All About Shields - Super Smash Bros. Melee 

Hello Kira I have heard that you have quit melee and have left this channel all I have to say is thank you without you I wouldn't be winning all my locals without your tips and advice I am a fairly new melee player started in mid 2015 right when this channel was born. All I really have to say is thank you. You were a real big help to new melee and smash players in general you have made a huge impact on the smash community and I wish you a good life.

Heard ya quit Melee. We still love ya Kira. :)

I love you Kira and I hope your Journey all goes well :). Also you too CDK you're amazing.

4:23 If you're standing on a platform and a scary Marth is below you Does the make any one else laugh

Shield Pressure, Westballz. Out of shield, idk. Most top players are really good out of shield. Lol.

This vídeo hurt my feelings. (Yoshi player) =(

Shield Pressure would be WestBallz Best OOs movement depends on character. Example is peach has shit OOs options, But I think if its just spacies I would say Leff.

inb4 Disregard half of this video if you are playing Yoshi (e.g. getting shield poked, jumping OoS, etc.)

Just an observation, shield pokes happen when a hitbox touches a hurtbox but NOT that character's shield on the same frame. So, if you want to try to shield poke someone on purpose, you need to throw out a move that will touch ONLY their hurtbox and not their shield. If the move touches both, it will be considered shielded. The upair on MacD's head, for example, worked because the fox jumped in such a way that the upair's hitbox touched ONLY her head and not her shield. You can get often get easy shield pokes by doing rising late aerials at your opponent's feet when their on a platform, or falling late aerials at your opponents head, especially tall characters like marth. Also, if I'm not mistaken, there exists both ASDI and SDI versions of shield DI just like normal sdi, the latter being harder/riskier but can yield more distance and is thus more impactful on single hit moves.

ive been playing melee for over 4 years but this vid BLEW MY MIND! thanks for this !!

Axe has some insane shielddrops. He even popularised the method of tilting and then going thru the side of the stick to shield drop. Also he has very good up air oos since it is a 6 total frame move with pikachu.

Special note: The recoil on a projectile powershield is 0 but the recoil on a non-projectile powershield is the same as that of a lightshield. Bonus note: If you shield a projectile within the powershield window of a normal attack, but miss the powershield window of a projectile and then hold that shield up...the next non-projectile attack to hit you will be powershielded automatically. Also: Lightshields lose significantly less health over time.

Westballz for shield pressure, Leffen for OOS

Very interesting! I didn't know about buffering roll/jump and shield poking.

2:14 You don't have less shieldstun after a powershield ; your state of dropping shield becomes cancellable by any grounded action, therefore allowing things such as tilts to start frame 2 post shieldstun, but the "shieldstun" isn't reduced. From the wiki : (www.ssbwiki.com/Powershield#Chronological_frame_data) """1.2.3 As soon as GuardDamage [shieldstun] is over, the character will enter his indefinite Guard animation if he still holds down a shoulder button. If he doesn't keep L, R or Z pressed, he will enter the GuardOff animation. 1.2.3.1 If the character immediately transitioned from GuardDamage to GuardOff or didn't spend more than 3 frames in the Guard animation before dropping his shield, the possibility to cancel GuardOff will still be available. GuardOff has a total animation length of 15 frames and can be interrupted by any action that can be triggered with the buttons A, B, X, Y and Z as well as with the C-stick. Additionally, grabbing with (L∨R)∧A, jumping with ↑ and spot dodging with ↓ on the control stick are possible. Up tilt and down tilt are only possible by keeping them pressed from at least 4 frames before the start of the GuardOff animation - otherwise, the input will still count as a smash input and trigger jump or spot dodge.""" This aside, great video.

That "light shield gives more shield stun" probably explains some of my failed OOS options against falco. Ty for the info

kira i wish you the best. Your story on twitter made me tear up.

diggin' the chill ass music this time

This was good, my friend and I got confused a lot, but now we know what a shield poke is :)

link has best out shield cause he has zero lag from shielding, can use anything in his arsenal during that time... oh wait the thing in his hand doesnt count for this discussion???

great video in a while

I think Mango has some of the best non-conventional shield pressure like AC-bair fade back into f-smash. But multishine shield pressure definitely goes to Westballz. Plup has some of the most insane OOS options just in the way he utilizes Shield drops on platforms.

That slowed-down shine sound is aesthetic af.

thanks, this was very helpful

Nice video!

Westballz has the best shield pressure, no question. It's fucking terrifying seeing that guy hammering someone's shield.

honestly dude Oscar has some of the best shield pressure I've ever seen

Shield pressure? Westballz probably, but imo samus players like duck and hugs honestly do an amazing job with the tools they have, considering how much people shield vs. samus. Although duck goes for a lot safer stuff whereas HugS will usually grab you after you've been thoroughly C O N D I T I O N E D Best oos options are probably plup and hax$

Only thing that I would like to add here is that you can only achieve a powershield with a Digital Press/Input of L or R. You cannot powershield anything with an analog press unless you're using that Z-Powershielding technique which has yet to be explored by most/all players. Missing Kira. Also CDK, when do you plan on doing your How to Practice Fox Tech Skill Pt.2? I very much enjoyed Part 1 and have been anticipating Part 2 a lot.

RIP Kira I will miss u man :(

wes and sfat have great sheild pressure, OoS options would probably go to leffen or plup.

Axe and M2K. Their shield pressure is incredible.

I'd give pressure to West cuz blipping is good But I'd give the second question to Plup. He makes sure to always be on a platform, and he always shield drops attacks. Since he utilizes his out of shield game the most out of any player, I'd have to give it to him. He builds his playstyle around that shit. It's incredible.

really good

>ft. CDK PogChamp i love this man

I believe you are incorrect when saying you have less shield stun when powershielding. As far as I know, powershielding doesn't reduce shieldstun, it only allows you to act immediately; meaning, if you powershield and then jump out of shield, it's the same as if you normal shielded, other than the lack of shield reduction.

Utilizing shield di and light shielding in neutral I clutched out a 3 stock comeback again a local ICs player. Was super proud of that lol.

Mango best pressure, Plup best Oos movement!

Best ofs has to be Leffen so clean

I think leffen has great pressure out of powershielding, especially vs falco lasers

For Oos options: Plup For shield pressure: Westballz

no explanation on yoshi's shield? it has a lot of unique properties

I thought Mr. Game & Watch's poverty shield would have been brought up but I guess it's just more of an interesting note than an point worth making

Yo cdk what kind of mic do you use

goodbye, Kira. we'll miss you.

Anyway to buffer the biggest lightshield with Z without grabbing or doing an aerial?

Powershielding does not actually decrease shield stun. It simply allows you to skip the animation of dropping shield. Powershielding only decreases shieldstun in Smash 4.

Westballz or Armada for best shield pressure. Leffen or Druggedfox for best movement OOS

bawz has amazing pressure period

west or mango for shield pressure. west deletes shields, but he needs a good position to do so. mango's shield pressure game is often unsafe, but also incredibly mix up heavy, making it impossible to ever really hit him oos, as you never know when to. for movement, I would say plup/axe. both of their shield drop games are great, and both move nicely out of shield. Pikachu generally has better oos options than shiek, and axes use of them is phenomenal, so I would honestly give it to axe. plus axe's shield Di and angling is absolutely insane, especially with pikachu, whose shield sucks.

What about all of the special properties of Yoshi's shield? (or if you REALLY want to get in-depth, heart shielding)

Westballz has the best shield pressure and KJH has the best out of shield movement for top players however there's a guy in my local scene called Snivy102 who can perfectly shine oos as fox everytime lol

shield pressure would be leffen ice or sfat... maybe armada, westballz is ok too plup and leffen are great out of shield aswell

can you do a thing on spot dodges in the future video cdk talks about because I always get punished for my spot dodges even if I dodged a move

is CDK taking over this channel?

Is there a difference between shield grabbing with A and with Z?

@HyperSonic707 if you go back in their older stuff they do a short video on it

good shit

How do i lightshield but like actually use it in play and how do i know when to lightshield vs hard shield?? Hmm??

Can a light shield, shield you and your partner in teams?

I've been wondering this for a long time, back when smash bros melee was still only on gamecube was there any patches realized for it, did they ever change the way any of the players or moves in the game were executed and if so how do you get said patch?

Westballz has the best shield pressure, but Plup has the best shield movement because of his ability to shield drop like a god.

Could you please make a video on shield-drops? I see this technique being used more and more, but I can't seem to use it successfully in the situations where my shield is being hit. Thanks!

Anyone know the name of the bgm for the video?

Westballz for oos and shield pressure

I need a little help on the power shield

How do you tilt your shield?

6:06 Yo did Mango just walk up slowly and downsmash?

If I want to shield a Peach down smash, I wanna angle it down and towards her to make sure I don't get shield poked but I also want to shield di away so that all of her down smash hits won't hit me. Which one should I do? Is there a way to do both?

poor Kira rest in peace

I had no idea light shields and moving your shield existed, I've never seen Anyone do these moves

How you get to use the yellow or green shields without having more then 2 players playing? I never understood this. I can't figure it out in Ultimate either but you always see pro players do it in tournaments

you can powershield with the light shield.

great video, however I think you should have put in a note about yoshi's weird lightsheild mechanics

What frame does shield come out on and actually shield? I keep hearing it comes out frame 1 but it doesn't become big enough to protect you from anything until later

Is spot dodging really that bad? I've won a few matches with it

good video

Quick question, how many frames is it before you can act after releasing shield?

Plup for best OOS options as he is the undisputed master of shield drops and nair/spot dodge OOS

Okay that's a weird sound effect to play when you perfect shield? I've had this happen a couple times

Best shield pressure- WestBallz Best Oos movement- Leffen

I think Duck has some insane shield pressure. Sure westballz multi shines are cool, but eh.

what about if they grab??

Dumb question, but i see your shield gets smaller, but does it regenerate? Or only on your next stock?

Shield pressure: Westballz OOS: Armada

Is there any way to buffer a shield drop? I've seen many players do this, not as a shield slide off, they truly perform a shield drop after they get hit, idk if it's just practice, or they buffer the shield drop. Amsa does it very often.

How does shielding out of a dash work? As a Smash 4 player, Melee's mechanics for shielding out of a dash seem a little strange to me, since I don't seem to come to a complete stop out of a dash once I press the shield button, or I simply end up rolling. Am I supposed to cancel my dash with a crouch first?

Lightshielding has more stun then regular shielding? I thought it was just pushback. So if I hold the trigger all the way down but stopping before the click, would I experience slightly more shieldstun than if I had held it down all the way?

dont light shield take the same amount of time to die since they are bigger even though they take more shield damage? is it proportional

Westballz for both. Next best out of shield is leffen tho

Shield pressure: Westballz Out of shield: Hax or Leffen.

Best pressure: Duck Best out of shield: Leffen

Shield Pressure? Probably Westballz Out of Shield Movement? Maybe Leffen?

overrall confiseing on the light shield but good overall

no shield drop?

Smash is SO awesome! Best fighter EVER!

Everything cept < 3 shield

Could you guys do a short guide on acting out of powershield?

What frame do Shields come out?

Mang0 has best oos movement and shield pressure