all of my videos are getting copyright claimed (so here's what I did) 

Facts

RU-vid still puts ads regardless. 🤷‍♀️

@@Starrysofficial I finally ditched expensive Prime and signed up for YT Premium. No more ads for me! I can’t believe I went this long without it

​@@Starrysofficial because the ad revenue still gets distributed, it just goes to the copyright owner instead of the content creator. The viewer has nothing to do with it.

You will, my channel isn't at all (neither my old) but they have the right to advertise whenever YT likes to. I guess not even limiting it to NPO doesn't really helps. Furtheron the claims are often wrong but you cannot insist proper, sometimes the refute is accepted but most time not and that is why now a triosonata by J.S. Bach (a by me arranged midi file) is a popsong from a group i never heard the name of before. And this is only one example. It leaks totally but they have zero interest to make it better in recognizing music. But the bot digs and digs and digs and digs... until it finds a possible infringement, sure it will find one even if that isn't true at all. And if that didn't works some company buys the right on this artists work and sue you after you have made it popular. Happened with Nina Paleys "Sita sings the blues" The artist and her music wasn't copyrighted she was forgotten. But as she published her movie, zack zack they bought the copyrights and sued Nina for using the songs of this artist. More as ten years i had "la voyage sur la lune" on my former channel, i took a missed hand colorized version which appeared in russia and layed over it an franco-canadian audio for the same movie. Some shitty company who only buys such old material has claimed a copyright on it and it was blocked. But you won't find the colored version so easy and most of all that is 100 years past and since long cultural asset and would belong to us all. Btw, the franco-canadian commented b&w version you can still watch on archive_org. It's a very funny version and the music is also very different. (english with a strong french accent, but this makes the movie so special to hear the french pronouncing, it totally fits to the movie, the music is if i remeber this right a sort of tarantella). btw, what you will find there is astonishing, i watched last month all movies made by Ralph Bakshi, the problematic thing is that it stands bisedes of hc porongraphy and mullahs who prey the prophet down to earth. That's the flipside of beeing so tolerant and to keep all on the server as long as no one insists. --- Why i cancelled my own channel? I was frustrated because of the adblocker removal. Not especially because, it thought "shit" and removed them. But a month later it was still claimed i use adblockers and couldn't watch and still sometimes this happens that YT claims i use an ad-blocker but not a single one is running. Yes indeed dunno my browser seems to pass the initial advert by but it's out of my control. What did i say? Beansconters are stupid as a piece of bread.

probably

@@EliseEcklund nah -- it\s free advertising for them

​@@aBachwardsfellow it's a joke xD

Beat me to it.

@@EliseEcklund hi

This is the truest comment I've ever seen

Actually it's designed like this because RU-vid is forced to. Playing copyrighted music is illegal. That's just how the copyright system works. I hate how everyone is blaming RU-vid when the actual problem is the copyright system itself.

@@zekiz774RU-vid is forced to address copyright infringement - they aren’t required to do it terribly, that’s an option that they _chose_ on purpose _because it’s the least amount of work for them possible._

@@babybirdhome RU-vids Copyright system is pretty sophisticated. I recommend watching the first few 5 minutes of Tom Scott's "RU-vids Copyright system isn't broken, the world is"

@@babybirdhome the alternative is that they give your information to law firms and sue you for up to a few million dollars for making a cover. More realistically it's a few thousand dollars, but this still isn't how it should be. The copyright system was designed in a time where individuals couldn't make anything by themselves without a company behind them. It's designed for companies that have lawyers. Not individuals.

The youtube equivalent of ambulance chasers launched copyright claims, that's what happened to it. I mean, youtube is "holding it in escrow".

That is so sad. I’m sorry

They describe themselves as an anti-label so that tracks.

This is why I will never post anything to my channel.

Someone was complaining a while back that the sound of his car engine had a copyright claim made against it.

crazy. definitely lots of false claims that happen.

@EliseEcklund That's for sure. I usually don't mind since most of the time the claim is coming from a small Christian label, and I'm fine with that. The ones I don't get are where I get flagged, but I'm clearly talking over the short clip anyway, so you can't even really hear it that clearly. Oh, well. It is what it is. Also, my nine-year-old son loves your stuff. He thinks you're weird but funny.

​@@EliseEcklundyou're very gifted it s😂hould be your choice to choose how much they get for their copyright ! I'm sure some judges would side with you but they have already money to pay a damn good lawyer I'm sure,, twist words in court and lie about the value of who owns what

The Steamboat Willie character is still copyright on RU-vid though it has entered public domain this year.

Bruh saaaaame. I sang a freaking sea shanty that is HUNDREDS of years old and got a copyright claim I had to dispute -.-

It's called _Permanent Sad Face_ and it's no laughing matter!

That's why she scares me

She's got her serious face on for this serious topic.

Emotions are overrated

It's called emotional damage. Her emotions are damaged.

Cool beans. 😂🤣

YESSS I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO MAKE THOSE BEANS!!

next week I hear we'll learn about refried beans

Would watch. Definitely. Might cook along as well. Maybe.

So ... She can 100% make an hour's content with visible branding of beans, but 10 seconds of a song? Math ain't mathing.

The collab I've been waiting for

I feel like every music youtuber is at this point.

@@seronimo__7735 I'm not even a RU-vidr and this is so silly to me. Using clips of songs for analysis or parody is like free advertising. The music industry coming down on all of us for copyright is insane.

​@@Book-bz8nsnarcissists like Apple recently with its advertising.

KDH said it right, Rick is selling a book while he does it. he plays their music and sells his product that will get him every time.

That makes sense. Does anyone know if it actually works?

There's some video that explains how this works. Yes you don't get 100% of the value, but gets shared (equally?) between them and you.

@@Soul-Burn But what you do then is create a remix of your theme under another persona and then, as the persona, copyright claim the original, (which is what some copyright trolls actually do, so the tactic is fair game), and then you get two-thirds not half.

I would fear that this may soon end. IE -- an inability to claim yourself

@@DugrozReports then your second account should claim.

And as more they rant since the '90s as more customers they lose, beanscounters are brainless. Which is no wonder even an ostrich can count, it is a zero skill.

You kids get offa that LAWN!

yep

I love her videos And yeah dang copyright owners

100% BECAUSE SHE USED 10 SECONDS OF A COPYRIGHT SONG SOUNDS LIKE BIG BABY STUDIOS

OK but like it kinda sucks for the company if everyone is violating their copyright. I think it's fair to do a shared system but you can't really blame them.

It's run by criminals. Everything like this is run by criminals.

I know, how dare music writers protect their works. What heathens.

Wouldn’t these companies earn more money if people can buy copyright?

Yeah probably because you have no idea how it works or what it even is

@@chriskay1449 the original intent of copyright was for the benefice of the public. It was to force the publishers, who owned a printing press, to pay authors for every sold book instead of a single payment. The original goal of copyright was to give an incentive to authors to write more. Today, copyright are used by publishers to gain more money, and the authors received less and less.

And then some label will copyright claim the video on behalf of Elise Ecklund, the same person who got claimed.

@@tubbunny It has happened before

@@tubbunny Not if she copyright claims it for herself first.

Very true! I don't think the record labels really care about the artists signed to them either. They're more concerned about making a profit for themselves and feeding everybody else the scraps. They say they have the artists best interest in mind by claiming all these videos, but chances of the actual artist seeing that money are probably very slim.

​@@EliseEcklundthey only care about their own ass.greetings from Poland :)

It's gotten a little better when T.S. negotiated her contract with Sony, but record labels have teams of people whose job it is to be expert greedy bastards using every exploit they can find.

@@EliseEcklund Exactly. BTW, just discovered your channel and I get a lot of laughs out of it. Keep up the good work.

I have to disagree. The albums promoted the tours back in the 60s, 70s & 80s, and probably still do. We all bought the albums and wore them out waiting for the band to play in or near your city. Radio play was to push the albums back in those days.

i'll have to check out that video!

As will I, but most likely YT isn't doing due diligence and as a result is actually committing crimes against content creators they demonetize over false copyright claims. Not to mention what they open themselves up to by acting as a publisher instead of a public forum.

​@@nrais76yup, parodies can't be claimed for copyright.

​@@nrais76 crimes against creators? ...am I dumb, or does this sound like class action lawsuit time? (I'm probably dumb)

@@klop4228Do you understand that does nothing? No one gets paid except the lawyers, and then they can just shut down the entire system for monetizing?Like do you not understand things dont get better for us if they get in trouble, it actually just makes them more likely to be irrational.

Am math teacher, can confirm, the math truly isn’t mathing.

Nope

It was sunny day, 100%

Yeah, it happens all the time now

@@alexbodi5526 but they don’t even have the copy-“right” to do that; even for reuploads of SML videos

Nickpick: copyright is automatic and stays with the original artist. The RU-vid copyright strike system is a different thing, and can be gamed.

@@jamesphillips2285let’s hope SuperBam hasn’t gotten to her

@@mezzb though I think Logan copyrighted his videos to get back at RU-vid

Thinking about those beans

Well, it _is_ known universally as "The Musical Fruit".

bro my bff's channel is called littlebeans littlebeans... so like...yeah

the biggest babies

​@@EliseEcklund giant babies??

@@EliseEcklund You can have all the revenue from my surf guitar version of "Kazoo Cotton Candy!": ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WlZF4-qs6sI.htmlsi=62cyTynMQ-IWBLQ1

Just to let you know , I own the rights to that 'greedy sharks' tune ....

Some day. Some day...

That’s like what my classmates always says: my brain isn’t braining😂

This policy is why I won't even post *original* work to my channel.

That doesn't stop the automatic claiming system.

Eh, even music games like Just Dance from Ubisoft, who bought the license, got their tailers of their games copyright claimed on their own youtube channel

@AllyMind5Star Sweet summer child…

Happy late birthday!❤

@@ImSugarDuhty!

Rly me too

Happy birthday!

Cool but nobody asked you

There's an example above of a creator saying his own music was copyright struck by CDBaby and it took him years to get it dealt with and he lost all the revenue. So no, CDBaby are part of the problem not the solution.

I think that even if you just hum/whistle some artists song and post it, you can be copyrighted. Music copyright is broken into the score or notes and the instruments. So playing someone elses music even on your instrument is copyright. Playing someone elses cover of a no longer copyrighted piece is still copyright infringement. For example classical Bach is not copyright due to the composition being over 100 years old, but if you record and post an orchestra playing it, then their rendition of the piece IS copyright. You CAN play Bach on your instrument(s) copyright free as long as it is your own arrangement.

now that's what I call the best move

@@EliseEcklund ❤️

​@@EliseEcklund yeah! Like you GO girl! It's about time you launched your career as a songwriter -- and you have plenty of spunk and sass to do it -- no doubt about it!

Once a livesteam gamer from New Zealand that I sometimes followed said he was thinking about doing a Fallout 4 series. His channel has all of his old livestream VODs from gaming sessions with other games, but there is nothing new to be seen on his RU-vid channel for several months. Maybe he suddenly got tired of gaming, but more likely he got into some sort of copyright trouble. TheFallout 4 videogame a lot of music from more than 50 years ago, but music copyright lasts for about 100 years, so if the music companies want to, they probably have ways in case of music copyright violations to freeze a RU-vid channel for a very long time without actually making the RU-vid channel and its old content actually vanish.

Dang

I used to make original sample loops and licensed them as public domain. They ended up in some mainstream music, then I got a copyright claim against my own creations. That's when I gave up.

Yes I agree that parody is fair use, but if I try to dispute it there's a good chance I would lose because it's decided by the copyright owner and of course they're going to decide in their favor. And if I dispute I do believe there is a chance they could copyright strike me if they don't like the fact that I disputed, but I might be wrong.

thank you!

Me too , I enjoy her videos as much as eating $#!T or as much as running out of water in the Sahara Desert or as much as getting kicked in the Nutz by a girl with combat boots.

sounds about right

@@EliseEcklund wdym (thanks for responding to my comment😊 )

​@@Time_for_adamit's quite obvious what she means and she is sarcastic as she is 110 % of the time

they just might

yeah there is definitely the argument of fair use for parodies and covers because I'm reinventing the song. But sadly the system doesn't really care to take fair use into mind and they can still claim 100% of revenue if they want.

@@EliseEcklund I've noticed several instances in which some music channels just change one or two notes in the melody -- sounds a li'l dorky, but I wonder if that gets them a pass.

i was first

@@omg_joachimyt Cool

Lamp 😢

She likes half of the comments wtf is she reading them all ? I really hope that she doesn't read mine hahahahaha then again she probably likes to be trolled since she loves trolling so much.

😆

Now put them in your azz

What do you like about her exactly ?

@@Solonas-gv8ib She's funny and makes good, interesting videos. Why, do you not like her?

@@PeppaCanRoastU Well... Depends how you define "funny" because most of her videos are really dumb as hell. I guess some people with low standards and bad sense of humour will laugh with them though yes ? The only time I laughed with one of her videos was when she showed a picture of her and her husband and said if you need clarification that's my husband and that's me. Which is something I would say. Like I would see a picture with a man wearing a blue shit together with a black dog and I would say "Are you the one wearing black or the one wearing blue ?" Hahahahaha sounds like that she copied my joke. I just don't like that her videos are such bad troll videos and yet she has almost 5 million followers wth ?!

@@PeppaCanRoastU Btw I meant to say "blue shirt" ... Hahahahaha this has happened before I hate it when I type "shirt" wrong...

@@Solonas-gv8ib LOL

Ong

yea its mostly kids looking for attention, its even funnier when they start arguing with eachother.

Fr

You combat them by saying “Blue shell.”

Frr

i love that happy birthday is public domain

@@EliseEcklund Crazy to think the music industry thought it made good business sense to have legal teams consider copyright litigation for singing happy birthday.... facepalm

@@EliseEcklund and not to mention, you could sing happy birthday while dressed as Steamboat Willie Mickey

Shut up

She has a Tik Tok?!!

nobody came from tiktok

shut up

I didn’t even know she had TikTok

For sure, I could always get another job! But it also stinks to see huge corporations taking advantage of individuals. This is a problem far beyond just myself so I think it's important to talk about it.

@@EliseEcklund yeah, that's true. Anyway, thanks for the heart. Love your channel