All Facts about the New Type of Hearthstone Packs: Caverns of Times 

What I hate most about twist mode is how the info box moves my decks around, creating a fourth page for decks, but I can't make new decks on that page... They have the tech to give more deck slots, they just refuse to do so.

It kind of seems like the expansion is just for whales or people who have played lots of those expansions and want to play it for a month in twist because without some significant nerfs in wild a lot of the cards are unusable even for the standards of someone who gets high gold each season. Hopefully after the twist event rotates they’ll start nerfing some of top decks but the fact twist balance takes priority over wild is so annoying.

As a regular wild player I promise you guys less than 5 of the altered cards will have any meaningful impact in wild. This was a twist focused change that wild also happens to get.

As a mostly Wild player, I am going to buy enough to get all rares and then use stockpiled dust to craft epic and legendaries that look useful. Any recent standard set looks more useful for wild than this direct-to-wild release and it is a problem

I'm immediately putting my guard up. Hearthstone wants more and more of my money. Maybe we should return to the monetization of 2016 too. Back then I could spend $50 and feel pretty good about it. Now it's $80 pre orders, battle pass (plus one for Battlegrounds), mini sets, and now this...

Thanks for your hard work with everything! Dora is being a realistic reporter.

your work is so important for the hs community, to calculate necessary packs, notifiying us when the games is getting more expensive etc. without you guys there would a lot of guessing and speculation. ty very much and pls never stop❤❤

I could not give a shit about "wild expansions" and I only play wild, my problem is these cards won't matter when they won't balance the mode anyway, twist sounds fun as a extra mode you play once in a full moon, but besides that i still think it will have way less players than standard wild and battlegrounds.

As a strictly free to play player that can barely keep up with the standard collection. Unless Blizzard gives extra exclusive resources for twist or some extra resources overall, I don't plan to buy the new wild set nor play the Twist mode. Don't get me wrong, it looks really intriguing and fun, and I would love to try it out properly just as it launches as that's the most exciting time for new modes, but the resources needed to play it just seem like a bit too much.

I would to hear your analysis about cost and value of twist ready deck sold on the shop once known of course😂

Great video. Love your channel.

I really hope that twist isn't plagued with super hyper aggressive decks of old like the dreadful pirate warrior which started in mean streets of gagetzan. I am going to hold back to see how things play out for a few days. If it is plagued with super aggro decks only then i will refuse to spend a dime. It isn't fun at all going against ruthless aggro, and if the intention is to make the mode fun then i hope there is a balance between aggro, mid range, and control.

Do the new signature cards have a pity timer which counts previously opened packs from expansions (Imagine someone opened 360 packs when old gods came out, then opened more old gods packs now), or does it restart from 0?

Thanks once again❤

The problem is going to be the cavern of times set rotating in and out of the Twist format. When you collect a standard set you know it will be in standard for at least 16 months. We do not know how long Caverns will be available for in the long term. There are too many questions for me to justify spending resources on this and I am a collector.

After having every common and rare card of an expension, should I continue to buy regular pack or should I buy golden packs ? Which is the best ?

7:53 i see you guys run out of white chalk and used some colorful ones 😮

I bought the diamond murozond bundle and I love it and I had lucky cuz I also got Y’shaarj signature 🎉

So yesterday I got the new mage legendary thar gives 6 secrets off of the 4mana get 2 mage spells from the past almost won me the game.

im with Dora on this one

I think that this new set is inconsecuential to me since I don't play on wild and won't do it because I lack the cards and resources. But thanks for the analysis guys as always!

I’m more of a wild player, so I’m just going to craft the interesting cards that have some potential for wild (shaman new hero). The thing is wild is unbalanced so this expansion is going to change nothing.

Amazing video 👍

I'm glad i think all the signature cards look out of place and don't even want them.

Seems to me that they went full industrial vessel ship on the whales on this one

why do we not get pre-release bundles with Cavern of Times? Seems like a big marketing wasted opportunity.

If I disenchanted my legacy epics but theyre currently in standard (shield slam and brawl etc) do I have to craft them again just to use in twist?

I agree; for some odd reason I got carried away and spend 3000 gold and 16.000 dust to get me into the mode,... build C'thun Druid, Jade Rogue, and Discard Warlock. (ok ok and some legacy legendary cards)

I am just gonna craft the best got damn C'Thun deck ever made.

8:58 I completely agree with Dora. I was hoping for a sound rebuttal but it's basically "shut up, stop being negative". So I'm really expected to spend $90< for a MINISET that's only playable/viable in Twist and might rotate in a month? Bruh. Talk about shit value.

Im not a big spender, but I would have bought a big bundle (if available), but not for only 1 month and no assurance that the same cards will be used in the future for this playmode.

For me the protection didn't work. I got almost no new cards from Cavern of time. I got only a bunch of cards I already owned and only very few new rares and commons. Is this a bug or no? I can't still understand this. I don't like this at all. Why they did this to the old and loyal players?

Is there a guaranteed legendarny in the first ten packs?

I probably only will play twist if there is a event that would give packs for dust, i disenchant all cards from rotation,so not even sure if i will have enough cards to enter this mode =)

If this give us option to buy old skins (with animations) for gold, than i'm all in.

i doubt that many players are willing to purchase those Caverns of Time Packs if they can only play those in Twist for a single month, and i doubt there are many players who still have the old Cards in their Collection.

I just don't have the dust to play wild. Is what it is.

unsatisfied, dora is right, it is just a money grab and doesn’t help wild format whatsoever

I still don't understand how a "reprint" is any different than just a normal nerf/buff...

I'm hyyyyyped

Wait 1 month? I thought they said we would get Wonders for for 2 months 🤔.

But worst is ...blizzard changed my golden Yogg Saron for this new "stone look" like why they not remain both?

Did Blizzard give any statement if we are still getting a normal 2000 gold mini-set for TITANS? I'm a Wild player, but I'm really not sure if getting Caverns of Time is worth it. Historically, the mini-Sets always included at least one meta relevant legendary and a few other cards that even ended up getting nerfs.

Collector's don't care if they have to spend more money, since they have money to spend on collecting.

It’s literally a set for people who either play a lot or used to, anyone who doesn’t get it. Doesn’t play yugioh or magic, the throwback sets that reprint the money cards go off.

Really want the signayure old gods, depressing that il prolly never get any. :(

At some point, Hearthstone needs a subscription option, where you get everything. Constantly buying and opening packs, disenchanting and all that, just takes too long. And is just too expensive. I just want to be able to play the game. But the game will not let me. It keeps asking for more and more money, and putting annoying roadblocks in the way. I want to try Twist, but the cost makes it completely unviable. Hearthstone is not good enough as game to warrant this. And the existence of rotating formats means there is an ever-present risk of simply losing value, in the form of cards rotating out.

so they heavily encourge us to dust our collection as the cards rotated out 7 years ago and now they want to sell us the same cards we dusted. yeah im good on that. PASS

all just to have different graphics on the card. sick

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It is insane how much money you need to get all the cards

Yet another money grab from Blizzard. PS. With $1000, I took a one-week vacation in Paris, including travel (I'm from Italy), transportation, dinners, hotel and museums. I think it's a bit better than having some animations in a virtual card game. Maybe we've all lost sight of how much this stupid game costs.

I'm very desapointed by this twist season... They said it would be some cool rules, but in the end it's just New cards from New packs... Shame... I'm glad to see the buff tho. But Imo they're lady and greedy on this... To Bad because the mod has a lot of potential. I don't ecen talk about the beta which was awefull

I felt it was lame of blizzard to take this long to continue the Twist format. ** it reminds me of the old days when we could only play Tavern Brawl 4 days a week.

So i have to rebuy old cards? Man, this is why i left hearthstone a long time ago

Idk...I think it will be really cool to play a nostalgic, yet different metagame, but spending gold/money on it just to have it disappear in a month? meh

lol pay 1000$ for a few comics...unbelievable, just unbelievable

1000$ is an insane amount for in game transactions - who are willing to spend that much on any game 😅

Caverns of time is a scamy xpsion with no duplicate protection at best. just crafting the cards good in twist mode is the way dont spend on packs.

so we will have to play eh ? ffs

i think its cool, but its also very clearly a cash grab since mercs was shut down

How can people be hyped for signature cards, its just a normal card without text, even worse as u have to click the card to check its effects and are not even animated like golden or diamond cards, what a waste

Hearing the mention of "forcing" or "being forced" to do anything in a game doesnt sound logical

What I hate about twist is how broken it is. Saying that, standard is broken with hunter been so op. It doesnt has counterplay.

"Returns" in video's title really trips me up, because it isn't grammatically correct...

did they really just excuse a expansion that costs a fking 1000$. i mean i´m only here because this video got recomended but this channel is ridiculous.

I have everything in the game and I could care less about owning the signature cards . Blizzard failed at that aspect. They should have made those signature legendaries unlockable with achievements and owning the original legendary. The Diamond cards are so much better who gives AF about signature legendaries that don’t even show up in the collection or count against the 100% . The signature cards might as well be mercenary portraits at this point because I don’t think 99% of the player base gives one F about them and that includes whales like me who own every character cosmetic and cardback aside from the ones you get from participating in esports events. I have no desire to own them or even play with them. Now my golden chogall and weapon master legendaries can finally shine 😂😂😂😂. I just laugh at people who constantly dust cards to play one mode and never think the game will ever change . If the game doesn’t change people like me won’t play it anymore . When I responded to the surveys I’m always sent this is what I suggested they do but they really didn’t listen when I told them to make alternate art sets obtainable by either owning everything or by achievements . Not even whales like me will turn money into dust for 15 cards that frankly don’t even look that good. I have over 250k dust doing nothing . Why would I ever buy packs to get more dust I have no use for when I own everything ? Maybe make the signature cards craftable ONLY and not obtainable in packs . That would make dust worth something again. Evidently they are just to stupid to figure this out. When I open a signature legendary it isn’t even good 😂😂I’d rather have the golden legendary . Thank god they had that bug that let you disenchant signature legendaries for which I immediately got rid of stupid ones I already had the golden legendary for. Dump the signature cards and start making Diamond legendaries the end of the line. Signatures should be craftable with a high dust coat or obtainable for completing achievements but not in packs . No effort on the devs and really shows lack of any ingenuity or thinking beyond your nose to do what they did.