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Alistair Begg: Doctrinal Accountability is Not Cancel Culture 

Bill Roach
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In this video, Dr. Bill Roach asks if Alistair Begg is just reaping the ill consequences of cancel culture. He also shows how it fits into a much larger dialectical movement to shift not only the evangelical world, but the entire world towards the full acceptance of Critical Queer Theory.

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@scottmac2032
@scottmac2032 8 месяцев назад
Thank you Bill. Thank you for taking the time & effort to put this together. You have a very clear understanding of this matter and I pray others find it just as clear. May Jesus Christ be praised!
@DrBillRoach
@DrBillRoach 8 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@Gashd820
@Gashd820 8 месяцев назад
Another great podcast. Thank you!
@impish22
@impish22 8 месяцев назад
thank you for being courageous. This is an important issue, and we've only touched the surface.
@toddstevens9667
@toddstevens9667 7 месяцев назад
Agreeing with just about every conservative evangelical is being courageous? Lol
@PattyBoyd-b2w
@PattyBoyd-b2w 8 месяцев назад
Interesting. I never thought about the contractual obligations involved with this.
@DrBillRoach
@DrBillRoach 8 месяцев назад
Many don’t realize that key point
@Diligent-dp7gi
@Diligent-dp7gi 8 месяцев назад
THANK YOU, Dr. Bill Roach You ARE Addressing THIS Issue Correctly & IN GOD'S TRUTH; as Revealed in HIS WORD. GOD'S BLESSINGS.
@nickelig23
@nickelig23 7 месяцев назад
Clarion call of truth. Well done!
@patgruzenski4024
@patgruzenski4024 8 месяцев назад
This is right on. I refuse to comply! The goal?- shut up and be nice.
@jonahdav9589
@jonahdav9589 7 месяцев назад
Paul told the Corinthians to remove the person who married his mother in law and Matthew 18: ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector." It is not canceling, it is love for God, love for the church, obedience to God's word. And all of this done in love of God, love of the church, and in hope the person(s) repent and are restored. If we do not follow commands from the Bible, we are not loving God, church, or the person.
@mikelyons2831
@mikelyons2831 7 месяцев назад
Interesting that so many have a problem with his homosexual wedding advice, but not his theology over the decades
@maryrd.c3459
@maryrd.c3459 7 месяцев назад
One of the best comments I’ve heard on this issue on Allistar Begg. Thank you and congratulations. Very clarifying. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@DrBillRoach
@DrBillRoach 7 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@kimschmidt2779
@kimschmidt2779 8 месяцев назад
Amen and the TRUTH will set you free! When a wedding ceremony is performed the Pastor who is performing the ceremony asks the question “if anyone who objects to this union speak now or forever hold your peace.” That says it all that’s the reason that Christians should not join in the a LGBTQ wedding ceremony as it is against GOD and his unchanging Word!
@ToastSoon4808
@ToastSoon4808 7 месяцев назад
Allister Begg did not attend the wedding and the grandmother did not object. So what is the point proven here?
@jesusislordoflordsamen
@jesusislordoflordsamen 8 месяцев назад
Begg made this whole thing worse by defending his stance through a sermon known as COMPASSION.
@paulan7218
@paulan7218 7 месяцев назад
I thought long and hard about this, and I truly believe that this is happening in Pastor Beggs family and that’s why he is being so obstinant and digging his heels in even though he knows he’s wrong
@conceptualclarity
@conceptualclarity 7 месяцев назад
​@@paulan7218 yes I think the grandma is is a sock puppet who doesn't exist
@WadeBrumett
@WadeBrumett 7 месяцев назад
It's happening in lots of families get a clue. Hiding from the problem, ignoring it won't make it go away. Lots of pain and broken hearts.
@loriloritony511
@loriloritony511 7 месяцев назад
My gut tells me Begg made up the story in order to divide and prove to the woke,well that he is woke.
@reginaburch6882
@reginaburch6882 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for this explanation. We must stand for Christ despite attempts to lead us off the path of righteousness.
@copernicansun744
@copernicansun744 8 месяцев назад
So well laid out. So many people unwittingly fall into this trap, as they don't want to be ungracious or 'un-Christian-like'. The enemy uses multiple avenues of attack to confuse the truth and lead people astray.
@robertperrotti5973
@robertperrotti5973 8 месяцев назад
Brilliant
@DrBillRoach
@DrBillRoach 7 месяцев назад
I'm glad you found it helpful.
@jameshughes2911
@jameshughes2911 8 месяцев назад
You've got to wonder about the unspoken presuppositions that ground our doctrine on the scriptures.
@kate60
@kate60 8 месяцев назад
LGBT rules by our reactions. We must stay calm and firm. No reaction is the best action. We are dealing with the reprobate nonfunctioning mind. Treat insane people with compassion. They need a rescue by Jesus Christ not affirmation by believers.
@kimschmidt2779
@kimschmidt2779 8 месяцев назад
Amen!,
@jlengete8929
@jlengete8929 7 месяцев назад
The only time when the church will not react or contend is when Christ raptures His church. Until then, we are to occupy, contend for the faith and stand by it, while at the same time showing the world the fruits of the holy spirit and of the truth that Christ, died for us, was buried and rose again after 3 days.
@ToastSoon4808
@ToastSoon4808 7 месяцев назад
....so why then do you not oppose them LGBT with more than mere words.
@Balboa-fi6si
@Balboa-fi6si 7 месяцев назад
It’s interesting how so many who support Begg’s ungodly advice also support female pastors (which Begg also has). Once you start down the slippery slope it’s hard to go back.
@ToastSoon4808
@ToastSoon4808 7 месяцев назад
Apart from this particular issue where else did he give and continue to give ungodly advise? Also is there not a place in the church for female pastors who do not preach but need th knowledge and training to deal with children, woman, etc. Surely woman may have issues they do not want to or cannot discuss with a man. Must they go without advise and assistance?
@Balboa-fi6si
@Balboa-fi6si 7 месяцев назад
@@ToastSoon4808 In a 2019 sermon Begg preached, he endorses the idea of a woman preaching or teaching the Sunday morning message in church (in other words, preaching/teaching to men). Begg has invited and permitted at least one woman to do this at his own church. This is unbiblical. Also in 2019, just a couple of months after the incident above, Begg announced that he would be speaking at Baylor University’s National Preaching Conference and sharing the stage with false teachers (and disgraceful female preachers) Beth Moore, Mary Hulst, Tony Evans and others.
@Balboa-fi6si
@Balboa-fi6si 7 месяцев назад
@@ToastSoon4808And thank you for proving my point, btw.
@ToastSoon4808
@ToastSoon4808 7 месяцев назад
@@Balboa-fi6si I asked you two questions to which you could only give two lame examples - one dating back 8 years.. Asking you questions do not prove your point. You yourself is not faultless, holy, beyond reproach or filled with wisdom. This particular issue is old already yet people keep on whining about it....do you really have nothing else to do?. Going to a meeting with "false teachers" present - show me one of the other outstanding American preachers who did not. Don't you think going is perhaps a way to counter and make people aware of the false teachings? What about preachers who have the guts to debate Islam, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses. How many times did you in public or open forum like this have something to say about Joel E, Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar.. Catholocism? One event where a female gave a talk or "sermon" and it is the sin of a lifetime that condems him to hell and proofs it is being done Ina regular basis - it says and proof nothing. Suggest follow the biblical advice and look for the forest in your own eyes before looking for the splinter in someone else's. You are not as tough or smart as you think bro and you stupid comment about me proofing your point is laughable.Did you listen and think about what pastors who actually agree with AB said. Guess not. Be that as it may - this issue is rather worn out, been debated to saturation point. So before you reply, which I will not read, I really don't care about your opinion now. So spare me.
@patgruzenski4024
@patgruzenski4024 8 месяцев назад
The sad thing is it distracts us from God’s Way.
@kkwok9
@kkwok9 5 месяцев назад
The Gospel of Salvation is foolishness to those dying. Who cares what the dead think of us. Our job is to share the Good News with them, not meet their approval.
@psalm1197
@psalm1197 8 месяцев назад
I’m very interested to know why you have adopted the “letters” that the “community” have chosen as opposed to just sticking with the word Homosexual, like we always used to….Thank you!
@DrBillRoach
@DrBillRoach 8 месяцев назад
Because the movement is much more than homosexuality. Critical Queer Theory seems to attack all binary concepts.
@reginaburch6882
@reginaburch6882 7 месяцев назад
Those letters include other types of immorality-/pedophilia & others
@ToastSoon4808
@ToastSoon4808 7 месяцев назад
It's also politically forced and probably some consession iro tax, etc. If so it just highlights the double standards - AB is thrown with stones and others agree to certain goodies in exchange for tax purposes.
@1689LBC
@1689LBC 7 месяцев назад
I agree with the analysis. My question is how consciously does Begg and others contribute to the dialectical arc?
@DrBillRoach
@DrBillRoach 7 месяцев назад
Conscious… who knows? In reality, the man moved the dialectic significantly because he was used for that end.
@robtruax7640
@robtruax7640 7 месяцев назад
You do a very detailed examination of how the Left is working to erode Christianity. You do such a great job of detailing how the Left works, you make a very startling argument against any supernatural power of the Bible and the Holy Spirit to protect Christians. How did Alistair and Ravi go astray despite decades of reading the Word of God? Well, you did a great job of explaining how the Maoists is greater than any supernatural power of the Bible and Holy Spirit. If there was supernatural power, you would not need to spend any time dissecting the Left’s strategy.
@dand4485
@dand4485 8 месяцев назад
I would assert the issue is more from Bible illiteracy. Hehe i so want to say and yes that my opinion :) And that is the root of the problem as joking or flippant as it might be...? Would assert i attend a Church body that might be a bit more conservative, traditional and solid as bodies of fellowships go, but all to often i'll quote bible verses without "Chapter Verse x ....." and simply live off the book, chapter and verse number and hear so many say "Well that is just your opinion..." So tired of arguing with others but honestly more a prayer request... If we turn and rely on the Bible: 2 Cor 6:14) Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? How can one go 'fellowship' at a guy union, won't call it marriage as that already as a strict definition of what it is... And for that matter think Augustine said it well... In essentials unity, non-essentials liberty but in all things Charity. While in Mr. Begg's case is he more in love with being divisive to prove a point, that for all matters is a rather sinful/rebellious point, or more in love with God, as in "In all things... Charity" And the Charity/Love is more to please God. And even worse God desires all Christians to be above reproach and "Avoid all appearances of evil..." Wonder Mr. Beggs position would be the same for Christians to avoid a love feast where it would be full of immorality... I mean, hey it is all in the spirit of love... How can "Love" be wrong... In the end hard to see decent pastor give the advice Mr. Begg has... Furthermore as i might assert many may look up to Mr. Begg as being a spiritual leader for a number, can't help thinking is his choice/leadership or whatever we might call it, a source to cause younger believers to stumble... I love asking people "What does Holy, mean?" Holy is for believers to be set apart and be pleasing to God. In the end with Mr. Begg endorsing gay marriage, why is it i'm thinking of Isa 5:20 (calling good evil and evil good..) Then again seeing stuff like this is so encouraging... Not that it is good an any way, just give me more confidence that what Christ said shows two things. First what He has said and revealed to us is coming true and i can put confidence in God's word, this give me more confidence God predicted it. Second if we see this happening, simply means we are that much closer to seeing Him and this life will be over with... Again sad to see , but sure all see why it is encouraging... Or in a nutshell... "KEEP YOUR EYES on JESUS", He shall be here sooner than we think... That is encouraging to me, and all the other true saints in Him 😍😍😍
@kimschmidt2779
@kimschmidt2779 8 месяцев назад
Amen perfectly stated! And the truth will set us free!
@dand4485
@dand4485 8 месяцев назад
@@kimschmidt2779 Amen TY Jesus The Way The TRUTH and The Life. For whom the Son sets free.... Is Free indeed 😎
@lmorter7867
@lmorter7867 7 месяцев назад
It's good that this issue has come up. The church needs to use discernment when it comes to what is right and what is wrong. Begg seems to be skating around the border of the social gospel that has infiltrated the church. It's a different gospel. Not good.
@motorTranz
@motorTranz 7 месяцев назад
" If men are not governed by God they will be ruled by tyrants.". William Penn "We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.". Benjamin Franklin
@mdhumphreys
@mdhumphreys 7 месяцев назад
If we follow the model that Jesus gave to us in Matthew 18 and what Paul wrote in I Corinthians and II Corinthians, we have our answer. Reconciliation is the whole point of this discussion. This must come from the Elders of Parkside to call Alister Begg to account. If he will not listen to them, then Alister should be put out of the church even if it looks bad. If Begg repents, then reconciliation and forgiveness are to take place. Cancel Culture is not forgiving, it is not loving and does not lead to reconciliation; it only leads to capitulation.
@ToastSoon4808
@ToastSoon4808 7 месяцев назад
With all due respect - it is absurd to suggest a pastor being thrown out of his own church which he built up over years and had a church build. Who gets the church and who leads if he is not allowed to enter. If they dont like it they can leave. But who knows - perhaps, unlike all the others who have now suddenly acquired biblical knowledge they actually accepted his explanation and/or forgiven him. How many of those who criticise him are from his congregation? For all of you who cant get over this and continue with your lives and dont find it your hearts to forgive him - are you not breaking one of the Lords commandments to forgive. Why dont you use your energy and take on some of the preachers like,Joel,E, Munro, Creflo Dollar (who repented from his incorrect teachings on tithing adding he wont apologise, people must just throw away all the stuff they have bought over time and buy his new book). He is deserving of a $60mill private jet, others can have two. How many of you work in offices with married gay men or women as partners as colleagues. What do you do about it - walked out, fired the person, refuse to associate. My guess is nothing is being done and this is where the whole hypocrisy issue comes in. So I would suggest look at the forest in your own eyes.
@mdhumphreys
@mdhumphreys 7 месяцев назад
@@ToastSoon4808 If you note what I said, it must come from the Elders in his own congregation. I never suggested he be thrown out, but this is definitely an issue that needs to be addressed. What happens if a gay or transgender couple approach Alister to marry them now? He has opened a door that has consequences of huge repercussions. Besides, Parkside was not built by Alister. The church belongs to Jesus Christ and Alister is to properly shepherd this church under the authority of Jesus Christ and His Word!
@cathysampson8359
@cathysampson8359 7 месяцев назад
“I am not permitted to let my love be so merciful as to tolerate and endure false doctrine. “ -Martin Luther There’s nothing new under the sun. If Pastor Begg would call us to use him as the measuring stick for what constitutes true compassion in such matters, then we’re apparently worshipping the wrong Savior. Jesus confronted the woman at the well and the adulteress woman with great compassion, but the fact is He DID confront them. He didn’t enter into their sin-he called them OUT of it. Ideas and counsel do have consequences; the fact that Pastor Begg rejects out of hand that he may have erred in his answer to the brokenhearted grandmother may cost even more. How shall he respond upon learning that grandma will then feel biblically justified to attend a baby shower, gift in hand? Christ died an excruciating death on the cross to save us from Hell itself: it was not an act of compassion.
@WadeBrumett
@WadeBrumett 7 месяцев назад
How is attending a wedding in protest entering into the grandkids sin?
@ToastSoon4808
@ToastSoon4808 7 месяцев назад
A few questions a. Did they, whoever they may be spoke to him, b. Is there not a guideline in the Bible that tells us how to handle a dispute with a brother - was this done and in particular by the pastor who delightfully posted the you tube that started this issue, c. Did the printers talk to him - or is it a consideration of money, d. Where are all those who critize him when it comes to the gay pastor that started a church, church of satan, the wealth movement, etc. In my opinion they did not stick to biblical guidelines either and played right into the hands of then left. Imagine excomunication of a pastor from his own church. And no I do not think he was right but I also donnt think the way the children went about this in the public media is acceptable. God forgives yet they insist he must apologise to them in order to get forgiveness.
@loriloritony511
@loriloritony511 7 месяцев назад
A) yes they did speak with him. He refused to acknowledge the error in judgement of his counsel.
@ToastSoon4808
@ToastSoon4808 7 месяцев назад
@@loriloritony511 thank you for the reply. He will not apologise as in his opinion he did not nothing wrong. There are pastors that agree with him on this one particular case - its not as if he is doing it continuesly. My "frustration" is that nobody -including other pastors- gave me an answer on point d. A young pastor even made a comment that AB's mind is gone - is he saying the man is going crazy or senile? And of course nobody offered an answer to my questions with regards to Joel E, Islam, Catholocism, etc. To suggest that he must be thrown out of the church is of course absurd....apart from it actually being his church and elders he appointed. If they chase him away what then? They ask for an apology and if he gives one it is critisized. I must tell you I am extremely disappointed on how this matter was handled. I live in South Africa and listen a lot to American pastors.....just to now learn they cant stick by their own teachings and forgive a fellow pastors....which in turn makes me somewhat suspicious about the motive. I was not aware that he has female pastors in his congregation. Personally, although not allowed to preach, they can do very valuable work - children, proper Sunday school, visit patients and surely there are matters where woman would prefer not to discuss it with a man. How will they get clear biblical advise then other than from a female pastor. Anyways AB has helped me a lot - things are rather difficult here. I will continue to follow him and avoid those who continue to critisize him about this one issue....for exactly the very same reason. They cannot forgive hence they themselves are breaking Biblical guidelines. Lord Jesus will,forgive him - who are the pastors and on what grounds do they 'override" the Lord's instruction to forgive?. But thats my story and again thanks for the reply. What they dont seem to realise is that there verry loud verbal comments are heard and confuse people. For instance if I work in an office or for a company that is managed by a gay man who got married to his partner am I doing the wrong thing, should I have walked out?. Ps: if you have not seen any and want a link to one of the pastor that agree he did the right thing under circumstances let me know and I will send you the link. God bless you, may the Lord and King Jesus Christ hold you in his hands and protect you and may the Holy Spirit fill you with his presence, give you wisdom and guide - all with the power and might that we cannot,understand or grasp.
@michaelkistner6286
@michaelkistner6286 7 месяцев назад
It's disingenuous to claim Alistair isn't being cancelled. He absolutely is. 'It's diffenrent in the church because we have an infallible authority.' Subsititue critical theory for the bible and you have exactly the rationale used by the woke mob. Ideological capture is when ideas become more real than the people who hold them. Such capture posits a summum bonem justifying inhumane behavior in the service of love, or whatever else sits at the top of the ideological hierarchy. None of this means a christian ought attend a gay/trans wedding. But it does mean we need to look carefully at our real motivations because the bible gives us a ready justification that can easily mask something darker. Self deception is among the greatest temptations any of us face. This is especially pernicious when we act in groups. If I want to see someone's real character I watch what happens when they are at the top of an asymmetry of power whether that be interacting with a server at a restaurant, another driver on the road, or a believer who has colored outside the lines.
@conceptualclarity
@conceptualclarity 7 месяцев назад
So then do we err and become canceled culture when we adopt the doctrine of scripture articulated by Jesus?
@jonahdav9589
@jonahdav9589 7 месяцев назад
Not a fan of the term canceling, but removing the sinning unrepentant brother/sister is God honoring, loving for the church, and loving for the person who will not repent. Paul told the Corinthians to remove the person who married his mother in law and Matthew 18: ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector." It is not canceling, it is love for God, love for the church, obedience to God's word. And all of this done in love of God, love of the church, and in hope the person(s) repent and are restored. If we do not follow commands from the Bible, we are not loving God, church, or the person.
@michaelkistner6286
@michaelkistner6286 7 месяцев назад
@@conceptualclarity We don't err. We practice cancel culture. The difference between what the church does and what the world does is the alleged active desire for reconciliation and restoration in the Church. Sadly I've seen little of that from believers in my experience. We basically tell folks to repent and let us know when you do. Instead of staying in contact and encouraging them, we forget they even exist. That's the real cancellation.
@michaelkistner6286
@michaelkistner6286 7 месяцев назад
@@jonahdav9589 All you say is true. So giving ill considered pastoral counsel is sin? If so every pastor in the world needs to repent and retract their advice publicly. I've both received and heard others being made dumber by idiotic "advice " given in the Lords name. So far none of them have repented. I'm sure they're just waiting until they figure out the right words to express their abject sorrow and shame....
@conceptualclarity
@conceptualclarity 7 месяцев назад
@@michaelkistner6286 he didn't simply give bad pastoral advice he encouraged and exhorted Christians to sin back in the autumn radio interview when he said we must do this and more to build bridges. He should not have even left open the door for Christians to go to gay marriages but in the radio interview he practically commanded it
@JonJaeden
@JonJaeden 8 месяцев назад
What if the grandmother never existed? What if there was no gay/trans grandson/granddaughter? No gay/trans wedding? No Bible gift?
@DrBillRoach
@DrBillRoach 7 месяцев назад
What if there were no hypotheticals in life? It might or might not be crazy.
@loriloritony511
@loriloritony511 7 месяцев назад
I have thought This all along. When you hear his first time when he gave the advice and then when he doubled down, a lot of inconsistencies in his story.
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