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Alma 30-31 Part 1 • Dr. Brent Top • July 15-21 • Come Follow Me

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How do we recognize anti-Christian rhetoric? Dr. Brent Top examines the sophistries and anti-familial tenets advanced by Korihor and how the Book of Mormon exposes the enemies of Christ for the Latter-day Saints.
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00:00 Part I - Dr. Brent Top
02:55 Dr. Brent Tops bio
04:54 Introduction Korihorrible decisions
06:40 Promises about Book of Mormon
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13:33 Alma 30 - Obedience is protection against Korihors
14:33 Alma 30:12-18 - Temple experiences vs. Korihor
16:25 Alma 30:8-12 - Beliefs and behaviors
19:57 Alma 30:13 - Korihor’s tactics
24:23 Dr. Top shares a story about the Southern Baptist convention
27:53 Alma 30:13, 27 - Korihor paints himself as liberator
32:41 Korihor makes an intellectual caste system
36:38 Alma 30:15 - Countering Korihor’s tactics
38:11 Discovering and recognizing truth
40:02 Alma 30:17-18 - Korihor teaches that man is greater than God
46:39 Unwittingly adopting Korihor’s philosophies
52:07 Alma 30:12-17 The Articles of No Faith
56:13 Can you vote to decide true north?
58:47 A consequence stick object lesson
1:01:32 Alma 32:20 - Anti-family is anti-Christ
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@henrysafeli6434 Месяц назад

Watching and listening to your podcasts has made me a better teacher of the Gospel and also a better Disciple of Jesus Christ. From Ndola Zambia in Africa 🌍

@timandres6410 Месяц назад

My grandson is headed to your land to serve today !

@TheMormom3 Месяц назад

I listen every morning on my five mile walks in Columbia, SC. I am strengthened physically and spiritually every morning. Love the Follow Him podcast.

@teawhinadawson4775 28 дней назад

What a great example. 🤍

@dennisgailey3016 Месяц назад

Many years ago I was given a ‘cassette’ tape that anti. The person who gave it to me asked if I was ‘Mormon’ and when I answered yes, she asked if I would listen to the tape. I put it off for months and to keep my word I would listen. I played as I going to church appointments. The more I listened to it the more negative I felt. After a few minutes, I turned off the tape. As I quietly reflecting on what I heard, the Holy Ghost said in my mind, the following. ‘ I do not build up by tearing down.’ I know that heavenly father will not destroy faith, He cannot!

@debbienicholson8389 Месяц назад

Hi from Cleveland, Tennessee! I think this has to be in my top 3 episodes! I can see why he served as a Mission President twice and Stake President and other leadership callings. He is a humble wealth of knowledge!

@drewhansen7007 29 дней назад

Although my wife and I have been listeners of your podcast almost from day one, I have yet to leave a comment. Today, I feel compelled to share our gratitude. We are currently serving our third senior mission-first from home in Gilbert, AZ during COVID, then 18 months in Albania, and now as Seminary and Institute missionaries in New Zealand. Over the years of our service, it has become a tradition that as we minister in these faraway lands, your podcast travels with us. You have become like old familiar friends, no matter where we are in the world. Your podcasts are not only a great source of scriptural insights but also provide motivation and comfort. I simply want to express a heartfelt and sincere thank you for sharing your testimonies and demonstrating your gifted abilities to teach by the Spirit. Thank you!

@teawhinadawson4775 28 дней назад

We need more people like you 🤍🤍

@jgreen6772 Месяц назад

I listen to the podcast on my commute in Los Angeles, California and teach gospel doctrine class. I've read the BofM a couple dozen times or more, but you and your guests are adding SO MUCH to my study of it this year. Thank you!!!

@leonjacob8474 Месяц назад

I’m from Kennewick, Washington, but I listen wherever I happen to be. Right now I am at FSY in Moscow, Idaho. Listening to your episode today has helped bring the Spirit to this week. I love studying the scriptures and I have learned so much from this miraculous podcast. Thank you so much John and Hank! And thank you Dr. Top for your inspiring and Spirit-bringing insights.

@pgray5223 27 дней назад

My grandkids were there!! They loved it! Even with the heat!

@cjballard5599 27 дней назад

With many family members that have left the church, I have hope they will understand more than they ever did of who Jesus. is. It will be beautiful. Just love

@HallPhoebe Месяц назад

One of the BEST EPISODES EVER!!!! Thank you Dr. Brent Top! We are on a senior mission right now and I could relate to so much of your experience.

@teawhinadawson4775 28 дней назад

Lots of love and appreciation

@jasonstephan9185 28 дней назад

I'm from Red Deer, Alberta, Canada. Thank you for these wonderful messages! I love listening and learning both in word and in the Spirit. The truth of Jesus Christ and His Gospel is wonderful!

@wendysmith5402 27 дней назад

This podcast, has changed my perspective on education. THANK YOU!!! I cannot explain here how much of a life changing concept this is for me!

@RhondaClausen-y6c 26 дней назад

Thank you for another wonderful podcast! I had Dr. Top as a teacher in Doctrines of the Gospel at BYU in 1997. I learned so much from him then, and again as I listened to these episodes.

@gloriaturner9861 Месяц назад

I have loved brother Top since I watched him on the round table discussions of the scriptures. He is very knowledgeable and informative. Thanks for having him on. It's been awhile since I've seen him.

@briandaems6446 Месяц назад

Dr. Top, (and Hank & John) This has been an incredibly powerful and relevant discussion. You have helped me see the insights and warnings Mormon intended us to see more clearly than I ever have. Thank you!

@maryloissnow 27 дней назад

I really enjoy watching these podcasts on RU-vid on Sunday after church. They are my favorite companion to our studying the scripture blocks each week. Brother Top may remember my family from his time as mission president in the Peoria Illinois mission. We were living in Burlington, Iowa at the time.

@jantaylor2070 Месяц назад

I’m from So Jordan, Ut. I LOVE your podcast! I try to listen everyday, & sometimes I listen to the same podcast twice. Your program has broadened my understanding of the scriptures. Your guests have been delightful & so wise. Thank you for your program!

@kimberleyhamilton685 Месяц назад

Listening weekly from Lisburn, Northern Ireland ☘️ This is one of my absolute favourite podcasts.. Thankyou so much for sharing with us!

@mariettastewart9259 Месяц назад

I enjoyed this this Lesson more than I can describe. I enjoyed listening to how he taught us what the Lord wanted us to know and learn. Listening to him you could actually feel the Spirit coming from him. I wish I could describe the difference I felt listening to him as I was also following him with my Book of Mormon as compared to your other quest. They have all been great and I have learned from them, but he brought the Spirit into my home. Thank you for having him as a guest.

@bellasara65 Месяц назад

Dearest Brother John, I WANT YOUR STICK!!! Thank you for your loving teaching.

@ambermeadows9987 29 дней назад

Hi from Gainesville, VA! 👋🏻 I listen to your podcast in the morning as I get ready for the day and it sets the tone for my day. I love it! Every week is my favorite episode 😆 Just wanted to say thank you for all the effort that goes into this podcast! It’s made a huge difference in my life. I grew up hearing about the importance of studying scripture but I honestly didn’t understand how to study them. Hank and John, I’ve learned from you and each of your guests what it looks like to study the scriptures, and it’s changed me. I can’t thank you enough 💗

@andrewfarley4377 Месяц назад

30.00. I love the way the Book of Mormon speaks of developing faith as a desire to believe, choosing to believe, knowing, and a perfect knowledge. I don't have a perfect knowledge of the Saviour, but I know he is my Saviour more than I know anything else I have not seen.

@cathyjenkins109 Месяц назад

Listening from Columbus, Ohio. Brad and I love Brent and Wendy Top! Thanks for the spiritual feast!

@andrewbfrost7021 Месяц назад

Korihor taught an ancient version of Marxism/critical theory. His arguments went like this: 1)There is no God and so no sin and no need for a Savior. 2) Because there is no God and no absolute right and wrong, everything devolves into questions of power and power dynamics. People prosper if they can gather power by their genius, strength, or management skills. 3) The Nephite society was created by a group of men who set up institutions, social structures, physical structures, and a set of beliefs that were all designed to keep themselves in power and to keep the people in ignorance and exploitation. 4) Because of this, the people are under a false consciousness of freedom when in fact they are in bondage. 5) When the people become awakened (woke) to the truth of how the founders set up society for their own power and benefit, they can start to be liberated and take power back for themselves. 6) Korihor was there to raise their consciousness to these realities and liberate them from their economic and social oppression and call them to a revolution/resistance. There could not be a better description of modern Marxism/critical theory. It’s really important that we see this aspect of the story as critical theory is the dominant philosophy of our time in much of the world.

@mariettastewart9259 Месяц назад

Wonderful feedback. How may I copy what was written ?

@andrewbfrost7021 Месяц назад

@@mariettastewart9259 I don’t know if there is a way to copy and paste from comments. A screenshot might be the best way.

@russb9522 Месяц назад

Agree with everything you said. But I would argue that the modern version of being "woke" is recognizing that everyone I come in contact with is a child of God and that I should love and respect them as myself. Even if I don't agree with their POV or choices I can love them. I say the same thing about being politically correct. Which to me is just being Christ-like. Christ would never get on social media and call out a group of marginalized people. He always went to the one. For example, He went to a Samaritan woman first to publicly declare His mission. So if someone calls me woke or politically correct, I take it as a compliment. Because I'm trying to be like my Savior.

@andrewbfrost7021 Месяц назад

@@russb9522 The term “woke” comes from the Marxist idea of “false consciousness” which Marx argued was a deceived state of mind that the oppressed person exists in due to the narrative/lies of the group of people who have established society and shaped it to maintain their power. When the person comes to realize that they have been lied to by the power structure and that what they thought was a reality of freedom is actually a reality of bondage, this is coming to a critical consciousness. This person has become awakened to their oppression or “woke”. That’s where the term comes from. I wasn’t saying anything about loving everyone, seeing them as children of God, trying to ease suffering, or anything else in that vein. I was showing how the arguments of critical theory and those of Korihor are exactly the same, built on the same framework designed to foment revolution for the purposes of amassing power into the hands of the revolutionary leaders (i.e. Korihor). I think it’s good that you seek to be Christ-like and I hope that you continue to do so in whatever way that you feel the Spirit guides you.

@maureenschofield4784 Месяц назад

@@russb9522 Sounds very nice, but it is actually the opposite. Politically correct means you are afraid to speak truth if it doesn't agree with the popular current opinion. Satan wants to silence truth. Christ was not afraid to call out the falseness of the ruling popular ideas of the Pharisees in his day. Doesn't mean we have to be obnoxious and contentious, but we should stand up for truth.

@dennisgailey3016 Месяц назад

My mother used to say while in mortality the gospel is best way to live even if it weren’t true! (And it is true)

@margaretfoenander9759 Месяц назад

As always,a great learning experience,from Melbourne, Australia.

@JeffDavidson 25 дней назад

Listening in Costa Rica this week. Thank you

@jenniferchristy5325 Месяц назад

Having had many conversations with non-believers who like to say, “Jesus was a good guy - a prophet, but I don’t believe he was God.” What I wish I had said in return was, “So you believe he was at least a prophet, but you’re calling him a liar after he declared himself the Son of God. Doesn’t that seem to fly in the face of reason about the characteristics of a Prophet? Does a Prophet of God, let alone a ‘good guy’, go about lying to people about being the Son of God? That kind of behavior is opposite of being what Christ claimed he was and verges on being insane. How can an insane man have so much positive impact on the world 2,000 years later?” Critical thinking skills are needed in discussions with non-believers and that is taught in the Book of Mormon. I heard the story about Hanks football strategy. This is a wonderful concept to learn. Atheists and non-believers all seem to talk from the same script and I know they didn’t read the Book of Mormon to learn this script. There is a malevolent spirit that gives them all the same words and thoughts. It’s astonishing.

@phyllisaycock1880 26 дней назад

Oh wow, this is so good! Thank you!❤

@Bri-wc4ib 28 дней назад

This is so valuable. Thank you!!

@dianayoshioka9556 Месяц назад

I love brother Top

@KimberleyFullwood 11 дней назад

Such an amazing episode, I've never written down so many notes. Listening from England

@angiebryner2621 29 дней назад

My parents and I listen every week from LaVerkin, Utah. We love the podcast!!

@bruceharker6315 Месяц назад

Bruce Harker from Spokane Valley, WA. What a Great Blessing to have this uplifting program each week. It is like taking an institute class, just no immediate test. The test is ongoing: Am I a better person this week over last week. Of course the final exam is with Jesus Christ. A question I have got in the habit of asking each week is: How am I measuring up? Thank you Both so much and your guests are perfect choices.

@jonelleaustin2213 Месяц назад

AMAZING as ALWAYS!

@rgcwyovideos7707 27 дней назад

Thank you for the podcasts ! I listen most every week as i drive to work and check oil wells near Meeteetse WY ( south of Cody ) .

@franciscoedgardobarcelooro8586 29 дней назад

Es un placer escucharlos !!!✌🏼

@user-yr5ce8jp8o 25 дней назад

Love this! Listening from Szeged Hungary

@kenpearce3269 Месяц назад

Thanks for another awesome lesson ❤

@emilysmith6229 27 дней назад

Whoredoms destroy love, and love is the gospel of Jesus Christ. Love is what fills our spirits when we come unto Him. It is what helps us choose God and each other. Whoredoms represent everything in this world that we do not have to work for, just getting to the end result - No effort on our part; the path of least resistance.

@CalebBrown228 Месяц назад

Gracias.

@snelson2669 27 дней назад

Love your guests keep up the good work😊

@suzannaylor653 Месяц назад

My thoughts concerning "strict in observing ordinances": I like to think of the sacrament as a quick polishing of our " armor of God" and the temple as a place to clean, polish and repair our armor so it is "like brand new". This helps me conceptualize the importance of attending sacrament meeting and the temple. What would happen to my armor if I neglected these things?

@russb9522 Месяц назад

Listening each week from Taylorsville, Utah.

@teawhinadawson4775 28 дней назад

I KNEW HE HAD BEEN A MISSION PRESIDENT. I actually re-started this podcast to confirm that he was haha. He’s giving mission president.. and TWICE!!!! What a guy 🤍🤍 love from New Zealand.

@delbertoman7471 Месяц назад

Keep up the good work!

@susanburns1816 Месяц назад

Looking in program notes for Holland quote from 2000 at 54.27. Please give reference. Love your podcast.

@susieclayton6875 29 дней назад

Korihor uses shame and gaslighting to rock our confidence. You have to have an unshakeable testimony in order to withstand "the fiery darts" and disregard lies.

@lynngrant3121 27 дней назад

Hank and the rest, I did my mission in new Zealand 1965 to 67 spent a lot of my time with the maori members which built my understanding of the book of mormon and also had interviews with president monson and other general authorities. I also learned from sports what to watch for other players. I have many experiences that taught the truthfulness of the book of mormon such as a woman who was from Peru that she came from the Andes she was white blond, blue eyes but parents dark skinned and was incka I was a Stake 70ty doing missionary work, was teaching the book of mormon, she said we were not saying the names correctly she new the stories, we had to teach the bible. My education is a bs sociology psychology, ma counseling psychology. I am 78, 20 years air force traveled a lot met people from different countries and believes had good interactions. Been in three bishopric and other callings and spent a lot of time doing missionary work. For the past 26 years lived in elk mountain Wyoming. My best time was in Alaska 6 years.

@DebraHarker Месяц назад

Loved every minute -- so insightful! Listening from Greenacres Washington

@joannahammond5507 Месяц назад

Listening and watching on youtube from Nauvoo, IL. Love your programs!

@jenjohnson2204 Месяц назад

"Something good comes out of Nazareth?" hit hard because I mock the people of Magna. And it used to be Tooele back in the 1990s. #humbled

@sagemurdoch4227 29 дней назад

I absolutely love y’all’s podcast and how it has significantly improved my scripture study and knowledge in the Gospel. I am a convert to the church and to the Lord and have thoroughly enjoyed this journey as a disciple of Christ. After discussing and understanding satan’s tactics as demonstrated by Korihor (and in life in general), I had a question come to mind that I wanted to ask you both. As we know, we are all children of God which in turn makes us all brothers and sisters. We understand that Jesus Christ is our brother but doesn’t that make Satan our brother as well? Why is it that we don’t pray of Satan and for his soul, just as we have been taught and encouraged to pray for those who have wronged us/our enemies? ♥️ Just a thought, I’d love to know what you think! Thank you for your time, Sage (San Antonio, Tx)

@SylviaJones-r8l Месяц назад

I’m having trouble understanding how laughing at others’ beliefs is uplifting

@gennesamann4323 Месяц назад

Perhaps the 6 th sense is really the spiritual sense.

@WebTed1 Месяц назад

Thank you Bro. Top for speaking the truth about grace vs "cheap grace". There have been a few guest on the Podcast that seemed to be teaching the "easy" grace. I'm sure they would agree with you however.

@lmw716 Месяц назад

When talking about "my truth" we have to consider the nuance and situations people are coming from when saying that. From my experience, most people who say that have been abused, have spoken out against their abuse, and their abusers have come in saying it never happened. The only leg the victims have to stand on, while their abusers turn themselves into the victims and their victims into the perpetrators, is to say, "This is my truth. I know it. I know that God knows it. It doesn't matter if you believe me or not, this is my truth." Most people, at least from my experience, are not using it to speak in a way that is contrary to God and His laws. Now, it is possible there are other people out there using "my truth" in a different way, it's just not something I've personally seen, or experienced first hand.

@colleenlofgreen1234 Месяц назад

Listening in St Louis Missouri

@bobcall2429 Месяц назад

Listening in Kennewick Wa

@athenabowler3788 25 дней назад

I’d like to know which faith belief was ranked #1 in educated members.

@icnfxit Месяц назад

Thanks

@denagibson559 Месяц назад

Korihor thought he was 'all that and a bag of chips too!' NOT!!!

@user-mz8kh2xt5v Месяц назад

Weird how you introduce Byyheway so weird

@justkeepswimming6549 Месяц назад

I like it and think he tries to tie it to the virtues of the upcoming lesson. It’s all in good fun ❤

@charlotteingle1874 Месяц назад

Listening in Wylie Texas.

@barbaraallred7711 Месяц назад

When will the show notes for this episode be available?

@GFSongbird Месяц назад

Expand the page by tapping "more" and then scroll down to "transcript.""

@grammac9388 Месяц назад

Which talk what is the name of the talk was referred to by President Benson

@emagil1474 19 дней назад

💙💙

@stegkrynn Месяц назад

Colorado Springs

@jenjohnson2204 Месяц назад

I love the title of this episode 😂

@thatonesopranohandel 21 день назад

I love your podcast. It's wonderful and insightful. I think, however, there is a part of the discussion that was missed or misunderstood. Not everyone understands or takes, "my truth," to mean the same thing. It has been understood in an immature way and that is the most popular understanding of the phrase. However, it is also used to speak up for the truth of one's understanding and experience. Joseph Smith said it by saying, "I knew it, I knew that God knew it, and I could not deny it." He spoke his truth, the truth of what happened to him even though everyone said he was lying. Jesus spoke His truth His entire ministry, Martin Luther, Joan of Arc, Rosa Parks. Their "truth" also happened to be truth. As a survivor of childhood abuse, whenever I speak about what happened to me from my perspective (aka my truth,) I am often told I'm wrong, it didn't happen that way (from their perspective) and if it isn't their perspective or understanding then it must not be true. In essence, "my truth" has been used to say, "my perspective," or, "my experience." This isn't moral relativism. This is about not being denied the reality of a person's experiences and perspective.

@beckyjones1584 Месяц назад

Those who say these things against the Book of Mormon have not read it completely because if they had(especially with footnote references) they would know it is true. Obviously they didn't read the last chapter of Morini😉

@jenjohnson2204 Месяц назад

Korihorrible 😂