks so much for taking the time to share this information! I was wondering if the processing of the green beans (wet vs. dry) has an influence on these stages of development that you describe. Is there a difference in the behavior during roast with the different preparation processes? Thanks again.
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 4 года назад
With dry processed coffees, the roast can drag out a bit going into 1st crack and 1st crack can go on longer than usual too. Here's a good article. legacy.sweetmarias.com/library/fundmentals-roasting-dry-processed-coffees/
@taylorwhite3636
@taylorwhite3636 4 года назад
Is a cell phone 'LED' light a good light to use to look at your roast?
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 4 года назад
Yes, it's good to obtain a reference for how individual beans look but if you are looking at entire roasts and needing a lot of consistency, a dedicated light might be better.
@taylorwhite3636
@taylorwhite3636 4 года назад
Do you use a magnifying glass w/ the LED lighting to examine the roast?
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 4 года назад
We can usually get a good view of the how the beans look without a magnifying glas
@executive
@executive 4 года назад
is coffee that hasn't reached 1st crack drinkable? By the way, where did you get the microscope photo @ 5:23. Thanks.
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 4 года назад
Yes, but it will have a very grassy, waxy taste to it...not as good as coffee roasted to 1st crack. Tom might be able to chime in about the source of the photo.
@executive
@executive 4 года назад
​@@SweetMariasCoffee I just tried roasting some Columbian just into 1st crack and I didn't like it. It tasted raw.
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 4 года назад
@@executive Try experimenting with different roast levels to find the the one that tastes best for you. Also, letting your coffee rest over night helps to bring out better flavors.
@executive
@executive 4 года назад
@@SweetMariasCoffee It depends a bit on the variety, but I enjoy full city most. What happens to coffee over night?
@SweetMariasCoffee
@SweetMariasCoffee 4 года назад
@@executive Resting coffee for around 12-24 hours will allow the coffee to de-gas C02 a bit, which makes a difference in flavor and aroma.
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