Aliexpress $280 120Ah 12V LiitoKala LiFePO4 Battery 

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I think they glue it like that to try to prevent Will from taking their battery apart and doing a review on it. lol

I like how you still show when things go wrong... it's genuine to do that.. keep it up.

I used my heat gun to soften the glue joint around the battery case. Came apart easily and was able to put back together.

I have LiitoKala batteries for about 3 years now. The batteries are 18650 and it is declared 3500mah but in fact it has 3000mah. I was very skeptical about these batteries but now they have proven to me that they are actually good quality and durable. After several years of use and charging up to 4.2V, (for e-cigarettes) their capacity dropped from 3000 to 2800, which is actually great.

If they sold them honestly at $280 for 100Ah, it would still be a good deal. They don't need to lie on the capacity.

Loving your battery test videos! Keep up the great work Will!

Brutal honesty... such a rare commodity these days. Thanks for keeping that promise, Will.

I will argue that it takes a decent kind of person to admit when theyve made a mistake. I dig it Will

Also you should probably get a rubber mat for your tables. Just thinking...

So glad to find your channel. I am learning SO much. You are "The Solar☀️ Whisperer!" Thank you Will.😊🙏☀️🌎

You are a great reviewer. Absolutely! Honest as well! Great! Thanks for this review and I just have to subscribe. I was resisting as I have way too many subscriptions, but these are top notch and solar is becoming a very serious interest of mine. I will never have your level of knowledge, so I will continue to learn from you as long as you are giving us this information!! Thank you from Canada!! Eh!

For the price, this still beats a lot of 100AH batteries. So if you ignore the 120AH label and just consider it a 100AH battery I could justify this. (note that it almost never gets below freezing in my area so cold temp sensor isn't that big a deal for me).

It would be interesting to see a 20 or more cycle test on those cheaper batteries to see how they compare to others.

Wow so coincidentally I bought 2 of that battery 1 month ago so they aren't here yet but I got them for $235 each. I suspected when buying them thru reading the comments on their ad that they would be B grade. But for $470 for both it was a great deal. I'm old already so I don't need a battery to last "decades". Haha Good review Will

I have a plastic tub that I use to set suspicious lead-acid batteries from automobiles in when charging them. I was thinking you should get a shallow plastic tray for charging and disassembly of cheap batteries.

You are so brave breaking these things down indoors... I have to do mine out on the slab due to my wife watching me burn a spot on out hardwood kitchen floor...

Excellent advise and info, as usual!! Thanks and keep up the good work! I’d love to see you test and compare some very small systems, like 40 or 50 watt panels with a controller/ charger built in that can be used as a trickle charger/maintainer and maybe a light in a shed with no power.

Great review Will! Stay safe!

You do great reviews! I’m glad your ok after that!

And this is the smallest 100ah battery in size on the market.

Good video. Atraight content, no fluff and bs. Great.

always impressed with your knowledge thank you for sharing :)

Dude you're awesome I love these videos!

I love these teardowns!

You should look into getting yourself a bridgeport type milling machine. Then you could use a slitting saw to more precisely cut open battery cases.

Always fun when surprises happen!

😲 WOW thank you for this review!!

Thanks for that, very informative as allways.

The battery market is pretty interesting. It's scary how many of these things are in houses of people who don't know how dangerous they can be.

Hey Will, love the videos, my question is this...Today you mentioned how hazardous the materials are, and with good cells they can last 10 years or more. What can be done to recycle used lithium ion batteries? Thanks again for all you do and keep the reviews coming.

We’d like to see reviews of silicate salt batteries, and how they compare to lifepo2 batteries, for applications such as off grid homes where you charge and discharge daily. Thanks and keep up the great work, please!

Tip for the next time when handling these batteries might be to do the cutting etc in a basin, that way you won't spoil your table. Or your table covered in plastic. Thanks for sharing.

Hi thank you for saving us time and money! Can you make a video with wind turbines of grid systems?i know you are doing solar and rv-boat systems all this time, but that would be great,cus you are good explaining everything and you are trustworthy 👍

I have a battery operated B&D cmm1200 mower that came with 2 12v 18AH lead acid batteries. Worked well at first, but then the next season the batteries really degraded. Long story short, I finally bought two 12v 20AH Ecoworthy LifePo4 batteries from amazon, and they are so much better!

Well done Will a true service to your followers. Comments absolutely spot on. I find Joe Public still puts faith in a black box (like you can mostly with a LAB). Dodgy suppliers dont like you asking questions like "whats in the box Barny?"

Good thing that wasn't Li-on... Wow! Great video. Thanks!

Decided to try one out and purchased a 150ah. Arrived yesterday, checked the voltage which was 13.2v so i charged it before doing a capacity test. Sadly only pulled 120ah and I had to stop the test as the voltage had dropped to 9v. It was always a gamble purchase.

Great job I'm so glad you did not get hurt

I really wanted a passing grade on this one but it looks like a no go for me. Plus I really want one with low temp protection. !:- )

Might pay to have a plastic low-walled container to do your deconstruction in from now on? Save your desk at least. Love the analysis and review, you are very fair minded, respectful and thorough af. Great content. Thank you.

You need to protect your work table whenever you open these things - so you limit the leakage to something you can quickly dispose of. Tyvek might be a good choice, and house wrap is sold in the home improvement stores.

Just love this channel!👍😀

Hi Many thanks for all your work on this channel. Will you soon evaluate the last 420Ah battery from AliExpress ?

You can use wire (guitar string) to get down the side where you have glue.

Another informative video thanks for sharing and saving everyone from buying junk batteries

I'm looking for some portable electrical outboard motor battery. Would be cool to see you try some of the portable solutions out to see how they hold up!

I'm surprised nobody said anything about the dimensions on these. Two of them fit perfect in a single milk crate. Bummer on the capacity, but they are what I wanted for my portable generator/trolling motor. This review came out a month after I ordered them. Thanks again for what you do Will its much appreciated. P.S. they are down to $230 now

I still use 12v Lead acid for my garden solar lights (100ah battery x 2 100watt panels). Just because it works no matter the weather/temps, -20 to 20 degrees. We do not all live in a sunny climate area all year round! 😁 👍

You need to do a run down of your top LiFePo batteries by the price point. You've done so many it's hard to keep track of them all!

You are not crazy! DO NOT risk your contribution to humanity much less your life for a vid. You are the man and one of few who will attempt to save this planet

Great review.

I have almost bought from this company lifepo4 cells. Thanks for stop me to do it

Thank you for your sacrifice. I'm going to see what you recommend for a boat set up.

Thanks for the video!! Maybe they're starting to manufacture them specifically for videos of you breaking into them :)

Compared to $950 for a 100ah BattleBorn, this is a pretty sweet deal… just wonder how many cycles it’ll last!

The solvents used in the newer LiFePO4 cells are not as hazardous as the solvents that used to be used. Heck brake parts cleaner is worse for you than the solvents that are used now and people use brake parts cleaner all the time without issue as long as good ventilation is provided. You still want to minimize or eliminate the breathing and bare skin handling of the solvents but as long as you treat it like a spill of just about any flammable solvent you will be fine. You don't need to replace your desk as the solvent will evaporate so just air out the room and wipe the desk down with soap and water and it will be fine. Treat it just like if you broke a fluorescent bulb, it's not a big deal, you just follow basic safety and cleanup procedures. It doesn't require extreme hazardous waste disposal just drain the power of the damaged cell or cells and store it in a vented container until you have enough cells to justify a battery recycling pickup and then place the leaking cell in a couple sealed bags and mark it as leaking cell and handoff to the recycler. The only time you need to deal with the cell being hazardous waste is if you need to ship it back for a warranty or something.

I always wondered when you were going to cut into a cell the way you hack into all those batteries with that multi tool :)

I’d like to see you do a review on the guy making caseless lithium batteries on amazon. “Lynx 100ah lithium”.

Great video, thanks

How about a Safety Video on how to deal with electrolyte spills and cleanup and other safety issues one may encounter, Cheers

Thank you so much for your videos they are very helpful. I'm getting ready to purchase a 200 amp hour plus 400 w solar system for my bus. Do you have any RV kits or companies you would suggest buying the solar panels controller and lithium batteries from? Thank you

So far, the only pre-made batteries that I REALLY like are Battleborns... but they cost too much. Just gonna keep building my own.

Hey Will, I own a fleet of ICE cars and I have converted all of them over to LiFePO4 with Headway 38120HP cells and will never go back to lead acid. I have a 25kg light commercial truck/van battery in my garage that I tested to fully empty and it held just 20Ah whereas the 16AH pack in my bigger-engined cars weighs just 2.8kg and starts the engines better. In short, lead acid isn't even good for that! :-D

The lowest temp where I live is 18⁰C hence low temp charging is not an issue. I want batteries with max capacity and low cost. Thanks for the review.

If you look on the LiitoKala Official Flagship Store, rather than the LiitoKala Official Store you may notice that is says 120Ah (10A). I doubt it will make that much difference though. Interestingly, the 100Ah version is in a larger case and weighs 10Kg compared to the 120Ah version's 11Kg so on paper it sounds like it might be a better choice.

I currently use lead acid but they are just car batteries that dropped enough CCA and would no longer start my wife's SUV consistently or batteries donated that still work pretty well. I will be switching to lithium as soon as I actually start buying batteries for my set up. lol

Liitokala is Finnish for Flying fish (Exocoetidae). A rather unusual branding for a Chinese company.

As Always....Great review! I wanted to say that a good lead acid battery will cost around 200 bucks now days. With that being said this battery still has more bang for the buck considering its physical size and ah. I guess the real test would be to see how long it would last and how many cycles. Thanks Will

The KiloVault Cold temp batteries in your description are discontinued, any other recommendations for winter campers?

I just bought one of these for my dad to use together with an UPS. I was looking for something cheap and not lead-acid. There was no review at the time so I just went with it. Mine was $240 with shipping so I have no regrets. I was only curious to see the build quality and I think it's decent for the price and OK if the capacity is at least 100 Ah and it will last some hundreds if not 1000 cycles it's more than OK for an UPS. Overall I'm quite happy with the purchase.

Maybe make a sacrificial cover for your bench that you only use for dissecting batteries like this. Perhaps getting a piece of seconds of solid surface material (e.g. Corian), or maybe a sheet of stainless steel.

Thanks for the content, I would say LitoKala is a nice brand for the price point if you can't afford the best, but still need this for something, 100A is not to bad and this can be replaced easily if it last for at least few years as LiIon cells might behave.

Hey brother I'm glad you do this s*** because I'm learning a lot from you

Sorry for the question... what are you use in order to test the battery and see it on the PC please ? Thanks for the video

I'm in the process of building a small system for my vehicle. Space is very limited, so I'm considering an SOK 12/100 battery due to its small footprint as well as its quality. Its a bit pricey, but like you said you get what you pay for.

I have a general question, I have a marine deep cycle and a regular starting battery. I’m currently thinking about putting them in parallel in my boat so I MAINLY can increase my RC amp hrs. Trying to stay on the water longer. Should I or can I? Just want to know what you suggest/think! Love ur videos!!!!!!

Can you test how long the lithium fire lasts. Could double as a good fire starter.

Hey Will. Maybe it is time to start using some nitrile gloves when doing the dismantlings. Thanks

I gotta ask... isn’t $280 for a 100 amp hour battery still really good?

I wouldn't mind having one of these batteries to power my MinKota trolling motor.

I’d like to see your thoughts and review on a Dakota Lithium battery

Thank you will, 👏

Would this be good for occasional camping use? Planning to use it for LED lights, charging my phone, camping fridge and a small fan. Will not be using it for anything with high current. Will most likely be charged between 2A (car cig lighter socket) to 30A (small solar).

I would like to see you test a chins 100ah battery I got one works great

Would it be okay to consider them as 100ah vs 120. For the money is it worth it? Thanks Will.

Even though it only hit 100ah that is a hell of a price at even that capacity

Can you still salvage the other three cells that were not damaged? Or are they glued together to the point that they cannot be safely separated?

They make great 18650 chargers!

Hey @DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse, great videos & reviews! Do you know if any solar generators and or portable compressor fridge/freezers have two-way USB-C power delivery/input? USB-C with its two-way 100-watt power delivery seems like such an elegant solution for power delivery/charging. If not are there reasons not to? Many thanks in advance.

Tight packing is defiantly a big no no. Even if you don't plan on rebuilding a premade lithium iron phosphate battery if say the BMS dies. (Which is strong possibility in a cheap battery) You could still sell/gift the dead battery to someone who's willing to open it up and repair it. So please either build your own or invest in a battery that can be opened if something goes wrong.

Man, you really pound on these batteries!! I get super afraid to even put a metallic tool into them, let alone pound on it. I had to cut that last one open with a dremel and it took me over an hour to get it open. Even then, I still ended up damaging it and had to pay to dispose of it unfortunately...

When they are on the Walmart shelf and the same price as lead acid I’ll buy one till then I appreciate the videos I can’t wait till all this stuff gets 10 times better and 10 times cheaper gonna be a game changer for my RV.

Hi Will; even if it is not as advertise I am looking for a 12v 100ah lifepo4 for a trolling motor for my kayak... this still should work fine right or do I need one that will specify deep cycle too or does not matter? Thanks for your videos, hope I get a response soon.

I have a question: those LiFePo4 Batteries all have a BMS right? Is it possible to directly charge them with a solar panel without a charge controller? And if yes, will it damage the BMS or the battery in long terms if you do so?

Oh major bummer. Thanks for sharing

When cutting the battery open, try using the 180 degree blade. It is much easier to control. Thanks for teaching this old dog new tricks. lol

LOL. I watched and saw your hacking away and i wondered have you ever cut or hit in to a cell 😆

Will, what is the make / model of the power supply that you use for your capacity tests?

Don't suppose you would ever order a Volthium lithium battery? I'm planning to buy a 24 volt 200 amp from them in February. Your opinion and break down would be epic. But thier expensive. Thanks for the new video.