All Quiet on the Western Front vs. The Storm of Steel | Polandball/Countryball Literature & History 

I think storm of steel is better because it’s not fiction, it’s the experience of an man who wanted to feel and experience that what he had to go through. Also I think its more important to understand what the veterans had to go through and not to say all was bad. Also when I read about such wars I prefer historical over fiction because it’s history and the 1. World war is the really the first war my country fought in as a united country. (Yes I am German) May all soldiers Rest In Peace.

And also I am probably going to read both books

Last Summer I read both books and tried to compare them, though not as well as you have done. I prefer Storm of Steel (though the version I read was a later one translater to my native language) because it is non-fiction and displays the war pretty much how Jünger experienced it: bravery, surrender, comeradery, despair, hope and destruction. Though Jünger does seem to be a one-of-a-kind soldier, his accounts offer a better opportunity for the reader to interpret the book, the war and the author in his own way than All Quiet, where the author's message "the war was not worth it" is clearly understood. I can highly recommend: Thomas Dinesen's: "No Man's Land" (In English: Merry Hell!: A Dane with the Canadians.) which are his memoirs from the war. He writes in the same raw style as Jünger does, about his journey from Danish Civillian to a highly decorated soldier in the Canadian Army. The book covers many of the same subjects as Storm of Steel, but shows the war from the side of the Entente; a man who really, really wants to join the war.

All Quiet on the Western Front fucking broke me. It is the book that turned me into a staunch pacifist. Oh my god, the ending.

I've personally enjoyed and appreciated Junger's Eumeswill and Glass bees so, in a way, I'm going counter chronologically and the great war is coming soon-ish. From what I've read of his later years I'm kind of cheering for his work tho I reckon his younger books might have some kind of, I don't know, "Wagnerian heroic bloodlust and drama" (does it make sense?) which I understand but feel is, if even slightly, over simplistic. I mean, the Kaiserschlacht was the swansong of the Imperial German Army and I don't think it could have really been "the decisive battle/offensive to win the war", but hey, it's just my opinion and I'm not an expert.

Reunification was probably one of the best days of his life.

@@jekabsojarsulskis9740 I don't think so. As he himself said the worst day of his life was the day WW1 was lost. He wasn't a fan of the states that came after the German Empire (although he wasn't really a monarchist, he valued tradition and the German Identity)

@@lorddodge2867 I think it has more to do with the fact, that after ww2 many people saw how close he was to a Nazi and didn't want anything to do with him

@@dimitriosdrossidis9633 ?

@@dimitriosdrossidis9633 "He was close to a nazi" Are you dilusional? He hated the nazis, as did a majority of the nationalist and prussian officers, in fact here are some quotes from the wiki: "As a famous war hero and prominent nationalist critic of the Weimar Republic, the ascendant Nazi Party (NSDAP) courted Jünger as a natural ally, but Jünger rejected such advances. When Jünger moved to Berlin in 1927, he rejected an offer of a seat in the Reichstag for the NSDAP. In 1930, he openly denounced Hitler's suppression of the Rural People's Movement.[14] In the 22 October 1932 edition of Völkischer Beobachter, the article "Das endlose dialektische Gespräch" ("the never-ending dialectical debate") attacked Jünger for his rejection of the "blood and soil" doctrine, accusing him of being an "intellectualist" and a liberal.[15] Jünger again refused a seat offered to him in the Reichstag following the Nazi Party's ascension to power in January 1933, and he refused the invitation to head the German Academy of Literature (Die deutsche Akademie der Dichtung)." "He and his brother Friedrich Georg quit the "Traditionsverein der 73er" (veteran's organization of the Hanoverian regiment they had served during World War I) when its Jewish members were expelled." "Jünger appears on the fringes of the Stauffenberg bomb plot. He was clearly an inspiration to anti-Nazi conservatives in the German Army,[20] and while in Paris he was close to the old, mostly Prussian, officers who carried out the assassination attempt against Hitler."

yeah honestly i knew nothing about all quiet on the western front before i read it. I thought the whole thing was a first hand account just published under a different name. that last bit shocked me

@@finnISHY no i meant storm of steel when he lets the british guy lives

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@@thedeadwarrior1828 weird, I thought he killed the British guy. It fits so much more

@@alfredredl326 Why? A heavily wounded enemy is hardly a threat... and it shows both Ernst' character and shows something about the nature of war. The thing that makes it both utterly horrible and strangely appealing, which perfectly describes mankind's strange fascination with war and why we can seemingly never leave it behind us. As he jumps in there, he is a beast, a savage, an unfeeling killing machine, driven on by instinct, adrenaline, propelled onwards by a primal feeling of conflict and triumphm, the ultimate reaffirmation of his worth and his justification to exist, as he's filled by a sense of purpose, duty and being part of something much greater than himself, he is bloodthirst and rage incarnate... the true chaos of war enveloped him. And yet, as he is given time to reconsider, to think, to feel beyond the manic beast that slumbers deep within every man, he is able to reasoning prevail... what threat is that man to him? He's clearly defeated, their lines overrun, most likely bound to be captured and taken prisoner. In a conflict to determine the destiny of nations it is about breaking the enemy's resistance... not to nessecarily erradicate the enemy and kill everyone who oposes you. It is first and foremost a conflict of will and only then a conflict of resources. And that is the calculating, cold and reasonable aspect of war. War for all intents and purposes is a great catalyst in human history and an accellerator of many things, lots of progress is made in science and also in social norms and revolutions in that regard... women's rights would have NEVER gained as much traction as they did in the wake of WW1 when women were actively working in the factories and as field nurses in numbers unseen before. Medicine also tends to progress rapidly in the course of war... All of this... means that War isnt all bad, despite it's terrible nature... it says something about human nature, the innate ugliness and the inner beast of human experience and that in all likelihood it will always be a shadow upon our heel. Food for thought.

the two moods

*Bludgeoned that British guy. Jünger doesn’t see many French soldiers in his account.

Too accurate lmao

Storm of Steel emphasizes the moment. All Quiet is reminiscing on the horrors of the past

Jünger actually liked France and hated to see its villages being destroyed.

the man saw the rise and fall of 4 German states imagine that

he did'nt just witness he fought in both

He witnessed germany at its peak and then now. Sad to think about seeing your nation get crippled like that

@@jensjensen9035 nah current germany is ok

@@drnota472 In no way whatsoever is modern Germany ok

The cause of these differences might lay in the fact, that Remarque wrote most of his novel with the help and stories told him by fellow comrades. Remarque served like only a couple of weeks at the actual frontline, whereas Jünger had not only first hand experiences - he accomplished really crazy recon-missions himself and saved his brother on the battlefield -, but was stationed at the direct frontline for months if not years.

A lot of German war memoirs are extremely punctual and to-the-point like that. Rudel's Stuka Pilot is another good example, it's very much "This happened, this happened, that happened, it made me feel this way, then this other thing happened..."

@@MalikCarr Same with Infantry Attacks by Rommel. But strangely there is actually a sense of poetry and beauty in a lot of these works as well imbetween the rationality.

The meticulous way of describing things shines bright in his books about insect hunting or his Lsd trips. Even in his political essay "Der Waldgang" he is quite on point in describing political situations and changes. His conclusion on the other hand is nebulous and elitist as it can be.

@Streigl problem?

You have a point

You're actually right. wow

Yeah, but Erich Maria was describing his experience, he was even called Paul when he was at war, but then he changed his name, and called his protagonist Paul. Ernst was showing a cool dude that knows how to fight and Erich was showing a kid at war

@@BlackChungaChanga except that Remarque fought for about a month before being wounded and never seeing combat again. All Quiet is based some on his own experience, but is largely based off various experiences of people he knew, all woven together into a fictional story. My point is they both went in young and naive, Jünger saw far more of the horrors of war and came out significantly more optimistic about the whole affair. It shows an interesting difference in personalities.

@@BlackChungaChanga Junger developed into that "cool dude" throughout the book. He was like 18 or 19 when he joined. He then rapid went on to be commissioned as an officer and ended up winning a 1st class iron cross and the Pour le Mérite (highest award for Germans at the time, very rare; also awarded to The Red Baron). Truly a meteoric military career.

Not to mention, Storm of Steel is also incomplete. Ernst Junger wrote a massive war diary during WW1, and Storm of Steel only captured a small part of his war experience. For instance, when the video at 2:58 says that Ernst Junger did not talk about sex in his book, his unedited war diary actually talked about his romantic liaison with a local French woman and his constant sexual urges. Luckily, his unedited war diary was just published in Germany a few years ago. Sadly however, it has not been translated to English yet.

@Koshiro2k3 I'm intrigued, any recommendations for some of his later works?

@@mistasomen Pain is a good one. It’s a philosophical work.

@@cameron4562 thanks for the tip. Weird, can't find it in German, only in English.

@@mistasomen The Forest Passage

@Pinko Slink Youre a fool if you think war is good, but there is a case of it being glorious, or at least beautiful in a morbid way.

@Pinko SlinkIt'd be funny if you're commenting this as a westerner since that is how the west fights its wars these days.

@@fenixman2 war itself is neutral

@@abnerdoon4902 The West can fight this way because they curbstomped your ancestors in any other way before lol

@brandovlogs yes it is because war can be waged for any reason under the sun war itself is neutral

Is it fine if i do the same but from finland

@@skullyboi1215 sure, but only because you fucked up Stalin during the Winter War.

same, from egypt ❤️❤️

ave cumpa!!! so contento di trova n altro italico com a me qua!!!

Ah un uomo di cultura vedo

He was Just a human so still was scared, He didnt Like war but He liked the experiences.

😂😂😂

Lmao imagine Remarque struggling to read some sort of eldritch horror fantasy text, while Junger reads it just fine as if its any other foreign language.

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**Proceeds to commit war crimes without consequences**

Nope. The picture was of his family. Junger could see that the soldiers face matched the guy in the photo.

@@Cooldude-ko7ps how do you know?

@@unpapelcascaron7463 I don’t. Just a reasonable assumption

It seems like you never got outside or you simply think that most Englishman look similar, listen to mate plastic surgery is popular in Asian countries but not in England that much maybe but still in that time people don't do it...

The British soldier that spared Hitler: 0_0

Ok that got me to cry a little bit

I dont remember where i read It but Jünger also spared Tolkien.

@@axelgamer5342What? No? How would anyone even know who it was? The chances of that are incredibly small

@@Rokaize "also",, not that specific soldier.

Anglo-Zanzibar war: wait we were at war??🤔

Nichts neues im Westen

@@crowmaster221 unt stahlgwitter

@@crowmaster221 Im Westen nichts Neues

@@hedgeknight3194 In Stahlgewittern

Nichtsstahl westerngewittern im

It is interesting how both have their reasons and is shaped by different kinds of people but it is weird how it isn't looked at more often in literature or works of fiction.

War is when a society is brought to its breaking point. It's when it develops fastest and is essentially an accelerated process of natural selection. Technology, culture, the economy all change to meet the existential challenge that war is, or they break. It's not just good for personal development, but also for societal development.

@@Myname-cb9ru ...You do know that the Darwinian line of thinking led to the very preventable outbreak of WWI partially, right? Especially in Germany, with unsubstantiated fears that Germany "needed to solidify its place as a world power" rather than "slowly decline", when in fact Germany's constant attempts to expand its empire and its influence drove Britain and France away from friendly relations with Germany. Pre-WWI, German society was developing well economically, and it's commonly believed that a constitutional monarchy would have occurred naturally in Germany given the demands of its Social Democratic Party and Liberal Party, meaning its political situation was also relatively stable (despite divides being present). To deem war an "accelerated process of natural selection" is to oversimplify war. Prussian military theorist Carl von Clausewitz summarized it succinctly: "War is a continuation of politics by other means". This is how most forms of war are typically waged, as an advancement of ideals or goals that does not typically result in the complete annihilation of one side. War does not always act as a definitive "end all be all", but what you're looking for in your definition is when a war becomes a TOTAL WAR, the commitment of all resources available to a society along with the civilian population. Total war - unlike any other form of war - is staking the foundations of a society on a conflict they believe to be imperative. This was precisely the nature of WWI and precisely the reason why Germany losing this war led to massive societal upheaval in the Interwar period.

Then Russo-Ukrainian war says otherwise. Do not be naive about human nature

​@brandovlogs they aren't inherently evil.

1st sentence: we defended untill the british had evacuated only then did we surrender... ..which was 10 minutes

@@Blitzozs we said WW1.

@@Blitzozs The door is that way

@@Blitzozs But then the British saved us later so we could go back to maman et papa

Yooo man i thought to myself "where i hear that reference before" but now i remember ty mate

Yeah

We can't expect god to do all the work

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What an awful, but very imperial German kind of moral.

@@olenickel6013 Awful? why.

Its amazing how touching the book is considering that it is hardly more than an impartial recollection of events.

In the latter battle scenes he vividly illustrates how the British force moving on them was better equipped, more artillery etc and that the situation was pretty hopeless

@@leafboy3967 Awful because he is a pacifist, he would rather be chained and enslaved rather than fight for the freedom and glory of his own nation.

Strange, since it's a german book on a world war

Being Polska is suffering.....

@@russiasgreatestspinmachine4096 polska was under austrian german and russian opression/rule

@@finnishboo4192 i know, that's why i said it

'German book? So Germany is much suffering? Polksa cannot hide tears of joy, is so movings.'

Remarque=gigavirgin

@@rekoken2911 why?

@@rekoken2911 I believe Remarque was totally in the right to hold the views he had. Ernst Junger was just something else

@@leafboy3967 sure but I've heard enough "waaaa war bad people die very sad i go cry" stories, they're done to death

@@rekoken2911 because that's exactly what war is about

We push, they push, and sometimes we push so hard the clouds begin to part and show us the world beyond the war. Just out of reach.

Yes, I have only read the 5th edition but throughout the book I cant think of a single time he talks about a a other person in a negative way. In one of his first encounters with British solders he mentions how impressed he was at their bravery.

@@leafboy3967True. He’s like the ultimate “honorable” warrior archetype. He never killed out of hatred or to just cause pain. He’s just doing his job.

There is another instant where the German and British trench sections begin to flood, each side comes face to face then begins to share supplies like cigarettes. They enjoy themselves until the rain clears enough for another trench section to open fire on them. Each side rushes back to their trenches, apologizing to the other.

i think that actually provides an interesting contrast and show the different experience they both had, though i think junger became slightly disturbed and probably brainwashed with propaganda i still appreciate his work as much as remarque’s.

It makes a lot more sense when you consider the source material. All Quiet is a distillation of many shitty and soul-crushing experiences while Storm is a narrative of one man's highs and lows across the war.

all quite on the western front is a work of ficiton which resulted from a collection of many soliders accounts. It also represents the majority of german soldiers more than jungers book, since most of the german soldiers were conscripted/joined because of blind nationalism, peer pressure or naivity regarding war. Jungers book probably represents better the view of a professional soldier

@@Daniel-jm7ts also I think when you were talking about the school boys that were enlisted. See Germany didn't do a full conscription of every fighting age man they did it later in the war these were barely trained conscripts with barely one month of training that doesn't create soldier that creates cannon fodder

It's actually fascinating to see how Jünger was one of the least affected by the propaganda. Jünger was a nationalist but he wasn't really enthralled by his country's propaganda, he had his own idea of nationalism. As a result of this, he didn't fall for the nazi's propaganda during their rise and during WW2. Ernst Jünger was an interesting man to say the least.

That's pretty interesting. It also implies Storm of Steel isn't merely propaganda, but a "warts and all" tale of conflict.

@@nathanseper8738Have you read it? It isn’t propaganda. It’s actually pretty candid. He comments on a lot of his own mistakes and failings in the book. He gets some of his own men killed since he’s in a leadership position. And he openly admits it. He has a rollercoaster of emotions throughout the book from extreme excitement and adrenaline from close quarters violence. To breaking down and crying over the loss of his men. It’s a really wild and fascinating book.

​@@Rokaizethats why i prefer jungers, its the full range of emojions a professional soldier could exp in ww1. Plus its not fiction

Thats discrediting the talent and meaning behind storm of steal

I think he's referring to the book not the movie, Starship Troopers the book is actually read in military academies. Plenty of Marine officers I have met read it religiously.

Evrybody and their mothers: all there is, is All Quiet on the Western Front Callmeezikiel: No, there is another. Me: you mean there is another side to the story that’s been out for 100 years that nobody’s told me about?

@@JanitorScruffy That explains a lot.

@@JanitorScruffy To be honest starship troopers the book is if nothing else, interesting philosophy wise, however it is horrible in how its combat and emotional moments read, unlike Storm of Steel where both of those are described far more interestingly

"Der Weg zurück" is also connected to All Quiet on the Western Front, as the main character knew the protagonist of the first book.

@@ChipitaDraws Also some minor characters as Tjaden appear in both books.

The protagonist there is called Ernst too

Really best to read both back to back

cool it is janovich!

I would have said the same

@@deviousalemanni4235 And honestly you would've earned it.

Keep in mind the book where the person thrived was non fiction and the other was fiction.

@@kadenvolan3557 Also keep in mind the only thing that's really fiction in the books is that the main character died, Almost all the rest of it was the writers own experiences. Hell he even mentioned all the side effects of PTSD when no one knew it existed. (Back then it was called shell shock Which they believed was caused because of a lack of moral fiber. and even that was only discovered in 1915).

@@matthewmac5787 Well, some people suffer from war more than others. It can be seen even in modern military service: some people fool around and have fun while others have mental breakdown because it's so different to civillian life

@@kadenvolan3557 You cannot really believe that most soldiers of WWI "thrived" in it. How detached from every singe source of soldiers and the gruesome reality of war can one be?

​@@hobbylostv5418Ernst certainly did and wrote a book about it.

It is a really good book and worth the read but finding the right version is hard

@@burrellwilliams2658 can you recommend me a English translation?

Along with the rise and fall of so many other things as well.

Junger experienced far more of the war than Remarque. Remarque spent something like 6 weeks in the trenches. Junger, with several medical leaves out of being wounded and such, fought from late 1914(or was it early 1915) to late 1918, he saw most of the war.

Maybe because it was a real account where all quiet on the western front was written by a guy who didn’t even spend a full month in combat

@@microchip9982 not saying that it is, but Jünger spent over 3 years in combat and saw some of the worst fighting of the war. Remarque experienced two weeks in a reserve trench before being wounded by shrapnel yet he is qualified to write a fiction on the war?

I think schools don’t include it because of its view on war and conflict.

Because Storm of Steel was written by an actual warrior and a soldier.

He really does but i don't think any movie could do him justice. In Storms of Steel especially where the most remarkable aspect is its lack of an agenda would not be sustained in a film.

@@leafboy3967 So a miniseries?

​@@CalvinNoire There does exist a miniseries called 14 diaries of the great war. it is very well worth the watch , indie production

@@gudmundurThor96Nr2 Thank you for giving me gold.

Would it be too much of a pun to say that only that quote has hammered home the feeling, for me?

Just read this tonight before I looked up this video. Definitely stuck with me immediately as a remarkable description of what it must’ve been like. Probably my single favorite passage from the book thus far, so it’s cool to see it quoted here. It’s the kind of thing that gets overlooked so often because Jünger spends less time dwelling on the horrors, but you can clearly see in this and other excerpts the effect the war has on a person.

Sounds like brainwashing.

@ambiguitiy1207 it is

@@ambiguitiy1207 It's not

​@@ambiguitiy1207 it's not

​@@ambiguitiy1207lol no. As I was reading all quiet, I read "the first and the last" at the same time. What about german school is brainwashing?

How can you incorrectly write the name Ernst Jünger? @Jeremiah Grigsby: YES

Earnst Yunger? Picture me shocked by your butchering of his name

Junger just accepted that war was an aspect of who humans are. "War as an Inner Experience" is another great book by him. More of the philosophy, but good stuff.

I would say both

Two weeks at the front is plenty enough time to change someone and their perspective on life. Not only that, but Remarque interviewed other soldiers and his book is also inspired by those experiences. The two authors aren’t in competition for who “truly” experienced war, it’s their messages on war that are. You clearly favor Junger’s “test of civilizations” view, which is cringe.

​@@firebird4491nope, it's not. Especially when he was far away from the actual Frontline and never actually saw direct combat. You clearly favor Chomsky's appeasement which is cringeworthy.

@11 No? Really? You're willing to say that two weeks at the front isn't enough time to change someone? You think if you spent two weeks in a trench in Ukraine you wouldn't change at all? Hell, did you even read Storm of Steel? I have no idea why you would exclusively associate a basic anti-war perspective with Noam Chomsky. Also, your claims on Remarque's war experience are inconsistent with the facts that he was seriously wounded from shrapnel, experienced war trauma, and claimed to have taken a lot of inspiration for his book from his time in the war. He didn't have to be in the front trenches for this to be valid.

@@firebird4491 yes he did. Not every experience in war is comparable at all, you cannot compare the life of a military cook or repairman at a factory faraway from the frontline to that of the special forces or a tank crew, and being a solider in general takes time, and it requires actual experience. He didn’t get to see the meat of it and it shows because it proliferates through his lack of understanding on how trenches and life in them worked. The good thing about Junger was that he was more willing to show you other faces of trench warfare, not just all the misery and despair, but also change and opportunity aswell as innovation. He cites alot of grenade use in combat aswell as pointed out how important trench raids were, and that it wasn’t just oh charge into enemy machine gun with no foresight like Disney’s lemmings (funfact, lemmings aren’t actually that stupid and neither were ww1 commanders) Yes he did, otherwise he would’ve been reliant on here-say from other people and groups. Sure you probably grew up thinking that this was the lost generation and that it swore them off war but lest we forget that among this generation were people like ADOLF HITLER, who had seen more of the frontline as a scout and corporal, hence why prior to becoming fuhrer, he was known as the bavarian corporal.

Hell them while getting shelled and not being able to fight back

Ah yes, the old lie

It also has to do with I suppose the perspectives of each, one is a warrior poet made to fight, and the other is a scared young boy, drafted into a war he barely understands and is watching his friends die around him.

I feel like its pro-war lite. He doesnt actively encourage it, but he does speak positive of war. I feel like the most nuanced view of war is the Big Red One. The Allies are clearly the good guys(because they're not the ones with concentration camps) but it ultimately tries to tell the story of soldiers, without a concern of pro/anti-war. It's why I hate the reputation Saving Private Ryan has gotten. I think its rating is well deserved, but the reasonings are my main problem. Its regarded as a anti-war film, but it gives us a reason to think this part of war is good. That and after this, every war film or TV show is saturated since then. The Big Red One was more colorful and it still got its message across. The best anti-war films are Grave of the Fireflies, Gojira, and Come and See. They show the human cost where it's more evident: in the civilians. There is rarely, if any, epic battles. If there are moments or scenes of battle or spectacle, it's not portrayed as fun. The most spectacular parts of Grave of the Fireflies is seeing a Japanese town get firebomb; the most spectacular scene in Gojira is Tokyo being incinerated by a walking behemoth while the Japanese can only watch helplessly, after already getting nuked twice barely a decade prior; and the most spectacular scene of Come and See is seeing a SS unit locking Belarussians in a house, before executing them with grenades, guns, and incendiary weapons, while they raped teenagers to the point of blood and possing with children as if they were some adversary. You never see a cool battle, it just cuts to later, where they were captured offscreen, and one of them spouts a horrifying speech of what the Axis is doing here, before being gunned down by the villagers (as the partisans wanted to burned them). All the while, a 14 year old boy expietences horrors that cause him to lose his youth.

@@re1010 The book is from WW1, their are no good guys or bad guys in this war. I do understand what you say. Even in WW2 you had German soldiers that were good guys fighting. I think movies are shifting more to this. German soldiers showing emotions, the SS are still portrayed as cartoons tho. I don not believe every SS man was evil too. You speak of the horrors of war on civilians also, Ernst does speak of that, of the french girl he met. The house later being destroyed. Generals ruling as kings over villages. For the village later be totally destroyed. Ernst tells it like it is and does not force an anti-war message on you. He tells the story of how his brother almost died. He likes the war because it fascinating, it is a whole massive organization moving in action against an equally large organization. And these 2 titans clash with eachother. He accepts that and he overcomes the struggle of the soldiers, he becomes death. He accepts his duty. He talks so much of the feelings you get when charging. Like the whole mass of soldiers are moving like 1 body, a primal feeling, everybody knowing what to do. Everybody knowing their duty and accepting their fate. That is what fascinates them. Was it horrifying? absolutely. But the soldiers overcame that. That is what he likes about war. It is not he is is pro war. It is not that he likes what happens to the villages, to his fellow soldiers and when he had to kill. He does not like that. It was the hive mind mentality that was so special to him, the brotherhood, the bravery. If Storm of Steel would made in a film, it would look like your movie, the big red one. The struggle of the soldiers. I have not found a better war experience book yet.

Pick up "War as an Inner Experience". It's one of his philosophical works.

@@microchip9982 because they didn't have the same war beforehand

@@microchip9982 They like small, controlled wars that keep any threats to their power preoccupied. Major wars that threaten the stability of the status quo is what they don't want.

"only a month at the front"

@@microchip9982 ask a divorced man if he had thought he would enjoy the process of getting divorced. Then ask him why he got divorced.

You wrote exacly what i was thinking

Theres going to be a new one?! Now im excited

Can't imagine what a Storm of Steel movie would look like

Anything that doesn’t wholly condemn war is seen as “pro-war” now. “War” as a concept (suffering) is a necessary and inevitable aspect of the human condition, elevated to a national level, whether you want to condemn it in its entirety or accept it is up to you. Whatever moral judgements you ascribe to it after are secondary.

Its an amazing book.

It depends. For example, The war of the triple alliance left Paraguay in such a decayed state that to this day it hasn't reached the potential it one had.

@@lonelyheartproductions5237 i think you failed to find what he ACTUALLY meant by progresses,Progressing does not always be good,Or even mean it'll have a good outcome,He meant this is how a nation will continue its path,Whether it exists or does not,It simply must follow what is the destiny of all nations

the UwU legacy will be eternal

The UwU if UwUs.

Really such a shame we germans have nothing on that reference material in school. All about the 2 WW but not WW1.

@@saxogrammatikus4195 auf den Gymnasialzweig in der 10 war es bei meiner Gesamtschule im Deutschunterricht Pflichtlektüre

@@deathtrooper7760 Aber nicht in Real oder Hauptschule wahrscheinlich auch nur in deinem Bundesland.

@@saxogrammatikus4195 nur im gym leider was eine Schande ist weil viele der gymies es nicht wertschätzten und ein paar meiner mates von real hätten es zu gerne im Deutschunterricht behandelt.

You have a shtty government then in Slovakia who wants to make your youth weak. Replace them and put them down.

I recommend Storm of Steel, if only for its presentation of a differing perspective of the German war effort.

But wasn't Storm of Steel also the reality? It is a first hand account.

@@Hypogean7 both books were true but from the perspective of two different sides. Remarque hated the war while Ernst saw it as... something more complicated and something that brought progress to humanity and also the individual. So not really bad. You could make the point he glorified war

@@Hypogean7 He probably are talking about the sentiment about the books, now everyone knows what war lead germany into, the depressive and hopeless of all quiet cause much more impact, since the "good" things about war are talking in storm of steel ended bringing much more suffering, but if germany have won, those "good" things will be much more excarcebated, since they led germany to more greatness.

that's really well put

Hey Ernst, are you planning on writing another book?

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I hear the guy who wrote All quite and the western front was in the war for a few months. While Junger was there from beginning to end and almost died a few times. So yeah Junger is probably a bit more 'realistic'

@@easy8690 Yeah. Remarque served from 12 June 1917 - 31 July 1917. Junger served from early 1915 all the way through to the end bar the times when he was wounded and recovering. Storm of Steel was also based on Jungers own experiences where as All Quiet was a work of fiction.

But most average soldier would relate to all quiet rather than storm of steel so I would stay all quiet is more realistic

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