All things considered, I'd say rather fortunate. The important things went well, and the pilot walked away, hopefully without frostbite. Well done, pilot! I assume the appearent radio silence was due to being edited out.
@@jonascarlsson1290 no, this nincompoop made no radio calls. He also apparently expected to just drop down onto fresh, deep snow without skis. Admittedly I've never done it, but I've heard of bush pilots "skimming" the surface on something between a low approach and a touch n' go. Not a full touch, but a light skim while keeping enough energy to keep the wing flying and get back in the air expeditiously.
@@ParadigmUnkn0wn You can clearly see him talking on the radio when the audio cuts out. I also don't think he expected to put it down in the snow, but that was his list of options.
Okay. Totally goofy question coming from me: From this angle, I can basically see no superstructure connecting the left wing to the right. It's as though the base of each wing just connects to the outerside shell of the cockpit (skin?) and that's good enough. Somehow, even though it obviously works, it just doesn't seem strong enough. I'd have expected to see lightweight I-beam type structures running straight through the ceiling of the cockpit, going on out to and through the core of each wing. But, nope! How can planes do looping maneuvers with the wings just connected to the skin surface of the plane? Mind blown.
It doesn’t need to be extremely strong as the NE speed (never exceed) on these planes is fairly low. I’m not totally sure what the structure is called on these. But, aerobatic planes usually have different structures, you get monocoque, semi monocoque and some others I can’t remember but all the loads are calculated and monocoque designs have all the weight transferred into the skin surrounding the plane so it’s not as harsh as you would think!
Okay, unless it’s a cantilevered wing, such as the Cessna 210, or Cardinal, whose wing spar travels through the top of the fuselage, virtually all high wing airplanes are built this way. The load is shared with the wing strut, and the triangular brace is extremely strong.
Theres no spar carry thru because the wings are strutted. On a cantilever wing, the centre section has to transfer all of the lifting load to the fuselage, plus the bending force of the wing. In a strutted design the lifting force is split between the wing struts and the wing root attach.. and the bending force is just compression at the top (the one sideways tube at the front and one that the camera is probably mounted on at the back) and tension on the struts (which is far greater) that passes through the floor structure. It makes for a lot lighter structure compared to cantilever, but at the expense of drag. The rest of the tubes in the ceiling are to keep it true.
@@calvinnickel9995 can these do outside loops? Especially carrying through at the lower end of the outside loop? Admittedly an extremely example. But, I am trying to change the direction of tension on that setup. In order to see how strong that is, I guess.
I'm very confused. Was that a forced landing? If so, why were you slipping? If not, was the airplane on skis?.. Why were you trying to turn close to the ground? A brief comment would help.
Honestly, he pulled a normal field landing instead of a snow landing. the best thing to try and do is to use flaps, stall the landing and drop from a flare and get as close to a 3 point landing as possible. keep that nose high as possible and hope you don't catch the edge of some compacted snow.
@Moon Rambo ...not for the ride. Well, unlike cars we have very limited space to carry things around, but I always check and double check the weather report. If there's even the slightest chance that I may encounter bad weather then I grab extra gear. True for being on foot too.
Exactly - I always tell my kids, dress like you're going to be outdoors for at least an hour. Then if you crash and are unconscious you won't die of hyperthermia before you awake. Tennis shoes and jeans won't cut it in any remote area.
People commenting he should have landed on the road probobly aren't pilots. There are several reasons not to land on a road when you have a field to choose from. A few being, cars, telephone poles and wires. A Kit Fox stall airspeed is around 28 kts or 32 mph so if he 's landing into the wind his ground speed is even less. He knows he's propably going flip over but who cares at that low speed. Once your plane is a glider it belongs to the insurance company and your goal is to protect yourself and others on the ground. Great decision making skills!
Fields are good in the summer, but roads are better in the winter. Most pilots, myself included, would go for a road all day long if at all possible. It's going to be much harder to get assistance or rescue in the middle of a snowy field. Flipping, even at that speed, can easily knock you unconscious or cause concussions or injury. Help will come much faster if you're on the road, regardless of whether or not you're injured. In addition, roads are usually cleared of snow and landing is much safer. Like you said, the Kit Fox can land slow and short enough that just a small section of straight road will be sufficient. Cars will move. Yeah, watch out for power lines but just find a road without them. If you can't at least try to land as close to the road as possible.
@@Ezonial nothing is without risks but I'd rather risk getting hit by a car than flipping in a field in winter conditions where my rescue is going to be much harder.
One of my best flight lessons didn’t involve an airplane. It was a road trip to various places that we had flown over previously and even did approaches on… what often looks like a good place to land isn’t always the best choice.
I nearly landed a glider on a 30° sideward slope. It looked perfect from above. By chance, this „field“ was next to the road I used to use to get to the airfield, so I knew it was a hill not a field. Seldom you have the chance to see a field before you have to use it. It might be a good idea, though, to check the fields around your airfield.
We did this when Paragliding, on the way to the flying site we would check out possible emergency landing areas. Checking for power lines or trees that might cause rotor.
Props for the immediate switch off on the electrics. Really happy you were not badly injured ( at all? ) Little plane is robust and appeared to protect you well. Cold though! Hope you didn't have to wait long for assistance.
@@mattpierson6206 yet he tried to land in the snow, obviously. it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you. best thing you can do is do a full stall landing, minimum possible airspeed before touching the snow, carry as little energy as you can when breaking through that crusty layer. Always assume there is a crusty layer.
@@neilis2405 Not necessarily. Snow can be worse than trees, depending upon the snow type, what's below the snow, and what kind of trees we're talking about. I fly in some of the most heavily forested and cold snowy regions in the US. Even guys trying to land on snow intentionally here (snow skies, packed snow runways, ice runways, etc.) have flipped their planes on landing.
Difficult to tell your exact altitude from the snow if there's nothing to see for reference, just looks like an endless sea of white which might be 10 feet or only 2 feet away. On a sunny day you might be able to see your shadow if your flying the right way of course. Not saying this is what happened here, just pointing something out.
I feel for you. Been there done that! See lots of RU-vidrs playing in the snow. It's not worth it. When the snow grabs you there's no reaction fast enough or plane powerful enough to get out of the situation.
@@abovesummit5116 Glad to hear!!! I’m always watching Trent Palmer with his Kit Fix. Did you have bush tires which probably wouldn’t have mattered?? Safe flying again!!!!
Thanks for sharing. Curious what size tires you had on. Sometimes, if able, it helps to overfly first with power and speed to tap your mains on the surface and feel how soft it is. You can also get an idea of how deep it is too. Good job.
Keep your chin up. There’s only 2 kinds of pilots… those that play off airport and know shit happens and those who sit online and tell everyone what an expert they are and how they’ve never bent a plane… flying off a 5,000 ft runway on perfect days. Learn something and move on. The best pilots in history have wrecked planes.
Great job young man, snow is a unknown landing point, you have know idea how deep it is or what's under it, just glad you lived to fly again! Some don't.
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what really gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you. And snow hides stuff.
This ended exactly as expected while trying to land in a snowy field. Easy to say from here, but why did he choose to land in snow? Of course he will flip over.
@@headdown1 he probably didn't have enough airspeed and altitude to make a tight turn to the left/right to line up, and even then he could have probably come in on an angle and slid off the road. also, trees
@@abandonedaccount123 He was at a reasonably high altitude when he crossed the highway, and had plenty of time to turn right or left to line up on it. If he is capable of landing on a runway without coming in on an angle then the highway should be no different. But it is very easy to be an armchair pilot and speculate like I am doing. He may have had good reasons for doing what he did. They just aren't clear to me.
It actually seemed like he was fighting a cross wind. That close to the ground should have told him his wind was wrong without a wind sock or flag. Going around once or twice to see when neutral rudders were good, then flat into the wind before touchdown and allowing for a last 5secs full flaps with harder nose down, and an incredibly low-Speed into soft snow, might have saved plane and pilot damage.
Snow + wheels is bad combo. Depending on snow consistency (wet, hard, soft) as little as 2” can flip a plane or you could getaway with as much as 6”. Skis are a hoot! Get yourself some skis!!! Glad it appears no physical injury!
Maybe your thinking you could have done things differently…. But many things went right. You didn’t stall high. You flew it all the way to the ground. You put shoulder harnesses in your airplane. Good job captain.
My instructor once told me any landing i can walk away from is a good landing , any landing i can use the plane again is an excellent landing. Looks like a good landing to me
Not enough info to judge but assuming you were on skis and just planned to land in that open field you need some training. You can't just land in a featureless snow covered field like that, you have zero depth perception and no idea of the snow condition. It's the same as a glassy water landing on floats, you need a reference. Carry some pine tree branches or colored rags and drop them along your intended landing spot then make a second pass with power and test the snow by dragging the skis which gives you a further visual reference. You never just go into a field like that and land straight off. Even doing it right there is still a chance you'll get stuck and not be able to take off again. Like I said, get some training, read some books.
@@williammickelson403 Flying airplanes is a really easy way to die if one doesn’t exercise good judgement. If this was not an emergency, there’s a lot of questions needing answering. As a pilot myself, I agree with pi.
Pilots always talk about the bad depth perception with water, especially at night. But I never heard the topic of depth perception being brought up with snow... Is that a legitimate concern? I'm not a pilot, but I would imagine it to be tricky.... I'm glad he didn't crash into that ground vehicle at 1:49 - maybe he used that as a reference point for depth perception, because it looked like he aimed straight for that vehicle at the end - might have been just a (scary) coincidence though....
Yup! Plus in these overcast conditions, he would have had flat light. Ain't no way in heck you'd ever be able to accurately judge it. Some people I fly with will carry bags of colored chalk or smoke bombs or something and drop them over the landing area to provide that depth perception.
NICE highway was to your immediate left! At least if you were injured, they could get to you much easier! Duh Huh! Why did you put it down in the back 40 far from everything? Just sayin! And YES, I've been there, put it on a country road without a scratch LUCKILY! Straight stretch of road with no powerlines! When I drive throughout the local area I putt putt fly around in, I'm ALWAY's looking for obstacles and other hazards for this very reason!
Road landing debate: What is more important, the aircraft or you life? Road landing is 50/50....either the aircraft and you are 100%.... or you are dead! Land in a field and you are guaranteed to break the aircraft but 90% chance of survival.
Note the footwear etc now that pilot will be scrambling in the snow. There’s a saying I’ve long flew by, especially in light aircraft, “dress for success…and egress”
Everyone seems to assume this was a forced landing caused by engine trouble. Could OP please confirm that this wasn’t just a mishap on a (badly) planned off-field landing attempt?
All i see is a terrible unstable approach, hitting the ground while banking left and sideslipping - not even a proper flare. But yes...he did great on power everything off before exited the airplane!
Amazing work, considering the situation you found yourself in. Not only was the ground covered in snow, but the sky was as white as the ground. This makes putting the nose as the correct attitude almost impossible. As for people commenting, he should have ditched on the road. That would be a terrible idea. Roads surprising as this might seem make terrible runaways for ditching aircraft. Far to many obsticles and steep turns. This guy made the right choice and chose to ditch in a nice open field with plenty of soft snow i cushion the impact.
I broke an airplane once. I did everything by the book but I still spent years playing "what -if" games with myself. I hope you did not beat on yourself too much! Breaking an airplane can eat at a man!
Was this a forced landing?? If not.. I would encourage you to get some more instruction prior to going back up. After something like that, there are always learning points. Plus, it will help you to regain your confidence.
What was the context if I may ask? Was this just a bush landing or forced landing? I thought they were going to clip the last fence line. Which made me think forced landing short...
Did you slip the plane prior to touch down? I assume that might caused the flip over when the wheels made contact with the snow as they were not straight to your flying direction
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you. best thing you can do is do a full stall landing, minimum possible airspeed before touching the snow, carry as little energy as you can when breaking through that crusty layer. Always assume there is a crusty layer.
Why did he need to land? He had engine power. Seems to me he was in a position to find a more suitable landing spot if he was forced to land. But I don’t see any reason for a forced landing.
Not sure it was a forced landing. He had his hand on the throttle the whole time, but didn’t appear to be attempting to restart the engine. Seems he thought he could land on the snow…
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