Melisandre's actress has hands down the best Valyrian pronunciation of anyone in GoT or HoTD. I understand almost every word she says, whereas all the other characters often mix words together or switch sounds - which is totally understandable, given that they have to learn those lines in a completely new language, but I'm so impressed by Carice van Houten's pronunciation nonetheless
Fun fact: it's greyworm. David J Peterson, the creator of the functional language has explicitly stated that Greyworm speaks it better than anyone else
@@Fagnarok Okay, correction: she has the best _High_ Valyrian pronunciation. Grey Worm speaks a dialect, and those are pretty much a different language at this point, as David Peterson has also stated in his notes to the HV course :)
I'm not one to cheer on the sacking of a city but watching Daenerys annihilate Astapor and free all the slaves will always be one of the most satisfying moments in the series
Jorah definitely understood some of that valyrian, that look he shot towards dude at the beginning was like "i smell like what? Ah shit". He didnt dare say a word tho because he loved dany.
THANKS⚔️FOR ALL THE VALERYION SPEECHES! ACE:), sounds pretty cool! For ALL these GOT SHOWS!🗡️👑🗡️⚔️ Beautiful scenes! Beautiful Daenerys! Beautiful Missandei! Beautiful Drogon!♥️ ♥️🔥🔥♥️🔥🔥♥️
And this is exactly why it didn't make sense her ending. See this? She gave them the choice of leaving and be free. She didn't want slaves; she wanted free men.
Aside from the fact that Emilia Clarke knows she's going to burn them alive within the next week... Yeah, I'm sure that was difficult ...to hide the enthusiasm, if anything! Hah!
I once worked for a racist asshole of a doctor. I'm not Hispanic, but I was the only one who spoke Spanish so I had to translate for him. I tried to shift as many as possible of them to other doctors, but sometimes it was unavoidable. I did a lot of rewording along these lines.
We all know now that Daenerys understood every single word that repellant man said, but I also think Jorah Mormont also understood some of it, too. He had been living in Essos for some years , after all. I loved it when Daenerys revealled her mastery of the language: at that point, the Master realised he had more than just the dragon to deal with!
@@godlygamer911 he was not immune to fire and technically only had one dragon, he might be amazing in a lot of stuff, but i think she gets close too, their ending is different sadly
@@godlygamer911 aegon was familiar with targaryen/valeria legacy. he had dragon masters to taught everything about dragons to him. but daenerys have to learn it all by herself and still she had a great control over her dragons. not one but three all of them. so her bond with dragons must be powerfull than any other targaryens comes before her because she had too build everything by herself. and she knows very littlw about dragons. even this makes her greatest targaryen. also aegon was never alone. shed had visenya and rhaenys. they also conquer seven kingdoms with him but daenerys had no one like aegons sisters that she can fully trust oe relly on. even her most loyal man joray once betrayad her. so yes daenerys is the greatest targaryen
The badass moments of this series were so good that it's difficult to watch them again and not think about how terrible the ending is. How in the final season they take amazing characters and boil them down to cheap mental illness stereotypes and petty gender stereotypes.
The Showrunners didn't wait for the author. You can tell. They fell into the usual TV tropes and "gotcha!" endings to a scene and cause a migical disappearance of critical characters. It turned into skim milk instead of whole milk because the showrunners didn't give breath the for decades. Always wait for the author, showrunners, when presenting something from novels. You'll thank me later.
I always thought it would be cool if she had been of velaryon blood & connected to & bonded to dany in that full circle kind of way, an unprecedented connection to dany's valyrian roots
I hate how they underutilized her. She spoke 19 languages fluently and was very smart about the politics, cultures, and dynamics of Essos from having learned so much as a translator for years. She should have been the one to step up and hold down Meereen instead of Tyrion and Varys because they were ignorant of the customs of Essos.
People were saying it didn't make sense for Dany to appoint Missandei as a high advisor as if they didn't portray her from her first introduction as a master of negotiation, social intelligence and de-escalation. She would have been perfect on the small council if she survived long enough to see Dany on the throne.
I just love the look that missandei gives the slave master when they both realize that danny can speak valyerian. She knows in that moment that Danny knows exactly what the slave master has been calling her the whole time, and knows that he is as good as dead.
Props to Missandei working overtime to quickly translate all those horrid and disgusting things that man is saying in Valyrian. That just goes to show that you shouldn’t say insulting slurs and repugnant words about someone in front of them even if they don’t know your language.
Grey Worm was such a great, but underutilized character. From his first introduction, he was set up to be a competent and thoughtful leader of the army. Good enough that they all knew and voted for him to represent them. I know he got a lot more development than some characters, but I'd still loved to have seen him in some spinoff adventures.
The really cool thing is that Daenerys shows an insane amount of power when she speaks to the slaver not just in his language but in his own dialect of Valyrian. The look of shock on his face is priceless.
It's honestly incredible that he can make a completely fictional language sound like it's his mother tongue and he's been speaking it for his whole life. Super underrated performance.
@@mariananunez9921 Arabic is such a beautiful language. It has a musical lilt to it that other languages lack. When I created my D&D character's Mother Tongue, I used Arabic as a foundation. I am still making it.
We need a Grey Worm sequel where all the Unsullied go to Missandei’s homeland after Dany’s death. It would be a short series as the poisonous butterflies would kill all the Unsullied lol !
I love how each person pronounces it differently. Thoros sounds like he is more common with a rougher pronunciation and that he is trying. Mellisandre sounds more educated and speaks more beautifully. Daenarys expresses it with fire and power in her tone but sounds loving with those he cares for. Grey worm sounds lower and it sounds more like a tribal language. ❤❤❤. Love it so much.
@@maxiapalucci2511 I’m learning Valyrian as well, and judging by how a name like Jon gets translated as Iōnos, there probably are rules for how to pronounce/translate names using Valyrian phonology. Similar to how you have to translate names into Japanese, because Japanese doesn’t even have some of the sounds necessary to properly say or write certain non-Japanese names. That being said, I haven’t actually found those rules yet, so could be the creator (David Peterson) hasn’t made them available yet.
Would be great to see a spin off set in the Free Cities of Essos so that we can learn about some more varieties of Bastard Valyrian like Braavosi, Pentoshi or Volantene Valyrian. A lot of work for David Peterson hahaha
@@yossarian00 I know about asoiaf wiki. You probably do not understand what I'm talking about. I am talking about varieties of Valyrian, information about which is on the wiki dothraki org (use web archive org to see it). At the moment, only High Valirian, Astaporian and Meerenese Valyrian are known because they were needed for scenes in the series. If they made a series where the characters would speak on other varieties of Valyrian, then we can see (hear) lines in the Baaavosi, Pentoshi, Tiroshi and Volantene Valyrian, for example. I wrote "A lot of work for David Peterson." You don't know who David Peterson is? He is the author of all lines on Valyrian in Game of thrones and House of the Dragon. If they will need to use the new varieties of Valyrian, then, most likely, Peterson will come up with replicas in these languages. I read that supposedly the Braavosi Valyrian is least like a High Valyrian and other varieties, so it would be interesting if Peterson had to come up with lines on it.
I hate how they ruined Dany's character. George R.R. Martin was mad at the writers of the show about the way they wrote S7 & 8 and all the actors have talked how they hated the way the show ended. In my mind the show was cancelled after S6
loving that in the books the unsullied got a new name every day, not just when they‘re cut, so grey worm really was the name he had the day danaerys stormborn set him free.
GRA O TRON TO FENOMANALNY SERIAL TELKEWIZYJNY, NO MOŻE POZA 8 SEZONEM, KTÓRY MIMO I BYŁ DOBRZE ZREALIZOWANY I Z SUPER 3 ODCINKIEM :) TO JEDNAK SCENARIUSZ PISAŁ KTOŚ PO PROCHACH.😄
Dejo expresada,aqui,mi total disconformidad por el final poco digno que le dieron a esta hermosa reina y mujer, si el objetivo fue que ella muriera,esta debio haber sido digno de ella y su historia. Dolor,amor,respeto,admiracion,todos rindiendo honores como ella lo merecia.😶🇦🇷
Read the books. They are better, for the most part, but not always. I'd say this scene is almost equal to the great experience of reading that chapter. So, probably, books better.
One of Dany's underrated talents is her pokerface. She understood everything that slimeball said to her and kept a straight face the entire time. Not me I would've cussed him out the second he started spouting that disrespect
Just a reminder that Barristan also served 3 generations of Targaryens whose first language is Valyrian. He knows exactly what that vile man is saying, even if it is in a bastard dialect.
