Alien: Romulus - The Nostromo Connection (Theory) 

Dumb luck scenarios do happen

Surely Ripley’s pod was emitting a beacon of some kind.

@@BulletSponge178- no they don’t. Would be ridiculous

Not at the magnitude of the Universe​@@BulletSponge178

It always seemed to me that WY knew precisely where the Narcissus was and was waiting to bring her in for some reason. A change of leadership after Nostromo was lost maybe- who cares? The same way they knew to send wild-catters out exactly where to hunt for the Derelict. Nostromo was likely in a commercial shipping route and their emergency beacon- the black box- would automatically launch on initiation of autodestruct. With the existing flight plan they had to have filed, wouldn’t take a great stretch to find the beacon. That said, they could likely find Big Chap’s remains, but absolutely nothing living survives extended hard vacuum exposure.

So ridiculous so so ridiculous that they could find that thing floating in space It's space like come on😂😂😂

how can anything live in the vacuum of space,it’s an idiotic concept 😜

@@dbsthumperBecause without that the ALIEN wouldn’t be an Eldritch Horror

Holy shit… if so🫨this kinda ties into what I’ve been writing, bonkers - So there is potential within what I’ve been writing for an exceedingly plausible reason and event sequence that could, could explain how Big Chap could come back- I totally wasn’t going to include that, though it’s just fascinating, that it slots perfectly into the events dictated by the treatment without causing any issues - spooky 👻

quote by Poe Dameron. i would love to see him in alien romulus with that line, hell yeah disney... do dat!!!! we need that quote now in every disney stuff

Ridley is the best

Additionally, no real-world organism can survive severe trauma like that, no even jellyfish or starfish. There’s always an upper limit to regenerative abilities. These things can’t be immortal.

I think most people would think of the movie anyway so it's not a huge plot hole. Would be foolish to base the continued story on text or screenplay instead of the movie that made it so famous. And being alive after floating through space is absolutely something I can believe.

​​@@whatsmolly5741 It is a massive plot hole because you see them shot down in droves in Aliens. You literally see Vasquez take one out with a small caliber pistol. They're clearly not indestructible. Beyond that how is it in any way believable that a small, dark spec in the middle of the vastness of space will be found by anyone. It's not emitting anything to track it by, it can't move in any way. Is it going to fart its way towards the nearest planet? It will only take an eternity to get there.

nobody has survived long enough to find out.

But those xenomorphs in alien covenant weren’t the normal xenomorphs, they were what David genetically engineered so they may have been superior to the normal xenomorphs?

Have you seen Prometheus and covenant?

Contrived, even

Unless the Company was able to come up with a route the Nostromo and shuttlepod may have traveled and thoroughly explored that area. You don't think they would send a follow-up crew in case the first plan failed? Its not as illogical as you may think, and who knows what kind of scanning equipment a space vessel in the 2100s has.

I have a feeling Alvarez will have pulled some influence from Isolation

@@himbourbanist He already has. A lot of the art style appears really inspired by Isolation. Sure, Isolation itself is directly based on the original film, but there's some images of props derived nearly 1:1 with the game, particularly (or maybe only, I might be misremembering) the Save Station.

Studios almost never a give a flying f about the value games add to an IP. No matter how well written, or how much and in impact it makes on the fans, movies almost never incorporate the lore of a game. A director may pull inspiration from a game but will never, ever respect the hard work good game devs put into their games. They may rip and steal themes or motifs or even direct story lines, but will never credit or even work along side games and their devs. In this case, I would be extremely surpised to see the director mention anything even remotely about isolation, no matter how many similarities there are. There’s slim to none chance the dude even games, let alone knows what isolation is about.

They should totally convert Isolation into a movie I think.

could be cool! I think the story and experience works best as a game personally. I think Alvarez is going to pull some ideas from it though@@tidalboxer

This 👌🏻 I completely agree.

I think this is set 5 years after the events of Alien Isolation.

@@FedorevskyFede said 20 years after alien so 2142? Few years after the events in isolation

Man... Isolation is by far one of the best survival horror games I've ever played, and it was a huge bonus that it was Alien lore.

It's 5 years after the events of Isolation

True! But Ridley deviated from the script by not showing the alien explode, but fall away from the engines intact, completely leaving the door open for a sequel. (And back in the late 70's early 80's sequels were becoming popular) Also, with future scanning tech WY could easily triangulate the beast's coordinates.

"I don't like that at all" That is what I say every single garbage film hollywood has pumped out in the last two decades at least. I wish they would just stop.

Bigchap survived being incinerated by the Narcissus’ engine because he was wearing asbestos underwear.

Yeah. Thats what i think too.

A "bit" of a stretch? The universe itself isn't big enough to contain a stretch as big as brining back the original alien.

Dear god no more fucking clones 😂

C'mon, the entire movie and Aliens is a stretch. Unless you believe it could seriously really happen.

I’d argue Ridley is far worse, Lucas makes tweaks sure but it’s usually consistent within his universe and not that big a change.

That would be interesting, fast growth, fast metabolism and a lifespan measured in days when active but with a possibility to hibernate for long periods of time.

@@louisazraels7072 exactly, think of how the eggs lay dormant for decades, if the hive is dead it is the responsibility of the first born (most likely a drone) it's job is to create a queen, and therefor establish a new hive. To this end it's first priority is to create a queen egg/face hugger to produce a queen and probably a new host. Like insects I imagine more than one, and the first born probably kills the others to become the dominant queen. When a queen either ant or bee starts to get old, or dies, some of the larvae are fed a special food, usually referred to as royal jelly. The larvae who eat this develop differently than the larvae who don't, and become queens. In the original script/screenplay by Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shusett, (before Hill, Giler and later Scott got their hands on it) the alien was part of a ritual breeding ceremony of a long dead civilization that had evolved to a point where they could no longer reproduce naturally, they were advanced and designed this go between to help keep the species thriving, something devastated this civilization and what was once science degraded into a cult like religion. The way it was written and their notes indicate that the creatures born from this process were feral and dangerous but would continue to evolve into their core intelligence species, cultivated and groomed by their elders. Something happened and the civilization completely collapsed and the cycle was broken. This is what was written on the Walls of the breeding temple/ pyramid they found after exploring the derelict spacecraft. A ship that like the Snark/ Leviathan/ later called the Nostromo was unfortunate to have land there some time in the past and had its crew decimated by the door, their hybrid children long dead to the sands of time. Of course the temple was a trap waiting to be sprung by the next unfortunate souls who happened to stumble upon it. These scenes were all excised from the script because it was deemed too expensive. Once O'Bannon convinced Ridley that Giger should design the creature it's evolution slowly began to change during production, of course Hil wanted to turn it all into a story about humanity creating the creature as a bio-weapon and the crew of the Nostromo stumbled upon it responding to an emergency beacon. That's where the parts about Ash were introduced. Later Cameron fed into the idea of this being some alien insect-like species when he wrote Aliens, partially borrowing from Heinlein's Starship Troopers. Later Ridley wanted to go back and explore elements concerning the origins of humanity, the God Complex and John Milton, Paradise Lost.

@@BigHeadClan yes but I'm also talking about how they kept changing their stories about how their works came about. Go back and look at their interviews from the 70s and follow how their narratives kept changing with time.

Cocaine and ayahuasca.

Agreed

🤣🤣🤣 awesome comment lmao

Totally, and if they do it, then you know Romulus 2 will be that they rescued the queen from Aliens, was in better shape at least.

The declaration of creative bankruptcy already happened after the first movie when it was decided to turn the xenomorphs into space bugs!! The only trajectory after that was straight down the tube.

@@SmartCookie2022 Quite agree. Alien 2 was exciting but being able to kill them so easily? Nah, ruined it. But it will be very hard to recapture the tenseness of the original. Doubtful we will feel that again. So this movie will have to be intelligent.

And that tag survived a 4 quadrillion degree blowtorch?

@@ahoyforsenchou7288 Yes as it was er, encased in a er,, heat resistant Polymer thingamajig. 😜

I think your idea is legitimate. And if not that, then something similar is entirely possible considering Ash was commanded to preserve the alien at all costs

Maybe the cocoon/asteroid contained an alien hatched from David's embryos he implanted in the sleeping colonists from covenant

Nah - it's WY, so no doubt it's more scientific fuckery involving Big Chap and harvesting the Black Goo in him (because THAT'S canon now!) and recreating the David experiments. Suddenly, they sussed it, got eggs, made facehuggers and boom.

You started off good, but you're getting desperate and mocking your name now

God forbid someone has some fun with a little speculation.

@@dylanhalThe dude literally saw a tweet and decided to make a video on it when it is one of the dumbest “theories”

And space itself would also be moving.

It’s science FICTION

@@cland9189 Yes, SCIENCE Fiction, not Stupid Fiction...

Ridley didn't write this movie

Not since I was a wee facehugger myself, good times

​@@rodclark4960best of times🎉

Freaking A! LONG LIVE LadyAnn 😎

She's a Queen forsure

I think the refinery and the Nostromo were vaporized in the blast.

@ronrobertson4327 highly possible. Core overload shouldn't be dependent on coolers. However, this is a "different universe".

The director's cut isn't canon so no one was cocooned. Also if they were that close to find the wreckage of the Nostromo wouldn't they just hear the signal from the Space Jockey vessel and just go there to get as many eggs as they want? No one turned that baby off plus I assume any rescue vessel sent to look for them would have a much more powerful sensor package than an outdated space truck. This whole thing just feels like a ridiculous reach in my opinion. Just let the original xenomorph be dead. There's no believable way to make this happen.

Three times.@@ronrobertson4327

It’s 3 nuclear explosions. Nostromo is dust. Surely they could trace the shuttle’s path to the area it happened. Finding Bigchap is another thing.

I mean, it’s set in between Alien and Aliens so that in itself is partly connected.

@@MBG.426 but like I say before the film trailer was even released they said it was a standalone film

@@MBG.426 I think they were experimenting on that space station with something because in the trailer when that thing deposits, a great big tube, it reminds me of alien versus predator the hybrid and it wouldn’t surprise me if something like that is going on too

@@jayguy5139 Bruh avp isint cannon do you think they are gonna be a super predator boss fight with just a normal xeno NO ofc not

@@jt3596 all I’m saying is that there were other aspects that they could’ve gone off in. I’m quite happy with that. They have gone with the big guy if that is true anyway we’re all fans chill out.

Hate to break it to you but there's a lot included in Dan's scripts that never ended on the movie screen. So it doesn't matter if he said something about the Xeno in the scripts. If it's not in the movies, then it's not canon.

They are far from indestructible! Aliens is a good example of that!

Silicone skin and not needing oxygen have both been canon for decades

The point of the Xenomorph is literally the idea is the the perfect hunting being. Surely you know that?

The whole idea that the alien is that it is the perfect organism so why wouldn't it be capable of being effectively immortal? I respect that James Cameron expanded the world of alien but I really dislike his direction of turning the monsters into expendable bug like creatures who have a hive mind. It really minimizes the vast horror of the alien imo and makes it no different than any other bug like monster such as the ones in Starship Troopers for example.

@@asterix1912 I wouldn't despise the idea of an "indestructible" creature but the whole premise around a Xenomorph is built to withstand. The only think I will agree with is hoe he was done in, Fire.

I like this idea MUCH better!

That would make a lot more sense, plus the trailer appears to show escape pods with blood stains. Escapees from Sevastopol along with a load of stowaway face huggers would fit what we saw a lot better.

Jonesy can easily solo an entire planet of Xeno’s but doesn’t because he hasn’t unlocked his true power

makes sense

Exactly! And yep, they most likely left her to die in the vastness of space😬

@@asterix1912 but aliens is the sequel

@@jt3596 if you follow that timeline, then yes. I ignore Aliens as an actual sequel to the masterpiece that is the first one.

I liked the part of the big chap being "responsible" of the infestation of the station, maybe the big chap even evolved into a queen

Ah yes. It’s easy to find a body in space right?

How would he be attracted by the gravity of a planet?? The Nostromo was already well on its way back to Earth when it was blown up. They were definitely out of the solar system. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be rude but do you guys who think this is a great idea not understand how massive space is and how impossible it would be to find a tiny spec of blackness that gives zero emissions or signals to trace it by? This whole idea is preposterous.

@@xKinjax Thank you for talking sense. I'm amazed that anyone would think for even a millisecond that finding the original alien is a good idea. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Yeah, I'm sure Wayland Yutani has spare change enough in their couch cushions to scrounge up a ship, and expeditionary crew on short notice to take a jaunty stroll on down to Zeta Reticuli, just a several few light-years away, packed away in hypersleep for several months, possibly years, to try and locate a giant charred cat turd floating in space, that's gotta be...right arooouund.....OOOH, HERE!! Yep, right where they left it..... Because nothing EVER moves in space, right???

Son of Big Chap 😂😂🤣

Me and my sister had thought about this years ago. Can you imagine it? It would be SO crazy.

@@barbaralee7385 humanity would be beyond fucked in that scenario

@@AncestorEmpireGaming. In every port and no lube !

How about good writing and an original plot instead. This is how "studio exec created" movies happen

Newt’s dad Russ Jorden was Kane 2.0

Modern films written by hacks have no qualms about dumping all over classic works or IPs.

@@ahoyforsenchou7288 Agreed. To be honest, I wish 20th Century Studios would let the franchise rest for awhile.

Please no queen🙏😂

No, they manage somehow to take that black goo stuff from the Alien (Big Chap) That was used in prometheus and Alien covenant to make new aliens. In a deleted scene from Alien Covenant, David sends a message to the company, usong his david security code. he is giving an olive branch to them. Now we know the director is on record saying he loves all the movies and what to include them all. So they all tie in. David gave them possible instructions, too.

I think they should glue giant googly eyes on him. Oh, and give him a hug. Poor 'Ol Big Chap, he's been through so much. I mean, starring in so many bombs, it's no wonder he lashes out at everyone.

yep

You mean 90% of the special effects are practical, not 90% the movie 🙃. Hope they dont fuck it all up once again

Not getting my hopes up

I would just like to say that since we found out that David is part of the perfect organism over the 10 years, he perfected the organism. He noted that it had regeneration capabilities, so it’s highly likely that this is A truth, and a welcome addition to the ultimate survivor

​@@jayguy5139as the times change, I think it is only fair that the alien changes into something more. This monster is the ultimate survivor and with that, I welcome any additions to its unstoppable nature.

In a deleted scene in Alien the Xeno turned Dallas and Brett into Xeno eggs. Dallas was half formed but still had human thought and so begged Ripley to kill him.

Allegedly there were leaks that say: *SPOILERS* They clone & reverse engineer Big Chap/Kane’s Son to make their own eggs & facehuggers.

@@juiceekay7428 you cannot reverse engineer a living being. he appears as a drone. a drone can't lay eggs.

I had a feeling this is what you were taking about!

@@AlienTheory exactly correct

Don't they incubate living hosts because they need them for nutrients and the like, stuff you couldn't find in a synthetic AP?

No.

Movie isn't even out yet. The hype for covenant was real and we all know how that ended up.

@@usmanakhtar1845 yes its amazing, what is wrong with it?

Why? Open your mind up to the idea, I mean the original intent of the alien is that it is an unstoppable force of nature. You can't escape it, let alone kill it. That is the horror of alien.

@@asterix1912 The difference between a perfect organism and lazy writing is that a perfect organism is consistent. The biggest strength of the original trilogy is that each movie added a new feature to the alien in a way that made sense why it didn't appear in the earlier movies. It also didn't require many hoops to fit it all together into a single creature. Considering the alien has had many chances to regenerate until now but never did, it becomes harder to add it while making it consistent with all other depictions.

@@leandroteixeira33 disagree

The sequel was Aliens so what more do you want? I have a feeling that no matter what they make in this franchise and no matter how good it is, people like you will never be happy. This movie is rated R, it's an actual movie and not a show, and it's made by a director with a good track record for horror. Ideas nev3r sound as good on paper so why don't you wait until it's rel3ased before demonizing it?