Indeed! Im 22 so I was only a child when this was released. Discovered Alkaline Trio through some friends only a few years ago and has been hooked ever since. Crimson is easily one of my all time faouvrite albums!
Bloody Spotify has the wrong version of this on Crimson. Don't get me wrong, I love the version off the OMA split, but the strings in this version take it up a level!
@@DonosaurusMex I don't know but it's not on Spotify either. I was listening to the album and was like this is not what was on the original album lol had to come to youtube to find the best version!
To make a seriously epic melody about the Manson murders is wild. There is a reason Alkaline Trio is my fav. There is a reason they are highly underrated. It takes intelligence and taste to be a fan.
Anyone else listen to this on Spotify and notice the subtle changes to that version compared to this version? I've listened to thing song and sang along to it many many times, and today I noticed that the spotify version had timing and tone differences. I wonder if the band actually changed it, or if some mandela effect type shit is going on. .
Just having this chat with a friend of mine. He had no idea what I was talking about :p Biggest difference is they changed the spoken bit, but this one also seems to have a lot more harmonies throughout the song
Jason Funke Yeah, they kinda fucked it up because they putted out the demo version of this song on Crimson. The demo version of Sadie is also included on the Remains complication.
Watching a History Channel special about the Manson Family right now, made me think of this song, it makes WAY more sense now. I knew what the song was about before but after you get an image of it all, it really puts it in perspective.
Holy fucking shit. This song has held such a special place in my heart for so damn long.. and this is the very first time I've heard this version. I am shook. This is so, so, so good. Thank you
@@robblinnbailey583 I had the album when it first came out. I just don't remember if I had downloaded it or got it on CD at the time. I clearly just don't remember this version, is all. I don't know WTF a "Zoomer" is. I'm 40.
This is the original version that came on the album. Apple music got rid of it for some reason. The demo version on Apple Music is not nearly as crisp and full as this version
I love the positive vibes posts on alkaline trio! The were a huge part of my teens and still love them into my 30s would love more.. i listen to matt and dans new stuff also but theres a nostalgic feeling to the og stuff…
You're on your own my little nightmare you cannot stay here It's far too bright for you If they attack you just lay there, Play dead dear, it's your only hope of pulling through. And seconds they seem like a lifetime. A dream, recurring, a dream that can't come true. And they'll pin it all on you After all you've been put through. "Sadie G. she's crazy, see?" That's what the white coats say. Now Ms. Susan A. is losing Every opportunity to put us all away. You're on your own my little nightmare. Your job is done here. You've scared them all to death. If they revive them just sit there. Just smile dear. Make them thankful for every breath. The sentence may seem like a lifetime, a scream, that curdling the blood they found on you. And your knives and clothing too. Charlie's broken .22 "Sadie G. she's crazy, see?" That's what the white coats say. Now Ms. Susan A. You're losing, Every opportunity. Well they found you and they shipped you up the river the same way that you've bound and gaged. You've shot and stab. You tried to set them free, but they've thrown away the keys. "I think that if I found a god to me that was so beautiful that I'd do anything for him. I'd do anything for god. Even murder, if I believed it was god, how could it not be right? Because he said it was. I have no remorse for the killer inside of me, I have no guilt in me" Whoa
It’s so weird, because this version is slightly different. I remember having the CD when I was younger and this version always sounded better than the only one available on streaming services
Yeah, it's obvious the writer knows the story backwards and foward. He takes it to a philosophic, poetic, and melodic level. And the details, both direct and simple: bloody clothes, knives, Charlie's broken .22; and complex, almost apologetic and mysterious: "for all they've put you through." ???? Sharon Tate or Susan Atkins? The. third person commentary for the chorus: "Sadie Mae, she's crazy, that's what the white coats say." Let's play real life doppelganger. Manson: any real life criminal turned preacher. Atkins: John Wilkes Booth, Sid Viscious. Watson: Jason, Michael Myers
I was named after this song, so I tell people I was named after sadie g and once I explain who she is they look scared and I smile in triumph and pride
03:10 "Watching her behaviour - bold and actressy in court, cute and mincing when making eyeplay with someone, I get the feeling that one day she might start screaming, and simply never stop."
@@Nick_Magliano Hope you're also doing ok buddy. I've checked out your channel. How in the world do you have so few views! Your drum covers are fucking amazing! From one trio coverer/fan to another, you rock! If you ever feel like a collab, hit me up :).
It is such a great part of this Songs at 3:15. 3 minutes and 15 seconds into the song. I finally hear and get what you mean through the Music. They have a really Good Overall Sounds. Matt Skiba Singing, I love the Guitars on the Entire Crimson Album. I used to listen to my brother's Alkaline Trio Compact Disc CD in a CD Player probably in the mid to late 90's. I love this Song So Deep. I would plug in headphones/Headset right into my CD Player and listen from the beginning Starting on Time to Waste. Crimson. It is a great CD and album some of their best Music was on CD 💿 at the Time. Sadie is a Classic Alkaline Trio Song for me. I think this song was from 2005 or a different year earlier on 2003 maybe.
For those who wanted to know the history of this song: Susan Denise Atkins (May 7, 1948 - September 24, 2009) was an American convicted murderer who was a member of Charles Manson's "Family". Manson's followers committed a series of nine murders at four locations in California, over a period of five weeks in the summer of 1969. Known within the Manson family as Sadie Mae Glutz or Sexy Sadie, Atkins was convicted for her participation in eight of these killings, including the most notorious, the Tate murders in 1969. She was sentenced to death, which was subsequently commuted to life imprisonment when the California Supreme Court invalidated all death sentences issued prior to 1972. Atkins was incarcerated until her death in 2009. At the time of her death, she was California's longest-serving female inmate,[1] long since surpassed by her fellow murderous Manson family members Leslie Van Houten and Patricia Krenwinkel.
That line is deep. Once you learn the details you're still trying to get at the "truth." The song writer gets into the zeitgist of it all. Their actions are all that matters. Alkaline Trio are good and direct with the implanted Sadie philosophy. What she really had in common with Manson was a desire for the apocalypse. Turns out she grew up right down the street from me. Two generations prior.
You're right. I try to do bass covers of some songs. I only try when I really like a song. First time I heard Smile like you mean it, I wanted to a cover. First time I heard this, I wanted to do the same.
So what you really mean is that The Killers' Smile Like You Mean It sounds like "Sadie" by Alkaline Trio? This was out before The Killer's track ... ;-D
I've been diagnosed with it. I just know I am not mentally there, just because a doctor tells me that, I don't know if i believe it or not. I do have anger issues, but learned to try to control them. I think it's just another reason for doctors to dope you up. I am who I am, I am not that anymore. Even if a doctor claims me to be that. I think we all have a little mental problems, but don't accept it. So believe what you want, I am not making any excuses for what i do anymore.
its not what they believe in that matters. its what you believe in. i mean these guys are just making a living and having fun with the music. no reason to freak out about their opinions
"The little Nightmare" held down Sharon Tate, stabbed her many times, what I don't get is how Sharon Tate and Tex Watson hung her and Jay Sebring from that rafter. Yeah they found rope burns on their wrists and neck. I think the "defendants" left out some details about what happened. Like torture..Another true fact: Some guy was driving from his girlfriend's house in the Hollywood Hills that night and saw them in their beat up green pukemobile, radio blaring, the whole murder crew laughing and yelling. Mission accomplished, right gang? The song "Sadie" in my mind captures the visceral experience of the actual act, the madness of this very pretty girl and her cohorts. Art meets reality, art feeds off this macabre event. From a safe distance of course. But this songwriter gets at the bloody heart of the situation. Frankenstein's monster (Watson) leads the black widow (Atkins) on orders from Rasputin (Manson). But Alkaline Trio hints, in my opinion, that these, uh, people didn't need Manson to do what they did. They needed someone to point the way. In the words of another song: "we were all just waiting for this moment to arrive."
This comments section has it all wrong. Matt and Derek aren't actually satanists, they hold membership cards as a joke so they can shock people with them. Matt is definitely agnostic.
To further expound, the church of satan doesn't actually worship satan. It's a political activist group that advocates the separation of church and state by creating the most antithetical juxtaposition to Christianity as possible. "Christians want this cross in the town square? Then let us have our statue of Baphomet!" It is meant to be flagrant and upsetting because to people who aren't Christian having the religion thrust into public places or policies is also flagrant and upsetting.
Neat! I always wondered why they mentioned Lake Michigan in one of their songs. I find that awesome, since I live like 45 minutes away from Laks Michigan. I think their location may also contribute to the darkness of their music, similar to The Birthday Massacre. The great lakes region is woodsy and mysterious, especially in the winter, with all the swamps and deciduous forests around. It likely provides an eerie inspiration that bands from California just don't experience.
Also the song Aurora (lol) and "could walk straight back home to chicago", "north side bars", "if assholes could fly this place would be busier than o'hare" and such. Lots of chicago references.
Well, she was a little more than "at fault." She stabbed, she smothered, she went when called upon to kill at least three times. I think she was most honest when bragging, right after the murders, when she was sure revolution was imminent. Did she deliver the killing blow? Does that matter so much? Brainwashed? In 1969 there were about 20 million hippies in America. Maybe 15 of them were psychotic killers. Saidie Mae G. was one of them.
he does make a valid point, if Matt Skiba wasn't a satanist he could be more than just someone who makes my favorite music, he could be an idol, someone to aspire to, someone that when you look at them you think about how awesome they are. It all sounds a bit stalker-ish but it makes you feel happy having someone you pretty much love so it is a shame that because of one thing he can't be that person.
