The one thing I noticed while editing, but naturally didn't mention it in my thoughts (because I record that before editing), is the subtle facial expressions, behaviour, and statements by Ash leading up to his reveal. It was so much fun noticing those details while editing this reaction. What a fantastic story and film. What is your favourite moment and/or line? Who is your favourite character? Let me know below! ✦ KL Suggest movies here: forms.gle/ycL72CwiKFHVU7mt6 My Reaction Library (All Links): bit.ly/3uyllWK Check out Patreon reactions for FREE before signing up here: bit.ly/3eF09sy
As a side not Scott did not tell the actors about the chest buster scene but then had it re-filmed. So the one really made with the movie is a mix of the two.The one tip off something was wierd about ASH was when he id that 100mph run in place before sitting down at the counsel. This movie keeps you in suspense the entire time. Aliens is a mix of suspense and action. Well it does follow Star Wars. The actual models were just the prop guys taking models from Star Wars and cut a piece here or there. Add something. Re-paint action. The interior set was real and costed big bucks. It funny when you think Star wars only just beat out "Smokey and The Bandit" a comedy for Most Popular film of the year, the year before.
I like the smirk after Ash says "I can't lie to you about your chances, but...you have my sympathies." Also the set for the room where they talk to 'Mother'. Very atmospheric. The creeping dread in that room when Ripley reads 'Crew expendable' and realises the Company couldn't care less about any of them.
That wasn't fake blood in the chestburster scene. One of the reasons the gore in this film is so convincing is that they used real animal parts from a nearby slaughterhouse
You just have to watch the sequel to this, Aliens - Equally superb, but more action oriented. All further films in the franchise offer diminishing returns. Not 'bad', but nowhere near as brilliant as the first two...
The first two are definitely worth watching, setting a standard for almost all science fiction that came after. The third movie had lots of issues during writing, pre-production and filming, resulting in an unsatisfying film with a mediocre plot and disappointing special effects. The fourth was good, but not on the level of the first two, and the plot relies on events from the third. My usual recommendation is to see the first two. If you choose to see Alien 3, then watch Resurrection as well. But my advice is only the first two.
AGREED!! One or two of them were really bad, but Aliens was excellent IMO. Different tone, more fun, more thrilling than horror (but still plenty of horror).
It won the Oscar for Best Visual Effects, it made $200 million dollars against an $11 million dollar budget, it put Sigourney Weaver on the map, it spawned 3 Sequels, 2 spinoff films, 2 crossover films, video games, comics, novels, toys, board games, novelizations and an upcoming live action TV series based on the movie, it's now considered to be one of the scariest motion pictures ever made.
What really makes me feel so old watching this film is there are only THREE members of the cast still alive today. Veronica Cartwright (Lambert) is 73, Sigourney Weaver (Ripley) will be 73 next month, and Tom Skerritt (Dallas) is hanging in there at 89. Everyone else has passed on. It's just not possible this film is over 4 decades old. It does not compute. Insufficient data.
@@kaiielle Ash (Sir Ian Holm) was Bilbo Baggins in the Peter Jackson films. Harry Dean Stanton (Brett) was in just about EVERYTHING in films as early as 1970's through up until he died in 2017.
I went with my parents and sister. I was 13 at the time. It is the only movie that I saw as a kid that scared the shit out of me. Afterwards of course when the lights came on and we shuffled out it was quickly forgotten. It did however inspire me that night to hide in my sister's bedroom closet and jump out at her. As she always teased me it was very satisfying hearing the blood curdling scream she let out. 😁
I saw it in the theaters. The chest bursting scene caught everyone off guard. It was a wild reaction in the theaters. Before that we were all soaking in the scenery. Marveling at the ship and the initial encounter with the relics ship and the egg and face hugger. HR Giger did a marvelous job bring the alien to life.
This is one of those movies you wish you can watch for the first time over and over again. It is a haunted house in space. I hope you watch the extended version or the sequel, Aliens. It has some scenes in it that really enhance the story and had to be cut for the runtime in the cinemas, and they might answer some Isolation questions. (I haven't played the game.) Some answers to your questions: They say in tge movie they are at Zeta Reticuli system, which is about 39 lightyears away. It is set in 2122. The sequel is the only movie everyone likes. Not many people liked the movies that followed after Aliens. My favourite moment is the chestburster scene. And my favourite character is Ripley, because of the sequel. You'll find out why. 😁
Hello, so glad you enjoyed this, one of my all time favorites… when it came out there wasn’t anything like it and like you said it continues to hold up to today’s movies … this movie scared the crap out of me and gave me nightmares for years! Love it! You absolutely must watch Aliens… Directors Cut … essential viewing and will answer your questions about Ripley’s daughter Make sure you watch the extended Director’s Cut … you will love it .. Enjoy 😉
Fun little Alien timeline Movies that may be canon to the Alien franchise: Prey Predator Predator 2 Alien Vs Predator - Confirmed Not Canon To Predator Or Alien Franchise Alien Vs Predator: Requiem - Confirmed Not Canon To Predator Or Alien Franchise Predators The Predator Blade Runner Blade Runner 2049 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alien Movies: Prometheus Alien: Covenant Alien - 2122 Alien: Isolation - 2137 (Video Game) Aliens Alien 3 Alien Resurrection Left out the dates for movies you haven't watched yet for spoilers.
"Normal" for horror movies is to kill of the supporting cast and keep the "big name" cast last. Here they killed off the most recognized cast members first. Weaver was an unknown, no one expected her survive. You noticed they were just "workers" that's also why they smoke. They are just blue collar workers not "doing their jobs", they were called on to perform duties WAY outside their area. Definitely watch Aliens (the second) it is one sequel that lives up to the original.
All the cast did a fantastic job, but Ripley was easily my favorite character, not just because she's the main character, but because Weaver made her so compelling and convincing. But just a great movie in all aspects. The crew discovering the mummified giant alien pilot (known as the "space jockey") was iconic for me. So creepy yet fascinating at the same time.
Favourite moment: Jones "reaction" to the gruesome murder right in front of his feline eyes. Favourite characters: Jones...and Ripley :P I think this, "The shining" and "The Thing" are great examples of slow movies done well, but I've also found "2001: A Space Odyssey" to be way too slow. I strongly suggest watching "Aliens" (the second movie in the series). One of the best sequels ever made...but I would personally avoid the rest of the franchise. They alternate between bland and "jumptheshark-y" (imho).
If I were you i'd Watch Alien3 the workprint cut & Alien Resurrection, maybe Alien Vs Predator & AvP Requiem, but I'd forget Prometheus & Alien Covenant as like modern franchise movies they just ruin what went before just to sell a few more theatre tickets....
Great reaction to an absolute classic! Most people don't notice the alien hiding in the shuttle - even the ones, expecting it to have boarded the shuttle. A lot of the set dressing in both the Nostromeo and the Narcissus, delberately mimic the look of the alien (tubing, black, shiny etc). Most of the effects still hold up really well, except the alien baby scooting across the table and the transition from dummy Ash, to Ian Holm. This is one of those films that definitely stands up to repeated viewings, with some great, subtle character interactions throughout.
When she said we haven't even reached the outer rim, she was talking about the outer rim of our galaxy. So they are not even close to our solar system.
Ellen Ripley motto: Listen to Ripley She became everyone's best female bad*ss in movies. This was Sigourney Weaver's break out role. This is one of 3 movies I advise not to watch If you're pregnant. The other 2 are *Aliens* and *Humanoids From The Deep.*
Ripley and Sarah Connor (Terminator franchise) were BADASS female leads but also maintained their femininity. They weren't women "acting like men", etc. That's the difference in films then versus today.
"Should I watch any more from this franchise?" The sequel, Aliens, is quite good. Notable for changing up the genre of the original and for being the first big movie James Cameron got after "coming out of nowhere" with Terminator. You can skip everything after that, it's a pretty fast decline from there.
@@NZBigfoot I would say 3 is the best of what comes after, but that movie had PROBLEMS. It's amazing anything came out of it at all really. Here's a thing I learned: in a movies credits, when they get to the screenwriters part, "&" between 2 names means the names worked together on a rewrite, "and" between 2 names means they were separate rewrites of the script. This movie has (not kidding) SIX screenwriters and only 1 "&". That's five full rewrites. They lost their cinematographer of choice 2 weeks in. The level to which this production was "cursed" is almost legendary. I'm an Alien fan, so I enjoyed 3 as a low-tech alt-take of 2, but for non-fans it's a bit of a mess.
Oh, which vids to watch, I think that "Aliens" is the only one that's can't miss. "Alien^3" (Finchner) was a disappointment to most people, and "Alien Resurrection" (fourth film, Jeunet and Whedon) was coldly received although I thought it was OK.
If I were you, I would watch all the sequels and prequels of Alien. I would watch the films in this order: Alien Aliens Alien3 Alien Resurrection Prequels: Prometheus Alien: Covenant
I saw both Star Wars and Alien in the theater and instantly became a certified sci-fi fanatic. SW was breathtakingly amazing and Aliens was a nightmare in space. The dark theater put us knee-deep in the horror and I'm sure claustrophobic folks really didn't enjoy the surroundings. I loved it. Especially the nightmares at 15.
I was 18 years old when this came out, and a single Airman in the Air Force. I went to see it with a couple friends. I had NO IDEA what it was about. We sat in the 3rd row, so everything was big, and right in front of us. After the Alien started killing people, I leaned over to one of my buddies, and laughed, and said, "Can we leave now?" This movie scared me like no other. It was awesome.
I would suggest that the reason you found the slow pacing of 2001 boring and that of Alien interesting is that 2001 uses it to build the setting while Alien is building the characters. The result is that with Alien you feel like you know and care about the characters when the action starts, but with 2001 you don't. A lot of this can be explained by the direction. Stanley Kubick was a brilliant director, but he wasn't known for emotional characters. Kubrick focused on the cinematography and the big ideas; Ridley Scott knew the Alien script was simple and that the meat of the story lay with the character interactions.
You should absolutely not only go back to Alien Isolation but you should replay it from the start. Then you will realize the very close & direct connection it has to this very film. Isolation is not just based of this film, it is a direct sequel & also canon. You play as Amanda Ripley, as you might recall, & that is this Ripley's daughter! Isolation takes place roughly 15 years after Alien. The whole reason why Amanda is even in the story of Alien Isolation is that she gets a tip of where the flight recorder of the Nastromo might be & she is looking for her mother, to either actually find her or at least learn of what happened, & she ends up in the same nightmare herself. The design, the architecture, everything you see in the game is a copy & paste of this film. You even start, & end, the game on a ship that is of the exact same design as the Nastromo, just with some different colors. But the actual Sevastopol Station the vast majority of the game takes place looks exactly like the Nastromo. A while in you also get a back story where you visit the derelict spaceship of this first film & very similar events happens. And Isolation also have androids, yes, one highly advanced & then the working Joe's. And the alien itself, 100% right. Looks the same, behaves the same, sounds the same. I think you will not only get a huge eye-opener if you get back to Isolation & take it from the start but I think you will enjoy the game so much more now that you have seen the actual film it literary is a sequel to! Now the story of Isolation will make so much more sense to you. It will not just be a scary sci-fi game, now the story will have much deeper meaning. And so will the atmosphere.
This movie still holds up very well even today, 43+ years later. It must be said that Jerry Goldsmith's ominous and foreboding music is a perfect companion to the film, filling the viewer with dread right from the very beginning. And of course the attention to detail throughout is just amazing. It feels like a real ship and a real planet. So well done. The sequel is considered one of the greatest sequels of all time, though it is a different kind of movie. Whereas this one is an atmospheric slow burn, the second one is more of a straight up action sci-fi flick but done so well. In my opinion, none of the other sequels beyond the second one are wroth watching. You will only be disappointed (because the first two set the bar so incredibly high).
My two fav are Ripley and Parker. I like your Alien reaction, i hope you also look the 2nd movie Aliens. I couldn't say what's my fav, i love both movies. I saw the 1st movie Alien for the first time when i was about 11 or 12 years old and it scared me to death! I looked the 2nd movie Aliens when i was about 15 years old, i loved it and after that i became a big Alien fan!
This came out when I was 8, so I definitely wasn't allowed to see it then. I do remember seeing the sequel Aliens in theaters, it was amazing to say the least. You should definitely watch that here. After Aliens it goes downhill from there. The prequels were okay, worth a watch I suppose. There's also Alien vs Predator, it's middle of the road as well.
Everyone is going to tell you to watch Aliens, but I will be the one who also tells you to watch Alien³. In particular, watch the Workprint version, which was introduced on the special edition DVD in 2004 and has been included on all releases since (you can even digitally rent this version on all major services, where it is called the Special Edition). It's a tough movie, and an inherently compromised movie -- the director, David Fincher, turned in this cut after constant studio interference during production, and decided to quit instead of completing the extensive changes they asked for. But (without giving anything away), it features a great lead performance, the best of the series IMO, and is just a really interesting chapter in the series.
my mother watched Alien when she was pregnant of my older sister. She left the cinema before the end because of the tension. but sho loves this movie. Just couldn't finish the first time .
The film came out when I was five. I was about eight or nine when they showed it on TV and stayed up late to watch it without permission. It changed everything I thought a horror or sci-fi film could be for me. And people were blown away by it, although I do remember that some critics did not like it (one said that the worst thing about the monster was that it drooled too much).
The film that gave us the terms "Facehugger" and "Chestburster". I love this and the sequel Aliens. 3 & 4 I each saw once and never felt the need to go back and see it again.
Proof once again, 43 years later, that practical effects are just better. Also, this is a great film, but putting it against 3 dogs in your poll certainly helped it to win by a landslide. 😊
The problem with making polls of movies I haven't watched before and don't care to look into in case of spoilers, is that I often don't always know what might win! Just picked 4 recognizable sci-fi names to pit together. The other three I do plan on watching eventually.
I grew up in an agrarian town north of Dallas. Star Wars blew my doors off, of course. The entire town was buzzing about ALIEN because Fox had done a test screening there, and everyone who'd attended said, "you must come see this!" Some said they even liked it better than Star Wars. So having no idea what kind of movie this was, for my twelfth birthday my parents dropped me off at the theater, with a friend. We were expecting a rousing space adventure. I don't think the children of the Internet can quite fathom how insular and ignorant we were, growing up in an agrarian town in the late seventies. The Internet didn't exist for us, though I had a set of printed encyclopedias. My TRS-80 was a sensation. We had three networks and a religious channel on an antenna-fed television with grainy images and distortion. The VCR was just showing up to start moving us away from "appointment TV." Movie reviewing was two guys named Siskel and Ebert on once a week. From the opening score, I immediately knew what sort of movie we'd inadvertently committed to: a grown-up, honest to goodness horror movie, of the kind whose unexpected TV advertisements were the bane of my childhood, like Magic or Suspiria. It was like diving into icy water. But neither of us were willing to back out in front of the other, or spend two hours cringing and bored in a theater lobby. Today Hans Giger's surrealistic style is a cliche, but this was his debut. No one had ever seen anything like it. The corridors and the skeleton were so utterly outlandish, so foreign, that we could scarcely grasp what we were looking at. And it was so obviously menacing! It was like the astronauts were crawling through the corpse of a diseased whale. I knew what would happen to Kane the second he started convulsing. My brain put the pieces together, and my body went rigid, frozen in panic. The good news is I've never again frozen like that, and once literally dodged an oncoming pickup, so I'd honestly say horror movies saved my life. But ALIEN was the first. After the famous scene, the rest of the movie felt a bit anti-climactic, a monster in a scary place. Ash saved it, giving us something utterly uncanny and unexpected, though even back then I would have preferred a bit of foreshadowing that androids existed in this world. By the time Ripley discovered the creature on the shuttle, I felt numb, pushed beyond my capacity to feel fear. And when 'Salem's Lot aired on TV only a few months later, I watched it with joy rather than fear. Then that damned, silver, spidery thing started showing up in my nightmares. By the time ALIENS came out, I was graduating high school, and what a wonderful catharsis seeing the monster that haunted me gunned down. Perversely enough, the computer game felt like a reunion with an old friend, who'd become a playmate I could finally spend time with and learn about.
Cool reaction and opinion. I think it’s really funny that when it came out back in 1979, people didn’t know anything about the movie, the Trailers don’t show that much, the Alien is not shown and everyone was expecting something like Star Wars. And of course no one would know if Ripley survives at the end or not. That must have been an experience. I’d recommend watching the other movies as well, I like them all bc every one has a different direction and feeling.
I also have no use for 2001, but I love this film. The year this takes place is 2122. It is a future where nearly everything is owned and operated by 'The Company', aka Weyland-Yutani. The real core message behind this universe is about unchecked economic power, not all that different from Ridley Scott's imagined future in Blade Runner. Ellen Ripley is absolutely my favorite. I'll just say at the end of this one she's well on her way to being the single bravest character I've ever seen in a film.
I saw it the cinema when it came out, on the big screen in total darkness with the sound really loud, the jump scares were something to behold people physically jumped out of there seat. I was nearly it the row of seats behind me when the face huger came out of the egg. It was truly unlike anything I had every seen before, and no film has every come close to that experience since.
Amen! Finally someone who has the same feeling about "2001 A Space Odyssey" as me: A visual masterpiece (especially for the time) but _incredibly_ SLOOOOOOW paced. If that movie was edited by modern standards it would be about 45 minutes to an hour long.
One of my favorite movies of all times. Just think seeing it in the theatre when it came out. I'm happy it was bright sunshine out. The sequel ALIENS is worthwhile, but the rest are junk. The Pre-Alien movie Promethius is worthwhile. Your reactions are pretty good. I was expecting you to need a seatbelt for you chair. Well I'll be a watching..
This is a fantastic sci-fi/horror movie. Aside from the great effects, the cinematography and set designs are great. The alien ship, and the look of it on the inside is amazing. Sigourney Weaver and Ian Holm are great characters. The tension and sense of fear works great. As for the entire ALIEN series, in my opinion you have watched the best movie of the series. Most people enjoy the second film "ALIENS" more so, and it is a very good movie that you should watch. After that you can stop, because the series really takes a nosedive. Glad you enjoyed this.
If you do take up Alien Isolation again, the map allows you to change floors and that might help with getting around. The tracker has a bar on top that directs you to where your objective is. The developers had access to a lot of the original assets for the film: photos, sounds, set drawings etc. The game takes place 15 years after the events of this movie. I love this series and the game, I could talk about it all day!
What confused me as a kid when this movie came out was at age 7, this movie was rated R which meant I could not see it, yet they made toys for kids based on this movie?!🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
I would absolutely love for you to finish the franchise! So many people stop watching after the sequel, due to all the comments saying don’t watch the others. While I agree that the first two films are the strongest, Alien 3 directors cut is very solid, Resurrection is the weakest film, the prequels are fun, over all I want to see what you think of them and your opinion. You’re your own person and should absolutely continue and let us know your thoughts! 😊❤️
Don't forget to watch the "special edition/extented cut" for its sequel "ALIENS" which is even better than the first one (probably the best of the alien franchise) and is as scary and stressful than the first one ;)
If you're gonna watch the sequel be sure to watch the Director's Cut, or Special Edition, as the Theatrical version cuts out the entire subplot about Ripley's daughter. Since you've already played Isolation, I figure that's not a spoiler detail.
I like the Special Edition but I totally understand why those scenes were cut from the theatrical version. Overall I still prefer the original theatrical cut because the whole thing just flows better, but it's nice to have access to that extra background once in a while.
I was 11 years old when this Classic was released. I was scared of Dracula Vampires also Werewolves plus Frankenstein. But after watching this at 11yrs old I wasn't ever worried by any of them again!!! Blooming scared the ???? out of me. and I love this film and the professional acting and the pure genius of the people behind it. Stay Strong True Fan's. Cheer's 🇬🇧
It's also a nod to maritime tradition, just like the burial in space. Cats have been companions to mariners since men first went to sea. The British navy still had official ship's cats well into the 20th century.
"Is this the Sol System, but the outer system?" "I know this was made in 1979, but does this take place in 1979?" "Has the Alien infected him (Ash)?" [literally calls him a robot] "Robot or Alien infected?" "Is the Alien going to turn off the self-destruct?" [sees Jones being put in the sleep pod] "Wait, whereas the cat?!" (all quotes summarized) ...What?! 😳
kaiielle ...I'm just glad you're NOT taking my slight ribbing as a personal attack. I can't wait to see the shirt. 😁 Go in Peace and Walk with God. 😎 👍
I discovered your channel through this video, really enjoyed your reaction. I would love to see you react to aliens and alien 3. Unfortunately the rest of the franchise after that isn't really worth watching in my opinion.
One of my favourite movies of all time and Ripley the best character of all time, thanks for picking up the details in the game that are in the movie I completely missed that.
A little piece of trivia for you. In one episode of Firefly we briefly see a piece of equipment labeled Weyland-Yutani. That is the name of the company that sent out the Nostromo. Which means that the Firefly universe coexists with the Alien universe.
You’ll appreciate Alien Isolation on a while ‘nother level now that you’ve seen this. I’d totally watch your play through of it. It’s one of my all-time favorites.
If you move on to "Aliens" I recommend watching the theatrical release for the first time watching the movie. Besides pacing, I feel the story is more effective in this version. Also I'm pretty sure that 2/3rds of the jump scares in this movie is Jonesy being a jerk. Also also, "2001" isn't just slow-paced. It's a still-life painting just sitting there.
I so agree. I really like the pace of the theatrical release. There's a reason these films get edited and it's not just time constraint. I do appreciate the Director's Cut, however, which I believe is more for people who are already fans of the film. I would go into more detail, but I don't want to spoil anything for Kaiielle.
2001 surprised the hell out of me. Amazing movie with great cinematography. And it started me down the rabbit hole of Golden Age sci-fi. Definitely recommend watching it.
In fictional media, whether a book or a movie or whatever, anything could exist at any time because it's not based on reality. Just because something didn't exist in real life in 1979, doesn't mean that it can't exist in a fictional world in 1979. That said, I did look this up (and talk about it) in my thoughts and review part of the video!
We already have the great debates about Lennon or McCartney, Coke or Pepsi, Creamy or Chunky (peanut butter), and chocolate or vanilla. After watching many reactions to this movie, I think we need a new category: Save the cat, or Screw the cat. The jury is pretty split on this across most reactions. I think we know where kaiielle falls on this topic…
The reaction from the crew when the facehugger appears is 100% REAL! I love rewinding this part, looking at each actor's face. I was 12 when I saw this and I let the balloon that I had go, causing people to freak out even more.
I would watch Aliens (the 2nd film), but no more after that! Aliens I think you might like even more. It's more action, more thrilling - it has a different tone, by far, than this one (though I did also enjoy this movie quite a bit).
There aren't many perfect sequels. Movies that raise the stakes but build on the first one. T2, The Road Warrior, and Aliens are the only 3 I can think of off the top of my head.
After seeing this movie in 1979, It was a surprise to see a Woman (Ripley) as an Alpha Figure . I must admit, it was a surprise to me that she was the only one to make it...
Aliens is the best. You can stop after that one. However I would recommend Prometheus and Alien covenant. Not the best well received ones, but I enjoyed them a lot. Great review and watch by the way.
Yup! Kaiielle, please watch Aliens (1986), then whether you want to watch Alien and get your heart broken into pieces from the beginning of the movie that's up to you. Alien 4 (resurrection) was RIDICULOUS IMO. Please *please* react to Prometheus (2012), you can even look at it at a standalone scifi thriller movie. As for Alien Covenant, I watched it tonight but fell asleep halfway through but I kinda enjoyed it. Gonna watch the rest soon lol
late here but anyway - fun stuff eh ? many folks think the 2 nd flick ' Aliens ' is even better..... the follow ons, not much thou I like ' Prometheus' which is kinda the start of the Alien story .
I was 10 when this was released, so had to wait until it was on tv years later (or maybe video, it's been a while) before i saw it. In the meantime, our local book shop had a photo book of the film, scene by scene, and i remember looking at it briefly, being terrified by the images, but going back to the store multiple times as test of how much of it i could get through 😅😅
I always enjoy watching people react to this movie. As far as the other movies in this franchise... Definitely watch Aliens (the immediate sequel to this one). And the others, just watch them as a curiosity. They aren't nearly as good as the first two = /
I would go so far as to say it's a Gothic horror. Not only is the setting, the ship, a character of its own, the ship's computer literally has conversations with members of the crew.
Hi Kaiielle, it's great you've seen this sci fi classic and I enjoyed your reaction to it. Yes please watch the sequel: Aliens - it's awesome and is one of the best sequel of all time. It's widely regarded to be better than the original. I'm subscribed to your channel and I enjoy your reactions, keep up the fantastic work :)
That’s funny about 2001. I’m a cinephile and have watched tons of classics and all of Stanley Kubrick’s movies (and enjoyed them all) but I have never been able to get through 2001. I’ve started and stopped it so many times and yes, it….is….SLOW.
