ALCOHOL Vs. WATER (Markers) - Which is best?... 

Why not try using watercolor paper for the water markers?

i wish we could've seen how the water markers performed once you dipped them in water, like the tip on the box said! as some other people have mentioned it would be especially cool to see their performance on watercolor paper, which alcohol markers might struggle with. love ya vids jazza!

The trick you are missing: watercolor paper and using water as a “colorless blender” is equivalent.

To get better results use 1 watercolour paper very inportant 2use water to blend or lighten the colours and don't compare with alcohol based markers since it is a different art media Hope this helps😃😃😃

Jazza: I'm genuinely curious if there's a trick I'm missing here. The trick he's missing: watercolor paper.

The question that everyone in the world keen to know: why the hell he did not use watercolor paper for his water-based markers?

"Tips and tricks" you're missing: watercolor paper patience-work in layers and let dry water based blender or a brush and water.

I'd really like to see Jazza try this again with watercolor paper and some more watercolor techniques. Perks of water based supplies...

"There is absolutely NO WAY to blend these pens!!!" Water and a brush? 😂

the problem you're having is that you're comparing them to alcohol markers when they more closely resemble the effect of watercolour paints! try using watercolour paper or mixed medium paper instead and approach them as you would watercolours. A good tip could be to have a paintbrush and a glass of water with you so you can blend. TLDR: they act like watercolours in a marker container.

I personally like to use my waterbased markers like watercolor! I usually have a plastic pallet, that I apply the color to first, then I use a paint brush with water (or an aquabrush) and turn it into watercolor. The amount of water, used, will change how light or dark the ink pigment is when you apply it. Another thing you could try is directly drawing on your paper and then apply water to it. I suggest watercolor paper for these techniques though.

I have LOVED all the recent marker videos! Thanks for all the work! Using hot press watercolor paper or Bristol will reduce the amount of paper pilling. Also ther waterbased markers with the real brush tips (as opposed to felt tips) are a dream to blend. You only need a small set of say, 24, and you can blend infintly. The Color-it brand even has refills. The Zig clean color markers are the best known brand but there are affordable brands like Arteza that work just as well.

Disclaimer: Jazza is not an alcoholic, he merely likes to use alcohol-based alcohol.

When it comes to art, alcohol markers are more preferred and generally feel nicer to use, when it comes to taste, definitely water markers.

It slightly annoys me that with alcohol markers he uses a colourless blender but with water markers he doesn't use water to blend/soften the colors, also not using water color paper for water based markers.

The things you missed or messed up on. 1-Use water to blend 2-Use water to lighted or soften the color 3-Use watercolor paper 4-Compare them to watercolor not alcohol markers. Anything else?

Video summed up in a sentence: The best markers are made of what you'd rather drink Adults and Professionals are older, and more experienced, to they typically use alcohol markers, and they are old enough to drink alcohol. Children don't drink alcohol, and because they're newer to art, will be oriented to using water-based markers

You might want to try using the water based markers on watercolor paper, that might not break up as quickly as regular paper does.

I feel like the « (markers ) » in the title was essential

I think the reason that you struggled so much was because they require very different techniques. For example, a thicker paper is required for water based markers. It is also helpful to utilize water for different techniques. I often use water to blend and you can get many different shades from one marker from dipping the tip in water or coloring a spot on a separate piece of paper and use it like a water color. Water based markers are helpful for me because they are generally cheaper. It takes some practice and some experimentation but often times water based markers can do similar things to alcohol ones but for half the price.

Someone tell that man about hot pressed watercolour paper and give him a brush and some water.

“See it’s not terrible” - Jazza “Yeah but the paper is” - me

Me who does art digitally: _interesting_

Personally I like water based markers for quick sketching because the ink doesn’t bleed through the paper like alcohol ink does. You can lay down a decent layer of flat colors with them to just add some interest to your sketchbook or do some experimenting without feeling the pressure that can come with working with more expensive art supplies

50% of comments: Watercolor paper! 50% of comments: Jazza is an alcoholic

People who HAVEN’T seen Jazza’ s videos: This man is crazy! People who HAVE seen his videos: Huh, Jazza seems quite calm today.

Jazza: Creates great gradients within his pieces using alcohol markers Also Jazza: Doesn't colour within the lines

12:33 here is the code, but its probably already claimed.

4:29 Jazza: you can actually see the paper fibers start to crumble Me: ..... CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HAND THIS MAN WATERCOLOR PAPER??

Jazza: The papers not happy with me! ...could have used watercolor paper Jazza: There’s no way to blend it out to white! ...could have used plain water the way you used plain alcohol...

Jazza: "ALCOHOL-BASED ALCOHOL" Round of applause for this man.

I got a skill share jazz ad while watching this:>

someone should tell him that oil markers exist too...

Jazza, to make the water color markers a little bit more usable, you can get water color paper (so that it doesn’t break the fibres of the page) and a water marker so that you can blend them. Also ohuhu has a brand of water color markers. They include a water marker with them in addition to the markers.

Some of the water based markers, especially the brush ones, can be blended out with water. This gives a watercolour effect which you can't really achieve with alcohol based markers.

I'm 28 im a professional artist this is my new youtube account and I kinda get annoyed when some people use the same methods for felt pens and alchohol markers.I use both alchohol and water based markers,well soft brush felt markers are good and I never really face the paper tearing up problem since again different techniques for felt markers,u can use water to blend it and the felt markers are really good for the hatching technique so yeah there's different techniques for felt pens which many artists don't understand

I love how he tries to show things water based markers can’t do and everyone who uses water based markers and other water color type items are just slamming our faces into a wall.

The thing I noticed is that he's trying to use water based markers like they're alcohol markers. I'm no expert, but I'm sure there's a different technique. That may be something to look into :)

Most of the time I use water based markers for hand lettering and calligraphy which considering you have made a calligraphy video trying hand lettering would be cool

Umm jazza, no offense but u kinda used watercolour too much like alcohol marker. Use water to have similar affect of softness like the Colourless Alcohol marker.

"Alcohol bases alcohol" _I used the stones to destroy the stones_

Since water based markers seem to tear up the paper, what about trying them out on watercolor paper and treating them more like watercolors. Would they work better?

As a person who tried both alcohol and water markers, I noticed that the alcohol ones have a higher chance to ruin paper. Like, if you use one, another piece of paper will also be painted, but the water ones always stay on one paper

Nobody: Gordon Ramsay in the corner shouting at the markers: *iTS dRy!*

You asked if there is something you were missing Jazza - I was literally screaming, yes Jazza Water! You blend water based marker with water or a blending pen which I believe is also water based, also you have to use the right paper. I love water based markers I have tons of them but my favourites are the Tombow ATB duel tipped brush pens and I use them for calligraphy or any kind of hand lettering.

We need to tell jazza to redo this expirement with water colour paper and use water for blending maybe the results will differ then I saw kasey golden use watercolour markers diffrently where she would colour on a glass surface and pick up the colour with a brush using watercolour u cant do that with alohol markers we need jazza to try that out too

I always used the Stabilo water based markers and always had good experiences. I could even do shading with them on cheap printing paper.

I'm not really surprised that you still prefer alcohol based markers by a lot of you only try the water-based markers the way you normally do. It's like a different medium, so you have do do it differently. It would have been really interesting to see you use both kind of markers how they're supposed to and then compare them!

12:33, its by the right side of the wall when you're picking up the markers

I not only tend to use water to help me blend my water based markers, (and as everyone is saying, watercolour paper!) but I use rubbing/isopropyl alcohol to help fade and blend alcohol markers. You absolutely can get a gradient with water based markers though. I do it all the time ^-^.

Arteza watercolour brush markers are really nice to use. You can use watercolour paper or thicker paper to prevent the issues you experienced . You can soften effects using a water brush as a colourless blender or applying to a pallette and using as paint.

Jazza's little message at the end was soooo sweet. He didn't make a big deal about it or even acknowledge that he was doing anything different than he normally would, but the way he delivered the good feels was great. His Montie character is fantastic and warmed my heart the same as all of Jazza's vids. What a legend.

Jazza: I'm going to test these markers *proceeds to use the medium incorrectly* Some hot press watercolor paper and a brush with some water could have made this a lot more fair.

Jazza: throws away the Faber Castell's My inner 9 year old who really wanted to have them: heart breaks instantly

Handlettering! That's what I use them for and you also need to use them on a smooth paper. I handletter on hp premium plus paper to practice on but tracing paper and watercolor paper is good as well.

"Really fair-skinned" Bruh to me that's like tan as heck

I edited my comment so that no one finds out what I wrote before✨

"there are some limitations" Yeah, when you don't use watercolor paper and water! XD

In my school we used to do a light layer of colored pencils first then we colored with water based markers on top of it. This helped prevent the paper from absorbing the colors immediately and that made it possible to blend them.

Jazza: unfortunately there's no way to soften these markers Me: Water? Jazza: Such a shame I can't soften and blend these Me: Water my guy Jazza: Very upsetting that you can blend alcohol markers with alcohol colourless blender but you can't blend water based marker with anything... Me: DUDE IT'S LITERALLY IN THE NAME 😂 Very fun video anyways :)

"it's all good" he says as I'm looking at those streaky lines that could've been softened with just a liiiiiittle bit of WATER and some WATERCOLOR PAPER for his WATER-BASED markers!!!!!!! *internal screaming*

He should make a series were he rates markers. JAZZAS MARKORAMA

If you use watercolor paper and a wet brush (or one of those water brushes to feel more marker like) to blend you'll probably be able to get the results your looking for. And some sick watercolor features too!

In Water based markers, you should apply to a pallette and add water!

I’d recommend Arteza water-based markers. I use them with my water colors. Blending them with water and wiping them on a pallet are good techniques

Brand: "Mont Marte" Jazza: "Monty Mart"

I used to have the same feeling about water based markers....and then I purchased a small set of tombows. They all suck for straight up coloring, but used with water or a water brush it opens up a whole new world. Also, use them on watercolor paper!

My mom read the “alcohol vs water” and she said “alcohol! No question!” I later explained that it was markers and she was quite disappointed

Okay so here's a few tips and tricks to working with water-based markers or practically any water face paint of any sort: the first as almost everyone in the comments mentions waterbase paper really it makes a whole world of different and it is made specifically for water-based colors, so it will be a lot more durable. you can also use mixed media, it works good, it will not be as good as specific watercolor paper but it is a suitable replacement if you don't have water color paper anywhere near you. The second tip is you need to change your mindset. I know you're not used to working with water-based paint but it is different than working with alcohol-based markers cuz in watercolors you can do so many things! you just need to really open your mind and remember that there is drying time after drawing, Which you're not used to since you are used to do fast drying alcohol based paint so, tip 2- changing your mindset about watercolor paint and waiting are really important things you need to remember. tip 3- like alcohol-based markers, you can use the base of the paint to stretch its limit, so you are using alcohol with alcohol-based markers to stretch their limits and to blend them and you can do the same with water-based colors! now with water-based color, and specifically water-based markers, in some Brands you get a blender just like in the Copic markers for example, in other companies or brands you would not get it but you can always use just water with a brush to stretch out the pigment on the paper and to blend it more thoroughly. Have a water container and a brush nearby cuz they are amazing tools with anything regarding water based paints. Fourth tip- have a ceramic container or a plastic container that you can draw on and a spritzer bottle next to you filled with water. when you paint on the plastic or ceramic with your watercolor based markers it would not dry and you can use the water in the spritzer to dilute it and you can get a bigger range of color from the same one marker so tip number 4- have a ceramic container / plastic lid and a spritzer bottle next to you. now from here on out it's more of you learning what you like to do with the paint then actual stuff that are necessary for you to succeed with it. I really suggest you checking out the channel ' drawing with waffles ' she's an artist and she use water-based markers quite frequently and she use a lot of different brands so you can check her out and see what she does. she have a lot of awesome techniques and tips you can get even just from watching her. one thing you do need to know is that certain brands of water-based markers, once they're dry on the paper, it doesn't matter how much water you would put on the marker on the paper, it would not budge and other brands will dilute even if they are dry and will smear anywhere so even though it is water-based it doesn't necessarily mean that it will forever be activated by water and that can actually come in handy for a lot of situations. another thing you need to know is that with certain brands you can actually dip the end of your marker into water and then draw with it like that not everybody can do it but it is possible and it will dilute the color a lot and you will get a really nice gradient effects on the paper! another thing you can do is draw on a paper with the markers and then come back with a brush and water and dilute the color or blend it more, basically think of it like watercolors because even though they are a marker they are still watercolors. If you wet the paper itself you will get one effect, if you draw with the markers and then blend with water you will get a different effect, you can use the blender marker and get a different effect from the one the water with the brush gave you, you can get a really good build-up or you can color one thing over the other once their colors are dry because they are not going to be activated again by the water in the brush or the markers. I really suggest you check out the Channel I recommended on and just experiments with them that is the best way you will get the idea behind them and I believe you will find some awesome new techniques.

I love watching these videos! It makes me better understand what to use for what purpose! :) Thank you art RU-vidrs for making me become a better artist!

Baring in mind that I don't use water based markers all the time, and I have never used alcohol markers, here's what I do know: 1) let them dry, no seriously, let them dry. With alcohol markers you can do the skin to completion, then the top, then the skirt. With water markers, do a first layer on everything before you return to add to or complete any part. 2) blending is not a thing. Don't bother. Where you want shadow, lean into a comic book esque style with harsh shadow and clear lines, because that's where it really excels. Cross hatching and simple lines also work pretty effectively. 3) I'm 90% sure that water based markers are designed primarily for mixed medium art. I often use such markers to brink detail to things colored with pencil. 4) Fine detail can be pretty easy to do with markers based on water because once dry, they won't run and become vague. They maintain a crisp clearness almost totally regardless of what you do to them. 5) Lastly (and test this before doing it on art proper) if you don't mind a little texture, some (and again, test before use) water based markers can be dulled/blended together with others using actual water. Just know that it can be finicky, and, like everything else in art, takes practice.

You can really see that Jazza enjoys making the videos. He works hard to make us happy and it really pays off. Keep going Jazza :D

You should take a bob ross video and put everything he says into google translate and change the language a lot then do what it says

As someone who always used water based markers, they are very fun to sketch with. Putting down a fair amount of a sketch with pen and going over it with water based markers. Definitely blocky and harsh, but doing it as a traveling sketch supply is fun. Also using watercolor paper is a better option for a sketchbook.

I like using my water-based markers with some watercolor pencils because you can add more shading and depth. They also blend fairly okay if you use a brush dipped in water.

Alcohol beats Water, ALWAYS.... 🤤 Oh, PEEENS..... hmm.

"I'm a professional" -doesnt know about watercolor paper

lmao throughout the vid I never thought once that Jazza could've used watercolour paper since I'm so used to associating water based markers with normal paper? These markers are basically always the first colouring supplies you get as a kid and although they're great they don't have that "advanced artist vibe" hence imaging them on paper specifically made for art kind of boggles my brain

Okay hear me out... "Painting with makeup brushes"

It would be a better comparison if he had used water color paper.

Using watercolor paper for waterbased markers can often help some of the tearing! On that same note, you can even sometimes blend out colors with water and a brush like watercolors.

IMAGINE USING WATER MARKERS NOT ON WATERCOLOUR PAPER... I CANT DEAL

You can use water to lighten it and blend it better and for the paper you can use watercolor paper since they are water based :>>>

Some ideas for using water based markers: -actully dipping them in water and and seeing what effect that has -using watercolour paper -wetting(making the paper wet) the paper(best watercolour paper) and then using them -combining watercolour and the water based markers -try using water to make the colour fade out (I never had water based markers so all fo it is just guessing what could look cool)

I like waterbased markers for using watercolour techniques without having to get out my paint. I use a waterbrush pen to smooth out the application, of course I use cotton paper to apply them onto. Cellulose paper just can't hold on to water.

What about tombow brush pen markers? I use them to add color in my sketchbook, and to line works and they work well! There is also a blender pen for the tombow markers To elaborate, water based markers are great for lining (as you said) and are nice for sketchbooks, as it doesnt tend to bleed through the paper like my copics tend to do, and my artist loft markers.

I actually use tombow markers for coloring some illustrations. Even though they're mainly used for calligraphy, I also found out they can also be used for watercolor and they're almost as good as the arteza watercolor marker set I also have. They're a very versatile set of markers and I definitely recommend them

Gotta put in the “(markers )” so he doesn’t get demonetized

I love your work. IT IS AMAZING. You would do the most beautiful watercolor BUT on the right paper. Alcohol marker paper is different than the one used with water-based media. It is incredible the paper didn't melt completely when you used the juicy water-based markers on it. You are a magician!! I would get holes everywhere so that paper you used is pretty good. Wonder which brand is the paper? x

Jazza: Adult colouring pens Me: So you can you use it, Child

Some marketing dude: “Well call them mont marte, it sounds sophisticated like mont blanc pens” Jazza: “ MONTYYYY”

Jazza: "The markers rip the paper." Me: "What about water color paper?"

A tip for water-based makers: Try using a clear plastic lid or a porcelain palette. Draw into one of the wells or lid and use some water to dilute the ink. It works kinda like watercolor, use a brush to pick up the color. This is pretty good for a base of skin tones.

Jazza, just be honest. We all know this is an alcohol review channel.

Wait but I can’t read the code it’s too tiny

Wow, I’m glad I live in Australia so I get to see these videos when they just come out

You sould try Tombow markers! They can blend, Every pack (that is for illustration) comes with a colorless blender, and they come in more muted colors and more pastel colors. P.S. please use watercolor paper and please do not try to use them like they're alcohol markers. (｡･ω･｡)

this only posted 8 seconds ago and 2 remarks already? Yall on it!

Whenever jazza throws the markers, even the "low quality" ones, I die a little inside.

Adult colouring markers ? Oo boy he's gonna make dirty jokes again.