AITA for judging your bi awakenings? 😅​⁠ 

Shaaba: WE NEED SPICY BI 🤌🏾🤌🏾 Shaaba: Who is a bisexual icon . Jamie: Me

To be fair, in the OG comics Spider-Man is a 15y/o with ADHD so the “annoying” Tom Holland version is the most accurate depiction. 🙃

*Demisexuality has entered the chat*

The whole thing Shaaba was describing about changing attraction based on how people act seems very similar to what I experience as a pansexual person, which is super interesting. It also goes both ways for me, where someone might become more attractive as I get to know them. Brains are crazy

The whole cast of The Mummy (1999). I will not be taking questions

I mean, I'm into Gomez as well, simply because of how sweet and respectful he is of Morticia. It's just so beautiful to me.❤

The "no..." at Kiera Knightly in Pride and Prejudice had me GASP.

What Shaaba is describing about attraction changing when a person acts a certain way is pretty similar to how I sometimes feel being a demi asexual person. A good, compatible personality is literally necessary for physical attraction and a bad one is a genuine turn off and makes someone feel ugly.

I can't believe nobody mentioned Rick and Evie from 1999 hit The Mummy

Shaaba, I love you, but Jamie is right about the "who does young Johnny Depp look like" debate. But I still love you. And Jamie. And this community

Old lady sees your Angelina Jolie fish and raises you Disney’s Robin Hood and Justin the Rat from the Secret of NIMH. No, I’m not a furry, BUT I DEFINITELY COULD BE.

13:28 apparently this is a common thing that happens to neurodivergent people (at least the ines I know), if somebody does something we dislike our brains fixate on that and we get repulsed by the person in general, also reflecting on how we percieve their appearance

JAMIE'S FACE AT 16:58 WHEN SHAABA IS TALKING ABOUT HOW DOMINATRIX VIBES ARE ATTRACTIVE TO HER 😭😭 incredible

Gina Torres in Firefly, Rachel Weisz in Constantine, Alex Kingston and that woman I met only once and suddenly I knew how boys feel when they can't talk to a girl (I literally starred at her with open mouth and totally flushed when she said hi and smiled - still melting and that was about 25 years ago.)

I love learning about queer icons. Sometimes, I get surprised by who’s on that list.

As a bisexual who didn't get to participate I must confess: Aragorn was my first and true love (still today) I was 6. My bisexual awekening was between Xena: Warrior princess and most of the cast of the mummy.

7:29 the big sea lady from Sinbad is actually the goddess of chaos, and yes 100% she awoke some bi call in me. Her hair was always waving around like she was under water and she lived to create disaster in the world

Kind of surprised that Antonio Banderas and Catherine Zeta-Jones in Mask of Zorro didn't come up. Watched it with my parents the other day, and I think we were all asking ourselves questions by the time the credits rolled.

I think my awakening was watching Buffy, and thinking," 🤔... Willow and Tara... but then again... 🤔 Spike..." also Giles in his Ripper era (even though he was way too old for me then), and their version of Dracula(quite androgynous)get honourable mentions... after that, I pretty much gave up trying to pin myself down to a sexuality until I found out bisexual was a thing. Also, I seem to have a thing for couples, Morticia and Gomez, Arwen and Aragorn, Rick and Evelyn from The Mummy, there's probably more lol

I didn't actually realize I was bi until much later, but Anne Hathaway and Chris Pine in Princess Diaries 2 definitely awakened something in me

I mean, Lucy Lu, Drew Barrymore and Cameron Diaz in Charlie's angels. I finally know now why I watched that movie on repeat as a teen 😂😅

Jamie with the 4 coming outs was so relatable! I've had 6 because Im ace so it took me forever to figure out what my romantic feelings were. I came out as ace at 14 and since then I've come out as biromantic, aromantic, lesbian, aromantic again, and then lesbian again. 😅

jamie talking abt not knowing who's his bisexual awakening bc he's trans is SO REAL. there are women i was attracted to that let me know i wasn't a straight girl, at least, and then men that i was attracted to in that distinct way that didn't FEEL straight but i couldn't explain why until i came out as trans. i didn't know anyone else had that feeling!

Eragon is a Dragon rider. Aragog is a giant spider. Aragorn is an elf.

Shaaba: ..but I do like- 🫸🏾🫴🏾✋🏾🫲🏾🫳🏾 🎤 🫱🏾🤲🏾🫷🏾👐🏾🖐🏾🤚🏾

13:27 YES the same thing that happens to Shaaba happens to me. I swear the outer appearance of a person changes depending on whether i like them as a person or not, and it isn't a "what a waste of a pretty face" or "your beauty is non important to me now" type of thing, it's fully "you are not pretty anymore". Also the reverse, if i start liking someone as a person it doesn't matter if i found them average or whatever before, they then start looking cute- not "i like you so now i appreciate your looks" but actually a "damn, youre cute". The logical part of my mind might remind me that nothing has physically changed, but my perception just sees something else

Watching this as an asexual person is fascinating, half the time I'm just staring at the screen in utter confusion lol

I totally agree Shaaba on the literally finding someone less physically attractive after they reveal a shit personality, for me it goes both ways (lol, im also bi but not the point) I can also find someone physically MORE attractive after getting to know their awesome personality

“you had four coming outs. greedy.” - shaaba 2024

It made me so happy that Shaaba mentioned Morgana from Merlin (Katie McGrath), she was also (for me) one of the best things about the show Supergirl! :)

Oh yes. Pride and prejudice was my bi awakening. Definitely. It's such a mood.

The burlesque mouse from the Great Mouse Detective broke down bi barriers for me.

The thing with the changed physical attractiveness that Shaaba mentioned!!! I feel this so hard! It's the first time I come across someone who experiences the same thing! I had this happened quite some time and people didn't get what I mean the same way Jamie doesn't get it. I almost questioned my sanity xD

I absolutely have the same bad person= unattractive experience as Shaaba. I'm asexual af, but demi-romantic and I've never developed a crush on anyone based on appearance. I find some features aesthetically attractive, but when I learn what they are like it can either drop them to "nothing special" or boost them to "most beautiful person on the planet" from a physical standpoint. Yes the physical features are the same, but something about the definitely personality affects how I perceive those features.

why did me and jamie have the exact same trajectory with sexuality and gender. the cis bi to lesbian cis to straight trans to bi trans pipeline is so real

In the bit about Gomez and Morticia you missed out the original actors, John Astin and Carrolyn Jones) from the original TV series from the late 1960's.

Mulder and Scully for me. The most attractive duo ever.

I did not expect you to talk about Merlin! I love Merlin so much, Morgana is absolutely beautiful probably my first gay awakening. Her and Jade from Victorious.

My Bi awakening was when Shaggy had the body of a woman in the live action scooby doo also Flora from Winx Club. There was also a couple months when I identified as a lesbian but then I decided to rewatch Jujutsu Kaisen.

The not-like-other-girls to trans man self discovery arc is way too real, lol 💜

I had a huge crush on pre-coming out Eliot Page. Post coming out…yup still crushing.

Please do this again it’s so funny and reminds me just of how bisexual I am 😂

I 3575727546887% agree with Shaaba and the "people you found nice looking actually look ugly whrn they do a bad thing". I've never understood it either and when I watch movies and shows I ofter find myself wondering exactly the same thing (how does my brain do that?).

13:19 This, but for me, it's usually the opposite: someone gets physically more attractive to me if they have a great sense of humor. In fact, Ryan Gosling never really did much for me. I'd be like, "yeah, he's arguably attractive, but like, meh." I also, however, don't watch many of his movies. Then i saw Barbie and realized he has a sense of humor, and now I'm like, "Oh, i get it now." Actually, often times, "traditionally handsome" men are not attractive to me unless I realize they are also funny.

I remember seeing the Hex Girls in Scooby Doo & thinking "...woah". A few years later, Shego from Kim Possible also had me thinking "...woah." Somehow I still thought I was straight until college.

Chel from Road to El Dorado

Hey, Jamie... I agree with you. Johnny Depp looks less like Timothy (though I understand the jawline and cheeks that are similar) and definitely more like Billy Lumis. Young Dep had the same forehead and intense eyes, that particular pic really shows it imo.

Why was Gerard Way not on that list? 😅

this is just a general reminder: liking the same gender isn’t the thing that makes you bi. liking multiple genders does. it’s a pet peeve for me when we call only same-gender attraction a “bisexual awakening.” it can unintentionally reinforce the idea we’re attracted to an opposite gender by default. I LOVE your content, Shaaba

Eris is the "Big Sea Lady" She's the Goddess of Strife and Discord. The image of her is from the animated movie Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas. She's called the Godess of Chaos, but it close enough to what she rules over. Also, Morticia is only an iffy Mom in the Wednesday series. In the rest of the Addams Family movies and shows she is a good Mom.

23:58 mentioning Kiera Knightley & Aaron Taylor Johnson in the same discussion, you all need to watch Anna Karenina, in which they play lovers.

Noo Shaaba why u embarrassed? Andy Biersack is very handsome

The Hex Girls from Scooby Doo, Shego from Kim Possible, and Penny Lane (Kate Hudson) in Almost Famous! Also Happy belated Birthday Jamie! We have the same birthday 🎉

Once Upon A Time Peter Pan is perfect, everyone from Once Upon A Time is perfect

Oohh the mention of barbie just made me realise what a massive crush I had on that purple fairy that was kinda the bad guy in that mariposa fairy movie thing? I borrowed that movie like every two weeks from my friend because I was obsessed and I just realized why 😂

100% with you for legolas and arogan shaaba, and keira knightley and orlando bloom in potc!! and 100% here with jamie for natalie dormer, my OG love also shout out to regina mills from once upon a time.... the hottest, best thing about a terrible show

Katie McGrath as Morgana in BBC Merlin was my bi awakening too! Specifically the moment in episode 1 where she enters the party in her red dress 😳

The Disney+ show Moon Knight. Mae Callaway and Oscar Isaac and so dang hot in that show.

13:00 Shaaba describing exactly what my Demi ass is VERY familiar with 😂

Skeet Ulrich looked so much like young Johnny Depp, that there was a rumor that the reason he was cast as Billy Loomis as a reference to Johnny Depp's character in A Nightmare on Elm Street. This was even referenced in the audio commentary for Scream (if I remember correctly).

I had a crush on every fairy from Tinkerbell but especially the pirate fairy one she was so cool

My romantic awakening probably was Terrence Hill (who still looks incredibly fine). Then I was crushing hard on James Marsters as Spike from Buffy. I see the Orlando Bloom as Legolas, he was going strong on the unattainable otherworldly beauty and strength, but David Wenham as Faramir was even better. When it comes to women, Julia Roberts, Anne Hathaway and Amanda Seyfried.

In hindsight my obsession with Ahsoka Tano in the animated clone wars show should have been a sign

Everyone Jaime says he’d consider someone a ‘clear phone case’ I feel judged as I hold my phone in the clear glitter phone case

Johnny Depp strikes me as a psychopath, so that "your personality makes you ugly" effect.

Victorious when Jade and Tori sung take a hint, 14 year old me felt thing I had never felt before

about finding people less attractive when they turn out to be terrible people, I absolutely know what you mean, I even have moments where I don't care about someone's looks until they turn out to be a cool person and they start looking more attractive to me. I think this is because we start associating prominent features with their character. Like, when I see someone who looks similar to a close friend of mine, I immediately feel comfortable around them and find them attractive, while when I see someone who looks like someone I don't like, their looks constantly remind me of that, and so I can't find them attractive. That, of course, can change once I get to know them, but at first, my brain will have that association.

I agree with Jamie in the Johnny Depp comparison. ❤

I realized I liked women, that I liked both and all between, when I saw Grace Jones in Conan the Destroyer. I was absolutely gobsmacked, sitting in my seat, stunned at her glorious beauty and I would follow her anywhere, even now 30 plus years later. I can think of no better person to have turn my head than Grace Jones.

The whole thing with someone getting less physically attractive or even "ugly" to me when they show that they're a bad person, even when I thought they were attractive before that, happens to me HARDDD it's so nice to hear someone else have that experience!!!

Also, should we have a movie night for Shaaba to learn every word of Chicago? And maybe hate watch Rent?😅

17:18 he's acting like a child because he's *14* in Civil War, only a week or so into being Spider-Man, & 17 in No Way Home. He didn't start when he was 17 like Andrew Garfield's and Tobey Maguire's.

🍑🩷💛🥔 Charlie's Angels in general... like damn. Yes, to "hot to not" based on personality. When I was sitting around with a friend figuring out if I had a crush on the girl that ended up being me fist GF or if I just thought she was awesome as a straight person, they showed me a picture of a woman & said "would you date her?" & I said "depends on her personality, " & they responded with "Yeah, you're bi, hun" 😂

mortica, but from the (black and white) series! and the from the movies only the older movie 😬 uhh, and have you ever watched original 21 jump street?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JAMIE! Heard you had a great birthday party and good for you.

Shabba!!! I know exactly what you mean about the person almost physically changing when you know good or bad things about them. For my example there was a woman I knew that has a horrible personality and thoughts/opinions that I find repulsive. As time went by she truly got physically ugly to me. Everything about her, hair, face, shape, voice became gross/annoying to me. On the flip side I've had people become more physically attractive to me based on their character etc to the point that I became attracted to them. I have since been told that this is an aspect connected to demi sexuality that some folks have. Hope it helps to know others understand and it may well be another aspect to your sexuality!

16:57 Shaaba: "They give off dominatrix vibes" Irene: *literally IS a dominatrix*

Yall need to watch Lip Service. It's kinda like the L World but set in Glasgow. Its such a great show. Ruta Gedmintas (Frankie in the show) is so freaking hot.

The old southern US saying is "pretty is as pretty does," meaning that how one treats others influences how one is perceived.

Love Morticia and Gomez! ❤ Skeet definitely looks like a young Johnny Depp. I believe it was an homage to his roll in Nightmare on Elm Street.

Skeet is well-known for looking similar to a young Johnny Depp to the point that Jamie Kennedy jokes about it in the bloopers for Scream.

If you haven't seen Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas I highly recommend! Now I'm demi/ace ish (still figuring stuff out) but so many appealing people in Sinbad so I can totally see bi awakenings there, Sinbad, Eris (sea lady), Marina, Kale! I am on the same page with Keira and Orlando but also agree with you Shaaba that Legolas (and Aragorn) was appealing :) We had a nickname for him: Lego-lækker-las (makes sense in Danish but basically means Lego-hottie-las). Haven't watched the whole video yet so this is just my thoughts so far

Zorro, specifically the sword fight in the stable ☠️ my poor bisexual heart

4:35 YES!!! I love Orlando Bloom as Legolas I liked Jessica Rabbit from Who Framed Roger Rabbit? I thought she was pretty & I liked how protective she was of Roger.

Yes, I agree that Billy looks like a young Johnny Depp

omg sugar rush was also a bi awakening for me!

i absolutely love Andy Biersack so whoever sent that in has incredible taste

The first thing I saw Andrew Garfield in was a _Doctor Who_ two-parter, in which he played a young guy from Tennessee living in 1930s New York. I feel like every part of that sentence is slightly weird.

Morgana from Merlin was forsure one of mine 😂 She is so damn pretty

As an asexual aromantic demigirl who experiences aesthetic attraction I really related to this video because I got so confused as a teenager trying to understand my orientation since I never experienced sexual or romantic attraction towards anyone but I had a lot of aesthetic attractions towards both male and female celebrities as well as people in general of any gender. Initially I mostly only noticed my aesthetic attractions towards males as an AFAB person due to social norms and not yet fully understanding the 🏳‍🌈 community but when I discovered my female aesthetic attractions that totally confused me, especially in light of my being a demigirl with chest dysphoria, lol. I was all over the map trying to understand myself for almost 20 years before finally discovering the existence of asexuality, aromanticism, and demigenders to explain myself and it was a huge relief when I also discovered the existence of aesthetic attraction on top of that because it explained my confusion so well. Haha, great video!

@Shaaba Totally with you on the "being mean makes you less attractive" kind of feeling because the opposite happens too. There was this guy a friend of mine had a slight crush on, but nothing more, and my friend decided to date him to see where it could lead. Fastforward a few years, he hasn't changed much, but they built a beautiful home and family, are madly in love, and me, knowing how a good person he is, find him SO MUCH MORE attractive than a few years back when he was just an average man coming into our lives. YES to the impact of personality on how you look !

Legolas and Aragorn GOALS since the first movie came out. Same for pirate of the caribbean:o

When you showed Morticia and Gomez from the 90s and said “original” I cracked up. I think of John Astin and Carolyn Jones as the OG.

Absolutely cannot comprehend how people can mention pirates of the Caribbean without talking about how hot Captain Jack Sparrow was. I was absolutely SMITTEN 🥰

I'm here for all of these Victorious vibes 😂 I too think of that song whenever I hear "Chicago" lol. Also on Bend it Like Beckham, I watched it once as a teen and then rewatched it recently and I genuinely forgot that Jules and Jess don't get together in the end. I was convinced they were gonna be lesbians. The vibes were so strong I deadass misremembered the movie

I view attractiveness the same way Shaaba does, and I’m so happy to hear someone else agree.

I did not realize why I liked the movie Stick It so much when I was younger until I watched Castle when I was in college and realized my crush on both Castle and Beckett was because I was bi and that made me realize when I was younger I had a crush on Missy Peregrym and still do now lol

My bi awakening was Medusa from Soul Eater. Medusa and Stein were the ultimate bi crush. No, I'm not ok

i definitely understand shaaba about attractive people becoming unattractive after showing an ugly trait. happened for me after i saw a photo of chris evans signing a literal military rocket

I think he understood perfectly - people become physically less attractive when their personalities suck. The opposite is also true - as I get to know people who are awesome, they become more and more attractive.