All American Triple Loop Review | The Painfully Rough New for 2024 Coaster at Indiana Beach

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New for 2024 is a massive Schwarzkopf multi looper relocated from Mexico City after a horrible accident. The ride was refurbished and given new trains, opening 3 years later than planned. Despite Indiana Beach's best efforts, the ride is still not in great shape, and that became very apparent very fast. Let's dive into the problems with All American Triple Loop and what would make it better.
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@BillehBawb 15 дней назад

its almost comical that this coaster had an infamous deadly accident on it, and then when choosing new trains for it of course they decided to take them from mindbender, which ALSO had one of the most infamous deadly coaster accidents of all time

@wdgaminganddisneyhistory6024 15 дней назад

This ain't the Circle of Life, its the Circle of DEATH lol

@JonnyParker- 15 дней назад

Who wants to ride the coaster with the remnants of death? It should not be a thing .

@edbrown2998 15 дней назад

I guess Double Death Triple Loop would have been a slightly insensitive name

@C0astinG4mer 10 дней назад

Both of them similarly derailed as well. What a coincidence!

@SuperSuperPork 8 дней назад

this is an L comment. . . the Mindbender trains used now are not even close to those in the accident. . They are all now lead cars. . . The overhead restraints are a result of this as well and the main complaint. . .

15 дней назад

The fact that they made a Schwarzkopf rough is outstanding...

@Funfair2304 15 дней назад

Indiana Beach didn't do that, it was standing all day in the scorching hot mexico sun, with the track and supports being under more stress due to the ride being ran faster than normal, for years. That's gonna take a toll on any ride. Similar thing happened to Thriller/Texas Tornado when it ran in Six Flags decades ago.

@benbreeck3363 15 дней назад

Looks like they are going to need to give it a thorough retrack during the off-season if they don't plan too make it a one year wonder. Why didn't they test it with vibration dummies before opening it up to the public?

@crazycreeper399 15 дней назад

They also need new trains with vests. Costume trains but it would be a big upgrade

@-E42- 15 дней назад

I rode Thriller the week it opened in 1986 and a strange feeling in my neck for a week. Not all Schwarzkopf rides are smooth or "healthy" - they were always part of an aggressive fair circuit market that was prone to an unhealthy logic of "outbidding". Just at today's flat rides- who in their right mind could find anything but "torture" in those. But the original triple loop was kind of a sweet spot - super thrilling and thoroghly enjoyable. Too bad they cold not rescue it!

@stellaVista 14 дней назад

@@-E42- I rode Dreier Loop in its opening year in 1984 (Oktoberfest) and Thriller in 86 (Cranger Kirmes). Dreier was totall smooth with only a lapbar. The first drop was AMAZING! Thriller was a real beast though! I came off it and thought I had just been recruited for a NASA training program. In it´s first year they had just a lap-bar and a leather strip (like you sometimes find on Dodgem cars). But the ride attendents didn´t even advise you to wear it. The real problem with Thriller was the final loop, which was some strange loop/corkscrew hybrid. Your body would just SLAM sideways. They reprofiled this several times and then retrofitted those nasty accordeon restraints. I really think they should try to get therir hands on a regular Schwarzkopf train with shared axels. These coasters are designed to run 5-7 car trains and not those 3-front-car-trains. They have totally different dynamics! I would usually say: get rid of the shoulder bars, but seeing the footage here, I guess it would be quite dangerous if there was just a lapbar. What a mess!

@DJWezzyK 15 дней назад

Gerstlauer is actively involved in patching up Olympia Looping (Magnetic brakes, new ride software and PLC etc.), Alpina Bahn (New Trains, new set of brakes, new PLC and more) and Hollenblitz (Currently being worked on by Gerstlauer since it has been shut down by the safety regulator for reasons unknown). Why didn't they go with that option?

@Funfair2304 15 дней назад

Höllenblitz is already standing on the terrain of Crange/Herne, it's being built up and part of the track is already installed.

@0z3r0 15 дней назад

They also refurbished Psyke Underground at Walibi Belgium. And it got a new gerstlauer train with just lapbars.

@patrickstrahm05 15 дней назад

@@0z3r0That was Premier Rides actually

@0z3r0 15 дней назад

@@patrickstrahm05 Pretty sure it was Gerstlauer

@RayDLX 15 дней назад

Because Gerstlauer is expensive and Indiana Beach is broke.

@Idkwhattoputheretbh558 15 дней назад

This makes me so sad because I want nothing more than to see Indiana Beach prosper. I’m always rooting for smaller parks

@CoasterStudios 15 дней назад

100% agree. I was so optimistic for this ride and love supporting places like Indiana Beach. I even attended the grand reopening day after we all thought it was closing down! So it's a real bummer the ride isn't what we hoped

@davegriffin5988 14 дней назад

Isn't there a chance after retracking the ride will still be better

@stingray1irwin0 15 дней назад

So they took one coaster that killed people, and decided to "upgrade" it with trains from a ride that also killed people?!

@showbizrailproductions День назад

Basically, but theres one problem. Mindbender had different trains at the time of its accident, and changed trains shortly after, and All American Triple Loop's trains were Mindbenders redesigned trains, the original Mindbender trains had 4 cars (the very last one was reversed) but after the accident in 86, it had 3 cars with a redesign, and those are the same trains in Indiana Beach today. Kinda weirded out though..

@rct2nerd 15 дней назад

I'm surprised that they didn't contact Gerstlauer to make new trains for them. They have build trains for Sooperdooperlooper, but I imagine it would be more challenging to construct because All American Triple Loop is more intense.

@busfan9874 15 дней назад

I love sooperdooperlooper's trains

@SportsKing2000 15 дней назад

I'm from Chicago and I drove 2 1/2 hours to get here for nothing. Well, actually, I got a neck pain from this restraints. Taylor and Sarah, thank you for riding coasters for us so we don't have to experience the pain.

@homeboy_roy1570 15 дней назад

That all front cars train is fuckin cursed man

@iitzfizz 15 дней назад

I rode this ride back in the early 2000's when it was Magnum Force at Flamingo Land here in the UK

@thecoasterauthority 15 дней назад

How was it??

@Jondoe18702 15 дней назад

Me too but maybe a few years before, don’t recall much about it, don’t remember it being particularly rough, was rubbish compared to nemesis was my only memory and we much preferred the boomerang they had. Wasn’t a coaster enthusiast back then just a kid

@Jondoe18702 15 дней назад

This was in a similar era to peak lightwater valley and we’d not realise we were marathoning the ultimate, which was a fun and we had no idea how unique it was

@Jondoe18702 15 дней назад

Second drop into the Forest was good

@conorprochaska4728 15 дней назад

oopps should have saved mindbender instead.....

@ravenwing199 12 дней назад

Yeah well small Problem is. The Mall was built ontop of the Rollercoaster so they couldn't get it out.

@showbizrailproductions День назад

Atleast Mindbender, although with a mid reputation, had a smoother and funner ride experience than AATL. I believe people would've loved Mindbender to be salvaged more than whatever that coaster is.

@TsunamiCoaster 15 дней назад

Any Schwarzkopf train with lap bars is much better than a train with restraints. Triple Loop did not need the restraints, especially now that train speed is properly controlled.

@HeatherC1212 19 дней назад

This might be the first time I've ever seen a new roller coaster open up at a park not too far from me and yet I have ZERO interest in riding it thanks to the honest opinions from you and everyone else who was with you during your Indiana Beach trip. I hope they fix it somehow! =(

@masoncarlile125 15 дней назад

What sorcery is this...?

@HumanStateOfEmergency 15 дней назад

You need the credit sir.

@OffTheRailsPodcast 15 дней назад

I rode it once to say I did it. Also, the allure of it's deadly past was very adrenaline pumping

@OklahomaCoasterFan 13 дней назад

same here. I'll be in the area in a couple weeks, but I now have no interest at all in riding this. I will gladly not get that coaster credit, and I have never said that before. I'm always up for at least one ride to get the credit, but not with this one. The rest of the park is awesome though.

@abedgabriel-ei8rg 15 дней назад

Hey coaster studios,I’ve been watching your videos for a while and I gotta say your a big role model,when I get money I’m gonna buy a camera to film roller coasters and be like you,thank you for your great content 😊❤

@coastermania17 15 дней назад

It sounds like of the things you mentioned, getting rid of the shoulder restraints should be the first thing they try. It seems like it would be the easiest modification to make and even if it remains rough on the track, that would solve a good amount of the discomfort, but I haven't ridden it, so I can't say that with certainty

@ehayes4000 15 дней назад

I appreciate your honesty. I'm so used to Schwarzkopf's Shockwave being so smooth that yesterday I didn't hold myself tense during the midride section and bumped my head on the left side of the Silver Bullet car. That ride is only rough in one spot, so you forget about it until you hit it. I'll definitely be cautious of All American Triple Loop if I ever go to Indiana Beach.

@teddym2808 15 дней назад

Mike of Canobie Coaster gives it a 7 and I seem to have identical taste to him from his other reviews, so will trust that. He says to sit upright with back as straight as possible against seat and push shoulder pads as low as they will go. He didn't give it "only" a 7 because it's rough, he gave it a 7 because the coaster's intensity is way down from what it was previously, so had it been faster and more intense he would have rated it even higher. When it was Quimera in Mexico he rated it a 10. That had lap bar only 4 car trains though. Indiana Beach bought the train from Mindbender Galaxyland. I don't think it's their fault, I think any issues stem from the train in this case. By the way, you guys haven't ridden rough. Seriously you haven't. I've watched all your coaster videos since your channel first started. If you want to know what ROUGH was, try imagine the long gone HERCULES (old woodie) at Dorney Park as one of the roughest coasters in history, or SOB @ King's Island (Hercules was rougher). One of the most painful steel coasters I rode was Desperado in Nevada. In 1998 it wasn't too bad but in 2005 it was a disaster and you had to brace and protect your kidneys and ride very defensively. Magnum XL 200 is very smooth by comparison. Hercules gave me a prolapsed disc and I was bed bound in the hotel for 7 days after. That's what rough is. My friend had a migraine for 4 days and he's never had an issue on any other ride. He was vomiting and was constantly on meds to relieve it. I was rubbing Bengay into my lower back every two hours and taking anti inflammatory drugs and Vicodin the doctor prescribed, and was very lucky it healed quickly so my body never got "used" to the Vicodin, therefore I was instantly able to stop.. Sure, I was just unlucky for my disc to bulge to begin with, but years later I found out I have early degenerating disc disease and need to be very careful what I rode from then on. Point is, I'd have no qualms trying American Triple Loop when I visit IB again next year. :))

@g42_16 15 дней назад

i was at indiana beach for a day and an employee said they didnt open triple until noon-ish, so as soon as noon hit my sister and i went over to triple loop, like two people were in line. we just missed the first rotation so we waited in line. after only one go, the ride ops closed the coaster because of technical issues and said it would probably be about 20 min. we checked back every 30 ish min and the ride was closed literally all day :^

@GregPeden 15 дней назад

I lived in Alberta and rode Mindbender many times... the operations there were horrendous mostly because of how much time and brute force effort it took to prepare the restraints. Operators rightfully became tired having to wrestle them all day so they moved very slowly. Before it closed they'd be lucky to get 10 trains out in an hour. The restraints are over-designed because of Mindbender's accident in the 1980's. Those are not the original trains - in order to reassure the public new trains were provided with those triple restraints which included the addition of those horrible shoulder restraints. You'll also notice that the trains have double redundant wheel assemblies (each car has 4 sets by itself). This was done because the accident was caused by a wheel assembly falling off (which seems to be a common thing with Schwarzkopf). This made the cars longer and heavier, so the trains were reduced by one car to accommodate the changes.

@YPOC 15 дней назад

Oh that's why the train consists of 3 front cars...

@jumpydashgd4699 15 дней назад

it's strange to me the added those redundant restraints since the accident had nothing to do with a restraint failure

@supremefan 13 дней назад

@@jumpydashgd4699 Someone else said those were added so people couldn't raise their hands due to the sign they installed in the middle of one of the loops. So basically it's not needed at all, the manufacturer didn't add it.

@showbizrailproductions День назад

Adding to that statement, Mindbender's last car pre accident in 86 was reversed so riders can have a more challenged experience, they honestly should've somehow got Mindbender out instead of AATL.

@SpezyCoasters 15 дней назад

Fun fact from a native German: dreier looping can also be translated to threesome loop👍

@Thatshowicook 14 дней назад

A threesome on a loop might be hard to do

@LorenzoBorromeo-bb8ve 13 дней назад

Ayo?? 💀💀💀

@chasingcredits 15 дней назад

I was there the day before you were. Row 2, Car 1. My jaw was sore for a week from banging against those over the shoulder restraints. My son has sworn he will never ride it again. I might try it in the front row, if I make it back to Monticello.

@user-jl9lb7hl3g 14 дней назад

Don't ride it again. I was in front row front car and experienced debilitating neck pain. Granted I'm the type that love any and all coasters. I usually like to go around hands up and enjoying the ride. I have never hated a rollercoaster before.

@OklahomaCoasterFan 13 дней назад

@@user-jl9lb7hl3g It's so sad that this ride is a failure in its current form. I have been greatly anticipating getting on this ride for 4 years, and now, I have no interest in riding it even once for the credit.

@aleksthevoyager1260 15 дней назад

I actually loved this ride personally. I should add that this was my first Schwarzkopf ride

@plighting_engineerd 15 дней назад

I really hope they can fix the restraints - I've never seen reception for a new coaster as bad as this!

@TheKurtsPlaceChannel 15 дней назад

Great video. Thanks for posting this. Have a nice day.

@coastersnthings 15 дней назад

This is a coaster, that when looking at it, should be a top 3 coaster in the park that it's at. Then you ride it, and you realize it's the roughest ride in the park...

@coasterfreakrob 3 дня назад

Indiana Beach is a bucket list park for me. I really hope to get there one day. I was excited that they were putting in a Schwarzkopf coaster. However, I didn't realize it had the accordion restraints. I have only one experience with those and it was on Astroworld's Texas Tornado (currently completely defunct, I think, after being moved around a couple of times after Astroworld's closure). I rode it twice and both times those accordion restraints snapped further down due to the extreme positive G's in the first two loops and I spent the rest of the ride compressed into a very uncomfortable position with the restraints biting into my shoulders. The second time I was even riding defensively trying to prevent it from happening and it still happened, then we spent 20 minutes on the brake run in 100+ degree temps with Houston's humidity waiting for something that was going on with the train in the station. It was agonizing and I almost passed out from the heat and pain. I vowed to never ride a coaster with those restraints again, and if I ever do make it to Indiana Beach, All American Triple Loop will be a hard pass for me unless they've removed those accordion OTSRs.

@djblind1401 9 дней назад

I just rode it today 7/4, I rode it one in the front row. I didn’t think it was that rough. However…. The boarding process is HORRIBLE! From the snail slow ops to not being able to choose the row you want. As for the restraints,The stupid drop down harness thing NEEDS to go, that would help improve the ride so much.

@alexv3375 15 дней назад

As someone who missed his chance to ride it when it was still in the UK, I'm genuinely crushed to hear that it came out this badly. Hopefully they can fix it, though!

@blksoul26 8 дней назад

I laughed so loud at the rain rollback. 😳 that was hilarious

@maxhagenauer24 15 дней назад

The trauns were uncomfortable on Mindbender and thos ride is more compact, got relocated a bunch, and had an accident. I didn't expect it to be this bad but it makes sense.

@RayBcv1030 15 дней назад

I have a feeling they'll fix this ride. They just gotta re-track some of the rough points and give the restraints more padding.

@drdewott9154 15 дней назад

Honestly I think the train might be the issue, not because of the wheel assembly but the train assembly. The old traditional Schwarzkopf trains had the trailing cars hanging off the car preceeding it. That meant the wheels were spaced far apar and allows the cars to twist greatly without issue. Whereas the frankensteined mindbender trains feature several sets of axles close together. And that means the trains might not be able to take the snappy transitions, especially the sharply curved drops very well. Its not like these transitions are unique to Mindbender, lots of other Schwarzkopfs have them whether it be Olympia Looping, Alpina Bahn, Jetline (rip), and Thriller/Zonga (also rip). Plus Ive heard others mention that it was still smoother while in Mexico than at Indiana Beach. So it cant be the trackprofiling. On Mindbender the trains handling of the transitions may not have been an issue since that ride is larger and as such each element is more drawn out, but Triple loop by comparison is much more compact. So I think it might be putting excessive forces onto some of the wheel bogies, which get yanked into the rest of the vehicles. Might also be why the front seats of each are are smoother, since the rear seats are closer to the wheel bogies. I think there are 3 possible solutions for this. 1. Order new trains with the conventional setup, Gerstlauer would likely be willing to do so. 2. Extend the distance between each car in the train by extending the coupler. That way the wheels are spaced further apart, but it might cause additionals stress on said coupler. 3. Modify the trains restraints, namely the over the shoulder accordion so that the rough moments arent handled as badly.

@assemblyrequired7342 15 дней назад

Sounds like you earned your paycheck this session! Thanks for serving as test subjects, so we know to prioritize our (in my case-extremely limited) disposable income elsewhere! At the very least, the Triple Loop isn't beyond redemption, and I hope that Indiana Beach puts in the proper TLC. And if any coaster would ever benefit from shoulder straps over those huge chunks of plastic that they expect riders to wear over their shoulders, the Triple Loop would be it. It would be a pity if it doesn't receive the treatment it needs to live up to its full potential, especially now that Mindbender has since been now Mind-endered.

@ThomasBerezowski 15 дней назад

I feel like the old guy who says, " when I was a kid", but here goes it! When I was younger and riding what remained of the golden age of coasters in the seventies and a bit into the eighties, coasters were rough. It was the thrill. You weren't on a kids ride. It was the roller coaster! I get the over shoulder harness thing, but the comment on here about Hercules being the roughest ever makes me realize that through attrition, coaster riders have been spoiled and don't realize the "sport" of riding any more! If it isn't buttery smooth, folks hate it! Times have changed indeed, but a little pain is the medal you earn for going on the big kids rides! Lol. But when I see reviews on rides like thunder hawk at dorney being extremely rough, I think about it before the trim brakes were added. Not hating on anybody, but expectations have really changed!

@jetzenijeboer4854 10 дней назад

Your comment makes me feel old as well. Because i share a bit of these sentiments. When i was young, most of the bigger rollercoasters in the area where i live (the netherlands) , where vekoma's. I never experienced any aches or pains on those rides. Never. They where a bit shakey sometimes, but not in a very brutal way.

@TheBatwave 15 дней назад

I rode it as Magnum Force, Quimera and West Edmonton Mindbender. I rode Mindbender over 30 in Edmonton within a 2 day period. Quimera had the five point soft harnesses and lap bars. I literally rode Quimera 20 times in a row. It was really fantastic! That’s very disappointing to hear. But, I trust your judgment on coasters. And I trust your reviews based off your experience. And you reviews on coasters are very spot on. At least I rode it when it was good.

@MidcourseDiscourse 15 дней назад

It’s so tough, because it’s a wonderful ride aside from the restraints/two moments of neck smacking. Everyone says that without the shoulder restraints, riders would smack heads with one another, but I don’t think that’s the case. It was a well regarded ride in Mexico, operating only with lap bars.

@FunTownUS 15 дней назад

i swear when it was in mexico it had something that went over your shoulders. I remember hearing about it on some video on the ride

@christopherjunkins 15 дней назад

From my limited experience, Mexicans are not as well primed for glass smooth operation of any tracked ride as those from places like the USA.

@MidcourseDiscourse 15 дней назад

@@FunTownUS quick glancing at a photo of the trains, you’re right. It had some sort of softer shoulder straps, I’m not sure whether plastic or fabric, but they were not bulky or at neck height.

@martinbaumann6650 2 дня назад

It's a shame to see this iconic Coaster in that way. I first was on it about 1990 on a Bavarian fairground. The original trains were equipped with lap-bars only. The first drop was a little bit rude😊, but it was a real Schwarzkopf Rollercoaster, smooth, thrilling and a joy to ride on.

@Pix71744 15 дней назад

this would be a perfect ride for a coaster parody

@austintayloradt 4 дня назад

I went to Indiana Beach for the first time last year, hoping that Triple Loop would be open. Now I don't mind as much that I missed it; still need to get back there someday to ride Lost Coaster though...I hope they can do something to fix Triple Loop and still get some good out of the investment, too bad to see this happen.

@TheSultryBadger 14 дней назад

Rode this several times when it was at Flamingo Land in the UK and really quite enjoyed it.

@CarolinaCycloneJames 15 дней назад

Im not surprised its rough. Its been relocated so many times. That takes a toll on the track. Its been over ran and over sped by the previous owners who also did little to no maintenance on it. Im all for not getting rid of historic or old coasters. But i believe its time for triple loop to be scrapped. Unfortunately it just wasnt taken care of in tbe past well enough for it to be refurbished properly. Especially not from a park that can afford such an expensive overhaul it needs

@RedPilledDan 15 дней назад

I’m imagining that one super rough, jack hammering, super jarring dive turn on Riddler Mindbender at SFOG except for an entire ride. Yikes.

@OklahomaCoasterFan 13 дней назад

At least Mindbender has only seatbelts & lap bars, so that jackhammering moment doesn't cause any neck or head banging. But yeah, it does sound like Triple Loop has several of those moments, plus bad restraints.

@OklahomaCoasterFan 13 дней назад

I have thoroughly enjoyed Indiana Beach both times I've visited, and I was very much hoping that this ride would be a success. It's so sad to see that it hasn't been. I hope it can be made more tolerable. Having ridden Frontier City's Silver Bullet so many times, I can say that there is a violent lateral jolt leading into the loop, but because we only have seatbelts & lap bars, it's no problem at all. Head/neck banging restraints can totally ruin some rides. After the reports of Triple Loop, I honestly don't want to ride it, not even once for the credit. Even hearing the advice of how to ride it, I don't trust that it won't still cause me problems. I was planning to ride it in a couple weeks, but I now probably won't.

@IntaminFanGRLPowerCoasters 15 дней назад

You should make an enthusiasts survival guide on this!!

@eastonchristensen3601 15 дней назад

Speaking of roughness, I recently was at sea world Orlando and all mako, kraken, and manta had a significantly worse rattle than I remember, and I noticed the wheels were completely worn out and it was riding bare metal from the wheels to the track, do you think this had anything to do with it?

@chongarcia977 6 дней назад

It looks good when you see it. I rode it (same model)@ Six Flags Astroworld in Houston Tx..There called Taz tx tornado.I rode it in my early 20s and it beat me up..Man as I was walking across the street from my motel it looked amazing but it was a one timer. .

@PolarPinup 6 дней назад

I love coasters, particularly older examples and am typically absolutely down for rougher ride experiences, but this is where I draw the line. Someone is going to get seriously hurt (again) on this thing.

@crazycreeper399 15 дней назад

It needs new trains. Brand new trains

@jonny-b4954 15 дней назад

Honestly, I think it needs those 2 track sections reworked before. The trains could be tolerable, if it didn't have those jolts in the profiling

@crazycreeper399 15 дней назад

@@jonny-b4954 I think that new trains with vests would help a lot

@crazycreeper399 15 дней назад

And probably be more lighter than the old ones. And have more riders per train

@jonny-b4954 15 дней назад

@@crazycreeper399 Yeah, but regardless those bumps in the profiling are undoubtedly going to cause whiplash eventually with some unknowing guest. Vest or not. It definitely needs new trains, which would give better capacity due to less loading time. But still, your main issue is head banging due to rough track profiling. It's also probably hella cheaper. $25-50k per piece of track, same amount for installation etc. Instead of $500k for a new train. Or more, due to being a custom job.

@crazycreeper399 15 дней назад

@@jonny-b4954 yea but still it would help make it somewhat more comfortable for riders

@el.cecilio 12 дней назад

Both times I rode it back in La Feria in Mexico City it was pretty rough but tbh it was very enjoyable and SUPER intense, even though they didn't give the ride the mantainance it needed...

@highoctaneadventure 15 дней назад

Three rides is impressive! :) I lasted two rides and one would have been enough. The super loud lift motor flagged that it would be a unique experience lol.

@planetcoasterboycj7274 9 дней назад

Imagine the potential this coaster would have if RMC got their hands on it. First ever RMC Conversion of a Steel Coaster. Twisted Triple Loop??

@Jason_Maier 15 дней назад

To be fair, the ride is 40 years old: Started out on the German Fair Circuit (84-96), then moved to Sunway Lagoon in Malaysia (97-99), Flamingo Land in England (00-05), La Fiera Chapultepec de Magico in Mexico City (07-19), than sat idle for nearly 5 years. All those times being taken apart/put back together/being transported take a toll on the track. Plus it's using the old trains from Galaxyland's Mindbender. edit: I just like the shot at 0:30 showing houses in the background

@AlexAfferMetallica 15 дней назад

Rode it the second week it was open, only got 1 ride on Saturday before it broke down for the rest of the weekend. My jaw was hurting when I walked off, such a painful experience. Hope they can do something to make it run better because its an awesome coaster, just runs extremely rough

@rixrobin 15 дней назад

Just watched canobie coasters review and apparently there is a certain way to position the restraints so its not as painful and if done that way its a decent ride. Still want to check the ride out. Indiana beach was the biggest suprise on my road trip last year and one of my favorite parks for its atmosphere so its a shame it did not live up to expectations.

@FlashFoxBox 15 дней назад

This is (was) a traveling coaster. The sections are bolted together and not welded. of course its rough as an SLC. Even while it was traveling during the Barth era, it was kinda rough. For example: Nessi in Hansa-Park germany is smooth as butter compared to Schwur des Kärnan. And Nessi is older then myself. Maybe you could RMC this thing xDD If you convince them to do vertical loopings.

@Zachinthus09 7 дней назад

I grew up an hour from Indiana Beach. I'm glad it reopened and wish it success. But, I've only been there once. Because it's that bad. The response of this coaster isn't surprising.

@LLLLLLLLLucas 15 дней назад

Too many have died on old schwatzkopf coasters for me to ever ride one.

@karahb9705 14 дней назад

My daughters went to Indiana Beach last week and they were so excited to ride this. They hated it and said it was really painful. None of them want to go on it again when they go back this weekend.

@markcoaster121 4 дня назад

A travelling one (with five loops) comes to London Winter Wonderland most years and I thought that one was really smooth

@billchief397 15 дней назад

The gong coaster!....wheee gong gong gong...ouch!!! And put a photo of chuck barris smiling lol

@patrickstrahm05 15 дней назад

Still want the credit though, but im not really itching to get back to Indiana Beach. But ive had a season pass the last four years and I'm in no rush. The park has had problems getting this coster open the last 3 years.

@Happymali10 11 дней назад

Would be cool to hear your opinion on "Nessie Superrollercoaster" at Germany's Hansa Park. It's a 1980 custom Schwarzkopf Looper that was Germany's first stationary coaster with a vertical loop. They recently refurbished it and gave it a new station, but the trains and track are original.

@djavatar68 15 дней назад

Remove those terrible hard accordion restraints and it should be fine. The ride was not meant to have them. I think the Mindbender trains were a quick solution to the problem. I am still upset Mindbender was not saved.

@showbizrailproductions День назад

Honestly, they should've saved Mindbender than whatever it was called in MC. Atleast Mindbender actually remodeled their trains after the accident...

@busfan9874 15 дней назад

1:19 so that's the magnum force coaster you were talking about in the red force parody

@aleksthevoyager1260 15 дней назад

I want to say also they’ve kept this ride closed longer in the mornings and have been doing a LOT of work on the supports. There’s cranes and welders there all of the time

@Kumba830 13 дней назад

Any idea what they are specifically working on with the supports?

@TheMasterCook0000 15 дней назад

man i thought this would be better i might wanna go next year

@myles8328 15 дней назад

Was the previous derailment caused by anything similar to that on Mindbender many years ago?

@robfassi3297 15 дней назад

Yes very similar incident

@rachelandzach 13 дней назад

15 seconds into the ride I said “nope, never again in my entire life” it’s so rough but at least it looks really cool ?? Indiana Beach is still a great little park though

@UltraBoogie 10 дней назад

One thing that wasn't mentioned. It's not uncommon for a once smooth coater to be come rough and uncomfortable when its taken apart and moved. New base points and even the ground it's placed on can change it's charateristics. It's up to the new owner/operator to be aware of this. It's a shame that this one is so uncomfortable. I was stoked to see one of these in the states. I rode this coaster when i was in Hamburg. It was super intense but not uncomfortable. It's still one of the best portable coasters made when it's done right. Hope they can get it sorted out.

@jamesr.b.kieliszewski6731 14 дней назад

I got lucky, and was placed in the front row. Had an enjoyable fun ride, wasn’t too bad. Than again, I was not in the back back

@josephschiavo644 12 дней назад

those transitions remind me of some of the ones on SOB!

@dropthrill 21 час назад

It’s so painful. If it had that old lap bar trains it would be fun.

@kaitlyntaylor2411 День назад

It was so bad. I’m glad I left the park right after because I had a headache that lasted hours. Seriously felt like a concussion…

@RealJustinCrow 15 дней назад

I obviously missed something over the last few years, why wasn't taking Mine bender as a whole not an option? Buggered Mexican track with Canadian trains, why not just take the whole Canadian?

@iceblade019 15 дней назад

Mindbender was built into the structure of the building

@BrendanCorwin1030 14 дней назад

sounds like this should be the all American triple loop survival guide

@thisrollercoasterlife498 14 дней назад

7:36. Hello Coaster Dash!

@ryanleeuwis1602 15 дней назад

Sp funny that both coasters from mexico (this one and the wild mouse) have a lot of problems. The wild mous is now located in the nerherlands and had a 2 years delayed opening.

@SilverinWolvesScarletForestSno 8 дней назад

I love these old Schwarz coasters.

@SwitchbackSylveon 14 дней назад

My nickname for this ride is; All-German-Malaysian-British-Mexican-American Triple Loop, funny giving a nickname to a ride I'll likely not get to ride anytime soon when most of the rides I've given nicknames to are ones I've been on

@rachelandzach 13 дней назад

I hope they can get this fixed! It’s a great park!

@peterhelmer6252 15 дней назад

They should hire Rmc to redo Hoosier Huricane and fix Triple loop as a package deal!

@JohnDoe-wb7fc 15 дней назад

rmcing the hoosier hurricane would be bad. it's entirely flat track and long sections. it'd be hard to do something cool with that ride.

@Armndre 13 часов назад

That model… give a big painful situation at “La Feria, Chapultepec” Mexico.

@alphawinnergx9127 15 дней назад

Has anyone ridden both Triple Loop and King ? King is a portable Soquet coaster that travels on the french fair circuit. They both have similar layouts, the worst part being that King doesn't even have loops. However, they share the same problem, OTS restraints on a track full of bad profiling and transitions, resulting in serious headbanging. I've only ridden King, and I really hated it despite its potential.

@user-tk9jb1wu2w 15 дней назад

I rode it in the early 2000s at flamingo land as Magnum Force it was alright but at the time they had that they had a Schwarzkopf launch one. I didn’t ride magnum that much but it was alright for what it was. It was easy to tell it’s meant to travel than be a permanent coaster. It used to be a white and red and because of weather here in it always looked dirty. But for the time being simpler back then it was a good coaster probably won’t be that good now but when I was younger it was great.

@Eternyl_bliss-nj9se 15 дней назад

I just came back from Indiana Beach and rode this 8 times. Seems to vary per ride - front seat seemed to be better but I think the restraint height could be at fault. If they made it 50% softer it would help. The very back seat was brutal! The ride is super intense - that first drop is crazy. Seems like some of the track the train is making a lot of racket - like its fighting the track is that normal? You can sit whereever you like just tell them you want to wait for 1st seat although station is an odd design like its not big enough to queue in line. I did like the intensity of it just hope they can make it smoother. Odd they designed it so you can't raise your arms. If you are claustaphobic this isn't your ride... once in you are trapped inside. I think different custom cars may be the answer also. The guy in blue shirt and glasses was funny though wish other ride operaters were like that. (if he is reading this I was the one that told you they missed out on caling it 'Death Trap' due to the history) :)

@xb14d3x 15 дней назад

3 vs 5 cars per train, which Magnum Force and Quimera had. If I had to guess I think this additional weight caused Quimera to be faster in general and more positive g's around the drops? 🤷‍♂

@dizzel4323 14 дней назад

I ride Scorpion at BGT all the time and its still decently smooth and intense, and it only has a lapbar

@Themeparks_acrosstheworld 15 дней назад

I might be going to this park on a USA road trip next year and after hearing reviews im not sure im gonna enjoy it

@MidwestBoom 15 дней назад

This park is awesome. If you keep your expectation low and are looking for an old school. Throwback how parks used to be. Just don't expect any great coaster that are gonna knock your socks off. Even though coaster of lost superstition is amazing And Corn ball Express is good.

@AleksiDraws 14 дней назад

As soon as I saw the mindbender trains I knew that was the problem. Those restraints were awful. I loved Mindbender but it wasn’t a comfortable ride at all, or one you could reride over and over. Twice a day if the first ride didn’t give you a gnarly headache lol. I imagine this is significantly worse on a tighter layout. I think it’s worth a discussion that the accordion restraints were a response to Mindbender’s fatal accident, and with Wuimeras history, maybe the general though process about the excess restraints was appearance of safety? Ironically, I can see that being the source of an injury down the line.

@Noodlemonkey7 14 дней назад

I’m glad I’m a Super ride enthusiast!!! 6:28

@ThatLexPlays 14 дней назад

I'm surprised that one of the major manufacturers haven't taken over the Schwarzkopf coasters to make the experience more modern. I feel like there's a way to maintain the legacy of these coasters while making them modern and smoother.

@CoasterStudios 14 дней назад

Gerstlauer’s facilities are located IN the old Schwarzkopf building. They do a lot of maintenance and part replacement for those old rides.

@Leblribrbrrq 15 дней назад

I was wondering about the rollback protection …

@missy4054 15 дней назад

The Mellors group have the ex-looping star coaster from Parko Paliatso Luna Park in Cyprus and now it is operating at Kuwait Winter Wonderland in Kuwait

@grindcavecinema 9 дней назад

This is sad to hear. I rode this coaster when it was operating in the UK, it was intense but rather smooth.

@coweyandfroggey2826 15 дней назад

Wow I’ve never heard of a coaster where you want to be stapled

@coasterkramer 15 дней назад

Those trains remind me of old viper, trains, great adventure by Togo they were the worst train ever

@YYYValentine 15 дней назад

No antirollback? How is this even allowed? :o

@staringcorgi6475 15 дней назад

In the uk back in the day there was a horrible accident that killed people because of no anti rollbacks

@ehayes4000 15 дней назад

@@staringcorgi6475 That's horrible. Unfortunately even with anti-rollbacks there was still an accident on the Wildcat coaster in Tulsa, OK because the park maintenance had not been properly trained and used an inferior plastic to repair the latch system under the cars. One person died, but it was also because the operator released the second car before the first one was over the lift hill, so the cars collided. Because of this, my family was so scared that I was 14 before I ever rode a "real" rollercoaster. With only having one train, this "new" rollercoaster should be safe from that, though.

@m33m001 15 дней назад

I rode this multiple times back in La Feria, it was awesome. So sad it is like this now :/

@bohottie 15 дней назад

They just have to get rid of the garbage restraints, and it would be so much better.

@_pic0_301 15 дней назад

What would you re-ride, All American Triple Loop, Bandit or Goudurix

@benbreeck3363 15 дней назад

5:08 It sounds like you're getting stapled in from all those restraints, especially the shouder ones. If Ed Hart still owns this park, It'll be a black mark on his record.