It is. Even after 37 years and huge advances in special effects, this movie is pounding and visceral and tense and exciting and only occasionally slightly cheesy. Cameron packed a hell of a lot of awesome into it.
Buen comentario, es la mejor secuencia de acción de la película, todo el equipo élite de marines intenta salvar su vida, se ven totalmente sorprendidos y aterrados por los Aliens, emprenden la huída despavoridos, el sonido que acompaña la escena refleja el caos de manera impresionante.
@@theramplocalI just made my wife watch this movie like two weeks ago I'm 36 she's 38 and being black female she didn't like or watch sci-fi movies. She loved it. I knew she would.
Fact: Sergeant Apone played back Al Matthews was a legit marine served in the Vietnam war had thirteen combat awards and two purple hearts. During the filming of the movie he actually drilled the entire cast to act and think like marines.
Fantastic trivia that, the man was so good they made him twice. Like the other guy says I also got the "Real life soldier" vibe oozing off him, he's just got IT.
Other fact: Being a marine, he didnt like the other actors/actresses and stunt co-ordinators pointing the guns at him on the set. He was trained to take the gun and jam it down your throat if someone did that. They had to stop doing that for him because he showed no patience for them if they did.
Fun fact, the scream of the aliens dying was produced by the film crew going to the zoo, the crew walked past the elephant and peacock enclosures and they both screamed to produce the scream. Epic.
The first mistake was not taking Ripley's report seriously. They should have established a secure dust off site for the drop ship[those automatic guard guns would have secured the site], once the processor plant was determined to be where the ID's of the colonists were, only a three man scout team[a drone would have been better]should have gone in. Once the Marines had determined the colonists were all dead, they should have returned to the SULACO, informed the authorities and waited for reinforcements. Of course Gorman was a cocky tyro and Burke had his own nefarious plan.
@@Zephal42 Not an idiot, just inexperienced as well as unprepared. Probably by design, given Wey-Yu has such a hard on for getting their hands on xenos.
only JC can do it like this. If he ever decides to give it another whirl then we are in luck. He did say though that all those Alien vs predator movies ruined the franchise for him.
Suggests some damn terrifying things about the ecology these things evolved in. Not least that these critters weren't apex predators there, or at least for a long time evolutionarily speaking.
@@captainjeep-eep6180I remember seeing a comic on the xenos homeworld and that they were actually hunted by these bigger white aliens, there also being different breeds like the red xenos as well
It's actually a lot like Starship Troopers, in the sense that the marines are clearly trained and equipped to fight human targets on earth battlefields. These marines were bragging about their firepower, probably because most humans would flee from them. But the aliens (and bugs) don't fear death. Big guns and bad attitudes mean nothing to them. Starship Troopers is the more evil movie though, as the government knows they are fighting bugs, but still train the military to fight humanoid targets. No bug training whatsoever.
I don't think they fully explain it in the movies but the way they had it running it would appear to have some sort of motion tracking or automated aiming system. It would also explain why they asked them to be front so they can spot any movements. I think a lost opportunity though from the filmmakers where they could get into the workings of these.
The Starship Troopers book has this suit they wear and that suit is very powerful fighting thing. I think the best portrayal of it would be the Starcraft games. The movies is loosely based on the book but the Starship Troopers novel has always been a read for military officers as it is a very good book about duty and the sense of leadership rather than the satire the movie made it out to be about joining the military.@@We_Are_Borg_478
So Dietrich (who found the woman with the chestburster and flamed the baby alien) gets grabbed first and accidentally flames Frost, then Frost flips over the railing and plummets several flights after being lit on fire and dies. His ammo/grenade sack he dropped before he fell blows up and the explosion hurls Crowe against a wall and kills him. Then Wierzbowski gets grabbed as he screams, the Apone gets grabbed. These 3 are cocooned, then Ripley rams the cooling tower wall and in the fall back maneuver Drake is rear guard and he was killed by Alien acid /blood...Then they call for evac and an alien kills Spunkmeyer the co-pilot and Ferro the pilot, leaving only 8 of the original 16 alive: Burke and Bishop from the company, Ripley and Newt the survivors, Hudson and Vasquez the privates, and Hicks the Corporal, and LT Gorman.
Ever watch videos on the making? 😃They tested tons of firearms searching for the loudest guns with the brightest muzzleflash. Once they deteremined that the M1 Thompson and the MG42 were the best for the job they got to work modifying them into futuristic looking weapons. Firing them in confined spaces also help amplify the sound; but damn that had to be a lot of fun
@@SheeanMcGuire-u5v kinda like a guardsman version of a boltgun, it was always my favorite to use in saints row 3 or 4 I'm not sure right now which, the pulse rifle will always be iconic
My mum loved this movie from the first time seeing it at the movies in the 1980s.she carried on watching it once a month untill she passed away aged 87 from covid in 2021.im still watching it mum.❤❤
the idea could be good if it's done right because we're only told that they're complete bad asses a movie showing how good the Marines really are it would give more weight to the scene showing how terrifying the xenomorphs really are
Imo I think it would be a good decent film for a prequel if they showed what happened on lv426 with all the colonists there and how the aliens took over the place. Kinda how they did "the thing" prequel. Any opinions?
I was 11 at the theater and it was madness. No one was talking back to the screen, we were all riveted to the story overflowing with confusion, lost hope and violence.
@@thorntonmellon gotta say no on that one , because I remember the sounds from the speakers at the movie theatre was really loud and the screen was humongous , so no buddy lol
@@Ortiz8094I'm glad you enjoyed your theater experience. I prefer my home theater every time for every movie. Pause, rewind, unlimited food, no rude people (except for my wife :). Keep enjoying your theaters and I'll keep enjoying mine. Okay 'buddy'?
The whole thing was based on the American experience in Vietnam - arrogant political leaders who lied and ignored warning signs, inexperienced officers leading juiced up soldiers or Marines with misplaced faith in their technological advantages right into ambushes.
The thing that I always find so cool about this scene(s) is the music. Using trumpets(?) in that way, that was freaking great. It heightened the tension and make it ten more times melodramatic then any other music used in the movie. Sure, they could have use rock music, loud drumming or even synths, but this was spot on.
my favorite part of this movie was the fact that the xenomorphs were already there, merged into the structure of their hives, dormant and hiding in plain sight until any serious activity woke them up and their prey found themselves surrounded from all sides.
Movie Trivia: The actor playing Vasquez is the same lady that plays John Conners foster mom in Terminator 2 and she also plays the mother with the two kids on the bed in Titanic.
Also dressed inappropriately for her audition as she believed the script was about immigration, had to be painted to cover up her fair skin and freckles. And she wore brown contact lenses as well to play Latina.
When you send a team of soldiers deep into an unknown hostile territory with weapons that have no ammo in it, armed with only flame thrower & small cal weapons that equate to a .22LR weapon, you would (and should) know that the team is going to get toasted very soon no matter how "careful & tactical" they are. The LT should have abort the mission, recall all the troops back, and make a new plan for it. But if that happened, we will have no (great) movie to watch ;P
The trouble was that people didn't believe Ripley's stories about the xenomorph and how powerful/dangerous it was. Worse, they weren't expecting to find a whole HIVE of them. Up until this point, the only threat humanity had ever encountered was itself. The idea that there existed alien life that was more than a match for our technology and weaponry had just never occurred to the Marines/Corporations.
@@ftniceberg874 Yes, but their strength, speed, cunning and acid blood means that facing the Xenos on their home ground means they will almost certainly be more than a match for armed Marines, is what I'm getting at. If we were to use air power or tactical nukes to bombard them of course the Xenos are no match for us, but the aliens are also masters at infiltrating our structures and breeding rapidly to become a serious threat before we realize what's happening. (Especially in the Alien-verse, where the vast distances of space involved means that a colony can be completely overrun and infested because the nearest planet or system can even get a hint that something is wrong.)
Ironically all credibility Ripley asks from the Weyland-Yutani corp will end up turning against her and the humanity, as W-Y is eager to use xenomorphs as a bioweapon using marines as expendable means to get it.
@@ftniceberg874 Indeed. That and the Queens' intelligence. But that was enough. In the Alienverse, canonically the xenos DO manage to arrive on Earth in just a few facehugged victims. About 2-3 years later, Earth is COMPLETELY overrun and infested, and the last surviving humans wind up having to evacuate and flee Earth to their colonies. (A semi Deus Ex Machina plot device does manage to thin the xeno numbers back down to a level where the Colonial Marines and some of the Corporations are slowly starting to take Earth back however.)
I was looking at some of carl weathers work he did on predator and ended up here as well, so they even make movies this good anymore, I mean such great actors, just created the mood, aliens and predator are simply the best, I take my hat off to such season actors, many are no longer with us but will never be forgotten at least not by me
"I like to keep this for close encounters", probly my favorite line in the whole movie even tho ots before this scene and the eat this with the shotgun is one of my favorite alien kills of all time.
"DO SOMETHING!" Ripley becomes the all-time badass in that moment. She saves a lot of lives, including that of the lieutenant. If it wasn't for Ripley, they all would have died.
This scene really depicts the chaos of what it’s like when things go awry in a combat situation. It’s really well done from the people involved to those viewing what is happening to their squad
The best sci fi film ever made !!! .........Only ones even remotely close are Predator and Terminator..........but people mostly like those better ; Mostly ;P
I always felt they should not have included the tiny bit at 0:33 where the camera movement makes that piece of foreground material look like an alien approaching. They should have cut to it a half second later. It's confusing because the soldiers haven't actually seen the aliens just yet. Or maybe that's why they left it in!
@@WeskerLogan No, it was not. Apone is looking right in that direction and doesn't react. It's just a piece of the nest material that is closer to the camera so parallax makes it seem like it's moving, like the railing. But it's just the camera moving. The first alien seen in the same shot as one of the soldiers is when the camouflaged one grabs Dietrich and lifts her up, causing her to panic and fire her flamethrower, frying Frost. Frost then tumbles down the stairwell and, because he was carrying all the ammo, explodes.
It's building the suspense. You can see something moving. You know they're in trouble and it's gonna happen soon. It's perfect. Apone sees it and knows it's about to go down
We now understand that concept but you could argue humans wouldn't need colonies to propagate planets to begin with if we have technology on the level in the movie. Mining colonies maybe but not trying to give planets atmospheres where it's not even a scientific possibility for what? The atmosphere will just collapse because there's no supporting star system.
Given how well this still holds up 37 years later, it seems it would make perfect sense for movies to move back to practical effects (as much as possible within the needs of shots, at least). CGI is fine, but I understand that it's absurdly expensive and we always know it's CGI anyway. Great practical effects always look better than CGI, and they're cheaper. So why not, especially after multiple high-profile CGI heavy underperformers?
I totally agree with you and I've been saying it for years. I guess it's a case of time and money and that's not what the film industry is about these days. Apart from the odd blockbuster or old school film maker we ain't going to get them anymore. Just look at Disney churning out crap left right and centre. The big wigs at the top want fast turn over on projects. I also think too much of the budget goes on actors and not much left for practical effects puppets sets etc.
@@matthewmatthew9485 Also, prop-makers, puppeteers, set-designers and set-dressers, costumers, animal handlers, etc. are all unionized. They have specific rates and rules that the studios have to abide by. CG artists aren't, and the CGI is often farmed out to places outside of the US where the work ethic is in fact set at sweatshop. They can spend a minimum on that, instead of paying all the people needed to get practical effects completed. Unions are also part of why Disney only does 3D CG animation anymore, rather than hand-drawn 2D animation...it's cheaper, it's not unionized, and if they need to, they can farm the work out to countries that are even cheaper.
The legit terrifying thing about this scene is the Marines were looking at the aliens the whole time and didn't notice. They hide in plain sight. Yikes.
I watch this several times when it first came out and every time I watch it even now you begin to see how just effed up it was if you shoot those things you have a chance of dying too because of their acid blood so you dare not kill it I guess
The Aliens comics from Dark Horse had humans adopt a knees-and-head tactic - that is, shoot them in the kneecaps from a distance so they can't move and then shoot them in the head so they die. Both shots produce the minimum of blood splatter.
@@ftniceberg874 Thats why I am so glad there hasn't been a Jaws ramake. They would just make a big cgi shark like the Meg and they would show too mach of it. Turning the film from a horror flick into an action adventure
Someone edited out Gorman saying "who's firing goddammit!" after Vasquez says "let's rock." They weren't supposed to be firing because of the nuclear reactor.
They don’t make movies like this anymore. Done today the cast would be ridiculous and they would blame the Aliens on climate change, yes even if another planet.
