The issue I have with saliva testing, is that if you smoke marijuana the night before and you’re sober at work. The saliva test is up to 72 hours. It’s stil not an indication that your high in that moment. That’s like a breathalyzer, detecting alcohol that you drank two days ago.
While true it's still better than how they currently test. To bad they didn't run more test and raise the threshold from 4 ng to something higher therefore lowering the detection window. I would have thought they would have adjusted the threshold so if they tested 10 hours after use it would be negative since you would no longer be "impaired".
@@dpscott000 I agree, but during a work environment, I think legally, you can’t have any alcohol in your system at all. Not even .03. Because it means you’ve consumed alcohol within 12 hours of your shift. I’ve had employees show up hungover and reeked like booze for hours into their shift.
@@naturesbest7977I was in the oilfield for 10 years my supervisor was called out at night for an emergency, company man was being a dick and smelt alcohol on his breath called for testing and guy lost his job/ career of 20+ years
You can show up drunk everyday and that's cool with everyone, alcohol kills people daily. Weed very seldom causes someone to die. Goes to show how powerful the alcohol industry is
Personally feel the war on drugs has and always will be a failed endeavor, but if they want to continue their lost cause, they can channel resources towards legitimately dangerous drugs like fentanyl.
About f n time some progress still I believe it must be treated like alcohol. We still can't smoke after long days hard work just maybe Friday before the weekend or on vacation.
Companies should only test on Wednesday (assuming the work week's M-F) so that they're not nailing people who smoked over the weekend. You'd still possibly get screwed though if you smoked M/Tu night.
That depends, i have smoked 30minutes before plenty of saliva tests and i passed all of them even though i smoked 30minutes before, i found out how too, when testing saliva for marijuana the tests dont look for the marijuana metabolites the way it does with all other drugs, so if a employer wants an accurate Marijuana saliva reading they will have to give VERY specific instructions to the donor, in order to get a positive, the donor has to basically collect from the entire mouth BEFORE soaking it in saliva, rub the cheeks, teeth, gums, roof of the mouth and tongue, id say about 90-95% of employers dont do that, they just have you stick it your mouth to instantly start collecting saliva, while that works for all the other drugs it dont work that way with marijuana, ive also tested the theory and in my experiment what im saying rings true, ive only gotten a positive marijuana result when i rubbed the sponge through all of my mouth and even then i still got a few negatives, so marijuana just isnt easily detected unless you go to a clinic and take Oral Eze, that can go back on marijuana like pee but thats only because your saliva is being tested in a lab, not a rapid test
@EasyDOTPhysicals Hello Doctor, when saliva testing becomes available is it still going to be employer decision which test they allow? Any news making saliva testing either the only option or giving the employee the option? Thank you!
They'll likely still leave the hair testing option on the table. Many positions with larger companies who are self insured might want their employees squeaky clean. And then there are the insurance companies that may want to put in their two cents to incentivize companies to stick with the more strict testing methods.
Can you do a video on the difference between the 5 panel DOT test and the 10 panel hospital drug test? What they test for and what they don’t and maybe why ect. Thank you sir
The panel means the type of drugs are being tested… If it’s a 5 panel they are testing for 5 types of drugs,,, if it’s 10 panel they are testing for 10 types of drugs and so forth
The marijuana doctor I go to prescribes Marinol so that way if there's ever an issue with drug testing you only need the letter from the doctor stating that the Marinol will not affect your driving I do not think an mro can test the difference between real marijuana and synthetic THC
Is there any Labs getting close to certification? How long do you project saliva testing will be used by companies? It seems like every one smokes weed these days
So a DOT driver can get drunk all weekend and go drive an 18 wheeler but if some poor bastard who tokes a doober can be denied employment up to 3 months later? This country sucks a little harder each year…
Yep, they say ‘10 From Beer To Steer’. But heaven forbid if you smoked weed over your 36 reset. Dear gawd you dangerous fool, don’t deserve a good job.
Do you think they might remove THC violations that are currently on the clearinghouse? Hadn't used in 45 days before my test still got a violation. if they make this change they should remove past violations like mine
@@ike3981 if not they probably should because its bs. I wasn't even employed or driving a truck at the time I was going through school and only smoked weeks before class started. I was never anywhere close to being high while driving a truck but still going to have a harder time finding a job than felons. Make it make sense
Did the FDA ever get around to approving the oral fluid collection device? Last thing I read on it was as of March 18th 2024 they were still dragging their feet
@@jakaramoore523 I never had one online says 5 to 48 hours they should have it more like a breathalyzer type deal but I guess they don't have the technology yet the job im going for is hair follicle test still crazy
I read that when cannabis is moved to a schedule 3 it falls off the mandatory schedule one DOT drug testing. DOT does not test for schedule 3 currently. Can you confirm this.
Hey there, I have a question about the time the THC stays in the saliva. Some people say saliva can provide positive results for up to months but I just watched a video where they say it will only be detectable for up to 2-7 days... which one is true, please be specific. I'm trying to get around it by using mouth wash (Listerine), fatty foods and 3% peroxide. Thanks in advance
Question: What if you inhale and exhale thru your nose, being very careful to keep your mouth closed? Maybe even putting a substance (as yet unknown) in your mouth to block exhale.
Is the cut off the same for private employers or do they have a higher cut off sometime? I’ve heard 50 ng and now I am hearing 4 ng. It seems like if they wanted to know if they were using at work they would make the cut off higher (sensitivity of the test)
THC Is fat soluble, naturally marijuana will stay about a month. If ur skinny. But heavy is about 2 months tops, Salvia for heavy smoker is about 3 days or 4. Light is about a day or 2, to really clean ourself is to have fiber & healthy food. DRINK Alot water 2!! & Steamroom everyday, it cleans ur whole system. Even hair but hair is about 3 months but use steamroom everyday to shorten the time span. I been do this about 10 years on the job.
They just don’t want to get sued. If their employees crashes and fails a drug test then it will cause their company issues. No one saying marijuana is bad but it is illegal on federal level.
I heard you say "impaired" under the influence... What if an odd ball one gets "improved" after using??? I have a friend who races cars and karts and that sucker is faster when he's ""Impaired"" !!!
@@KamMitchell-f3hlol I smoked 23 hours before and kinda stopped smoking as much pot over the two-three days leading up too, after I took my last hoot at 3 I had a test lined up at 2:30 then brushed, waited 15 mins then listerine (didn’t even floss) didn’t brush until later that evening then woke up and made chicken, ate chicken then went to work and passed. Edit: oh yeah and of course brushed after so 3 mouth cleans and a big meal should do it.
So .. if you are a chronic user , smoking daily multiple times a day, then you stop , 3 or 4 days before a saliva swab test , that chronic cannabis user would test clean ? Is that correct ? But on a urine or blood test you would need weeks or maybe months to pass clean without using fake/synthetic pee .. this is usefull information if confirmed.
Chronic flower smoker here, had a swab test (unexpected) in job interview yesterday, last smoked flower the night before, had test about 2pm and passed I think the main thing is just making sure your mouth is clean
If the fmcsa switches to saliva testing,the company must follow federal drug testing guidelines and only use saliva testing. However,the company can implement a policy that prohibits anyone from using cannabis. That gives them the right t o send you for a urine test on top of the dot random.
Doc i didnt smoke for 3 months, then on may i started smoking little hit on a pipe daily (3-4 times a day less than 0.3 grams per day) on may 26 i stopped because drug testing and i been clean now for 10 days (June 6) maybe in one week or two i have the drug test, i train 3 times a week boxing for 1:30 hours im 5,8 and weight 185 pounds when will i become clean? also i drink a lot of water and eat healthy.
I haven’t smoked in nearly three months yet I’m still testing positive with the urine tests how long till I’m negative do u think ,I was a heavy smoker for nearly thirty years
From someone who both failed and passed a D test, you can slow it down a couple days before hand, and going 24 hours later after taking a hoot, as long as you brush and use mouthwash 3 times or more I guarantee you will be fine, also eat food before you go in and brush again that’s always the last stop before d test town.
I have to take a preemployment test and I'm hoping they do a saliva test. I will pass no problem because I don't use marijuana anymore. The issue I have is that they can use the built in excuse that the job is "safety sensitive" to make you take a urine test. Literally any job could be represented as safety sensitive. McDonald's worker. Yeah that's safety sensitive because hot stove. Maintenance yeah that's safety sensitive because tools. You walk dogs for a living? Yeah that's safety sensitive because traffic.... It's just a BS built in loophole that needs to be removed
@@EasyDOTPhysicals From what I researched it says that some construction jobs are safety sensitive. So which ones? Is maintenance classified as construction? I can't find any clear answers. I would assume factory workers around dangerous machinery and construction jobs where you operate heavy machinery and obviously public transportation jobs are safety sensitive. I have yet to see any literature that explicitly states which exact job titles are safety sensitive. It is frustrating. My assumption would be that they need to do a saliva test in California and not a urine test because urine tests don't even test for THC. If that is the case then there would be no problem. But if metabolites can stay in your urine for 20 years (slight exaggeration) but still valid because the time it takes to get rid of metabolites is so much vastly longer than the time frame you have to complete a drug test that it may as well be there forever because you can't get rid of the metabolites in 2 days then that's a problem. I sure hope you are right.
@@18wheeler76 maybe the rules are different for your d.o.t. because the place I go to sniffs it. My buddy failed because he used synthetic urine. The temp was good and the level was fine. The nurse said she couldn't smell it and they failed him.
@@EasyDOTPhysicalshey doc so I took one puff of vape thc and that was 13 days and I have a uirne drug test in 3 to 4 days I drank lot of water and fruit I’m 226 pounds and I promise it was only one and it was in my mouth for a second and I didn’t get high
@@EasyDOTPhysicals how’s it going doctor if i took 3 to 4 puffs of marijuana 2 months ago would that show up in a hair follicle test im not a smoker at all and i literally only inhaled 5 times max thanks much for any help
@ike3981 I'm being serious. There's how many unsolved cold cases in the country going back decades? It's almost certain the government will be taking DNA and they probably will use it in that way💁♂️
Don't worry so much about DNA. It's just a quick swab of the mouth and the results come in in around 15 minutes. Just a test to let them know if you are currently impaired.
This is a complete waste of time. Carriers will never preform a swab test for the industry. It’s going to be urine and hair and that’s that. Like many people have stated the insurance companies will be the determining factor here. That is how it is with everything and it will never change. So us discussing this is pointless. Look how it is now hair testing is not even an approved procedure from the FMCSA and yet here we are. You will always be able to drink the night before you get on duty and nothing will ever happen to you. This and being exempt from the Federal Labor Standards Act we will always be considered second class citizens. We will always be dictated on what we can and cannot do on our off time. It will never change there are way to many organizations like ATA that have politicians in their pockets and bank roll campaigns it will never change
This drug test doesn’t seem accurate at all if u can be around ppl smoking in a car and test positive if you are not smoking🤷🏾 why are we still testing for weed in 2024
