All Baffle Combinations Comparison - TAB Performance 

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It is an awesome place for shooting videos.

I'm trying to decide whether to go with the 2.5 or the 1.75". I have real sensitive ears and would rather try to keep what's left of my hearing. I like the stock exhaust on my 114 but I would like a little bit more tone. What's your opinion?

did you make any other additions, cams, headers, I have the COBRA True Duals, kind of leaning towards the medium also....

@@charleyrider9775 hello, did you end up getting the 1.75” and if so, is the sound better than stock?

Congrats on the new ride.

@@TABPerformance thanks. It’s a 2021 obviously, not a 2022. lol. Anyways, yeah I’m super excited to get some pipes on there and actually be able to hear it. Tab performance pipes make a Harley sound the way a Harley is supposed to sound, the way you’d expect a Harley to sound.

@@My.name.goes.here. How did those quiet baffles work out for you?

Agree completely! I've got them on my bike, they sound great.

Just got mine installed and wow what a difference! For me its the customer service at Tab performance that me wanna buy them!

Question... I got the zombie baffles for my 2019 road glide special... I’m thinking I’m gunna go wide open. Do I just remove the core? Or do I remove the wrap on the core and reinsert it? Any help would be appreciated!!!

@@mrkapusta9935 have the same bike . Were the zombies not loud enough?

Glad to hear you like them on your Indian. We do plan on doing a video for the Indian before too long :)

hey when will you post the different variation for the indian. Maybe with stock headers vs true dual headers. Looking into purchasing one soon but would like to see which would be the best

xmaniac we still have this on our list, but just have not been able to get an Indian in here to do this with yet. If you go to Indianmotorcycles.net there is a group of people who have posted many combinations of sound clips with and without stock headers. It isn't quite the same as a side by side, but should give you some really good information to go on.

Awesome looking forward to getting one

Yeah, not really an ideal way to get on there, but when shooting the video just kind of got stuck there, lol.

You can mount your bike anyway you like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

John Gaynor What kind of bike do you have a Cam and headers

John Gaynor how much were the zombie baffle slip-on’s????

Jim Beam Did you go with the 2.5? Do you like them?

If the baffle inside has holes in the tube its louvered, if not its a zombie.

Thanks!

How's the long highway rides? Not over deafening? I'm also in process of getting rid of junk cat header on my '12 EGlide. Going with a ceramic coated performance header from Rush, I was thinking the 2 .5 baffle would be perfect, due to wanting backpress for low end torque??

I think the 2.5 louvered would be the way to go on this model with no cat.

Yes, they are.

4.5 is more popular with the stretch bags, but 4" is still very popular with the standard bags on a 12. Internally they are the same so you can go either way. The mufflers are not 50 state legal, however when paired with a stock intake and stock header that has a catalyst, they are still EPA compliant on emissions per lab testing.

Waste of money to tune, if you are only putting on slip ons and not putting a new air intake or headers.

Arnold Soshkin the bike will run noticeably better after a tune. We even went as far as to do a stock bike with an improved tune and were able to pick up at 2.5 on max torque as well as HP. In our opinion it does still help the bike run noticeably smoother and cooler if properly tuned.

These are the 4" but the 4.5" and the 4" use the same internal components and will be very much alike from sound and performance. The 4.5" seemed to have a little deeper note although it was very minimal.

Dave, that is a tough call. Most of our people like the zombies, but based on your description you sound more 2.5 than zombie to me.

TAB Performance, Inc. Thanks. I think you’re right. I’ll be placing an order very soon 👍🏻

@@bav114 i have just ordered with zombie baffles. i live on the south coast if you wanna listen to them in real life at somepoint

James thanks that’ll be great. Let me know when you have them installed 👍🏻

James will you be running them with stock headers? Do you have an M8 engined bike.

Glad it was helpful!

Just slip-ons in this video. Thanks,

We do require a tune to stand behind our warranty as a bike that isn't properly tuned will run hot and cause issues with bluing of pipes or worse. That said, we do have customers do this and I haven't heard of any issues, but again, to maintain warranty the bike needs to be running properly and tuned properly as well.

It is the BAM Sticks with zombie baffle option, you can find them under the touring section or go to www.tabperformance.com and search for 121-1295

No baffles technically louder but won't run as good from performance standpoint and it isn't much louder. Also you could have trouble getting a proper tune which could cause bluing. We offer that option for people who know they want to do that and don't care, but we do not recommend it.

When side by side the 4.5 are deeper just a hair. That being said if you heard them on different days you wouldn't be able to discern in my opinion, but side by side they are a tad deeper note on the 4.5s.

@@TABPerformance I would like to say thank you guys are awesome as far as answering questions. I'll be placing my order soon. Just got to hide some money from the girlfriend😀

No problem, happy to have you on board. We won't tell :)

Likely not.

That is a resurrection chopper gear backrest, it is a company owned by TAB Performance and can be purchased right off our website. www.tabperformance.com

Just responding here even though we have communicated already so others know. This is not the case and we have dyno charts to prove that, the M8s to respond well with the zombies especially in this type of a set-up.

Hey there, I would always recommend buying with the baffles and then going seeing what you think. It is cheaper for you to buy that way and remove the baffles if needed then to wish you'd bought them and have to buy them later.

Don't go no baffle. You will get stopped. The Zombies are freaking loud, good tone. Still get it tuned. It will starve for gas and surge. It will run hotter and could result in some engine damage without getting it tuned.

non baffled is a little louder, but it also loses the quality of sound in our opinion. Also much more difficult to tune and higher chance of bluing the exhaust with non baffled.

Yes

How do you like them?

Yes stock motor, stock header on this one. Just slip-ons and a tune.

Troy, this is completely stock other than a Power Vision Tune. No air filter or any other modifications were made and the video was not altered in any way. We simply ran a video recorder and put it to the test.

Why did you tune if you only put slip ons. Unless you you put on new headers?

@@asoshkin when you open up the exhaust, it'll decel pop if you don't tune it.

We will be doing a video on that in the future, but I believe Dynojet has a video showing how to do that currently. It may not be exactly a street glide but the process is the same for all models.

@@TABPerformance Do they have TAB Performance exhausts in their database for tuning ?

Yes, they have maps in the preconfigured section.

Of course they are, but don't take my word for it. Check out this group of customers on FB and let them speak to the sound of #zombienation facebook.com/groups/698866373631523/?ref=bookmarks

Rick M YES

We have one listed. It is called muffler shootout. Linked to the 50 Cal listing on the website :)

Yes, no baffles will give you a little better horsepower and a little less torque than the zombies. It seems to be about 2 HP more and about 2 Torque less on average. Both will be improvements over stock, but then it kind of becomes a trade off. I'd recommend listening to our "all baffle comparison video and deciding on sound though, as 2 units on either side are not enough for the average rider to "feel" when driving. If you run either type properly tuned, you will notice performance gains on both ends. Side note, the non-baffled has a substantially higher chance of bluing the pipe if not properly tuned.

@@TABPerformance Following up on this, I was told by a performance dyno tester that the TAB "zombie" baffles will result in less low end torque than other brand pipes. Yes, they will sound loud though. Do you agree that the Zombie baffle has less low end torque then let's say your 2.5" pipe?

Tyrone Shoelace please see the attached video. This is with an aftermarket header and dyno tuned by a customer of ours. The results are actually very good on the zombies in this set-up compared to other baffles with more back pressure. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YRwRsWHRU1s.html long story short, this is not a good thing to just use as a rule of thumb as it matters what has been done to the bike. If you have cams even with an aftermarket header you will perform well with the zombies. If you have a stock head pipe, you will also perform pretty well even without motor work. Most technicians just give you a blanket statement of "if it is louder, it is more open and thus less torque due to back pressure" which is an ok general rule, but not universally accurate. Back Pressure is not necessarily good, it is more important to have the right amount of restriction causing exhaust velocity that completes scavenging to help with torque. See this video for info on that. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9ZcsZ82xa-s.html

Its one of ours. You can find them at www.tabperformance.com

We do require a tune to stand behind our warranty as a bike that isn't properly tuned will run hot and cause issues with bluing of pipes or worse. That said, we do have customers do this and I haven't heard of any issues, but again, to maintain warranty the bike needs to be running properly and tuned properly as well.

Bryan we have plenty of dyno charts that show plenty of improvement over stock. I'm not sure what map you are running but I'd start there. I have never paired them with Rinehart headers so I can't speak to that, but you might reach out to West End Performance. They have a lot of experience with all of the components you discussed and would be a good third party opinion.

@@TABPerformance not knocking the slip ons they sound amazing I recommend to everyone I just think it needs a good tune. Thanks for your help

Bryan, I appreciate the clarification, we agree, that a tune is critical.

2.5 is the baffle 4 in is the shell. Loudness goes 1.75, 2.5, then zombie

@@TABPerformance i see so shell is 4 inch . And the loudest is the zombie baffle. Ok now i see theres a option to order with NO baffle correct? Is NO baffle louder than the zombie

Non baffled is louder, but the sound quality is not great in my opinion and you will have trouble tuning the bike and could cause bluing of your exhaust. It is not recommended but we do sell it that way for people who are going to do it anyway to save them the trouble and cost of pulling the baffles.

Man yall really got it on point! And deff awesome info. Now if i ordered some which do i get. Id deff want zombie, chrome and loudest pipe? I have a 2020 roadglide 107ci

I would go 4" if you are looking for standard bags, but if you like the thicker pipe or have extended bags, I would go with the 4.5" it is a little deeper note, but not much.

We have these exact same style available in that model. Make sure you pick the ones that are for the 1995-2016

@@TABPerformance outstanding! I plan to get a set this winter.

@Kashmirknight this is a stock headpipe

I love the zombies and they sound amazing when you have a cam in your bike

Thanks!

yes

www.tabperformance.com/harley-davidson-touring-fl-exhaust-pipe-mufflers-p/121-1294.htm

The link attached will fit the 2006 Street Glide, same baffle combinations.

These are the 4" but the internals are the same. The 4.5's may be a tad deeper but barely noticeable difference at all.

@@TABPerformance can you do a comparison video between the 4" and 4.5" with zombie baffles? I'm torn between the 2 and would hate to get the wrong 1 for my liking, I'm defiantly buying 1 of the pair!!

We will try to work that into our schedule. Currently the bikes are unavailable for that type of a video, but in general the sound is very similar. The 4.5s are a hair deeper tone, but you'd only notice if they were side by side. The other benefit to the 4.5s is the amount of space it takes up on the new cutouts for the stock extended bags.

Can't be all things to all people, glad you are happy with them, the people over there are great.