All types of 2000s camcorders explained

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Today, consumer-grade camcorders have been almost completely replaced by the video capabilities of smartphones, DSLRs, and action cameras. But in 2008, there were more choices than ever: analog or digital; standard or high definition; and various forms of tape, disc, hard drive, and flash memory recording. I explain all of these varieties of camcorders and provide some sample footage from them.
Today there are some signs of a resurgence in popularity of camcorders due to their "retro" aesthetic, but unfortunately the inexpensive new ones all over Amazon are gussied-up toys with very bad video and audio quality, and it may be difficult to import and edit the footage from a vintage camcorder on a modern computer. Windows Movie Maker 2012 is my beginner's recommendation because it's a simple solution that supports a very wide variety of formats, and unlike many modern video editors (including Microsoft's own replacement for it, ClipChamp), it actually knows how to properly deal with interlaced, rectangular-pixel, and/or 4:3 aspect ratio footage.
One 2000s camcorder format I didn't mention was MicroMV, because it was already long gone by 2008. See Techmoan's excellent video about MicroMV: • MicroMV and me - Tiny ...
And Panasonic's brochure for their 2008 camcorders was a real tour de force of marketing, sloganeering, and logos plastered all over the place: www.amstereo.org/files/panason...
Time flow:
0:00 Introduction
1:03 Analog Hi8/VHS-C
1:34 Digital8
2:04 MiniDV
3:15 DVD
3:58 Hard drive
4:31 Flash memory
5:05 Extra features & hybrid models
5:51 HDV
6:37 HD on DVD & Blu-ray
7:58 AVCHD
8:38 SD with HDMI output
9:09 Budget HD camcorders
10:06 Over 50 models in 2008
11:22 The camcorder market today
12:34 My recommendations
13:20 Conclusion
Disclaimer: Except for the cat, none of the sample footage was recorded by me, and I don't know any of the people in it.
#camcorder #RetroTech #FoundFootage

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@goldenrod1676 7 месяцев назад

“Please don’t photographer us” 😂

@mhmrules 7 месяцев назад

😂😂😂 That was precious!

@samholdsworth420 7 месяцев назад

Had me laughing 😊

@rs12official 7 месяцев назад

@@samholdsworth420Me too!!!

@yanikkunitsin1466 7 месяцев назад

Is that what she said at 1:31? I too autoportrait myself sometimes.

@kijar 7 месяцев назад

Adorable

@face56 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for deinterlacing the camcorder videos and uploading in a higher resolution so that they show at the proper frame rate on youtube. So many people get this wrong.

@AhDollar 7 месяцев назад

omggggg seeing someone who even knows what that is and why it's important these days is like a breath of heaven

@bsanchez3563 7 месяцев назад

@@AhDollar:D hehehe that made me smile yet it is so true. Imho

@Syn_Host 4 месяца назад

I remember watching Marques Brownlee's camcorder episode, and I was baffled to see that production company didn't know what deinterlacing is, or didn't care to even do it.

@tylern6420 6 дней назад

@@AhDollar even legacybox doesnt do that

@smittywerbenjagermanjensen9802 7 месяцев назад

I worked at Target in the electronics section around 2010-2012 and your comment on "HDD" on camcorders causing confusion unlocked a memory for me. There was a customer looking at the camcorders who said they wanted an HD camcorder and was asking about one we had that had "HDD" on the side I explained that camera isn't High Definition it just has an internal hard drive and they said but it is HD because it says "HD" on the side. I just said "okay" and let them buy it, I wonder if they ever figured out it wasn't HD and looked back at our interaction and reflected on how stupid they were. I doubt it, they probably thought I was the idiot.

@sbaker002 7 месяцев назад

My dad bought a Sony Digital-8 camcorder back in 1999, he mainly chose it so it was backwards compatible with his 8mm tapes from their 1992 Canon camcorder which had just failed. It's still going strong today. Last Christmas I bought a cheap old HP gaming laptop for £10 specifically for the fact that it had a firewire port. Using the Sony cam and firewire, I transferred all of his old videos onto the laptop with absolutely no loss in quality from the original recordings, even the oldest tapes from 1992 look good. All of the digital-8 videos even transferred with the correct date and time stamps on the files. It made a great Christmas present to give him all his old recordings on a single flash drive, and great to see my childhood again.

@BeyondBaito Месяц назад

I have to use an adapter that connects A/V and S-Video

@NJRoadfan 7 месяцев назад

I actually got made fun of by pulling out my Canon HV20 and using it in a guest cam during a live show. Jokes on them, it has a full sized HDMI port for easy connectivity and excellent video quality!

@notninja 7 месяцев назад

saved up and got the HV30 when it came out. have a box full of hd tapes. Friends used to make fun everytime i took it out! Now we cherish those memories in HD

@Crlarl 6 месяцев назад

I bought an HV30 for this exact reason. Bonus is that it can scan at 30p.

@rockrecordreport7136 5 месяцев назад

@@Crlarl The HV40 has 24p - the real thing which is a dream feature for the film festival hopeful crowd and others that want to try for the film look.

@rockrecordreport7136 5 месяцев назад

That camera (and the HV30, and HV40) is very sellable on the used market. Still has some demand even being tape based. I used a HV30 a few weeks ago as a third camera at a performance and it got what I needed. The 63 min. tape length is the only thing I had to consider.

@nooddles12 2 месяца назад

haters always gonna hate

@Daktyl198 7 месяцев назад

It’s amazing how many of these actually hold up until even today. A bit of color correction and those HD videos could be shown today.

@mushroomsamba82 7 месяцев назад

VWestlife must have an incredible collection of found footage of weddings and vacations 😅

@vwestlife 7 месяцев назад

And Christmases.

@olik136 7 месяцев назад

they serve as a good reminder that camcorders are inherently a mistake 😂

@thechosenone9965 4 месяца назад

@vwestlife did anyone from the audience recognize themselves in said footage? did they contact you?

@notanimposter 7 месяцев назад

HDV was awesome right up until the mid 2010s if you had a camera that actually had a full HD sensor. It’s crazy how much HD video you could fit on a tape, compared to the pittance other people were getting on their silly little memory cards. And when RU-vid and Skype started to get popular, you already had the only HD webcam in town!

@elektrokinesis4150 7 месяцев назад

I still use my HVR-Z1U

@fungo6631 7 месяцев назад

The problem was that HDV used MPEG-2 and 26 Mbps of bitrate. Sure, a miniDV tape could hold 13 GB of data, but note that the SD card camcorders recorded in AVC/H.264 which had lower bitrate requirements. If your camcorder recorded 12 Mbps H.264 video, the quality would be the same as HDV because of the more efficient codec. And yet you could use an 8 GB SD card and have more video than on a miniDV tape.

@KRAFTWERK2K6 7 месяцев назад

Yeah i sometimes connected my HV20 and even my old JVC VHS-C Camcorder to my PC and used them as Webcam and for live video capturing directly to PC :D Yeah the best thing about camcorders was you didn't have to worry about dust getting to the sensor like with DSLR cameras. I still LOVE DV tapes. Back then they really were the cheapest and most reliable storage medium for HOURS of HD video. Now SD card prices have come so low, they can actually compete with their HD Video storage capacity per Minute. But it only took another decade to come this far. :P But tapes just feel more physical and like slamming a new roll of film into your camera.

@NALTOHQ 7 месяцев назад

@@KRAFTWERK2K6 absolutely. Nothing will be able to replicate that physical feeling. It makes me sad. Its why I want a game console like the Evercade. I want to have something physical, that I can hold in my hand, that actually MEANS something, that I can say I OWN.

@fungo6631 7 месяцев назад

@@KRAFTWERK2K6 Flash memory has gotten cheap enough that 10 euro will get you 128 GB of it. A miniDV tape can store 13 GB.

@haji2nd444 7 месяцев назад

I really like the way 2000s camcorder footage (especially miniDV and DVD) looks. It's hard to describe, but I guess it's the lower resolution, dimmer colors, and just so much more that just gives it a nostalgic mid to late 2000s look that is just impossible to put into words.

@gammaboost 7 месяцев назад

60fps.

@Tester-sh1mn 7 месяцев назад

@@gorak9000 And I've got one word for you, "Cataract".

@dietgilroy Месяц назад

@@Tester-sh1mnwhere

@musiclabmn 7 месяцев назад

You literally went through my same timeline of camcorders. I still have them all, kept for prosperity.. My favorite camcorder of all time, is the Canon HV20. One of the first consumer camcorders EVER that could shoot real progressive scan, 24p video on MiniDV tape. It was amazing and the quality still holds up today. I spent an absolute ridiculous amount of money on it back in 2007.

@jasonsong86 7 месяцев назад

So much nostalgia in this video. I still have my Sony DV camcorder. During the 3DTV craze, Sony even made a 3D camcorder.

@axelfiedel3793 7 месяцев назад

My parents would make home movies about me and my siblings on a Sony DVD Handycam. I still remember the videos as I turned 19 this month and wonder when can I go back to live it again.

@spookyjames4347 7 месяцев назад

I have been a licensed private investigator since 1995. I have used the following camcorder formats: Sony 8 mm, Sony 8 Hi mm, Sony Digital 8 mm, JVC standard definition on SD card, JVC High definition on SD Card and Canon 720p on SD Card. The only camcorders that are not broken are the JVC standard definition, except for a burnout pixel and one of the several JVC High definition camcorders and my current Canon camcorder. The problem with the Sony camcorders is that they became obsolete and all of them broke. I really loved the Sony Digital 8 mm because of the various inputs and outputs. I was able to use it as a web cam with various efforts. All of the JVC camcorders (except for the standard definition) had the same problem, the pull out monitor would go black.

@AndrewEwzzyRayburn 7 месяцев назад

I loved this video. The MiniDV camera I got as a HS graduation gift was a huge part of my life. The transition to a few years later was a big part of my early pro video career. A big challenge at that point was finding a computer that could play back the exported video. We resorted to playing a 720p WMV file on an XBOX 360 over VGA to project our senior film in HD.

@AndrewEwzzyRayburn 7 месяцев назад

I somehow missed the word "HDV" that was what I shot my senior film on.

@Eliotime3000 7 месяцев назад

When you showed an HDV footage, my cheap LG Full HD LED TV experienced a second life that didn't expect to see.

@RankingSpicey 7 месяцев назад

Same here! On my kinda Old Philips Full HD LED TV, 43 in size i think. Crazy good picture right There. Looked like 4K. ANOTHER crazy thing is, that really Low quality movie rips like 640x480 looks kind of Ok on this tv (When played from Apple TV with VLC).

@airingcupboard 7 месяцев назад

Love the little social documents on those tapes snd media. Fascinating how styles and approaches have changed before home editing and social media have become the norm.

@allenu 7 месяцев назад

I love the old clips. I'd watch a stream of random people's old camcorder footage and I'm sure I'm not alone.

@marcusdamberger 7 месяцев назад

I remember walking into a Circuit city in 1995 and seeing a Sony display with their camcorders feeding TV's connected to each of the cams. It was the first time I saw a MiniDV video camera and I was blown away by the quality of the picture it was producing. That camera was a Sony VX1000 and the granddaddy of all subsequent DV cameras; including Sony's own industrial/professional lineup that would soon come out with the PD-150 that had XLR inputs and features for broadcasters and professionals, but in the same basic layout and body style. I later would use the PD-170 while working at a local TV station in the mid 2000s.

@erroneousbosh 6 месяцев назад

The first "real" video work I did was on a VX1000, and we soon upgraded to a VX2000. I shot a lot on that in the early days of video on websites, about 20 years ago. Eventually I moved jobs and didn't do a lot of video, but I got back into it when our graphics guys were having a clearout and handed me a barely-used Sony PD150, which is the "pro" version of the VX2000 with proper XLR inputs. I love shooting with the PD150. I haven't done anything on it for months, but it's getting into winter so there's some lovely "magic hour" light these days.

@brun20 7 месяцев назад

Sanyo had a line called Xacti. Those were a pistol like cameras who recorded H264 into an MP4 container on SD cards and some models like the HD1000 recorded full HD at 1080i.

@novelezra 7 месяцев назад

That HDV looks absolutely beautiful. Dont get me wrong, I adore lo-fi recording methods because they have a very nostalgic tone that reminds me of my days watching CKY and filming my friends skateboard. But HDV has a wonderful dreamy soft quality to it thats held up so well. Gonna have to try and pick one up.

@vwestlife 7 месяцев назад

The Canon HV20, HV30, and HV40 HDV camcorders were praised for not artificially boosting contrast and color saturation, like many other video cameras do. Maybe that's why it looks "soft" to you.

@DrCassette 7 месяцев назад

The "softness" could also be because of HDV's 1440x1080resolution, instead of 1920x1080 FullHD...

@AaronSmart.online 7 месяцев назад

@@DrCassette with RU-vid's low bitrate, the resolution difference is probably negligible

@onederdude 4 месяца назад

What about the HV10? I have that model and i love its compact size and form factor. Should i invest in one of the other models in that lineup?@@vwestlife

@AmericanSoldierSioux1969 7 месяцев назад

I'm currently still using my Sony Handycam HDR-CX240 with a SanDisk Ultra 200GB microSDXC1 card bought at Walmart about 8-10 years ago, and personally I think it's STILL better definition than my iPhone 13 Pro Max Videocamera feature. Plus, Microsoft Windows 10 still has connection issues with trying to hook up an Apple product like my iPhone, and too slow to transfer in my computer. I can hook up my Sony camera to PlayMemoriesHome Windows software super easy and so much faster without issue. Overall, I'm still happy with my HandyCam, but also an old fart so I don't keep up with the times anymore like I used-to-could. Thanks for posting and sharing, you do great videos on electronics, past and present. Some of your older products I completely forgot about, great memories!

@bangskij 7 месяцев назад

loving the test footage! I remember back when I bought Sony's first HDV camcorder and back then the confusion went the other way, people saw the HD and thought it was recording on hard drive, couldn't figure out why I also used tapes :-)

@Mrshoujo 7 месяцев назад

Another banger of an upload. Furiously researched and packed full of information, detailed editing, and making me hope I can choose a good camera.

@FoxMulder78 7 месяцев назад

And it's 13:37.

@gerarddip Месяц назад

The HDV footage is actually super impressive. I can’t believe magnetic tape is capable of this!

@kumarp3074 7 месяцев назад

In 2008 I had the Nokia N85 which recorded video in VGA quality at 30fps. It actually had a 5 MP rear camera and a flash. The iPhone 3G came out the same year and while it did not come with the ability to record video, it was possible to get apps that recorded video via the newly introduced Apple App Store.

@kenkobra 7 месяцев назад

Great Video! You should upload more footage you found on the tapes from thrift stores. Would be interesting to see. Just like the two kids in high school at the end that was from 2008.

@vwestlife 7 месяцев назад

See my "Lost Digital8/Hi8/MiniDV/etc. Tape" series on my vwest7ife channel.

@philosynth 7 месяцев назад

I still use my Panasonic NV-GS11 from 2004, a MiniDV camcorder with 24x optical zoom. As you suggest, I use a laptop with firewire (a HP nc6320) with Windows XP and Movie Maker for importing footage from the tape. I love the look of movies made with this camcorder.

@CameramanEyes Месяц назад

Me too. I have 3 Panasonic models. The best one being the NV GS 320. My go to camera. Keeping the dream alive

@toddcamnyc 7 месяцев назад

I had a camcorder in 2015 with 5.1 surround sound. At that time, RU-vid allowed me to upload 5.1 and anyone with surround speakers could play it back. Sadly, they took this feature away and downmixed my videos to stereo.

@gammaboost 7 месяцев назад

RU-vid supports 5.1 again! Unfortunately this is only for people playing back on TV versions of youtube. Since youtube keeps the original video files for future re-encoding, it might be worth checking whether those videos are in 5.1 on a TV or console.

@timf-tinkering 7 месяцев назад

PCIe FireWire cards are still being made, and work perfectly in Windows 10 on modern hardware. Apparently some devices require "legacy" FireWire drivers to be installed, but I've never needed to do that. The drivers included with Windows 10 seem to work fine for DV.

@erroneousbosh 6 месяцев назад

You can do it out of the box with Linux and dvgrab, and then cook it into something sensible with ffmpeg quite easily too.

@pmc_ 3 месяца назад

And on Mac, you can use a dongle chain (Camera -> Firewire 400 -> Firewire 800 -> Thunderbolt 2 -> Thunderbolt 3 -> Mac) and it Just Works with Final Cut Pro, from what I've heard.

@sctarry0456 4 месяца назад

I can’t imagine how much work this took to edit this together and make it a nice viewing experience, well done!

@crazywarp36 6 месяцев назад

I really like all these camcorders in some way. Good work on this video, Everything was explained very well, and this video had very good information all while being very entertaining. Good Job Vwestlife!

@AllensTrains Месяц назад

Quite an entertaining video. The advantage of an old camcorder over an iPhone is that you are not worried about anybody stealing it! Thanks for uploading.

@keinpodcast4053 7 месяцев назад

I still love the picture style of the old MiniDV camcorders in 4:3 format. Even today, old documentaries that were filmed with a Sony VX1000/VX2000 or a Canon XL1/XL2 are still shown on television every now and then. I like the colors of the CCD sensors and the endless depth of field. Bokeh is more for photography. But maybe it's just because I'm over 50 😂

@Kane26510 7 месяцев назад

I stopped with camcorders at the Hi-8 format. Still have a bunch of tapes and the combo VHS/Hi-8 VCR to play them. My daughters will drag them out when they're feeling nostalgic. Great video and I like the collection of "handycams" (using a brand name as a generic label, a la Scotch Tape or Kleenex) that you have. Thanks for sharing.

@pokepress 7 месяцев назад

I’m sure retailers were thrilled about having to carry so many models and types of camcorders, and explain them to customers. 😉 Personally, I went from mini DV to an HD SD Card model to a Canon 1080p camcorder I still use today. AI upscaling helps make that last one look way more expensive than it actually is.

@MrDuncl 7 месяцев назад

The same retailers are now either out of business or selling nothing but TVs and Washing Machines.

@bluepterosaur 7 месяцев назад

Which camera is that last one

@McFixStuff 3 месяца назад

9:18 I had that same (similar) DXG camera when I was a freshman in high-school. I remember being dead set on capturing stuff in HD, because while my computer couldn't play it at the time, I knew it eventually would be able to. The videos still hold up today. Most my videos from my old channel from 2010 to 2013 were shot on DXG cameras.

@masterargento90x 6 месяцев назад

I had many cameras throughout my life. My first camcorder was a JVC GZ-MS120 (which I gave to a relative), with a dual SD card slot. It really recorded very well, and with that I was getting started for social events (weddings, sweet 15 parties, children's birthday parties, various events, etc.). I also keep other vintage cameras, like a Sony TRV 160 (and another TRV that I sold for money reasons), a Panasonic miniDV (I also had a Canon miniDV camera). I also used to have 3 HD cameras (a Panasonic MDH2, a Sony HD1000, and a Canon Vixia HF M300), which I also sold for economic reasons and kept the Vixia, along with the other two vintage cameras.

@Bort_86 7 месяцев назад

I honestly wonder what camera you are using, because from time to time it doesn’t look much better than those old Camcorders - which adds to the charm of your videos.

@TheOriginalCollectorA1303 7 месяцев назад

Great video, perfect to pick and choose what camcorder to get for the holiday season! But seriously, camcorders provide a type of video that just isn’t the same with completely digital on an iPhone or something. Don’t get me wrong, having the cameras we have now are great, but at the same time it seems like something was lost. That’s why I also enjoy using older camcorders and especially early digital cameras like Sony Mavicas! I guess you could say the same for CRT TVs and flatscreens, sure they are 4K and not as heavy, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to stop using my CRTs, not to mention they also look cool, classic 90s/2000s styling!

@rzeka 7 месяцев назад

Grew up in the early 2000s so this is a nostalgia overload for me : ) especially the Hi-8 tapes and the Flip Video shoutout!

@The2010golakers 6 месяцев назад

Oh man…. This takes me back to my childhood and seeing old camcorder recordings from when me and my sister were little. It’s also bittersweet seeing loved ones in certain recordings that have passed on.

@majestic-skies 7 месяцев назад

Scored a Panasonic 4K Camcorder for $250 used recently. Its honestly an amazing camera which has all the usual camcorder quirks (night vision, huge zoom range, great IS, External mic options etc) But it shoots in 4K so it gives you a really sharp image but still retains that camcorder "look" which is great for shooting more nostalgic esque videos.

@Stjaernljus 7 месяцев назад

5:41 - KITTY!

@smashthings1 7 месяцев назад

Love all the old camcorders. I like the softness and more dull colours you get from CCD image sensors. I remember using a Hitachi DVD camcorder back in the mid-late 00's. Despite the convenience of a mini DVD disc, each time you record a clip it would have a "Disc Access" message for ages before it would let you record another clip! Not helpful when you need to get multiple takes! Meanwhile my friend at the time had a MiniDV camcorder, and recording would start immediately with no delays! I think nowadays a HDD or flash memory camcorder is the best way to capture CCD-based video that's easy to transfer and use on modern equipment. I always had poor luck with Windows 11 and capturing analogue tape footage!

@MVVblog 7 месяцев назад

I bought my first FullHD 1080P camera back in 2008 to create videos for my RU-vid channel, and I used it until the end of 2019. Then my channel took off, and I switched to 4K. However, I still use it for live streaming, and occasionally for shooting certain video scenes. It's a Samsung, and its quality is pretty subpar, but it records to an SD card. I'm not currently using a DSLR; I have one, but I never use it.

7 месяцев назад

Tape was still the king in the late 2000s. Both miniDV and HDV. The files were much easier to edit. I still remember what a nightmare was dealing with those .mod files from HDD/SD camcorders. When it comes to HD the situation was pretty much the same. AVCHD files were hard to edit even on decent computer setup. And the quality was lower compared to HDV mostly due to low bitrate. I remember choosing my first HD camcorder around 08 or 09 and back then I was deciding between Sony HC9 and SR11. Chose the HC9 and never regretted it. It served me well for over 10 years. I switched to shooting with DSLR around 2015 but now I'm coming back to these little camcorders. Recently I got sony CX730 from around 2014 and I was honestly shocked how good the video looks. The built-in stabilisation is unbelievable. Also the bitrate is much higher compared to those early AVCHD camcorders.

@fullmetaljacket7 7 месяцев назад

10:57 I had a Panasonic GS320 back in the day. The audio on that thing was really damn good even for today standards.

@ShihammeDarc 6 месяцев назад

I love the look of the videos from the first 2 camcorders you showed, truly a different time.

@segarallychampionship702 6 месяцев назад

9:47 One thing that is mentioned on the camera: it has a CMOS sensor. Even at the time it was probably cheaper to make, but for video, CMOS sensors have a pronounced rolling shutter effect, especially the cheap sensors. Which some may not notice unless they're filming moving vehicles or take a video from a moving vehicle. I'm not sure if CCDs suffer from it. I have never noticed rolling shutter effect on CCDs, even when filming trains.

@dminalba 6 месяцев назад

I loved my Canon miniDV camera back in mid 2000s. Got and still use occasionally my Panasonic HD SD camcorder when I shoot something steady

@pabblo1 7 месяцев назад

So much nostalgia in this video. I still have a JVC Everio camcorder lying around that recorded to a HDD.

@Dmitrys_Music 7 месяцев назад

6:39 I got an HDR-UX20 about 2 months ago after I saw CRD's video about DVD camcorders. When I saw the listing on Avito, I immediately bought it. Very amazing to see such a rare 15-year old camcorder be on sale, especiialy in it's condition and tbe accessories. Sadly, the proprietary Memory Stick Duo slot forced me to buy the adapter from MS Duo to microSD, but at least the microSDs are really cheap these days. 11:39 It's too sad that Sony stopped making mid-tier CX6xx series, so I had to buy a CX620 from Avito as a good starter kit to make RU-vid videos. 5:18 RU-vid *DOES* officially support 5.1 Surround sound, but I'd still agree with you, since you can only really watch these in 5.1 Surround sound on TV version of RU-vid app.

@n__neen 7 месяцев назад

always nice to see ben. perpetually on the verge on attending the bonfire, never riding a long one.

@vwestlife 7 месяцев назад

They never actually recorded the bonfire on the tape.

@xxjvc 6 месяцев назад

Great video, great collection!! TX for the content

@elmofeneken4364 2 месяца назад

Anther excellent researched video. You left no stone unturned.

@craigw.scribner6490 7 месяцев назад

Great survey of camcorder history! Thanks!

@kumarp3074 7 месяцев назад

This reminded me of the Minolta 8mm Camcorder I received as a graduation present in the early 90s. It was actually a bit smaller than the Sony Handycam. I used it to record all of our family vacations.

@KRAFTWERK2K6 7 месяцев назад

I still have my Canon HV20 that i got second hand in 2009 and it was still pretty expensive. But cheaper than the HV30 and HV40 that you got in stores. Everyone was hyping these models so much but i realized the HV20 just had too many caveats, such as no 25psf / 24psf mode in normal DV mode, no real full manual video mode, the Cine Gamma mode had no shutterspeed options, the focal length was more or less always too close and had no real wide angle aaaand the camera had horrible frozen noise in lowlight settings. Still i LOVED the camera since it was my first HD video camcorder which made it feel like shooting on Super16. RU-vid back then was full of videos which demonstrated Mods for the camera that involved a better focus wheel and also combinations with selfmade camera rigs and 35mm Adapters.

@simplesimon755 14 дней назад

Thanks for the nostalgia trip. I have owned many old camcorders since the early 2000's. I still have a number of them that I think still work. I used to buy them at pawn shops pretty cheap. At the time I didn't pay much attention to what kind they were other than that most were Sony and were either 8mm, Hi-8, or DV tape and one HDD. I was one of those consumers that thought the HDD would be High Definition but it definitely wasn't. I used to capture the videos using my PC, fire-wire, and Adobe Premiere. I have a huge Pelican trunk full of tapes that I haven't opened for over 15 years. Hopefully the tapes are still in relatively good shape. Anyway, thanks for the great video.

@krazownik3139 7 месяцев назад

LoL. That Kodak camera in 0:40. My parents had (and they still have it) exactly the same back in the day. I should probably get out the batteries and check if it's still working when I would have some free time. It also probably has better optics than most cameras in modern phones, because that's something you cannot reasonably miniaturize.

@NALTOHQ 7 месяцев назад

This was a fun one to watch. Times were so much simpler then. Nowadays we use our cameras almost daily for really no good reason. Back then, it was just to record those special moments and memories so we can relive them. Good times

@AlterSchwedeWieGeil 7 месяцев назад

Yeah seems much simpler. Having to choose between 55 Camcorders with almost similar names, understand how to use which type of storage and then also have to have the correct ports on your PC has to have been simpler than opening the camera app on my phone and then immediately have the footage available on my PC via Cloud

@MrDuncl 7 месяцев назад

@@AlterSchwedeWieGeil Back in the day I spent £100s on capture cards and software trying to do editing of Hi-8 footage using my computer. Eventually I gave up on editing and just ran the camcorder into the video input of a Panasonic DVD recorder.

@kaitlyn__L 6 месяцев назад

@@AlterSchwedeWieGeil don't forget the ongoing cost of tapes/hard drives to keep long-term, or else resigning yourself to losing >90% of what you shot because you need to shoot something else but don't have a blank... I hated that

@jonathanreedpike 7 месяцев назад

Well done overview. If you can find one the 2008 vintage Canon TX1 is quite a jewel-like marvel.I had one and shot thousands of pictures and video with it.I gave it away a while ago and it's still in use.

@Petertronic 7 месяцев назад

Loved this, it took me back to my early 20's, fun times! The awkward video clips were hilarious.

@raymondmartin6737 7 месяцев назад

I first had a full sized camera from RCA, using a Dockable VHS portable deck over the shoulder in 1983, for a while. Pretty expensive back then Then I had the Sony 8MM Video in 1986, which I took to EXPO 86 in Vancouver, BC, and people were asking me what device it was. It had a mini tape deck for playback. I later in 1987 had the bigger Sony all-in-one larger camcorder which played back the Mini 8mm in its built in deck. I also had a small Panasonic Hand Held which recorded Mp4 AVI video on SD cards. Thanks for the reviews of portable Video recorders prior to today's smart- phones. 😊

@AMDRADEONRUBY 7 месяцев назад

Oh nice a video about camcorders love your videos Kevin!

@jasonlam9017 6 месяцев назад

Hey great video showing camcorders used in the 2000s(2008?). I'll add that there were phones capable of capturing videos at that time although very pixilated and often only 20 seconds of footage. Such as the Nokia 6020, 6300 and 6500slide to name a few.

@monteceitomoocher 7 месяцев назад

Still got a box full of MicroDv camcorders, a souvenir of my time as a sony camera engineer, we've come a long way in only a few years,

@Rivenworld 7 месяцев назад

Love this, nice collection, been using a Canon XF200 for a few years now, new it was 3 grand but I picked it up for half of that and it produces beautiful results, not your typical consumer camera but if you get a chance to get one or the XF100 go for it... Thanks for sharing, always love your videos 🙂

@cysjunk 7 месяцев назад

Please don't photographer us!

@CameramanEyes Месяц назад

Minidv is still my go to format for days out and family events. It looks great

@JarrydHall 7 месяцев назад

5:25 You mention 5.1 doesn’t work on streaming platforms, but it absolutely does. I am a professional colourist and I often have to online / master out content. I can confirm from personal experience I can bang out a 5.1 audio track L C R LFE Ls Rs and it is correctly interpreted on RU-vid and Vimeo. :)

@JarrydHall 7 месяцев назад

I should specify, I played it back using respective RU-vid and Vimeo apps on an LG C1 tv connected to a Marantz amp via HDMI eARC and the amp reported “Dolby Digital 5.1 Plus” and I could hear the channels responding correctly. :)

@vwestlife 7 месяцев назад

RU-vid doesn't support anything more than two audio channels. Surround sound only works if you encode it as Dolby Pro Logic and then use a Pro Logic decoder on the playback end. But if you just upload a video with discrete 5.1 channel audio, RU-vid will simply ignore everything except the front left and right channels.

@rupertthomson 7 месяцев назад

I've seen videos via yt dlp with 6 channels of audio

@JarrydHall 7 месяцев назад

@@vwestlife I’d be happy to work with you to help you get 5.1 working. I absolutely was getting 5.1 playback, with stereo separations in the rears, so can confirm it wasn’t a flavour of Pro Logic. Also the “stats for nerds” showed the stream was 6 audio channels playing back. I discovered this roughly 3 months ago, so perhaps it’s a fairly new thing as up until that point I too was convinced stereo was the max channel output available.

@vwestlife 7 месяцев назад

@@JarrydHall Does this work for you? It was uploaded directly from the Sony camcorder I showed in the video with the built-in 5.1 channel microphone: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mlTT0WhcD18.html

@timacrow 2 месяца назад

I still have a MiniDV and two Digital 8 camcorders. They make good videos and have features not found on phones (like Sony NightShot). Since I started with a Hi8 camcorder in the early 1990s, the D8 camcorders let me play back those old tapes. I also have a camcorder from 2009, the Sony PMW EX3 CineAlta HD camera, a professional model that records on SxS cards. I have a Pinnacle Studio video interface with Firewire that plugs into USB 2.0 on my old Windows 7 laptop (the Pinnacle hardware won't work with later Windows). From there, I can move the video over to my modern laptop or desktop for editing on better software.

@adamholmes740 7 месяцев назад

This brings me back, i brought my first camcorder around that time. So i could film some urbex before it became mainstream; sadly all of the sites around me are now housing estates. I still have the camcorder now and it still works perfect today, JVC Everio GZ-MS100RU. It is standard definition with SDHC memory, mine is a nice metalic red. It also has the silly "one touch upload to youtube" button that i never used and i don't think it even worked at the time. I can remember that i could only afford a 2gb card, at the time that would have been around £40 (I was only 17 at college with a part-time job). Something about the soft, slightly grainy quality i still love today. 4:3 is great! I think the smallest *new* SD cards you can get today is 4gb and around £1.50 haha

@scanman975 7 месяцев назад

Excellent collection of video cameras there.

@waynesharp1690 7 месяцев назад

Really enjoyed this one 👌

@tookeydookey 7 месяцев назад

As someone who loves your camcorder videos, this was an awesome retrospective of 2000s camcorders! I'd love to see a video of 2010s camcorders but I'd highly doubt there would be a lot different types of camcorders to talk about from that decade. I could be wrong as far as I know🤔

@MrDuncl 7 месяцев назад

In 2010 I bought a Canon Ixus pocket camera which records HD video onto an SD card and is almost certainly higher quality than any of those no name Camcorders Kevin showed. It was about 1/3rd of the price of the Hi8 Sharp Viewcam we bought 12 years earlier. I have no regrets about buying that though as got some good footage of the World Trade Center using it.

@marsilies 7 месяцев назад

In terms of importing the video from these old formats, I can only speak to MiniDV and HDV, but back I when I dealt with those formats, I preferred the free utility WinDV to Windows Movie Maker, because it would automatically split the video tape into separate files based on the time/date data in the feed. When I had a single AVI file that had already been imported by WMM, I would use the free utility dvdate to split it up. And finally, I preferred HDVSplit for importing HDV over WMM, as WMM imports a tape as, again, a single massive file, but also as a .dvr-ms file, which I could never figure out how to use with anything else, while HDVSplit imports each clip as its own .m2t file, which is the MPEG-2 transport stream format, that a lot more programs can deal with.

@seasonstudios 4 месяца назад

Thanks for the memory lane tour. I have a few old camcorders because I just like using them. I have one newer Canon HD cheapie but what I really want is an HD camcorder with an eyepiece. The LCD is fine for generalized random shooting but to be more detailed at certain shots the eyecup is by far the best. The sun plays havoc with the screen monitor. You can't see what you're shooting. Also the zoom is great for certain effectual shots you might want.

@Drmcclung 7 месяцев назад

Whew, the dark ages of "too many choices, none of them really right for me!" camcorders; Everything from potato camera to prosumer models. I used to get so angry at misleading/useless features from the more expensive ones, and frustrated with the build quality (yet surprising image quality) out of flippers that stopped working for no reason at all. Between 2008-2012 I had good luck with some of the mid-grade point and shoot still cameras that had video recording to SD card and that was the stop-gap solution that worked for me right up until a few years ago when phones finally got good enough to take over. SLR cameras were always a bit more quality than I needed.. once the camera body, required lenses, batteries etc totaled up. Nikon Cool Pix "Red" waterproof was one of the ones I stuck with the longest. For $99 it absolutely couldn't be beat.

@timecage 7 месяцев назад

Literally yesterday did I have a thought to get myself a camcorder and here's a video about the topic. Thank you :).

@lifedaiiry 7 месяцев назад

Thank you SO MUCH for making this video!!!!!!!!!!!! In the 2000's I was a young child and my family was pretty poor, so when we recorded stuff we almost immediately sold the camera after getting the footage off of it, except for one that is. So buying them now, I don't know too much about them. This was a pretty good video, it explains things simple enough for me to understand!

@bigdude101ohyeah 7 месяцев назад

Geez, seeing what has been done to the Minolta brand almost made me cry.

@corneliupopescu400 7 месяцев назад

I remember plating in that period with a Sony mini-DVD camera and a cherry-red Canon FS200 that recorded on an SD card in standard definition. An 8 GB card was good for over 2.5 hours of footage, although the quality was mediocre, especially in low light. On the other hand, the Sony had an infrared lamp fpr filming in zero-light conditions. I filmed a lot of parties with that :D The image from the IR sensor was superimposed on the normal image, so it yielded good results in low light. Also about 2009 I bought a Nikon L120 bridge camera that was capable of filmimg in 720p, but with so-so results. The most frustrating was the choppy zoom while filming and the slow autofocus resulting in entire seconds of blurry video. The sound capture was horid as well.

@ochavezart 5 месяцев назад

This was really helpful and cleared allot of questions I had about the early 2000's cameras. I still have my JVC Mini DV my dad bought me in 2006, still turns on and functions, until I want to record or play, and then it gives that safeguard mode. But since I got a refurbished sony, I have been able to digitize my old Mini DVs. I like the mini DV and old 8MM tapes because of that old school look, that even modern programs don't come close to replicating. I like capturing videos more on the camcorders because those were built to record, even for long periods. The phone cameras give great image and sound, but in my opinion, the smart phone has been over used and abused for allot of things.

@KRAFTWERK2K6 7 месяцев назад

I think I almost got that Sony DCR-HC51e back in 2009 but it was a little over my budget. LOVED that model a lot and sound wise it really had one heck of a Mic inside. I opted for the Samsung VP-D381 instead which i kinda regret. Since the camera recorded DV tapes with the same low-magnetic intensity in SP mode as it does in LP mode. Took me a few years to realize that though..... The first tape i recorded on it was not properly pre-magnetized. I had pre-recorded my other tapes 3 times before actually recording on them, to make sure the tapes magnetic properties would be more optimal for recording. And lo and behold... that actually helped. The recordings i did with the Samsung VP-D381 on these pre-magnetized tapes actually survived. The recordings on my very first tape without pre-recording/magnetiziatuon, is not playable anymore and just gives me glitches. it seems Samsung went wayyyy off the DV specs with their Mini DV camcorders. Which is why i wish i had bought a Sony model instead. I also remember the first SD card camcorders. I think they recorded MPEG2 files, before H264 really became mainstream on these. Same with these HDD camcorders. I think Canon's HDD variations of the HDV and SD card cameras, recorded MPEG2 Transportstream files. HDV was great and i always preferred Canon's HDV format over Sony's. Over here in Germany you could not really get new Digital8, Hi8 or VHS-C camcorders anymore in stores. Not even on clearance. You COULD however still get the tapes for it. Digital and Hi8 tapes were available wayy into the late 2010s over here.

@Retroaria 7 месяцев назад

Every single time I just came here...ALWAYS a very good content. #informative

@ElianaDAngelo 6 месяцев назад

Shoutout to the HV20. I still have mine with the DOF adapter I made for it back in like 2010. True hood classic cam.

@rogerb5615 7 месяцев назад

Excellent video! Very useful guide to format compatibility - there is an ongoing market for camcorders that can convert analog 8MM tapes to digital, and output them to a PC. You omitted the late model Sony Mavicas such as the MVC-CD1000, which recorded mpeg HD movie files to mini-CDR disks.

@vwestlife 7 месяцев назад

The Mavica is considered to be a digital still camera, even though the early ones were based on the same lens and image sensor as Sony's Handycams, and really just took frame grabs from the interlaced video feed.

@Markimark151 7 месяцев назад

I first had a Panasonic VHS C camcorder that my uncle lended to me and used for birthdays and other parties. Then in 2002, I bought a Sony miniDV camcorder for my uncle’s wedding, which became my favorite camcorder, it had better resolution, more recording time, amazing optical zoom, long battery life! And easy to connect to the computer via FireWire, and made video copies to DVDs! I wish Sony would make a newer model of their Handycam, because I’m not a fan of action cameras like GoPro since they’re too small in lens and zoom!

@Ale.K7 7 месяцев назад

It's nice to see how good the video quality of some of these is.

@jordonf9928 7 месяцев назад

I still have 2 perfectly working Sony HDV camcorders, One with a 1 inch sensor and interchangeable lenses and another smaller HDR-HC1 (I think I have that model correct - The other I dont remember) I shot a documentary on a Musician in 2012 with a rigged out Canon 7d DSLR and used the HDV camcorders as b-roll cams. After grading it was hard to tell the difference between the HDV and the DSLR except for the cinematic DOF on tighter shots with the 7D of course. Besides deinterlacing and 1080i, at 24fps (some 3/2 pulldown trickery inside the camera) the HDV even with smaller sensors had better dynamic range and more pleasing colour science than the DSLR. HDV could also record 720p 'progressive too. HDV was a marvel for its time and I was fascinated at the quality recorded to tape. Thanks for getting into HDV instead of concentrating on the SD formats and presenting them in the correct format for us to enjoy here.

@5cyndi 7 месяцев назад

4:09 oh dear… oh that’s not confusing at all 🤔 wow I missed all these formats having stuck with Hi8 and Digital8 until digital cameras and iPhones got more capable. Love your clips interspersed with these detailed descriptions of these product designs

@jorgem50 7 месяцев назад

I'm in the wedding video business and back when I didn't have a clue about filming and editing I bought a Panasonic gs320 3ccd camera with the hopes of one day using that camera for wedding work. Long story short I did a couple of small events with my panasonic. Fast forward to 2023 and I use panasonic s5s for my wedding business.

@ObiWanBillKenobi 7 месяцев назад

12:34 Note to self: These are the computers, OS, and programs I should use to convert various videotapes from circa 2008.

@truecrimescotsman 7 месяцев назад

When you are having a VWestlife marathon and he drops a new video......

@BrettDarien 7 месяцев назад

I still use a Panasonic AVCHD camcorder to film most of my RU-vid videos, and before that I used a JVC MiniDV camcorder. Didn't know HDV existed back then, I would of loved to try one.

@philixer6769 6 месяцев назад

As a teenager, I still record family stuff and parties on a miniDV camcorder. Because these tapes will be found somewhere many years later, unlike the files on a cloud storage. My dad had an early Panasonic model, the NV-EX3, and I still used it until the video heads finally gave up, the cleaning tape didn't help. But this camera still lasted a very long time and recorded so many tapes. Even his wedding photographer and cameraman borrowed it for a while when he still had only analog equipment. Even when this camera gave up like a year ago, I didn't, and bought another one, also a Panasonic. And yeah, the footage isn't HD, but even a VHS is better than some videos on our phones, forgotten once recorded…

@RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera 7 месяцев назад

Oh my God this is going to be a nostalgia Memory to me. I remember most of my friends has a least a camcorders most were Hi8, Digital 8 and VHS-C. Eventually my father got one it was a Samsung Sc-D353 MiniDV Camcorder and I remember using a lot mostly in family holiday trips. Eventually I move on with a Panasonic HC-V180k Full Hd camcorder for short time, but man that Samsung MiniDV Camcorder was fun to use and plus it has FireWire, it made me the editing stuff much easier.

@mrrobert1301 7 месяцев назад

It's crazy to think that the Sony HDR SR11 was 1300 when it was released, while my Canon Vixia HF G50, which runs circles around the Sony in terms of performance, was 1100 when it was released

@SuperPhunThyme100 6 месяцев назад

I remember the Canon HV20, 30, and 40. Beautiful cameras. 24p recording. Good times.

@caseyrevoir 7 месяцев назад

The sign above the mystics at the end is perturbing. "just whip up the impossible with no guidance and then bludgeon your way into success and keep that method a secret to oppress the others".