Alfa Romeo Giulia 2.0l with jb4 dragy times -- 12.84 at 106.81mph - 0-60mph, 1/4 mile, 60-130mph 

Its just a q2. Q4 gets much better launches so kills it to 30mph

Not if you remove it prior to every single encounter.

@@bhvrdr Amazing, this makes the decision between Alfa and an M340i or S5 very straightforward I think. In your opinion, does the handling of the Giulia more than make up for the performance gap between it and the 6 cylinder Germans? I would just stick with JB4 and no hardware upgrades, or, just keep it stock. Very helpful videos and great channel!

@@AP-cc1uw thats tuff because I've owned them all and I like them all. I can tell you that the giulia is unquestionably the most fun-to-drive as far as handling. If you haven't owned one yet I'd highly recommend it at least once.

@@bhvrdr Starting to realize that. Cheers dude

@@AP-cc1uw get the m340 broski you will get bored like I did not many mods you can do car looks amazing handles great but that’s about it

Hehe its amazing what they're doing with these 4 cylinders right

Correct. Just jb4 and 93 octane

Yeah rwd. Should be around 350tq and 320hp at crank. That is all the turbo can do. Its maxed out

Hi , I have the madness power tune , is the same in hp of jb4?

@@nunziogalioto1901 probably extremely similar

@@bhvrdr but BMS claims 286/365

@@club.alfagt correct. Thats at the wheels not crank horsepower

No. In usa they only sell the 280ps unless you buy the quadrifoglio

@@bhvrdr it’s all the same 4cyl engine tho right?? In Australia we get the super and the veloce, both 4cyl but veloce comes with dual exhaust bumper and a bit more power at the engine... so just assuming it’s on a harder tune otherwise it’s the same engine right?

@@WassaBoyZan correct. They both can be tuned to 320hp

What power package? There’s no power package.

@@NEPALESE.AMERICANgive it an ounce of thought and you'll figure out what i meant

@@xIxAmxKh2xI if you live in the USA 🇺🇸 , you’re going to get the same power train and the exact same engine . And there is no power package that costs $2000 , what are you on about ? And if you’re referring to the quad, it’s a $20,000 upgrade not $2000

@@NEPALESE.AMERICAN you still have no idea what i'm talking about

@@xIxAmxKh2xI yes cause you’re talking nonsense crap

Jb4. All else stock

4.48 with over half a tank I wonder what I’d be with around a quarter of a tank

bhvrdr for the tune did you buy the jb4 wireless smart phone kit or the bms cable and does the tune give you options to change the burble or a e85 map?

@@keanucordova2506 yes definitely get Bluetooth kit so you can use your phone easily to datalog and for gauges. No burbles. You can use up to e30

Thanks man. They're great cars! Congratulations on the purchase.

The timing request from factory has to be high enough to take advantage of higher fuel octane. In cars like Audi and BMW they request more timing than they can use and just retard it for 93 octane or 91 octane. Then you add jb4 and the computer thinks its making less boost than it really is so it adds even a tad but more timing. So the more aggressive the jb4 map (the less boost the ecu thinks its making) the more timing the ecu tries to make. However in the case of the giulia the timing request is so low you get no more. You can actually record this by just looking at timing retard per cylinder on the giulia. There is zero. No timing retard means no opportunity for increased timing. Awd can get you a faster e.t. in the 1/4. The trap speed may be 1mph or less lower in awd due to the very small weight difference.

@@bhvrdr hey man thanks alot for this info. I got 2 more questions. Any need to upgrade sparkplugs? I know in some brands it is highly recommended. And then also the newest guilla models ti vs veloce, are they the same engine internals? Performance wise do they perform equally in staright line and corners?

@@mtDNA_Refresh no need at all for different plugs. Engines on the 2.0l are the same.

Jb4 piggyback only

Dragy calls out data about a second delay due to bluetooth video processing. Its always been that way.

@@bhvrdr ah i see hey look at this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vDw1FSmQ4Js.html can u do this with JB4 im planning on buying a tune just dont know which one yet

@@b58Narek jb4 is fully adjustable. You can put in e85 but contrary to that video it does nothing. That same person has the same times on 93 octane

@@bhvrdr oh okay

How is the RaceChip?!

@@ramymesiha fantastic honestly. Get the highest option. Installation was dirt easy. It performs well, but some tuners are pushing way more power for a higher cost

@@project_amg good to hear - I am about to pull the trigger and purchase RaceChip. I have 2017 Q4 TI. Did you do any 0-60 or 1/4 mile before and after testing?

@@ramymesiha no testing, under 5 seconds 0 to 60 on 2019 base model with sport. Lightest curb weight + rwd. Muffler and resonator delete. Bms intake.

Ps4s. I can only brake boost rwd car to 2k rpm or spins like crazy. Q4 you can boost higher

Rwd. Awd gives much better e.t.

I chose because its the same or more power with no chance of powertrain warranty being flagged (as soon as you flash the ecu your powertrain warranty is in jeopardy) and it has the ability for me to customize maps meaning i even made maps for a hybrid turbo using this. Also i get full gauges and datalogging capability with it. Im not into pops and bangs though. If that was an important feature ec is the choice

@@bhvrdr ya totally makes sense thats why i did the racechip piggy back at first and now i have no warranty so figured id flash. Im going to compare dyno charts from the racechip vs the ec and see how it goes.

Yeah. There's nothing else on this platform to make more power than that anyways without turbo upgrade.

@@bhvrdr yeah there is, you run an intake and a downpipe and get it retuned for those mods.

@@Wunna42 does nothing on the stock turbo. Fastest giulias out there are on stock exhaust and intake. Downpiped and intake cars with bs "stage 2" tunes are actually running slower traps, 40-100, and 60-130

@@bhvrdr that makes no sense at all lol you’re telling me something that increases airflow into and out of the turbo more than stock isn’t gonna add more horsepower than stock? you’re trippin. It’s all about the tune and I wouldn’t even consider air intake and downpipe stage 2.

@@Wunna42 it only increases airflow if its a restriction there. Here the restriction is the turbo not intake or exhaust. Its not my opinion. Its data. Look at fastest cars 40-100 and 60-130 and highest trap speeds. No exhaust mods. Look at the car with downpipe, intake, exhaust. No faster... www.giuliaforums.com/threads/official-1-8-mile-1-4-mile-40-100mph-0-130mph-60-130mph-dragy-and-timeslip-drag-database-how-fast-are-you.49438/#post-845628

Just pump. I retard zero timing on 93 octane so adding e85 or race gas will have zero impact for me without a tune for it. Logs show it

0-60 is a bit of an art. It meaures launch ability of the driver as much as the cars power.

@@bhvrdr yeah you are right. I will try doing more runs. Definitely my first time doing these runs. But i have tried following what you do, with brake boost and all. Will try again on a better road to see if that helps me in anyway. Will update soon with all 3 stock, map 1 and map 2 results

@@dawudrashid1515 sometimes rear tire pressure of 28psi is helpful

Same level of improvement since its the same engine. Just a bit slower of a vehicle overall due to weight and aerodynamics

@@bhvrdr thanks, and do you think 0-60 will be faster with awd?

@@Juiccy_777 absolutely. 0-60 is all about traction. As an example, i have highest trap speed and fastest 40-100mph of any stock turbo giulia but no way i will get fastest to 60 with rwd due to launch. Even quadrifoglio can only go so fast to 60 with rwd compared to awd cars with much less power

@@bhvrdr so are all tuning boxes the same? There is jb4, madness power pro and also tdi box....what u think go for the cheaper one?

@@Juiccy_777 no. Jb4 actually hooks up to obd2 port and communicates with the cars CAN-BUS so you get smooth power, you can have gauges on your phone, and datalog. You can also adjust maps to get more power low or high in rev band. I just bought TMC for my stelvio and dealing with limp mode because their map is not right.

This little 4 cylinder can boogie :)

@@bhvrdr agreed. I have a Ti rwd giulia running map2 but never bothered clocking it with dragy.

Just regular old map 2

i thought u ran map 1

It looks like this run was map 1 you are correct. The old map to is now map 3 and the difference between map 1 and map to is 1 psi or less of boost. You can run either one and I find that the higher boost maps are good in hotter weather and the lower boost maps are good in cooler weather. You'd think it is the opposite but this is the case because the turbo will try and make more boost in hotter weather so the additive boost in hotter weather will not trigger underboost

so is map 3 the highest boost?

@@hedidwhat9540 Yes it is.