olden days where ancilot was a thing (ancile energy shield with tarans), a magnum rhino can literally just destroy one of the lancelot's front phyical shield. once that's done, the rhino drops the shields and mag dumps the lancelot with tarans. during this skirmish, the rhino shield can survive a full mag of tarans
@@wrleonardo oh man yesss. Dude was hella fast when it used its ability (in old wwr standards). The energy shield it had was only strong enough just so stray physical shots wouldn't deplete its hp, long enough for carnage to be in knifefight range of its target. And high chance that target is toast no matter how high its hp was at knifefight range. I even bought the tiger skin for carnage, cause I literally played like a predator. Just lurking behind the scenes, and at the moment they least expect, jumps out of hiding and rushes in. But at the same time it can't survive out in the open, so, like a tiger, needs tall grass to avoid being seen and destroyed.
@@MinhQuangNguyen-og4mz Mmh, well I see the Shell only good as a counter to energy weapons. Curies are so popular nowadays, and their turrets deal kinetic damage, destroying the shields very fast.
I was about to say great tierlist exept the scorpion cuz its clearly a D tier and then u f* up ur tierlist saying scorpion and fenrir are better than ocho curie and shenlou also the ophion was killed but its still a strong robot (after 9.8 it'll sucks) but appart from the T4 tierlist its a decent tierlist u made
If you didn't skip the beginning, I literally said "The robot's balance has an effect in the ranking" meaning if the balance is screwed up, like with ocho the case is, it's not good. And what comes to Ophion, well it's just the dampers that make it strong, not the robot itself being really good, because after the dampers get fully killed, nobody will use the Ophion anymore because not even the built-in weapon deals a lot of damage. My most viral video is exactly about the scorpion countering all meta bots, including ophions and ochos, and like I said, there's no better counter than attacking when the enemy has just used their ability.
Whaaat? You put shell the lowest? Oh man, if you could just see my gameplay in champion league, I made video but it was taken down because of music in it. It's strong bot, you have to try my setup. And play ot tew time ms to get used to it, you'll see the power of shell. It should be at least B or or A, also angler is weak and slow but mine setup gives it speed and hp. But requires different play style than before. Wish could show you 😊
I agree with the weak force field thing. Same with Nether’s. They nerfed Nether’s only source of protection into the dirt. Now if any sniper or a Dagon locks onto it, it is as good as dead.
I really wish people would talk about hellburner more, and as a hellburner user i agree with the rank and reason, it needs the light to be a medium but its a really good beacon runner and damage dealer.
@@wrleonardo that’s the thing, you should lvl hell burner up, and give it an ecu and ancile, Max all that and you have yourself the ultimate enemy line breaker, just use the ability for damage will keeping yourself alive with the ancile+ecu!!!
Seeing this, most of what it is is understandable, but I gotta be honest, Ochokochi doesnt deserve higher than a C because its often used unfairly. And you said it, its 'overpowered.' I also use most of the poorly ranked robots quite commonly and have gotten some great moments with them, in this case being Hover and Invader. But i like the opinions on all of them! Thanks for this.
You really seem to understand my point here which I absolutely do respect! I've gotten hundreds of comments about like "Shenlou should've been S because it's so powerful, same as ocho and curie"
Lol I own an Mk3 fenrir with maxed out modules (the right ones ofc), pilot and weapons…im currently and have been in champions league for quite a while. Sorry to tell you bud but the fenrir gets decimated by absolutely everything now and not even worth healing and wasting power cells. I’d say it’s still a B tier tho.
@@wrleonardo yeah and literally in every single match I play there’s always 2-3 guys using them and there’s really no point in playing fenrir currently. It’s slow and without healing it’s weak
@@wrleonardo Good. However you don’t see many WR RU-vidrs using the fenrir or these older bots unless they have the broken drones that make them op. Try being a F2P and using a fenrir with a nebula😂
Yeah, I might want to make a tier list of titans. It's going to be much faster, so it won't take two weeks to make like this one did 😅 I'll actually make a poll rq
Tier 1 is great i agree with it but the s tier on it i think A tier Tier 2 great nothing wrong with it Tier 3 some robots i think should be higher or lower but great but Tier 4 everything is messed up i dont agree with it but i like the video tho
Did you read literally the first slide where I explained the ranking criteria? Don't worry, you aren't the first one to say about this. TL; DR: being overpowered means they will get nefed eventually, so not good long term. That's why it reduces points. Also new meta stuff are practically impossible to get f2p, so it also reduces points. It'd be taken for granted that all new stuff are the strongest in raw performance, and that'd make a boring list.
I feel like this tier list is more specified for tdm. Scorpion is b tier at max, due to it being fragile, low firepower, and generally cant capture or hold a lot of beacons. u mentioned it urself, saying shenlou is a better version of scorpion, and thats true. Shenlou completely outclasses it, but u decided to put it under scorpion which makes 0 sense to me. Ochokochi is far better than scorpion and on the same level as ravana, with the same firepower but an insane amount of hp and agility, making it great for capturing beacons and holding beacons, which is crucial in beacon rush or domination. in tdm i can see how scorpion outclasses these bots, however if this was a tdm based tier list, fenrir should not be that high. from what ive heard, curie is pretty much meta atm but i dont have a lot to say about this. however i feel it should be at s mainly from how frequent i see it being problems. calling dagon "almost balanced" is an understatement. with the right build you could probably 5 shot a titan ophion is meta rn, arguably the best bot in the game atm. putting this in c tier, the same tier as harpy and hades is crazy
And as you probably saw, I clearly mentioned in the very beginning that balance has an effect in the rating. So overpowered robots will be nerfed in the future, making them less valuable over time.
I think (before you continue, yes. There's some bias as I play Typhon) Typhon deserves either Low B or High C, maybe even mid B. I use him all the time and boy, is he good. His ability shuts down opponents from almost everything (besides shooting). His Aegis shield also aids him in disposing of enemies quickly. He excels when he's paired with full auto weapons for faster dps. (I use Punisher-T, the base weapon, and he is still good.) You can almost win every 1v1 with him as he can go toe-to-toe with any bot (not titans though) with this combo: Blackout 2.0 Go all in This works as you won't need to worry much about your health because of your Aegis shield and full auto weapon. The faster you kill them, the less damage you recieve. Pair him up with a good pilot and you got yourself a powerhouse. That's just my opinion though.
Thanks! You should make one too, you can share your opinion. If you're just planning now, prepare for a lot of work. 84 robots took me 2 weeks to process
Can't like this, as you offended his highness the FENRIR HUNTER aka MERCURY! Jk here's a like for all the work put into this..juat wish the tier screens were a bit longer. I love my Mercury, still the best bot in my Champion League hangar
Hehe glad you liked it 😊 With tier screens, do you mean the screen of all bots in them or the screens for every robot? Btw, believe me or not, but I've never touched mercury 🤫
@wrleonardo ah it's just a minor nitpick..maybe a second more for the final screens with all the robots. Btw I agree with the tier almost completely, best one I've seen yet. And reserving a special tier for OP bots. Love the content
I’ve been playing Fenir. I don’t get all the hype. It is easily countered by pretty much everything, has a very weak shield that most pilots remove anyway, the speed boost is almost unnoticeable, and overall, it is just bad. I have been playing the game for over 2 years, I know what I am doing. I would slap Fenir into D tier. Also, Shenlou is leagues ahead of Scorpion. Shenlou can do three times quickly what Scorpion can only do once. The only added bonus Scorpion has over Shenlou is its built in weapon that hardly does anything anyway. And then, Ratana, another terrible fan favorite. Its main ability is a two charge phase shift that can literally be applied to EVERY SINGLE ROBOT IN THE GAME, so there is no additional tactical use for Ravana. The entire S tier burned the kitchen down with your cooking.
First things first, did you read the criteria? I see you skipped that part and came here crying that the tier list isn't about the strongest bots, and that's because OF COURSE IT'S NOT! Every new robot would be an instant S tier in performance, period. That would be boring, huh? This tier list is about robot value. New bots are strong but they WILL be nerfed, old but gold bots like ravana or scorpion won't. Also yes Fenrir is easy to counter with subduers and what not, but I made this tier list like half a year ago where they didn't exist.
I stopped watching watching when you’ve put Harpy at C! That is one of the most annoying yet one of the best support robots in the game to this day man! You have shield breaker incorporated from the Pilot and you can equip quantum radar and that’s a really deadly combination that not many robots can have equipped on!
@@wrleonardo you can outsmart Crisis/Reapers, and that’s one of the reasons I’ve mentioned quantum radar, I did that many times, you wait for them to shoot at someone else and empty their clip and boom, you use your ability and they’re gone, other times don’t so yeah, fair enough! I was a bit dramatic however ahah, but anyway, I think Harpy should be ranked a little higher still! Regardless, props to you for making this type of “sensitive” content as many people have certain robots to their heart and depending on were you place them it will trigger a certain reaction, like mine in this case lol! Again, props to you and I will subscribe to you if that helps with your goal, whatever that may be! Have a good one! 🙂
Thanks for the kind words! I really tried to make the ranking as objective as possible, and I have played the harpy a lot. I have indeed countered a few crisis' with that, but only when they shoot first some other target. If they don't, well I can't do much from 700m away and reaper bullets on the way. I do still like the robot a lot, and he's in active use on both of my accounts.
Good tierlist man, appreciate it a lot. I love how the rank B for tier 4 robots just isnt there untill the end. My favourit robot is fafnir, i personally think that he is way stronger than fenrir, oh and demeter is f*cking hard to play but fun 👍
Appreciate the efforts! I really like when ppl play non-meta bots just for fun, it brings me hope! A tip for demeter: spawn late and protect titans with it
Man this list is rough, mostly looking at the T4 bot list. How is curie not in S tier when you can literally run it with no weapons and kill titans? And ophion in C tier, whattt? Is this post test server nerf? Even then I think its too low...
As I said (which quite few including you missed) in the beginning of the video, "Balance has an effect in the rating". We know Curie is kind of bugged, and the bugs just make him much stronger than he should be. So, overpowered will cost the S-tier place, because they will be nerfed in the future, and thus be a waste of resources. Valuable robots like Fenrir etc, are not overpowered, so they're not getting nerfed. Meaning you aren't wasting any resources upgrading them instead.
@@wrleonardo I have never heard of a list that reduced the tier of items that are overpowered, I saw the beginning of the video but I didn't know that's what you meant by that... it's a pretty weird way to do a list but oh well. I have other disagreements with the list though, not just the OP bots in low tiers: - Nightingale, Blitz, Shell, Ares, Revenant, Leech, Harpy, Siren, Demeter, Typhon, Behemoth, Lynx, Crisis, and Skryos are all a tier or two too low - Kephri, Hades, Mars, Orochi, and Phantom are a tier or two too high Just my opinion tho
@Adazahi Great to hear your opinions! I decided to make it this way, because literally everyone knows that ocho would be s tier and that stuff, so I decided to make it more interesting like this.
@@wrleonardo I see what you mean. Perhaps it would be better to do two tier lists, one for how balanced things are (too weak, too strong, just right) and then one just for pure power. Also would like to see a list for drones and titans, I find those to be most interesting
@Adazahi Titans at least is on my bucket list, and having just what's the best in terms of power would be just boring, everyone knows the most up to date stuff are powerful
You proven to be mistaken just the moment you put the invader in D class, 750k durability and 100% suppression is no joke, you can't kill it when the amps are charged up + it can easily destroy most of that other upper class bots
It's not 100% suppression, nothing has that. 750k is a lot but Invader has no defense points, unlike the Fenrir who can easily, even way before mk3 reach 900k effective hp even without counting in the healing, overall invader is decent but it lacks firepower
I don't know man my nightingale has been smashing everyone in masters beacons... especially now with the legendary pilot.. I think at least a B with legendary pilot, 50% is a HUGE improvement of the built in weapons rate of fire... It's meant to be played support and max DPS when it lands i like sonic weapons and a Showdown drone on mine... u shud try it. .
Yea but keep in mind the biw is weak and it's not meant to deal damage. In air it's helpless since it can't use the weapons, and because many use quantum radar, it gets shot down easily. The firepower isn't anything mind-blowing, it's the same as scorpion. But nightingale is kind of slow when walking so it can't really utilise the weapons too well. Also nowadays everyone has their own ways of repairing, so nightingale isn't really needed to keep someone in game.
It's not, angler is easily countered by all of the tier S bots. Ravana uses his ability to avoid blind, Fenrir runs away, Scorpion teleports back. Angler has been nerfed so much, that you need all the speed skills and Kestrel to be quick enough to actually hunt enemies. It's just bad after all the nerfs.
@@MrBananas Fenrir isn't very slow, and it can get closer to 1m effective hp, and Ravana can phase shift to counter angler, and scorpion can teleport back. Anglers are weak anyways. They're slow asf and ability damage is crap as well as the whole bot
I can take an erebus any day, their shields are strong but with crisis' shieldbreaker, you don't stand a chance against prismas that drop you in one second.
@@wrleonardo yea it is a weak robot at the hp department but ijust tink it can assist youre team in pikking fights end doing some damige im also just in diamont
@@wrleonardo yes it gets kild real quik it's a real probline when you start in diamand but untul diamiand its a accetebol robod i think dont undurstand but i need legendleg in diamond 3 very balencend
Very Old news, but I’ll never forgive them for what they’ve done to angler. That was the first bot that I dumped money into immediately after buying it, and it’s been nerfed to hell. One day I just logged in loaded up a game and wondered: why is he running so slow when the ability is active, then I went to RU-vid and saw the news 💀
Scorpion is not s, main B or last A and kepri is C, Ravana is A Lynx should be A and shell at least B bcs during lynx meta shell was the best counter by far and a must in meta squads
Appreciate your perspective! My thoughts were with the scorpion, that he's the counter to meta no matter the season. Ravana can still outwait abilities, and basically do the same as scorpion. Khepri is kinda something between b and c, but c was so full already that I decided to balance things a bit. Lynx lacks lots of hp, and the forcefield is honestly weak. Shell is just sorry to say but straight up trash. After the shields are gone, it's a free kill, it's not fast without tons of speed skills and all, the ability isn't too damaging, firepower is weak, and the lynx meta is dead.
My opinion behemoth is as it can fit any role which barely any robots can do because they can fit the support it can fit brawler and it can fit sniper so it is an S tier
Appreciate your opinion but behemoth doesn't belong anywhere near brawling range. It's too slow and defenseless to be a brawler. Sniper is only good option. S tier bots are good at anything, including running beacons. Behemoth could never
I Think blitz deserves at least a D. I think most t4s in general (COUGH COUGH EXCEPT JAEGER COUGH COUGH) are decent. I still see a few extremely high level player, like top of champion league occasionally running a blitz. I might be biased here, seeing as blitz is my favorite robot, but i still dont believe its THAT flimsy. i can survive for a long time in-battle with it.
Yes, but when you consider the league where you use it, with destrier your only option is cossack, but when gepard becomes an option, the Gl. Patton just comes past the gepard in terms of firepower and durability.
I actually have I think all S-tier robots a video made of, but most a tier bots are the current meta bots and that's why I will never get those. Not gonna spend a dime on this game.
ain't no way. Boa is one of the best robots in the game. it's like 2nd highest hp under leo, and was fast, and has one of the fastest turn rates. As a boa player, you don't stand in place, you kite around the target, outrunning the target's turn speed. Weapons today are all targetting pixelpoint accuracy now so turn speeds don't matter. wtf Natasha was one of the worst bots back then lol. It was a placeholder to get enough gold to buy fury for the sniper role. natasha had shit hp in knifefights. edit: I quit the game when Ravana came out, and Tanky shotgun phantoms was ruling the matches. I thought to myself, If I bought Ravana, I would for sure suffer power creep again on the next Robot release. My favorite bots were Mender, Fenrir, Loki,Traditionalist Falcon,Bulwark, and Leech. Had I known that 2 out of the robots I liked plus Ravana would remain relevant today, I would've maybe stuck around. But I bet pilots, drones and whatnot also plays a part to why they are still great.
I also remember considering to quit the game when Ravana came, it was so stupid back then. There was literally nothing we could do to them, since they just had infinite phase shifts.
Generally, what playstyle suits you the best. I recommend picking one from the following: Fenrir, Ravana, Scorpion, Skyros, Khepri. All of them are viable options to play with. I recommend trying them all out in the next test server session, since you can try them for free.
I really disagree with Orochi I have an orochi viper setup and even with the nerf it’s amazing it has decent health it’s fast and that dot effect plus the dot on the vipers helps bring kills extremely quick and easy
I do, since we all know shenlou will get a nerf and be then worse than scorpion. Also scorpion can teleport back at any given moment, shenlou has to wait 30 s
I think it's somewhat what I also think specially on the tier 3 and tier 4 robots. Good thing I have the Ravanna and Scorpion to troll meta bots sometimes haha
@@wrleonardo Btw other channel with much larger audience did almost the exact same thing you did but less explanatory and all mixed up. I linked your content there since yours was the first time I saw a ranking with that table etc. I respect the other channel much, and I hope they recognize your originality and maybe do a commentary on yours rewarding the content you did and mentioning yours.
@@wrleonardoMy first comment with the link to this channel was deleted inmediately... I recreated the post without the link but mentioning the creation 3-4 days before. I hope he does it right by you.
I think the Typhon deserves an A tier,it has a really good fire power ,a decent aegis shield and it can emp,lockdown and supress enemies with a decent cooldown time,with the legendary pilot it gets a 25% damage boost for 5 seconds after the ability,wich makes it a very strong robot
@@wrleonardoIt is in a good level then the health is decent,my mk2 lvl 1 typhon as more than 200k durability,lasting a decent amount of time in the battlefield
True. It really depends on meta season. Also the ability cooldown is long and lt sucks how you can accidentally teleport on the wrong ally and also there's a little delay before teleporting during which the ally might get killed
bro whats that one big yellow robot that has (ithink a tempest or a gray minigun) behind his back has alot of hp can switch weapons from his back? I keep dying to it and i cant recognize it in this video sorry
Do you remember if it flies? Since Fafnir would match your description, since it has four medium weapons, and its ability disables two of them, activates a purple shield, activates an energy weapon, and starts flying.
Hawk was the coolest thing on release and yeah i can agree 100% the damage is so insignificant i find myself dying with it quickly Ao jun as well is fun but weak damage you just die so fast in games now war robots was in its prime in id say 2018-2021 but i still play it its still fun when people arent trying to have an absolutely unkillable robot