The Linus Pauling Institute's Alexander Michels, Ph.D., shares the essentials on vitamin C, including evidence, myths, recommendations, and limitations.
I guess ill share my personal experience with Vitamin C. About 15 years ago I use to drink Emergen C packets every once in awhile knowing they were good for me and tasted very good. I found that if I consumed more then 4 packets a day I would get loose stools ( 4 grams vit c). Then when I started to get sick I took all 4 packets at once but did not get loose stools...I thought what the heck Ill take a few more. I ended up taking 8 packs ( 8 grams) and about an hour later had a loose stool. The amazing thing....my sore throat and tiredness was totally gone within hours! I couldnt wait to get another cold to try this on as crazy as that sounds. The next time my throat started to hurt, fever, aching joints I took 8 packets and again the next morning I was totally fine. I went on to do this many many times , the KEY is taking the vitamin C quickly when you first start to get symptoms, if I waited for a day after my symptoms started for a cold it wouldn't stop it in its tracks...it only seemed to minimize the time I had the cold slightly. I eventually learned what I did was find my bowel tolerance which has been known by many practitioners for decades. Ive told many people about this and I dont think one has ever taken the time to find their bowel tolerance and totally avoid a cold or get over other illnesses. The most common complaint i've heard is that they dont want to get diarrhea....its hard to believe but you can give someone a "gold nugget" and they wont take it because of a temporary discomfort. In reality your health is worth more then all the money in the world.
The sicker you are, the more Vitamin C you need AND are able to tolerate. Andrew Saul, Ph.D and Dr Thomas E. Levy, MD., both say that the bowel tolerance changes when you are well and when you are sick. Andrew Saul had a severe pneumonia once and took 2 gr of Vitamin C every 6 minutes. He reached his bowel tolerance at an extremely high level - 60 grams after three hours... He reversed his pneumonia in 3 hours. Highly recommend Andrew Saul's book _"Vitamin C: The Real Story"_ ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vrXpLrEaQRo.html
@@andym28 research Dr Matthias Rath. Lowering cholesterol and blood oressure is one of the benefit of taking a lot of vitamin c. We modern people do not take enough vitamin c.
Does anyone talk about, vitamin c sources ? We know Ascorbic acid derived from gmo corn is no good, so what are the ideal sources of Ascorbic acid that, these legendary doctors used? Everyone is trying to spread information while skipping the fundamentals, whoever speaks like that is useless.
You showed several vitamin C products on one slide including lipospheric vitamin C, and you said there is no data to support increased bioavailabilty of any of them. Well, you had better generate some data on lipo C because many of us know that for certain diseases it works FAR BETTER than ascorbic acid!!!! (Regular ascorbic acid is a good and important supplement. Lipo C is much more expensive.) Two years ago I had been taking 10-12 grams/day of ascorbic acid/sodium ascorbate for months when I came down with a severe case of shingles. Obviously the ascorbate had little effect. So I obtained liposomal C on day 5. I took about 15 grams/day for TWO DAYS. By the morning of the third day the pain and severe fatigue was GONE -- I was back to business as usual. I'm in my 70s. Most seniors who get shingles are sick for 6 weeks on average. Another point: You said plain ascorbic acid is not readily available. What did you do -- just check to see what your local health food store had on the shelves? Plain ascorbic acid is VERY EASY TO OBTAIN over the internet in various forms -- powder, tablets, capsules.
I used the lipo C product from the Vitamin C Foundation. I comes in a bottle as a thick liquid -- one teaspoon = one gram. As I recall, I took 15 grams all in one dose each day (plus the sodium ascorbate I had already been taking in divided doses). A large dose of lipo is not likely to cause a person diarrhea, unlike regular ascorbic acid or sodium ascorbate.
Lipo Vit C (I never tried IV) is the only thing that has KILLED my chronic bronchitis (the cough from hell) that used to last 4 to 6 weeks within 24 hours. I'll take a box of 30 packets the first 24 hours (about 5 the first hour 3 the second) by the middle of the second box my lungs are dry as a bone. It's a wonderful product.
Yes, I've used Livon Lipo C for other purposes. The Foundation's Lipo C is made with slightly better ingredients and it costs more, but both are good products.
Pure ascorbic acid powder or crystals dissolved in water is just fine. If people wanted to worry about something, they should worry that glucose competes with ascorbic acid absorption. Which is why people on very low to no carb (keto) diets are optimizing their ascorbic acid bioavailability. However, there are other ways to absorb ascorbic acid than the active transport system. Passive systems such as the dehydro-ascorbic work well. The dehydro-ascorbic is moved into a cell and converted back to electron donating ascorbic.
@@maranscandy9350 My guess,[I don't know] would be it's too acidic. Buffered would be better. Sodium ascorbate[buffered with baking soda] etc. There are other types, magnesium ascorbate, potassium, etc.
Or the Mega vitamin man = Dr. Andrew W Saul Phd. This is just way to muddled. Thanks I will take the positive that has been answered long ago before big Pharma came in to take everyone for everything they can get.
How much do you really trust these people though? I was sold on Thomas E Levy until I learned about his association with a phony diploma mill "University": sciblogs.co.nz/infectious-thoughts/2012/03/07/vitamin-c-primal-panacea-yeah-right/ I am extremely suspicious of Andrew Saul because he comes across as such a damn quack. I'm still trying to figure out Suzanne Humphries; she could be completely legit, but that's not to say she's right. Listening to "Dr" Eric Berg recently on RU-vid (he is NOT a doctor but that's another story) he makes a completely opposite argument that Ascorbic Acid is "fake Vitamin C" and you're better off taking apple cider vinegar.
@@FaNIXAUZ Intracellular ascorbic does hit a saturation level. And as the lecturer said, after a certain extracellular level, the kidneys work to flush it from the blood.
@@geraldk1445 Go and check Andrew Saul or the Riordan Protocol they really know how Vitamin C works, and the dosis they recommend is way higher than this kid is saying.
Has anyone came across, the best derived sources of vitamin c ? We know most c is derived from gmo corn, which is useless at best. For iv infusion what is the go to for derived c sources
Funny there is study-money for the runners but not enough money for vit C in new areas. Then again, who says running is healthy, getting dehydrated and such. Cannot imagine dropping down to ground at the end of a run is healthy -- except, again, for the medical business.
The only way to protect us is our inmune system. You need to feed your kids with organic food before it’s too late. Help the kids to grow up with a strong immune system and they will be disease free.
Also, good variety ensures all nutrients, especially beef and eggs are packed with nutrients. Good health is more simple and only requires well grown natural foods, but do not forget eggs/beef primarily.
Total opposite as to what Linus Pauling lectures where. He needs to do more of his home work and get the facts straight. Linus Pauling would not be a happy camper.
We know that there must be a balance of vit c, zn and cu. I've experienced to cause imbalance. What is best way to balance them when on larger dose of vit c?
Listen, here, dimwit. Ascorbic acid is only part of vit c. What Dr. Bergs video on it. In short, get vit c from fruit extracts, primarily Acerola Cherry, which these contain the entire vitamin c and other antioxidents.
ok you made sense for a quite a bite but towards the conclusive portion of the presentation there were some glaring errors and massive discrepancies that were uttered. The brain is actually bathed in the most aggressive amounts of vitamin C. In essence, that is the only way your brain neurons or neurotransmitters are able to fire at the lighting speed intervals that your body commands. So this would be highly effective for a tumor manifested in the cranial regions. Vitamin C is virtually effective anywhere in the body. Do not mitigate its efficacy.
This presenter is sadly misinformed. He needs to read books by Dr. Thomas Levy for a start. I kicked the flu in a few hours with 10 grams of liposomal vitamin C in just one example. I'm so sad to hear this poor information that really misses the mark.
Absolutely agree. I read a Linus Pauling book back in 1994...I IMMEDIATELY, the very second I sense a sniffle (usually around 4-5pm) by the time I go to sleep 10-11pm, I have chewed through 5-6-7g Vit c...same thing for the next 3-4 nights. NEVER had a cold 25 yrs.
Which Vitamin C did you use? also how many mg? I bought Nutrivein premium Liposomal Vitamin C 1,650 mg per serving. Your suppose to take 2 a day.I swear I been using the vitamin C and magnesium for like a week and I been have the best energy ever. And so many other good things have been happening body wise and pain wise. I wanna know if the one linus talks about is powder and will liposomal pills work the same.
VITAMIN-C Cell Curative: as Ascorbic-Acid = Ascorbate accurately articulated. It's very effective in higher doses, whether or not a real vitamin or not.
400mgs that so inadequate it’s a joke. For the institute to be in bed with pharma for funding and the like , you have to understand that they have to say such a low RDA Themselves, not too high not too low. More like starting point would be 1000mgs 4 times per day. Total of 4000mgs then at least 1500 msg will get into your cells. I personally think 2000mgs 6-8 times per day .
Interesting discussion. Fifty-four minutes in, I've noticed this myself when taking vitamin C. I can't exercise as well, as my muscles lose energy and strength. It could just be me due to my body chemistry.
There has been a phenomenon noted with vitamin c and vitamin e with exercise. Not sure how much of it is due to the vitamins themselves or some other phenomenon going on....
So many comments about the presenter not knowing his stuff. He is extremely knowledgeable, what he says is about there not being clinical trial, no real research has been done. Everything known is anecdotal - it has been successfully used but without the correct double blind peer reviewed, etc. Therefore he can only answer that there is not enough evidence to support ...
Great presentation! I wished he delved more on effect of vitamin c as a neuroprotective agent, does it cross the bbb? Does it help with dementia? Another peculiarity of vitamin c is that in high dose, it also blocks lead absorption.
The question is, is there a feedback mechanism where the more toxic or ill the body is, the more ascorbic acid can be eaten or injected and absorbed for use. That is the Crux of the Klenner, Pauling, et al statement. This has never been nailed down. IS THERE SUCH A FEEDBACK MECHANISM OR NOT??
Raw meat contains vitamin C, although most of it is lost upon cooking. Organs contain more vitamin C, and an appreciable amount will remain after cooking. Also, herbs and other plant materials do contain vitamin C. Teas made from these products have been shown to contain vitamin C - especially pine needle tea, which has been part of traditional medicines of indigenous peoples of the northern regions for millennia.
This guy works at the Linus Pauling Institute and talks about plasma saturation based on Levine's results. What a shame he hasn't read more contemporary literature.
Could you kindly recommend the literature you mentioned? I will read. My son, 4 years old, has long COVID, without any help and positive progress... don't know what to do... So I will read
VitC does cure colds. It works on all illness. Linus Pauling lived to be 93. It wasn't from eating McDonalds. You should do something else. This is a hot mess
Thank you handsome guy for this great research of yours.This is an additional info from Dr. Thomas Levy and Dra. Suzanne Humphries that have so many info about Vit.C and very detailed.
Just take Acerola Cherry extract. Pure vitamin c is not ascorbic acid, Pure vitamin c has ascorbic acid along with other components. Most simple solution is to blend a whole lemon(rind also) this has all parts the rind being especially good, its why the rind is so sour/bitter.
Thanks for the Biology lesson Alexander, as vitamin metabolism is still not well understood ... much less its sources ... 70 Going On 100 … the Centenarian Diet … maybe 70 Going On 128 … the Hayflick Limit
So on a low carb way of eating, cancer cells are taking up lots of vitamin C because they see it as glucose? What is the reason an excellent vitamin C status tends to raise blood iron levels that might be of concern.
@@greenleader413 It's actually kinda a myth about vitamin c and kidney stones... I take a ton and have never had any issues, my naturopathic doctor also says the same.... If you are worried about the possibility you can drink lemon water daily...
Some say Chinese Vitamin C is bad - is this right? And why is it bad? How dangerous? What side-effects? How to ensure that bought in the West is better?
I wish I could put a pic of the v c I just ordered , it's from nulife 1.000 g sodium ascorbate bio active non gmo, I put small amount on my spoon and add it to my water, I notice it took away that pick axe pain in the back of my head, and gave me a little energy, not sure how safe it is to use every day?
1000 mg per day for most people is not likely to cause any harm. The tolerable upper intake level set for vitamin C in 2000 mg/day. Just make sure you're not having gas/bloating problems and you're likely good.
@Mary Carroll dosage varies by condition weight and personal tolerence. how often and how much do you take. it is best to take multiple times a day. if i take 10 grams at once i usually have to go to bathroom in 30mins to 1 hour if i am not sick. and eat some salt and protein too. meat collagen. those go well with vitamin c.
@Mary Carroll i take more often when i am sick or feel terrible. if not every 4-6 hours. i noticed thay when im under stress i get mucus buildup and more boogers. its pretty crazy that i have had mucus buildup all my life until vitamin c. i never knew simply supplementing vitamin C would get rid of that problem.
after how many mg's of vitamin c does the body stop using it and it is urinated out ? just wondering how much i should take per day so that i dont waste money
The Linus Pauling Institute recommends 400 mg/day for most people under normal circumstances. However, there are instances where people might want to take more. The search for the optimal dose of vitamin C continues.
@@thelinuspaulinginstituteI seen on the linus that for heart diseases it was 3,000 mg to 10,000 did you see that also? I have all the supplements he mentioned but wanna make sure of the doses
The Swedish doctor Linus Pauling got the Nobel prize for his life long work on the importance of vit C for health. You are butchering his work!!! Pls go and do something else with your life!!! I am from Sweden and dislike your theatrical performance!
Sorry to say, you are wrong on two counts: Linus Pauling was born in Oregon of German immigrants. Also, he never received the Nobel Prize for his work on vitamin C: His two Nobel Prizes were for Chemistry (the nature of the chemical bond) and Peace (nuclear disarmament)
His Nobel Prize in Chemistry 1954 was related to vitamin C synthesis. He is known for his life long belief in vitamin C benefits for health. But yes, you are correct, he was born in Oregon which I learned thanks to you.
The Nobel Prize in Chemistry 1954 was awarded to Linus Pauling "for his research into the nature of the chemical bond and its application to the elucidation of the structure of complex substances". Source: www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/chemistry/laureates/1954/ Pauling wasn't introduced to vitamin C until 1966, when Dr. Irwin Stone told him about its remarkable healing properties - long after Pauling received the Nobel Prize. Anyone who tells you differently is fabricating the truth.
You could try hydrogen therapy. Cancer Hates Hydrogen I use infused hydrogen water and breath hydrogen gas for 1-2hrs per day. I use the Linus Pauling Heart Protocol, reversing my heart disease successfully. Hydrogen has an influence on over 170 diseases.
I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with either one of them, but it's hard to say something good either. The problem is that supplement companies can make certain claims that they don't have to back up... But as scientists we need to see evidence.
@@michelsa0276The problem with evidence is that what one calls evidence another calls it anecdotal. Reversing my heart disease on the Linus Pauling Heart Protocol.
The amount of vitamin C that is metabolized can vary from person to person. We don't have a good way of predicting that yet, but it seems to increase when someone is under a great deal of stress.
Please advise me on How many Vitamins C a day, how often, what brand, is it's stronger with the Rose hips?. Orally or intravenous?. Thanks for your help.
If you take 2000 msg half a teaspoon , you fully absorb about 900mgs rest goes out in urine or shit end. Sodium ascorbate is most cost effective ,liposomal is not cost effective long term, but if your sick load the fuck up on lipo I take 2000mgs sodium ascorbate 8 times a day.I have anemia so have to try and get my iron levels up to or close to optimal.
Don’t watch this video it is wrong and trying to discourage the knowledge seekers.....He must work for The Big Pharmaceuticals companies!!!! He also. Is. A lousy teacher anyhow.
I agree with what has been said here, especially when compared to other sources. But why do you sound like members of a damn cult? This childish behavior harms your entire intention.
Larry Rondeau. Worst speaker I have ever heard. Like, "The problem with such and such is that - er I should say the uh - the DIFFICULTY of the, the.." For God's sake man spit it out.