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Alfa Romeo 147/156/GT Front Suspension Restoration 

Thanassis Gritsopoulos (Alfa Restoration)
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This is a complete guide showing the restoration of the front suspension.
New upper and lower control arms along with new sway bar drop link.
Original Alfa Romeo part numbers are:
Lower control arms 50509340 (left side) and 50509339 (right side)
Upper control arms 51834093 (left side) and 51834094 (right side)
Sway bar Drop link 60625029/46843389/46841498
The control arms used in this video are made by LEMFORDER with the following part numbers:
- Lower left LEMFORDER 27060
- Lower right LEMFORDER 27061
- Upper left LEMFORDER 28142
- Upper right LEMFORDER 28141
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@warrencarl9797
@warrencarl9797 3 года назад
Thanks so much. Very informative.
@Belznis
@Belznis 3 года назад
Very nice and explanatory!
@bruiladebeen5671
@bruiladebeen5671 Год назад
Funny, my experiences with exactly the same job are completely different: Never used wd40 for the joints, they all came off without problems by tapping with a hammer Always had problems to get out the abs sensors without breaking them after lots of wd40 soaking Always loosened the nut on the axle before lifting the car, you didn't even show how you did it I was never able to take the fork off the strut because of corrosion, even by putting it in a vice and using lots of wd 40. This all might have to do with the climate here in the Netherlands and the salt used on the road in the winter.
@alfaspiderman3591
@alfaspiderman3591 3 года назад
That's a brilliant video, very informative, thanks for the upload 👍
@birgitfischer8031
@birgitfischer8031 Месяц назад
Great video, thanks! I need to give my 147 a suspension refresh. How long would you say it took you?
@ThanassisGritsopoulos
@ThanassisGritsopoulos Месяц назад
I have done such job quite a few times and i would say no less than 3 hours per side if everything goes smoothly (usually this is not the case). It is the tools that help you very much. Since there are many nuts and bolts involved, hand tools like spanners or sockets are tiring and really take up time. A few weeks ago I had to replace the control arms (again) and this time I used a MILWAUKEE electric ratchet which helps you very much. I was able to refresh the suspension in less than 2 hours per side. Without the electric ratchet, you need to almost lay down, crawl under the suspension, do/undo the control arm bolts, control arm nuts, caliper bolts, upper control arm nut, track rod end nut etc. The fasteners are many and working with them really sums up in time consumed in doing/undoing nuts and bolts. An important fact is also experience working with the Alfa 147 and the suspension in specific. If you haven't ever done such kind of work, be prepared to spend a few hours per side. My advise is to have plenty of time ahead (do not plan to use the car the same day) and with patience it is doable. Also note that when you start feeling tired, you better stop - being exhausted and rushing to finish will not give you good results. Just for the record, the Alfa 147 is a 2001 model and on average, the front suspension requires new control arms every 3-4 years. I think I have gained quite an experience in order to reduce the work time needed. Hope this helps 🙂
@birgitfischer8031
@birgitfischer8031 Месяц назад
@@ThanassisGritsopoulos Thank you for the detailed response. I've done some suspension work on other cars and definitely agree with you on the use of electric tools saving a lot of time. I recently did a Ford Ka (new shape same as Fiat 500) lower control arm and rear shocks after having bought my first Milwaukee impact and it made it so much easier and quicker. I only have the compact version which is powerful enough to undo tight bolts but small enough to squeeze behind brakes for example, but I would still struggle to use it around tight spaces so might need to look into getting an electric ratchet before starting. I didn't know they go through control arms that quickly. Is it the bushes that give up? I'm wondering if polybushes like Powerflex would be worth the investment. This particular 147 has been off the road for 10 years and it has quite comprehensive service history from before that, but no mention of any suspension work, so I reckon it is far past its best being on (potentially) original arms and bushes at 23 years of age. It's also in need of inner and outer tie rods and a wheel bearing so I would be lucky to get it all done in a day I think. Your video and comments will definitely be a massive help in guiding me so thank you again!
@ThanassisGritsopoulos
@ThanassisGritsopoulos Месяц назад
@@birgitfischer8031 The control arms fail on the ball joints. The bushes can go bad but this will happen after the ball joints have failed twice or triple times! Just to note that a few weeks ago I had the lower control arm replaced having only 9 months of life on the Alfa 147. This control arm was an Original Alfa and it failed on the ball joint (severe creaking noise which means severe internal wear). You may also replace the sway bar bushes which are not easy to do with the crossmember on. You can drop the crossmember but things get more complicated as the steering rack is mounted there. What has worked for me is to have the control arms out of the way and using a drill, you can break lose the sway bar bracket nutsert. It is a job requiring precision but again it is doable. Just for the record, i have used numerous brands for sway bar bushes which all rattle despite using rubber lubricant. The bushes now used which do not rattle (lubricant is used to be safe) are by the brand MetalCaucho (MC). Since the Alfa 147 in question needs suspension, steering elements and wheel bearing works then you should count 2-3 days of work taking into account the available tools, the unforeseen implications and fatigue you will surely encounter! Hope this helps.
@birgitfischer8031
@birgitfischer8031 Месяц назад
​@@ThanassisGritsopoulos Thank you once again. The sway bar bushes are probably due as well but I don't know if I want to tackle those, especially considering they might creak after all the work. Currently the whole front is quite loose and knocky so it's hard to tell where noises are coming from but I don't think they are creaking. Hopefully it stays that way.
@fusionisgodlike
@fusionisgodlike Месяц назад
13:35 tighten this when suspension is loaded. this is wrong and the bushes will wear prematurely.
@ThanassisGritsopoulos
@ThanassisGritsopoulos Месяц назад
You are correct in principle BUT in the case of Alfa 147/156/GT the bushes have a metal insert which slide on the bush. This metal bush is detachable and can also be lubricated to extend the bush life.
@TheUltimate65
@TheUltimate65 9 месяцев назад
Coppergrease its nice too use, so long the parts its made of Aluminium ,
@ericcooper5867
@ericcooper5867 2 года назад
Mine is so crust compared with this 😂😂 lovely Scottish winters are so harsh on cars
@Namaride
@Namaride Год назад
I live in the Netherlands. All i see beneath my 147 is rust rust and more rust. I want to restore so much i can but im scared to disassemble anything what i cannot get back together again. A very informative video, thank you. :)
@Ingrid97_
@Ingrid97_ 7 месяцев назад
Quello è il martello dei Puffi ... usa un martello più pesante !
@Goc67
@Goc67 3 года назад
Great video, but you should have mentioned the torque specs as well. Another good tip is to apply copper grease to the long screws everywhere it goes through metal to prevent rusting. In northern Europe it is a must. Must be nice working on a southern European car with no rust.
@dominikg.8007
@dominikg.8007 11 месяцев назад
Never ever apply NOTHING under brake discs. Wheel hub must be clean!!!!!! Good video!.
@bastian9653
@bastian9653 Год назад
good job, love alfa
@brunocastex3761
@brunocastex3761 2 года назад
super vidéo,clair simple efficace
@petrvrana834
@petrvrana834 2 года назад
Hi Thanassis, cool video!
@Zeghetank
@Zeghetank 3 года назад
Well done, but you don't need to take out the shock absorber from the fork to change the upper or lower arm, unless you have to take out the axle shaft, like in your case . You are somehow lucky that the bolt from the fork got out in one piece. Usualy the head gets rounded and it needs cutting. Also your car looks damn great underneath, because you live in Greece. I envy that! :D
@ThanassisGritsopoulos
@ThanassisGritsopoulos 3 года назад
You are correct about the removal of the lower/upper control arm. Thank you for you kind words; stay tuned on the channel as more videos are in the process of editing and/or video shooting!
@alfistiadventures9369
@alfistiadventures9369 3 года назад
Nice job!
@xarisxaris3022
@xarisxaris3022 2 года назад
Καλησπέρα,πραγματικά πολύ κατατοπιστικό το video σου,μια ερώτηση μόνο έχω,το ημιαξόνιο είναι απαραίτητο να βγεί?
@ThanassisGritsopoulos
@ThanassisGritsopoulos 2 года назад
For the English speaking audience: No, the driveshaft is not required to be removed; it was removed to be reconditioned which is covered on a separate video. Control arms replacement doesn't require driveshaft removal.
@shubhodeepmitra5505
@shubhodeepmitra5505 3 года назад
great camera work, little more commentary would have been nice. I still didn't see the strut bolted inside the tower or the arb link bolted at top end.
@ThanassisGritsopoulos
@ThanassisGritsopoulos 3 года назад
Thank you for your kind words. I have omitted some parts of the assembly as I focused on the main components assembly. The next videos to come will be more explanatory.
@dasdasdsdasdasdasd363
@dasdasdsdasdasdasd363 3 года назад
It would be a good idea to pull those upper bushes apart and apply synthetic grease to them. That way they won't start squeaking later on. If they are cheap ebay arms then your camber is probably going to be out as well.
@ThanassisGritsopoulos
@ThanassisGritsopoulos 3 года назад
The control arms used are made by Lemforder which are high quality aftermarket parts. I have never had problems with funny sounds coming from the suspension even on low temperatures during the winter.
@dasdasdsdasdasdasd363
@dasdasdsdasdasdasd363 3 года назад
@@ThanassisGritsopoulos Lemforder and TRW (OEM) are reported to be good quality from what I know.
@dasdasdsdasdasdasd363
@dasdasdsdasdasdasd363 3 года назад
@@ThanassisGritsopoulos This video you may like: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-B9k3VWq02HA.html
@ThanassisGritsopoulos
@ThanassisGritsopoulos 3 года назад
@@dasdasdsdasdasdasd363 You are correct. Original Alfa, Lemforder and TRW are the top quality brands - Magneti Marelli, MOOG and VEMA are still good but placed below the top quality brands mentioned before. It all has to do with the budget you have !
@dasdasdsdasdasdasd363
@dasdasdsdasdasdasd363 3 года назад
@@ThanassisGritsopoulos TRW, VEMA are oem, so you can't go wrong. I purchased the cheap ebay items and now I'm paying for that mistake. You can get good deals off ebay but you have to be careful. A lot of that shit is factory rejects. If it's made in China, don't buy it.
@bwitz22
@bwitz22 2 года назад
Nickel merci .
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