(Almost) Authentic version of U.N. Owen was Her? but not on a Studio Canvas

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Recorded straight from XV-5080's digital output without any post-processing.
You might be wondering: why is this anything significant anyway? Well, as everybody knows nowadays, ZUN used his Studio Canvas SD-90 for pretty much everything back then. With certain models of Studio Canvas, replicating the sounds can be quite easy. (Not you, "mobile Studio Canvas"!) Using anything else means your luck depends on the synth engine and samples provided.
Well well well, I know it's a cheese -- XV-5080 literally has the same guts as those Studio Canvas models. Plus a lot of samples used by Studio Canvas are available for the XV line up in expansion boards. But you do have to appreciate the effort to port those patches don't you? (I have all my card patch slots dedicated to them.)
Can't listen to those high-pitched square waves for too long or my ear drums will burst. So the vibrato setting isn't 100% correct.
All patch are ported from a Studio Canvas SD-80.
To reproduce this recording on your hardware, use the following midi file:
filestorage.ch...
The MIDI starts with a very large system exclusive message event. Certain DAWs do not like how long they are and will complain.
Required wave expansion boards: SR-JV80-09, SRX-03, SRX-06, SRX-07, SRX-09. Also needs samples of Studio Canvas' cymbal sounds loaded in RAM (wave number 420-454, mapped to samples no. 168-202).
Audio Interface: Edirol UA-101, optical S/PDIF input, 48kHz sampling rate.
Synthesizer configuration: XV-5080, 48kHz output, 430 Hz master tune.
System chorus = Chorus
System Reverb = SRV Plate
Part 1 = (unused)
Part 2 = SD Solo capital tones - Jazz Slap
Part 3 = SD Solo capital tones - OB Square
Part 4 = SD Solo capital tones - St.Piano 2
Part 5 = SD Solo capital tones - St.Strings
Part 6 = SD Solo capital tones - St.Glocken → MFX A 3D Delay
Part 7 = SD Classical variations - Square
Part 8 = SD Contemporary capital tones - Vibraphone 2
Part 9 = SD Solo capital tones - Dist.Gt 2 → MFX C Guitar Multi A
Part 10 = SD Contemporary drum sets - Room 2
Part 11 = SD Solo variations - Soft60'Organ
Part 12 = SD Solo capital tones - PhaseFretless
Part 13 = (unused)
Part 14 = SD Solo capital tones - St.Piano 2
Part 15 = SD Solo capital tones - St.Piano 2
Part 16 = SD Solo capital tones - Romantic Tp

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6 окт 2024

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Комментарии : 54

@Jann75 Год назад

Why does this version unironically mesh with ZUN's comment on it much more and why do I like it better than the original?

@ItzJuanG Год назад

Don't understand anything on the description but it sounds pretty authentic

@veryredfumoze Год назад

It just sounds nice that's all you need to know

@Natalietrans 9 месяцев назад

Different midi sound module make music go interesting

@falconstudios2311 Год назад

Glad to see there's still hobbyist MIDI techs around in the Touhou community to document the hardware specifics!

@lambdadelta821 Год назад

0:31 my ears hurt but i love it

@Chrisoftable Год назад

yes lol and for the exact same reason I couldn't bother to fine tune the vibrato to match perfectly with the original

@rymaix Год назад

finally..... high quality u.n. owen was her...... after 21 years..

@momsaccount4033 2 месяца назад

The melody truly is a work of genius

@mochi_dooughnut 9 месяцев назад

honestly this is way better than the original. it's much more clean

@Sonictrainkid Год назад

I’ve played piano my entire life. i can say that this is the sound.

@MagnusFeirenbacher 9 месяцев назад

funny, because to actually play the song correctly you actually would have to de-tune your piano.

@Tanekoshima Год назад

Dang it. Now I can't listen to the original, your version sounds a lot cleaner, for some reason, to my ears. Thanks for the video and the explanation in the description!

@BatMane95 Год назад

Helps that it's not screaming at you

@Koalix-iu6yw 4 месяца назад

Flandre not destroying your ears. Lol.

@LukeNasti Год назад

Thank the algorithm for leading me hear

@SueTheGuiltyDeer 8 месяцев назад

this needs more attention thank you for your hard work in restoring this awesome piece of music

@mauvves Год назад

happy to see you post again- this is really interesting, thanks for sharing

@pirozhkebab Год назад

this is genuinely really cool, those rack mount units have always intrigued me but the prices are always so high as to discourage me from purchasing one. I will try the midi file on the SC-88 Pro for fun to see what happens.

@YuutaTogashi0707 10 месяцев назад

The touhou 6 MIDI files from the game are meant to be played on a SC-88 Pro

@pirozhkebab 10 месяцев назад

@@YuutaTogashi0707 Ok and? it didn't stop me from playing this one on it, As a rompler is a rompler and it is designed play MIDI data. Obviously it didn't sound the same cause the 88Pro does not use "XV" engine but the results I got were interesting and still sounded like the song.

@YuutaTogashi0707 10 месяцев назад

Did that anger you? Huh? I just said the MIDI are meant to be played on a SC-88Pro@@pirozhkebab

@pirozhkebab 10 месяцев назад

@@YuutaTogashi0707 I believe I miss interpreted you reply my bad

@sdkdoom 3 месяца назад

Sounds so good and clean

@veryredfumoze Год назад

This is great!

@touhoulinuxfan8399 Год назад

Hey, I’ve got an XV-5080 VST but I can’t make it sound like EoSD. What settings did you use in your synth? Thanks!

@Chrisoftable Год назад

XV-5080 without any expansion cards or samples (which is essentially what the VSTi is) isn't enough to reproduce SD-90/80 patches accurately. I've listed hardware expansion boards needed for this track in the description. Some are available in Roland Cloud while others aren't. The MIDI file provided in the description contains full patch data I used for the track in sysex (system exclusive messages). Although last time I messed with the VST it didn't come with support for importing such data. If that's still the case, I'd suggest checking out a few third party patch editors for XV/JV modules (I don't have a personal recommendation).

@touhoulinuxfan8399 Год назад

@@ChrisoftableOk, Thanks!!!

@siyacer Год назад

pretty cool

@eletvizviz-redux Год назад

am i supposed to understand anything on screen or in the description?

@Tanekoshima Год назад

Not if you're not into making music using MIDI and sampling. Essentially, the Roland Sound Canvas/Studio Canvas models are machines that can be programmed to reproduce sound samples that are stored in their memories or to generate fundamental waveforms used in electronic music (sine wave, triangle wave, square wave etc). These machines were used to create the soundtrack to an infinitude of video game soundtracks and general listening music back in the 90's, and is still used in a lot of music to this day, due to its versatility and, nowadays, desireable "cheesy" sound that a lot of people have come to really enjoy, myself included, though I'm not a composer myself (I just have tons of composer friends who are really into these things lol). A lot of the recognizable sounds from Touhou songs, mainly the infamous ZUNpets, came from machines like this. Like Chris says in the description, ZUN used a Studio Canvas SD-90 model, which is one of the many models Roland released over the years. Chris basically re-programmed, to astounding accuracy, U.N. Owen was her? in one of their own related Roland machines, and what we're seeing in the video is the machine's screen display, showing what's going on inside its guts. Fascinating stuff, really.

@poni_poki Год назад

@@TanekoshimaThanks for this explanation! ^_^

@Tanekoshima Год назад

@@poni_poki Np!

@flanfre_skarlett 8 месяцев назад

Sounds much better

@puppable 3 месяца назад

U.N. Owen Is Here

@Pixelator5 8 месяцев назад

Can't access the website link without a UN and password

@Chrisoftable 8 месяцев назад

Should be fixed now. Thanks for catching that.

@sansgaster5284 Год назад

wild

@angelinaflan58 7 месяцев назад

What?? I want to use SD-90 instruments to make a mashup on the theme of Harry and Flanders, in this style What is Studio Canvas... I need to know everything that ZUN used to make music on, otherwise I won't be calm. Although it won't do me any good if I never get this synthesizer, and I have to use packs of soundfonts for SD-90 instruments, and then not for all. That's why I don't have the Classical Square instrument.

@Chrisoftable 7 месяцев назад

SD-90's full product name is "EDIROL StudioCanvas SD-90". There were a few other products in this line (SD-80, SD-20, etc). SD-90 is the primary hardware synth ZUN has been using for decades now although over the years he has added more and more software instruments to his mix. If you want to know more on what ZUN uses in his mix I'd refer you to the following spreadsheet: tinyurl.com/TouhouSheet The vast majority of SD-90's sounds come from Roland's expandable PCM sound modules (XV-5080 showcased in this video being one of them) and their expansion cards. For more information on this you can check out my blog post: chrisoft.org/blog/post/2020-11-20.html (skip to the section "SD-80's sound content")

@angelinaflan58 7 месяцев назад

@@Chrisoftable Well, I already have a list of instruments for touhou, and plug-ins to make such styles in a modern style, but there is no synthesizer itself, since I heard that it is very rare, and it seems to have stopped being produced... Well, at least I have plugins, for example Retrologue, Electri6ity and others. But Trillian is too fat, so I didn't install it... Only later, when I get a normal PC. Anyway, thanks for the info.

@angelinaflan58 7 месяцев назад

@@ChrisoftableThe only thing I do touhou styles on is a 2009 laptop, old and laggy + FL Studio 20.8, everything. I don't have any synthesizer, so I have to settle for soundfonts and plug-ins in FL

@LavaCreeperPeople Год назад

@miazep3805 9 месяцев назад

It's Real melodies…… :-○

@moxa-w9v 9 месяцев назад

Can I use the same sound with Roland Cloud?

@Chrisoftable 9 месяцев назад

Mostly yes. You'll need the corresponding VSTi for each SRX board. Besides that there are a few limitations. To name a few that I think are the most significant: being impossible to combine waveforms from different SRX boards and missing samples from Spectrasonics / some SR-JV80 boards. If you use Zenology Pro instead, you'll have an entirely different set of issues that are IMO easier to deal with overall.

@moxa-w9v 8 месяцев назад

Which srx vst would you recommend to reproduce Eosd?

@Chrisoftable 8 месяцев назад

@@moxa-w9v IMO SRX studio (3) and world (9) are essential. SRX keyboard (7) and orchestra (6) are pretty useful.

@moxa-w9v 8 месяцев назад

Which vst is Room set 2 in?

@Chrisoftable 8 месяцев назад

@@moxa-w9v It's a combination of base XV samples and SRX-03 samples. The cymbals seem to be unique to the SD series and I used hardware XV-5080's sample playback feature to reproduce them, which isn't available in these VSTi plugins (but you can use any software samplers your like).