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I have had BSG Deadlock since the videos you did on the individual ship types. Your right, it is a fantastic game. I have spent many hours playing it and I think the Artemis class is a great ship. I also love the channel and am looking forward to the Sojourn.
I'm surprised you didn't mention that they also commissioned you to do some of the lore for deadlock. Didn't you? Either way, I'm not commissioned in the slightest, but I will say straight up that deadlock is probably one of the best turn-based strategy games ever made.
A dive into a 'Pegasus Timeline' would be fun. I imagine it'll rank up there with the 'New Caprica Timeline' proposal made a while back for 'BSG shows we didn't get but want now that we know of the possibilities'.
Interesting notes: 1. While Pegasus was bigger than Galactica, a lot of the interior space of Pegasus was taken up with machines/automation. A kind of a mobile factory. 2. Galactica on the other hand is almost completely manual, and packed to the brim with weapons, and anti-air cannons. Galactica was essentially a hedgehog. When Pegasus was destroyed (and the Pegasus crew transferred to Galactica), Galactica finally reached the amount of crew necessary to operate at wartime levels. 2. Pegasus was very undermanned, and that's why the halls were nearly empty in the shots. They lost so many crew since the first Cylon attack, that you could go your whole day without talking to anyone. 3. Rear Admiral Cain achieved her position mostly through connections, and family legacy. However, most of the top admirals didn't want her in any position of "real power", so they assigned her to Pegasus - a very expensive, limited newly-produced prototype class. She had prestige, but no real power. 4. Admiral Cain was defeated in several war games by inferior battlestars but with superior commanders. Cain was noted for being stubborn, too by the book, and in-flexible in her combat tactics. 5. While the Mercury-class battlestars (Pegasus) were the newest design of battlestar, they were considered bloated, and extremely expensive to make. It was considered an experimental testbed to test new technologies such a mobile viper factory, more automation, etc. The class had an extremely limited run, and was mostly for show instead of military might. There was no way they could afford to mass produce the Mercury-class in large numbers. 6. Most of the Colonial fleet consisted of small Valkyrie-class and some refitted Jupiter-class (galactica-type) battlestars. The Valkyrie-class was the smallest, but was the cheapest to make battlestar. Due to it's small size, it was considered a "light-battlestar" or even sometimes a "diet-battlestar". -Source: BSG Novels and Comics (as to how accurate they are, we can only speculate... sadly).
Compare that to original series' Commander Cain, a legend in his life time, a good friend of Adama, war veteran that kept his crew alive and ship intact without supporting fleet for repairs and manpower and still went on attacks against Cylons.
The real oddity is that Admiral Adama didnt take command of the Pegasus as his flagship, for the Mercury-class Battlestar was fár more advanced and more powerful then the more outdated Jupiter-class: Galactica. Surely the most experienced Commander would pick that as his flagship, and not send his inexperienced CAG, his SON even, to command a vessel só incredibly vital to the fleet! The Pegasus being terribly undermanned, wouldnt be an argument as the nearly fulyl automated Warship was operable with a crew of about 800, if i recall correctly, Cain lost a huge portion of her crew in the Ambush attack on the comm-station, but still had about twice that number! Pegasus was superior to Galactica in every way, raw firepower, support and strike craft, technological advancement and automated systems, twice the size, twice the Figherbays, Many dockingbays: This Warship was a command-centre and raptor-factory in space!... Why why did William Adama give the responsibility of something of SUCH importants, to such an inexperienced commander as Lee?
@@thegreenreaper6660 when we look at the 20th century there are historical cases of admirals deliberately not being on the most powerful ship in the fleet. The most powerful ship need to be in the thick of the action. That also make the risk to the admiral and his staff greater and make it harder to control the fleet. One example is Japanese admiral Kurita. He used a heavy cruiser (Atago) as his flagship before the battle of Leyte Gulf... despite his force having 5 battleships.. including the Yamato and the Musashi. The two largest battleships ever build. In this case he got unlucky and the cruiser was sunk by a submarine before the battle... so he ended up transferring his flag to the Yamato... --- Regarding the other issue. Giving Lee the command is not that strange a decision. The pegasus is out of senior officers with CIC command experience. With Cain executing at least one, and a number of the being killed in combat or by other causes. Also we do know that he gone true war college... exactly what that is is not 100% clear, but it do appear to be a senior training that far from all officers go true. So even if he is not experienced as a Battlestar captain it is clear that he do know the tactics of one. And have served as CAG for a good deal of time. (also not doing so would require introducing yet another new character...) But The admiral should not be commanding a ship at all. He should have transferred his flag to the Pegasus and left the Galactica in the hands of his xo. (or some other officer with the needed experience from CIC) And then he could keep an eye on the pegasus and focus on coordinating/commanding the fleet... not commanding the ship he is on. When Nelson fought at Trafalgar, he did not command the Victory... It was captained by Thomas Hardy.
@@thomasbaagaard I do agree: the Admiral is in command of the FLEET! not just the biggest/most powerful vessel. Yet the Galactica was such a terribly outdated warship, and no compare to the MErcury-class 'behemoth sized' Pegasus, it doesnt make any sense for any capable admiral to nOT have the pegasus vást utility's and resources NOT at his direct command and disposal! The Pegasus was too important a ship for that! He should have assigned Saul Tigh as Commander of the Galactica, his son Lee as cáptain of the Pegasus, where he, as Admiral would oversee that: 'groom Lee for Command', idk, transfer him over to Galactica fro mtime to time to let Saul 'grill and drill him' a bit too; teach Lee some cold hard discipline etc.. But getting the Pegasus to an operable crewnumber to get it fuly up and functional, should have been a main priority for Bill Adama. the Pegasus would éat Basestars for breakfast!
@@thegreenreaper6660 another obvious question, if the pegasus was so understaffed... is why not transfer Galatica crew to it? Basically how to you get the most bang for the fewest number of crew?
I read somewhere that when Moore was building the series with Scifi channel they told him that the Galactica could not look like the original TV version. To get around this he invented the flight pod retraction. He showed executives 2d blueprints of the Galactica with the pods tucked in and they didn't recognize it and so approved the design.
I felt so legitimately sad when the Galactica made its last FTL jump and buckled, like I felt that pain in my chest of seeing an animal or friend hurt. We always hope she’ll pull through, and she always did, but that moment was...ouch. Just a ship, but a friend, protector, and safe haven
Watching the scene....... that ripple buckle looked like she shattered her spine, I am still reeling from her final landing from her final jump...... it wrecked me. She really was a character in her own right as well as being a set. Even without the Cylon patches she was a living and lived in being.
There’s never been another show where every hit, every bit of damage over time was tracked for several years. By the time the last ep rolled the old girl had engaged a dozen base stars, taken down a couple, been hit by nukes, raiders, missiles, jumped through stars, been dropped into atmosphere to free fall, and then been hammered by 4 basestars for like fifteen minutes…. And even after her spine broke, she still flew. The old girls is hands down the toughest ship I’ve ever seen depicted on screen. Just like the Admiral, she was a tough old bird
At 10:17 you can see the launch tubes under the Valkyrie's flight pods. They are facing forwards instead of the side. Most likely due to the smaller size, they need to be that way to get the acceleration.
I read somewhere that each tube has three elevators in it at different positions for quicker launches, basically allowing 9 Vipers to launch from each pod at once. Anyone else see anything about that?
oh god, same discussion as when Lore Reloaded did his Battlestar listing. If I recall correctly, all canon media reports no launch tubes at all, even while it visually seems to show something like it.
I bet the guy who played Lee's character can barely show his face at Comic Con. Every five minutes someone would come up yelling, "WHY HELL DID YOU WASTE PEGASUS, YOU IDIOT?!!"
Love the support you give Deadlock. It is such a great game. The base game on its own does feel a little incomplete and all too brief but with the DLC it reaches near perfection. Nothing beats the feeling of getting the Artemis for the first time in game. And then it's a game changer again every time you get a new class of ship, including the other two Battlestars. They are so well balanced that they can deal out the damage and take out Cylons left right and centre if you give them the support they need but if the enemy starts to gang up on one then you can quickly find yourself in trouble with only a couple of turns to deal with the situation. And when you lose one you feel that loss deeply, cos yeah you may even go on to win the battle with your other ships but it cost you a freaking Battlestar.
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10:00 the Valkyrie has launch tubes, they’re just forward facing, check the bottom of the flight pods, three on each side. It’s also possible that, given the length of the tubes, each may fire more than one viper.
always thought the Osiris class looked like a submarine that learned to fly in space myself. I mean it's got a sort of "Conning tower" and everything. that and from the rear it very much looks like a modern nuclear-submarine's hull form: blunt bow, long, broad, flat middle, narrowing toward the stern with engines and even what looks like vertical rudders and diving planes.
Like any good successor. The Pegasus was both larger (More durable), more advanced (Automated Gun Batteries), Self Sufficient (Onboard Manufacturing Facilities), and more powerful (Larger Guns placed in more strategically sound areas). Unfortunately it was the victim of plot...... And it's Network would be a liability (Luckily the vessel could operate without the Network).
Best description I ever heard for the Valkyries and the Galactica. The Galactica was a improved 1980 era Iowa Battleship while the Valkyries were AEGIS Cruisers. You build a lot of Aegis ships and use them en masse or to cruise alone to show the flag. But when it comes down to it, the you only need one Iowa/Galactica when the chips are down. Then you get the Mercurys, which would be like a modern Gerald Ford Aircraft Carrier. You don't need the old warhorse like a Galactica when you have that, but you would need those Aegis /Valkyries to escort that larger ship.
I've said it in the deadlock discord a few times, but I think you might like this idea Spacedock. I conemplates the idea of if Cain had ended up being a Cylon (With a character arc of her having to come to terms with this), resurrected when she died, Pegasus would still be "Lost" in the new caprica arc however we never directly see it destroyed we just see it go down fighting, and instead of the rebel baseship, Cain had retaken Pegasus from orbit of New Caprica and used it to lead the Cylon Rebellion ultimately sacrificing herself and her ship in the Colony battle to allow Galactica to escape. That explanation is an incredibly short one of what I would have had happen but you could get the picture from it. You'd have 2 arcs, Boomer vs Cain, where Boomer sides with the Cylons but Cain realizes in a character arc of growth that revenge isn't the only thing, and she has the power to create the peace she so desperately seemed to want to achieve via revenge but now she chooses to achieve it so cylons and humanity can live together. It's an idea. If you wanna do something with the idea in any sort of theoretical scenario videos go right ahead, I'm in no position to use the idea lol.
Daniel I know you love specialized ships, so are there any *pure battleships* in BSG? Just heavy, heavy armour, heavy guns to take out Basestars in one salvo and point defense (plus maybe interceptor missiles) to keep raiders off its back and take out incoming ordinance. Plus some launch tubes, loaded with nukes of course. No fighters, no flight pods. Just slabs of armour on a basic robust frame. Without the need to support fighters and fighter jocks it could be a much simpler design and be logistically cheaper, a good ship to fill out a fleet. In a battle it charges the Basestars a bit like Pegasus did, but hopefully not so outnumbered and with better support from other ships. In _that_ battle Pegasus actually was that style of ship, just not optimised for it - it had no fighters. Now imagine if it was optimised, no long term facilities, instead all firepower and damage soaks (flight pods are a weak spot). Although you'd use a smaller frame as such a ship couldn't sustain operations in its own, except as a hit and _gun_ raider. It would make sense in the first Cylon war, as a cheaper design based on an existing frame that just eats the Basestars while the true Battlestars take out the fighters, because otherwise Cylon raiders would eat it without fighter screens. A light Battlestar with more direct firepower and toughness than a heavy Battlestar. But if it was the last hope for humanity, humanity is screwed because it's not designed for long term missions on its own. I heard you mention frigates from Dead Lock, anything that qualifies? And if not, why not try your hand at designing something along these lines as a what if?
The Minotaur class Gunship is a good example. One of my mainstay support ships in Deadlock. No fighters, but does have light guns similar to those on Galactica's flight pods to cut down Raiders. Plenty of armor, but still maneuverable. It's biggest vulnerability is guided munitions, as it has neither flak nor fighters to intercept incoming missiles or nukes. Best as part of a fleet where you can assign a squadron of Vipers from a Battlestar (or Adamant class Frigate) to deal with fighters & missiles, but let the Minotaur slaughter any Cylon capital ship that gets too close.
Three ships are Colonial gunboats. Minotaur class. More like a cruiser than a battleship, however. Janus Class. Heavy Cruiser, with some emphasis on missiles over guns, but with slow reload of 4 turns to most ships 3 turn. The Janus big guns are on the bottom. Paired with Battlestars who have top guns you stack your fleet with Janus up top, and Battlestar below to avoid collisions, and get good use of the guns. The True All Gun Battleship of the Colonial Fleet is the Heracles. It has lots of heavy turrets, lots of little defensive light guns, but no medium armament of any kind, including fighters or missiles. It can even fire flak fields like a Battlestar. Its just a big ship with big guns.
I figured Galactica's flight pods retract prior to FTL was because it looks good on camera. Same reason Voyager's nacelles move or Discovery's saucer flip. It just looks cool.
The last time Galactica jumped she did with the flight pods extended, and on top of all the damage suffered, that was probably what made the ship twist and bend like it did and break her spinal structure alltogether.
Same. As he said, the ship had become a beloved character all its own and we were watching that beloved character be sacrificed to deliver the others safety.
@@jacobbrown1690 no he was probably Republicans cuz only Republicans think of an unlimited military budget so they don't care about resources as long as they can spend whatever they want on the military and now with everything else
@@ringgold1212 I'm independent at best. I dislike both the right and left. But what you're saying is dumb. Republicans think they have unlimited resources? That's not the reason why Trump wants to pull US troops from places around the world right? Or why he criticized the F-35 program because it was expensive. Ronald Reagan was a Republican. He brought back battleships. Republicans are more military friendly and thoughtful FROM what I've seen. Leftists hate the military and do no good for it. They would rather impose identity politics like inclusion and diversity rather than stay realistic. China and Russia will defeat us if we stay this path.
@@HumanPhilosopherPatriot that's the problem with you you think that you have to have a r by your name to appreciate the military my family happens to be Democrats but we've served in the military since World War II we're just not in favor of forever Wars and stupid Wars you have kids now going the same Patrol routes in Afghanistan as their parents Republicans usually like War for war sake and the people who hid Rich are the contractors I believe it was President Eisenhower who said Beware of the military-industrial complex Republicans generally miss the whole point of that statement. Our military budget is outrageous what is the use of having the strongest military in the world if you have no money left to spend on domestic policy and programs and your home country is turning into a shithole because Republicans say we don't have any money for infrastructure improving our own roads in schools to make this country a better place. If you've ever bothered to travel overseas most other major countries airports they have bullet trains their infrastructure is a lot better than ours. Nobody is for dismantling our military but we definitely need to have better policies and a balance between what we spend on the military and what we spend on domestic programs. I'm so sick and tired of Republicans thinking that they have a god-given right to the military and patriotism when my family along with others who did not pull the lever for Republicans have served with distinction and honor so please cut that bulshit out about if you're not a republican you can't be patriotic
In Deadlock the Orion isn't even classified as a battlestar, it's a stealth frigate. That makes more sense imo as it doesn't share the same general form factor or intended purpose as the rest of the battlestar classes.
It's not really pertinent for this discussion, but i think it's interesting that in the original galactica, the ship was 500 years old. Basically, battlestars were such huge investments in time and resources that they were endlessly retrofitted. We don't even know what the "original" galactica looked like when it was new, but it's stated that it has changed a lot, with few if any original elements remaining. Given that they never actually *said* that the galactica or any other ships went FTL, and given thatt he cylon war lasted 1000 years, and given that it and the pegasus seemed to have a family lineage command structure, i've often wondered in its extreme age may have implied battlestars were, to some extent, generation ships, sent off to operated on their own for decades or centuries at a time, or, if that's not the case by the time the series starts, it may have been the original concept. Just a thought.
I love this theory. I always thought that the Galactica was among the older generation of Battlestars (The Pegasus being a newer vessel of the same design). Galactica originally carried 6th Millennium Fighters (I call them Serpents) and Scorpions (The "Less Fancy" Fighters Tigh and Adama "Gave a good run"). It had several celestial towers placed throughout the vessel. It was probably Refitted around 40 to 45 Yahrens before the Battle of Cimtar. The Colonials probably built hundreds of Battlestars over the Thousand Yahren War (But by it's end they only had 6). Advanced Construction methods would ensure that a Battlestar (With a Refit every century) could be used continuously. The only concern was whether it had enough Tylium Fuel to operate.
I think the Galactica went at "Light Speed" during it's journey to Terra. Tigh warned that Galactica hadn't made a Jump in 20 Yahrens (This would be duplicated in the Reimagined Miniseries).
@@richardched6085 Terminology and science are so wildly inconsistent in the original BSG that it's really hard to know what they're talking about a lot of the time. However I tend to think "Light Speed" simply meant the speed of light, and no faster. That means the fleet was generally traveling slower-than-light, and Larson and the writers probably just didn't understand how slow that is and how far apart stars are. Just the same, I *love* the idea that nobody was going FTL, and part of the reason the war lasted a thousand years was because it was a Joe Halderman "Forever War" kind of situation. That's one hell of a retcon on my part, though.
@@mahatmarandy5977 Makes sense. Since the Colonials had Outposts far beyond even Kobol. It was only towards the end of the series that Galactica encountered Colonies of the 13th Tribe (Like Terra). That Ambrosia Production Facility on Proteus was founded by Colonials from Aerilon (Aeries in the show). Many of these Outposts were likely founded by shipwrecked Colonials during the Thousand Yahren War.
Richard Ched IIRC, Proteus Prison was set up before the war. Once fighting started, contact was lost, and the colonies seem to have mostly forgotten they even existed. Starbuck said, "they probably thought you were destroyed early in the war." Likewse, Antilla - the planet with the kids - was started (according to the book) by basically space amish. Folks from one of the colonies that wanted a low-tech existence. I dunno about the other human worlds they found, but i'd assume they were colonies of the colonies or separatists, or, yeah, shipwrecked folk would work too. Interesting idea.
If you look at the front picture of the Valkyrie class you can see the viper launch tubes are below the flight pods. There even is a video out there where you see the MK III lowered from the deck...
I was completely upset what Lee Adama did to battlestar Pegasus, he should of brought some support ship like the Astra Queen an others if Armed to help out, #Spacedock
just to let you know for the Valkyrie you can see the lunch tubes are mounted under the flight deck in the forward orinetation, you can just barly make them out in the first image shown but they are there.
Actually, the retraction of the flight pods on the Jupiter Class was an easter egg to the Galactica and her sister ships in the original tie-in novels where it was stated that the hangar pods retracted when not in use to allow the Galactica to move a t full speed and protect valuable systems (and personnel) within. A great shout out to a very little known fact about the original Galactica.
In the Valkerie class he said that there is no viper launch tubes. Look at the front view. The bottom of the flight pods have what looks like launch tubes. Three on each pod.
Spacedock, if you look at the picture a 10:20 you'll see the Viper launch tubes. there looks to be 3 of them on the underside of each flight pod. at first i thought they were missile tubes but they seem to have the tell tail triangular shape of a standard colonial viper.
A normal battlestar is like a carrier and a battleship in one, but battlestars like the minervas and valkyries is more like a carrier and a battlecruiser (battleship grade guns but with less armour for more speed with )in one (the battlecruisers was originally designed to destroy cruisers with the idea of destroy anything thay outgun, outrun anything that they can't) this does go with the deployment of the dreadnoughts and the basic for the ww2 battleship and battlecruisers.
There's the Viper Launch Tubes on the Valkyrie. They're below the Flight Deck. You can just make them out if you look close enough to see the vague Viper shape.
If the pegasus wasn't wasted the entire show would've been different.. Earth would've started up with technical advantages. And their enemies mostly destroyed.. Especially being without the regen ship
Superb video. Some lovely ships too. Had to chuckle at your irritation at Lee Adama's wasting the Pegasus. Lol! I reckon all Galactica fans were shaking their heads at that decision. :)
I have a theory on why the Jupiter class had retractable flight pods, the cost of construction. If you think about it the flight pods could be a design flaw since in order for you to jump they much be retracted lest you suffer structural damage, which also means that you also need to finish recalling all of your fighters before you can start retracting them, unless the pilots are aces like Starbuck. The only reason to have this quark is to offset something else like cost, maybe since the Jupiter class was being designed and produced during the First Cylon War the designers need to reduce the cost of materials and construction time so that more battlestars could be produced.
They never describe anything about that ship though in the show. I think it'd be hard to do a video on just because you never learn anything. It has shields for instance, but you never learn anything about it other than "it has shields"
I loved the way you guys explained the Battlestars and the classes but I think that the number one slot should have gone to the Prometheus class Battlestars which were built in secret by 3 of the colonial worlds and only 3 of the Battlestars were ever finished. How ever you guys are great and keep up the good work you do I'm a huge fan.
People do reviews of Star Trek ships from the 1960's TV show. People do reviews of Star Wars ships from the 1970's movie. But, when it comes to Battlestar Galactica they only do ship reviews from the reboot series. I've never seen a Battlestar Galactica ship review for the 1970's ships.
I wholeheartedly agree. The original series doesn't get enough attention. You'd have to do the entire fleet I think. Galactica, Pegasus, Atlantia, and all the others that were destroyed at the conference were all the same shooting model, because they had such a minuscule budget for the models. The Agro-ship was even a reuse of the Valley Forge from Silent Running. The Rising Star made an appearance in an episode of Buck Rogers, if memory serves. Sadly, I don't think much survives of the rag-tag fleet models. BSG was my first sci-fi series. The reboot saddens me. If the reboot used different names, I wouldn't have nearly as much of a problem with it. But they used the name Galactica because it was an established IP. Then they hired the VFX house that did Space:Above and Beyond, and that turned it into a reskinned S:AaB.
I would actually like to see a Battlestar Galactica 2nd Cylon War game made. In it intelligence agencies figured out what Gaius was up to and laid in a trap for the ambushing Cylons and a new war ensued in which the Galactica was recommissioned and still under the command of William Adama. A true "what if" spinoff if there ever was one. There are numerous arguments about what would happen if there were a 2nd Cylon war, and I think it's worth diving into with another BSG game.
I'd like someone to do a video on the attack on the Cylon Colony "ship" where they rescued Hera. At the end we see a Raptor get hit with debris which sends it spiraling and the pilot hits the launch button for the missles (which were mounted in a pod of maybe 12 or 24 missiles - I forget if there was 1 or 2 pods). Were these pods mounted for this attack only or were they retractable and we just never saw them. What was unbelievable was that the missiles took out the entire colony, which was many, many times the size of a basestar - it looked to be maybe the size of 20-50 base stars. Even if they were nukes, I don't think this would have happened, and the opening salvo on the Galactica had much larger projectiles & missiles hitting it and hundreds or thousands of them. It just seems like a major mistake in the series. The colony hits the smaller Galactica with a massive and sustained salvo and the BSG is still operable. The Colony takes 12 or 24 hits from a Raptor and it blows up. WTF. Seriously? Who wrote that!?
I have to agree, and I said it back when the episode first aired. Whether you like Adama's strategy at New Caprica or not, if you are going to ram a battlestar into a base star...why not transfer the Flag to Pegasus and waste Galactica, which we found out toward the end of the series was falling apart anyway. The real reason: So they would not have to rename the show.
I always imagined that the need to retract the flight pods had less to do with the limitations of the ftl drive than the structural integrity of the main body at its thinnist point. The supports for the pods become structural support when retracted.
I'm very, very late to this discussion but I agree with you, I love this ship! You say it's in your top five ship designs in all science fiction. I'm curious to know what your top five are. Here's mine: 1. Enterprise 1701-E 2. Pegasus 3. Enterprise 1701 (ST: Discovery version) 4. Millennium Falcon (yeah I have a lot of love for this rust bucket) 5. Razor Crest (The Mandalorian)
I say if there’s any new show that comes out it should cover the first war and not be a reboot of the main series. Do a series that can add more amazing history and lore to build upon the 2nd war.
You know when you said the Artemis at over a kilometer long was smaller than Galactica, I had to go check how long that ship actually is. Like, it’s clearly huge as you can see whenever a viper or colonial 1 lands in its flight pod, but still. I didn’t expect it to be nearly 1.5 km long.
Their is ONE BATTLESTAR that you may have overlooked. It is in the original book BATTLESTAR Galactica A small note about A super BATTLESTAR . But the ship was lost in A space storm. Or was it? Check it out.
I love using Minerva's with a support ship buffing their armor. Use them in BSG Deadlock since the story won't let me play with Valkaries :D Love the game BTW.
The Orion-class was modeled after a submarine. Smaller stealth-centric vessel, with tight, cramped, hot quarters? Absolutely meant to be a submarine. Even the hull looks like one, with a conning tower and the rear engines resembling fins. It has a Soviet Typhoon-class vibe.
If you ever see it in a series again, it be a different series leading from the 2nd cylon war. The new series lead from Leonis and Virgon. The royal families that contend with each other. Royal Palace of Leonis Virgonese royal family The premises... Both kept older ships of the royal family. Which like Galactica, became museums. Some of the royal familes board the newer ships, but were destroyed by the cylon virus. Other family members board the older ships and escaped. Maybe older Valkyrie class ships? Maybe they had a modified dradis resistance hull? Cylons went after Galactica mainly but another fleet went after them. Or they escaped and formed a new colony on a planet that was not made public. There fear of the cylons discovery of course but the cylon that do this do not have a resurrection ship or they sent Centurion fleet after them. Why we do not see much of them in the Galactica chasing fleet.
There must of been other battlestars that survived, there just has to be. I mean hell, pegasus was following the cylons and BSG fleet and they didn’t even know. Who’s to say another cruiser wasn’t doing the same. I know this borderline ancient aliens mumble, but something like that could fit because in old ancient texts, there are many stories of gods fighting amongst themselves in what can only be described as a spaceship. Maybe the cylons came back, but another groups that was doing the same thing to another human fleet and they landed on our earth, but they brought the war with them and had to fight over who gets to settle here and who gets destroyed. That would be pretty cool tbh. It’s just crazy how humanity was able to rebuild after 3,000 years, but took longer on earth to get the same results. I’m sorry, it’s just been bugging me for years lol 😂
Light battlestar...that 70s version could lay waste to an entire planet, neutralize all ballistic weapons rendering normal missles useless, that's why they had to use lasers :P It's explained in the 1970's TV show why ballistic type weapons such as guns, and missles and rockets were abandoned :P
So watched the mini series for the first time the other day. I dont know what words to use. That isnt bg. Cylon people? All the ships look like they took the original battlestar and just changed curves. The people who redid the 70's show did not what it or the films. But this video is well presented and well spoken. And a great insight into different classes and varients
I have a question that may or may not have been answered by someone. Q... If a small spacecraft such as a Viper, Raider, heavy raider or even larger craft such as Colonial One were docked and magnetically attached to the hull of Galactica, would the energy field of the FTL jump drive cause them to jump as well? Or would they simply be left behind?
I really wish Amazon Prime would choose to make a new series set during the first Cylon war so we can get to see all new stories and see more ships and characters!! Yes we all know how the war eventually ends but that doesn't mean we can't enjoy the new stories we get!!
It would be trash. There's a habit nowadays of getting the best directors, best set designers, best actors, etc. in the world and then giving the writing job to a Hollywood hack. I generally try not to be a cynical person about these things but for example, Picard has Alex Kurtzman, who is just a woeful but connected writer, and the amazon LOTR series is penned by two relative unknowns who were part of JJ Abrams writing team. Hopefully I'm wrong about LOTR and if I am I'd hope again for a new BSG series. But I just can't anymore.
The Valkyrie has three launch tubes underneath each of the flight pods, with the ends pointing forwards instead of outwards like other, larger Battlestars.
If you look closely in the 2004 mini series, there is a shot of the planets being bombarded and what appears to be another Jupiter class ship, possible it’s not been retired and is a patrol ship? or is it just put there for looks in the scene I wonder
The ability of the Jupiter-class Battlestar to retract its flight pods also allowed it to drop straight down New Caprica's atmosphere. I doubt the Pegasus could have handled the Adama Maneuver.
I understand the premise of the show having an older surviving ship. But I loved the Mercury and would appreciate "What if" scenarios as well. Thanks! (Yeah, Lee was an idiot)
Personally my favourites are the Jupiter class and the mercury class Edit: played a bunch of deadlock and every single fleet has at least 1 Artemis class in it and most have 2. Frakking love that old girl
